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Dave Liquorice

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Dec 3, 2009, 9:53:27 AM12/3/09
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Just put a set of winter tyres on a spare set of rims. Now have 4
rims with summer tyres on that need storage. What is the best way?
Lying down on top of each other in a stack or stood as they would be
on vehicle? They will be in an unheated garage for probably 5 months.

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Ian Rawlings

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Dec 3, 2009, 12:54:44 PM12/3/09
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Personally I'd just stack them any old way as long as there wasn't water
pooling anywhere on them, after all without the weight of a vehicle on
them, they're not going to care much, it's not like they'll get
flatspotted. Water seeping past the tyre bead or pooling in the wheels
would be something to avoid though, as well as mice and all that kind of
garage stuff. UV deterioration isn't likely either in the winter ;-)

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John Williamson

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Dec 3, 2009, 1:45:17 PM12/3/09
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Ian Rawlings wrote:
> On 2009-12-03, Dave Liquorice <allsortsn...@howhill.com> wrote:
>
>> Just put a set of winter tyres on a spare set of rims. Now have 4
>> rims with summer tyres on that need storage. What is the best way?
>> Lying down on top of each other in a stack or stood as they would be
>> on vehicle? They will be in an unheated garage for probably 5 months.
>
> Personally I'd just stack them any old way as long as there wasn't water
> pooling anywhere on them, after all without the weight of a vehicle on
> them, they're not going to care much, it's not like they'll get
> flatspotted. Water seeping past the tyre bead or pooling in the wheels
> would be something to avoid though, as well as mice and all that kind of
> garage stuff. UV deterioration isn't likely either in the winter ;-)
>
To save floor space and such, get a scaffold pole, thread them onto it,
and suspend it up as high as you can. Either a cheap block & tackle each
end from the rafters or another couple of poles making a triangle at
each end. Poles and clamps aren't all that dear.

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hugh

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Dec 3, 2009, 1:53:15 PM12/3/09
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In message <7nqfafF...@mid.individual.net>, John Williamson
<johnwil...@btinternet.com> writes
Is this what is called a headbanger?
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It may be more complicated but is it better?

Dave Liquorice

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Dec 3, 2009, 2:16:57 PM12/3/09
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On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 18:53:15 +0000, hugh wrote:

> Is this what is called a headbanger?

He he, not a bad idea though assuming the hole in the middle of a
Discovery alloy wheel is big enough to take a scaff pole. One snag
might be that they would tend to twist on the pole as the balance
point is well back from the hole. It would also take some lifting
with 4 tyres and rims on, I wouldn't be surprised if the total wasn't
around 200kg.

Think I'll go for the normal way up rather than a lying down stack.
In a stack the bottom one would have the weight of the three above it
bearing on it. I'd had just the rims stacked like that with bits of
roofing lath between 'em the lower bits of wood had significant dents
where the rims had rested.

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Ian Rawlings

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Dec 3, 2009, 2:35:27 PM12/3/09
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On 2009-12-03, Dave Liquorice <allsortsn...@howhill.com> wrote:

> Think I'll go for the normal way up rather than a lying down stack.
> In a stack the bottom one would have the weight of the three above it
> bearing on it.

It's a lot less than it's used to.. Those things mostly retain their
shape when you're going round corners remember!

Lee_D

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Dec 3, 2009, 5:07:24 PM12/3/09
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"Ian Rawlings" <new...@tarcus.org.uk> wrote in message
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> On 2009-12-03, Dave Liquorice <allsortsn...@howhill.com> wrote:
>
>> Think I'll go for the normal way up rather than a lying down stack.
>> In a stack the bottom one would have the weight of the three above it
>> bearing on it.
>
> It's a lot less than it's used to.. Those things mostly retain their
> shape when you're going round corners remember!

Around corners.... it doesn't sound right. Around bends is fine but how do
we actually get around a corner. H'mmm

I've been stuck in the house for a week! Does it show?

Lee

Dave Liquorice

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Dec 3, 2009, 5:12:37 PM12/3/09
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On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 19:35:27 +0000, Ian Rawlings wrote:

>> Think I'll go for the normal way up rather than a lying down
stack.
>> In a stack the bottom one would have the weight of the three above
it
>> bearing on it.
>
> It's a lot less than it's used to.. Those things mostly retain their
> shape when you're going round corners remember!

Not in vertical stack, the load is onto the side of the side walls
not the edges (IYSWIM) and most vehicles move fairly frequently not
be sat for 5 months. They maybe crap tyres in the cold and wet but
summer is fine and they are only about 1/2 worn in about 20,000 miles
I'd like to get the other 20,000 out of 'em... There's slightly more
chance of me moving 'em if all I have to do is roll 'e, about rather
than heave 'em off a stack.

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Ian Rawlings

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Dec 3, 2009, 5:16:43 PM12/3/09
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On 2009-12-03, Lee_D <newsgrou...@NOSPAMlrproject.com> wrote:

> Around corners.... it doesn't sound right. Around bends is fine but how do
> we actually get around a corner. H'mmm
>
> I've been stuck in the house for a week! Does it show?

Well the windows are all very clean, must be the licking.

Ian Rawlings

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Dec 3, 2009, 5:20:12 PM12/3/09
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On 2009-12-03, Dave Liquorice <allsortsn...@howhill.com> wrote:

> Not in vertical stack, the load is onto the side of the side walls
> not the edges (IYSWIM) and most vehicles move fairly frequently not
> be sat for 5 months.

Yes those tyres are oh so delicate things!

> They maybe crap tyres in the cold and wet but
> summer is fine and they are only about 1/2 worn in about 20,000 miles
> I'd like to get the other 20,000 out of 'em... There's slightly more
> chance of me moving 'em if all I have to do is roll 'e, about rather
> than heave 'em off a stack.

Yes there is that, although they're easier to keep still when they're on
the flat bit.

How about taking them inside the house and using them to prop up some
planks of wood and describing it as a coffee table?

Oily

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Dec 3, 2009, 6:45:30 PM12/3/09
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"Dave Liquorice" <allsortsn...@howhill.com> wrote in message
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> Cheers
> Dave.
>
Stack them on top of each other but make sure the floor is flat with no old
bolts etc which the tyrewalls could rest on. And rubber stores better in
damp and cold conditions rather than warm and dry.


Muddymike

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Dec 4, 2009, 5:39:33 AM12/4/09
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"Dave Liquorice" <allsortsn...@howhill.com> wrote in
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I alternately store the winter/summer wheels of our Forester. The
method I use is to hang them individually from a screw in the
wall with loop of nylon rope. I also reduce the pressure of the
stored wheels to about half running pressure on recommendation
from a tyre specialist.

Mike


Dave Liquorice

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Dec 4, 2009, 12:19:40 PM12/4/09
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On Fri, 4 Dec 2009 10:39:33 -0000, Muddymike wrote:

> The method I use is to hang them individually from a screw in the
> wall with loop of nylon rope.

Some "screw", weighed one this afternoon 32kg.

> I also reduce the pressure of the stored wheels to about half running
> pressure on recommendation from a tyre specialist.

As they are stood I think I'll keep the pressure up. If the tyres had
nothing pressing on them I'd probably reduce the pressure.

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Dave Liquorice

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Dec 4, 2009, 12:23:38 PM12/4/09
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On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 22:20:12 +0000, Ian Rawlings wrote:

>> Not in vertical stack, the load is onto the side of the side walls
>> not the edges (IYSWIM) and most vehicles move fairly frequently
not
>> be sat for 5 months.
>
> Yes those tyres are oh so delicate things!

Yeah I know, I'm probably fussing about nothing.

> How about taking them inside the house and using them to prop up some
> planks of wood and describing it as a coffee table?

Already have a several sets of old tyres that are used as planters.
Got a reasonable potatoe crop from one stack the other year. Well we
got back more potatoes than we planted and IIRC they weren't proper
seed potatoes either.

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Lee_D

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Dec 4, 2009, 1:48:18 PM12/4/09
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"Ian Rawlings" <new...@tarcus.org.uk> wrote in message
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> On 2009-12-03, Lee_D <newsgrou...@NOSPAMlrproject.com> wrote:
>
>> Around corners.... it doesn't sound right. Around bends is fine but how
>> do
>> we actually get around a corner. H'mmm
>>
>> I've been stuck in the house for a week! Does it show?
>
> Well the windows are all very clean, must be the licking.


Takes much longer in the thraweezing early mornings I'll tell you. Thwost
bite.

Lee

Lee_D

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Dec 4, 2009, 1:49:31 PM12/4/09
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"Ian Rawlings" <new...@tarcus.org.uk> wrote in message
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> On 2009-12-03, Lee_D <newsgrou...@NOSPAMlrproject.com> wrote:
>
>> Around corners.... it doesn't sound right. Around bends is fine but how
>> do
>> we actually get around a corner. H'mmm
>>
>> I've been stuck in the house for a week! Does it show?
>
> Well the windows are all very clean, must be the licking.

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Dec 9, 2009, 6:45:00 AM12/9/09
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In article <nyyfbegfubjuvyypb...@srv1.howhill.co.uk>, Dave
Liquorice <allsortsn...@howhill.com> writes

I'd say that's wise. Even if they were tubed, it stops stuff (small
insects etc.) getting between tyre and rim, and ought to help keep both
in better nick.

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