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William Black

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Dec 16, 2009, 4:31:43 PM12/16/09
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I now have to get a reasonably light but bulky wheelchair in and out of
the back of my Defender.

So I ring up a supplier of small cranes designed for such purposes.

Me: "Do you make these things, 40Kg lift capacity"

Then: "Yes Sir"

Me: "Can you sell me on please?"

Then: "No sir, we have to fit it ourselves"

Me: "Why, it's only simple?"

Them: "Health and Safety sir, you might sue us if you fitted it
incorrectly and someone was injured"

Me: "That's rubbish, the Health and Safety regs state that if I fit it
and it goes wrong it's my fault, besides, it isn't rocket science,
it's a winch.

Them: "Well sir there's two day course to learn how to fit them, they
are wired direct to the battery you know"

Me: "It's a Land Rover Defender, there's a special fuseway for a winch."

Them "Well we won't sell you one anyway.

Me: "OK, what'll it cost for you to fit it?"

Them: "Six hundred quid, you bring your car to us, no loan car,
it'll take all day, take it or leave it."

Me: Faints dead away...

Anyone know where I can buy one, or something like one?

--
William Black

"Any number under six"

The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of
Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat
single handed with a quarterstaff.

Bob Hobden

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Dec 16, 2009, 5:00:55 PM12/16/09
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"William Black" wrote ...


> I now have to get a reasonably light but bulky wheelchair in and out of
> the back of my Defender.
>
> So I ring up a supplier of small cranes designed for such purposes.
>
> Me: "Do you make these things, 40Kg lift capacity"
>
> Then: "Yes Sir"
>
> Me: "Can you sell me on please?"
>
> Then: "No sir, we have to fit it ourselves"
>
> Me: "Why, it's only simple?"
>
> Them: "Health and Safety sir, you might sue us if you fitted it
> incorrectly and someone was injured"
>
> Me: "That's rubbish, the Health and Safety regs state that if I fit it
> and it goes wrong it's my fault, besides, it isn't rocket science, it's
> a winch.
>
> Them: "Well sir there's two day course to learn how to fit them, they are
> wired direct to the battery you know"
>
> Me: "It's a Land Rover Defender, there's a special fuseway for a
> winch."
>
> Them "Well we won't sell you one anyway.
>
> Me: "OK, what'll it cost for you to fit it?"
>
> Them: "Six hundred quid, you bring your car to us, no loan car, it'll
> take all day, take it or leave it."
>
> Me: Faints dead away...
>
> Anyone know where I can buy one, or something like one?
>

Try asking the people that sell the Wheelchairs, they must know of a
supplier because I'm sure you aren't the first person in that predicament.
There are "cranes" to put bicycles on the top of cars, something similar
might work, don't know the weight capacity of those.
--
Regards
Bob Hobden
1986 90 Utility 2.5 petrol

William Black

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Dec 16, 2009, 5:45:16 PM12/16/09
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The people who sell wheelchairs seem to agree with the people selling
the hoists.

I can't find anything about the bike cranes.

Do you have a web page?

mark

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Dec 16, 2009, 6:06:34 PM12/16/09
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That`s quite a common item on ebay.Do a search for wheelchair.

Paul - xxx

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Dec 16, 2009, 6:07:16 PM12/16/09
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William Black wrote:

> I now have to get a reasonably light but bulky wheelchair in and out
> of the back of my Defender.

Snipped unreal, but entirely not unexpected discourse ...

> Anyone know where I can buy one, or something like one?

Could you modify an engine hoist maybe, with a small hand-winch,
possibly hooked up to a motor etc?

Maybe ebay 220348637319
and 400074004246
and 260521411251

or similar ... ;)

--
Paul - xxx

'96/'97 Landrover Discovery 300 Tdi
Dyna Tech Cro-Mo comp

Paul - xxx

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Dec 16, 2009, 6:15:42 PM12/16/09
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Paul - xxx wrote:

> William Black wrote:
>
> > I now have to get a reasonably light but bulky wheelchair in and
> > out of the back of my Defender.
>
> Snipped unreal, but entirely not unexpected discourse ...
>
> > Anyone know where I can buy one, or something like one?
>
> Could you modify an engine hoist maybe, with a small hand-winch,
> possibly hooked up to a motor etc?
>
> Maybe ebay 220348637319
> and 400074004246
> and 260521411251
>
> or similar ... ;)

In fact, perusing ebay .. 130352025196 .. should 'do it all' .. ;)

If you need it collecting it's only a few miles from me ...

Molesworth

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Dec 16, 2009, 8:31:46 PM12/16/09
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> >
> > "William Black" wrote ...
> >> I now have to get a reasonably light but bulky wheelchair in and out
> >> of the back of my Defender.
> >>
> >> Anyone know where I can buy one, or something like one?

William,

Also have a look at boat deck accessories. They have a hoist for
hoisting small outboards.

www.defender.com

William Black

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Dec 17, 2009, 6:25:22 AM12/17/09
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Paul - xxx wrote:
> Paul - xxx wrote:
>
>> William Black wrote:
>>
>>> I now have to get a reasonably light but bulky wheelchair in and
>>> out of the back of my Defender.
>> Snipped unreal, but entirely not unexpected discourse ...
>>
>>> Anyone know where I can buy one, or something like one?
>> Could you modify an engine hoist maybe, with a small hand-winch,
>> possibly hooked up to a motor etc?
>>
>> Maybe ebay 220348637319
>> and 400074004246
>> and 260521411251
>>
>> or similar ... ;)
>
> In fact, perusing ebay .. 130352025196 .. should 'do it all' .. ;)
>
> If you need it collecting it's only a few miles from me ...
>

Already on my 'watch' list.

I'll nip across and get it if I win it, I'm only in Scarborough.

William Black

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Dec 17, 2009, 6:25:43 AM12/17/09
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Now that's an idea...

Paul - xxx

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Dec 17, 2009, 4:57:18 PM12/17/09
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William Black wrote:

> Paul - xxx wrote:
> > Paul - xxx wrote:
> >
> > > William Black wrote:
> > >
> > > > I now have to get a reasonably light but bulky wheelchair in
> > > > and out of the back of my Defender.
> > > Snipped unreal, but entirely not unexpected discourse ...
> > >
> > > > Anyone know where I can buy one, or something like one?
> > > Could you modify an engine hoist maybe, with a small hand-winch,
> > > possibly hooked up to a motor etc?
> > >
> > > Maybe ebay 220348637319
> > > and 400074004246
> > > and 260521411251
> > >
> > > or similar ... ;)
> >
> > In fact, perusing ebay .. 130352025196 .. should 'do it all' .. ;)
> >
> > If you need it collecting it's only a few miles from me ...
> >
>
> Already on my 'watch' list.
>
> I'll nip across and get it if I win it, I'm only in Scarborough.

No worries, didn't know where you were ... ;)

cyberwraith

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Dec 17, 2009, 5:52:09 PM12/17/09
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"Paul - xxx" <notchec...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:xn0gj0oi...@news.individual.net...

Just read the above post. I use an electric hoist made by Brig Ayd. It has
been fitted into the back of my Rangie, a p38 but before that I had it in my
1994 disco, 'Edie'. The only thing that had to be done was extending the
lift boom by about a foot to clear the tail gate. The hoist uses electric
motors to move in and out and up and down. It lifts my disabled scooter into
the car no trouble. Lifting cap is 100Kg.

This is the sort of thing I use. eBay item number 160386945132. Brand new
they are very expensive but I got mine for �250 three years back.


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