Painting

[David French]

The Disco suffered at one point in Iceland from a poorly loaded roof rack
(not by me), where some rucksacks scratched (rubbed) through the paint down
to the steel in a few places. I covered it in Vaseline to protect it
temporarily, but having worked out my options on getting it done
professionally I've now got the aerosol paint and lacquer to have a go
myself.

Any pointers as to how best to do this? How should I prepare the surface?
What should I use to underseal it? It's not a paint shop job just yet, as
the roof isn't that visible most of the time, but I'd like to make as good a
job as I can.

Thanks,
David.

[Tim Hobbs]

If you are doing it with aerosol, get indoors or out of any breeze.
They have very low delivery and will be useless in even a slight
breeze. I've had crap results with every aerosol I have tried
outdoors.

The roof is steel, so get it very clean after rubbing it down with wet
and dry. Coat it with red oxide primer and then topcoat should be OK.
Then lacquer.

My approach has been lots of very sparse coats - you then avoid
bubbling and runs and it's easy to pick out the flies! Light rub down
between coats.

Good luck!

Tim Hobbs

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[Gary Harrison]

Dave,
Is it metalic? as this will determine how you proceed.

Gary

[David French]

"Gary Harrison" <uck801...@btconnect.com> wrote in message
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> Dave,
> Is it metalic? as this will determine how you proceed.
>
> Gary

Yup. Fox Fire Metallic to be precise.

[David French]

"David French" <david.nots...@virgin.net> wrote in message
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Actually, it's "micatallic" if this makes any difference. Car says
metallic, parts book says micatallic, dealer says they're the same thing.

David

[Llandrovers!]

On 22/8/03 5:51 pm, in article bi5hn2$5dsml$1...@ID-160280.news.uni-berlin.de,
"David French" <david.nots...@virgin.net> wrote:

Dealer is mistaken! A glance at the colour chart for the same year as yours
reveals that like nowadays, there are three paint types in use, normal,
metallic and micatallic. Micatallic has speckles of something or other
within it to make it even more reflective. Obviously the success of this
rather depends on how little mud the vehicle is coated in........

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[Stephen Hull]

In message <bi5hn2$5dsml$1...@ID-160280.news.uni-berlin.de>
"David French" <david.nots...@virgin.net> wrote:

[snip]

>Actually, it's "micatallic" if this makes any difference. Car says
>metallic, parts book says micatallic, dealer says they're the same thing.
>

David,
A Micatallic is still a metallic but it is a completely different
composition. Mica is a "crystal" as opposed to ordinary "metal"
metallics that often use aluminium or metal flake particles.

Because of differing light reflections you get from crystalline mica and
indeed a pearlecent you'll find it quite difficult to match up using
aerosols, But perhaps it won't really matter on the roof as you may not
see a notable difference.

However the only sure way to guarantee a match is to have the panel
sprayed professionally, This way the sprayer will be able to not only
match the colour but also match the exact way the original paint has
been applied by following the same way that the mica particles lay by
catching the light.

Any metallic colour can be altered from dark to light to aid colour
matching by adjusting spray pressure or paint volume but you cannot do
this with an aerosol.

Because of the way mica and pearlecent colours catch the light they are
particularly difficult to match even when done professionally.

Good luck,

Steve.

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[Gary Harrison]

I have to agree with Steve, matching could be a pain with Mica. To get
the colour to match the original you need to match the following.

Paint viscosity
Air pressure
Air Temprature
Air movement
Distance form panel
Speed of application

Difficult in a spray shop, Very difficult with a can.

Baisally you are trying to control the way the mica lays in the paint
when dry, as you could get the colour to match, but not in face and side
tone. Thats when the panel changes shade from front on, to side view.

Having said all that, it will do no harm you having a go, remember the
base coat (colour) will look matt when it's gone on, this is normal,
it's the lacquer that gives it the shine.
Also when you have done, expect to have to wet flat with 1200 and soap
then compund and polish, it won't shine from the can

Hope all this helps

gary