Seat types?
Molesworth
I have just bought a 1985 110 Diesel.
The seats are rubbish and I have to get a new set while the LR is in UK
before I ship it to New Orleans.
Having seen a set on fleabay UK I asked if they would fit, to be told
that they wont fit a Defender (If, indeed mine is a Defender), only a
Series.
Given the nomenclature '1985 110' is that a Defender?
If so, then I assume that the seats in a Defender are changed from the
Series, but do they change within the Defender range too?
Molesworth
Austin Shackles
<molesw...@hotmail.com> enlightened us thusly:
Yes, but I think you can fit later ones, esepcially if you have the frames
as well.
The seat backs are definitely different on later ones. A 1985 is "early" in
this context. There's not much difference - the later foam for the back can
be modified to fit the earlier frame - I did this on mine. The base foam
is, I think, the same as so presumably is the base itself.
The lever which adjusts the back changes as well.
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"Molesworth" wrote
Whilst it predates the name Defender, a 1985 110 is what became the Defender
110 (but with different engine).
Have a look at... http://www.exmoortrim.co.uk/
I'm sure they do something for you (at a price!).
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hugh
<molesworth80-1F4E...@newsfarm.iad.highwinds-media.com>,
Molesworth <molesw...@hotmail.com> writes
>Given the nomenclature '1985 110' is that a Defender?
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hugh
It may be more complicated but is it better?
Lee_D
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Weren't they Defenders from '91 onwards though?
Main difference being the Tdi in place of the TD engine.
Regardless the seats in any 110 are pretty much the same unless you look at
recent stuff.
So no unless you fit series frames they won't fit and to be honest I don't
think you would really want to.
Depending on how bad yours are you can just buy foam or covers and DIY
replace assuming there is a seat to start with. In which case Exmoor Trim is
the place to click as per the other reply.
Lee
HM
>>>Given the nomenclature '1985 110' is that a Defender?
>> Yes, the 110 denotes the wheelbase. Defenders are 90 or 110.
>> --
>> hugh
>> It may be more complicated but is it better?
>>
>
> Weren't they Defenders from '91 onwards though?
>
> Main difference being the Tdi in place of the TD engine.
>
> Regardless the seats in any 110 are pretty much the same unless you look
> at recent stuff.
>
> So no unless you fit series frames they won't fit and to be honest I don't
> think you would really want to.
>
> Depending on how bad yours are you can just buy foam or covers and DIY
> replace assuming there is a seat to start with. In which case Exmoor Trim
> is the place to click as per the other reply.
>
When Land Rover only made 'traditional Land Rovers' they had no need for the
name Defender - if you told someone that you had bought a Land Rover they
knew what it was going to look like! As such, they simply used the wheel
base to differentiate the two main derivatives - 88 and 109 up to 1982 (ish)
and then 90 and 110 with the introduction of the newer slightly longer coil
sprung models in the early 80's.
This situation continued unchanged until the Discovery was launched. Now
when you said you had a Land Rover, it didn't have to mean that it was a
traditional Land Rover. Therefore, to differentiate the traditional Land
Rover from the Discovery they called it the Defender. This also coincided
with the introduction of a new engine - the 200TDi. This was fitted to both
the Discovery and Defender in the early 1990's.
My own Land Rover is a 1989 110, but has a 300TDi engine and later R380
gearbox. As such, it is effectively a Defender, but without the badge!
Seats - the very early 110s used the same seat arrangements as the outgoing
109 and 88 Series III leaf sprung vehicles, with the later ones using the
seats as fitted right through to the Defender days. I don't know if yours
users the later type or the earlier Series - Exmoor Trim will be able to
tell you (I think if they are properly fitted and are like car seats they
are probably the later ones. If they are simply a seat cushion bottom and
seat cushion back resting against the bulkhead they are the series type). I
fitted Exmoor Trim Trakkers Extreme seats to my old Series III - which were
excellent. My friend who bought my Series III continues to rave about them.
My 110 has standard Defender style high back seats which are fine.
Henry
Devon
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Molesworth
"HM" <hjma...@coldmail.com> wrote:
> Seats - the very early 110s used the same seat arrangements as the outgoing
> 109 and 88 Series III leaf sprung vehicles, with the later ones using the
> seats as fitted right through to the Defender days.
So 1985 would be early for a Defender?
Lee_D
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at least 5 years too early. Its just lovingly refered to a 110 which should
be the badge on the grill if it is origional.
Lee D
HM
"Molesworth" <molesw...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Remember, Defender is just a name used to differentiate the traditional Land
Rover type from the Discovery.
The 110 Land Rover (later called the 110 Defender) was introduced in 1983
with the series style seats. I know that they had the new 'defender' style
seats in by 1989 (as I have a 1989 110). So, 1985 is mid way between the two
types of seat.
You can easily tell. Look at your seat. Is it on a metal frame held down to
the floor by 4 bolts, with a lever at the front that you pull up to slide it
backwards and forwards? If so it is the later type of seat. If it simply a
cushion on the base and a cushion at the back resting against the bulkhead
then it is the earlier series type.
And yes, a 1985 110 is an early one. Introduced in 1983, and still made now,
so yours was made 2 years in to the 26 year production run (which is
ongoing). However, as Land Rovers have been made since 1948, you could argue
it is a very recent one!
What type of engine have you got? A standard 2.5D or Petrol?
Henry
Molesworth
"HM" <hjma...@coldmail.com> wrote:
> "Molesworth" <molesw...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > So 1985 would be early for a Defender?
> >
>
>
> Remember, Defender is just a name used to differentiate the traditional Land
> Rover type from the Discovery.
>
> The 110 Land Rover (later called the 110 Defender) was introduced in 1983
> with the series style seats. I know that they had the new 'defender' style
> seats in by 1989 (as I have a 1989 110). So, 1985 is mid way between the two
> types of seat.
>
> You can easily tell. Look at your seat. Is it on a metal frame held down to
> the floor by 4 bolts, with a lever at the front that you pull up to slide it
> backwards and forwards? If so it is the later type of seat. If it simply a
> cushion on the base and a cushion at the back resting against the bulkhead
> then it is the earlier series type.
>
> And yes, a 1985 110 is an early one. Introduced in 1983, and still made now,
> so yours was made 2 years in to the 26 year production run (which is
> ongoing). However, as Land Rovers have been made since 1948, you could argue
> it is a very recent one!
>
> What type of engine have you got? A standard 2.5D or Petrol?
It's the diesel with serpentine belt.
Trubble is, it's in UK and I'm in USA. I'm shipping it in January to
meet EPA etc rules. However, my interest in seats is because the prev
owner says they are the only thing that need doing, so I wanted to get
new ones in UK before it shipped. I shall have pics by Monday and then
I'll know. It might be possible to just buy some recover sets. We will
see.
Thanks again,
Alan
Nige
You can get full re-trim kits shipped to the USA, loads of places do
them.