Landmark At The Top (Of The Dung-Heap)

[elle...@gmail.com]

...Or Landmarky-type ~creating your own reality,~ which has brought low the prevaricators of the Republican Party, who might actually have to do a day's work to earn their next meal. Hmmm....Where did they learn this? From the closed-club of rich-'n'-privileged whom Werner Erhard hopes to cultivate for his "legacy" of phony-baloney ~integrity~ or from the old gas-bag himself? Is it any big mystery that those who aspire to the top of the pyramid (scheme) might cleave to the message of Werner Erhard-type cracked-pot logic where Ayn Rand rules the roost and the wealthy don't have to feel bad about the kleptocracy or hoarding their vast wealth while the "moochers" starve in the streets...

http://www.salon.com/2012/11/17/conservatives_crisis_of_confidence/

"...Clearly, the only explanation for all this delusion is that conservative media and campaign consultants, steeped in years of confidently lying about everything from global warming to the causes of the deficit, got a little too bold about their ability to create their own realities. The only question is whether conservatives will learn their lesson and exhibit more skepticism about their self-selected news media in the future."



Any likelihood of that happening?

Nahhhh. They breathe too many of their own fumes.


Ellen

[Kenny McCormick]

Gobbledygook from a paranoid mind.

[patrick]

no its not kenny. its not at all.

[Kenny McCormick]

Jesus Loves Ellen

[patrick]

yes Jesus does love ellen and u too.

[Kenny McCormick]

> yes Jesus does love ellen and u too.

Jesus loves Scientology, Bin Laden and you to.

[patrick]

On Sunday, November 18, 2012 7:12:53 PM UTC-6, Kenny McCormick wrote:
> > yes Jesus does love ellen and u too.
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Jesus loves all people. all people dont love Jesus.

scientology is a sick cult. bin laden is dead so his game is over.

[Kenny McCormick]

Jesus love alive and dead people. Jesus loves Scientology. Jesus loves
you Patrick. All people love Jesus, no discussion on this fact.

[Serena Nordstrup]

On 19 Nov, 07:51, Kenny McCormick <kennymccormicksfa...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Like the politics of Gormenghast.

[Serena Nordstrup]

On 19 Nov, 14:55, Kenny McCormick <kennymccormicksfa...@gmail.com>
wrote:

And due to his Jewishness, everyone always loved Jews.

... then along came Nietzsche ...

[elle...@gmail.com]

Oh, oh...

Didn't you get the memo?

At Landmark, and according to Werner Erhard, you get to ~create your own reality,~ and do it with -- guess what? -- words! Yep, words. And whatever you SAY is ~true~ is ~true for you.~ Get it? You're god of your own planet, where YOU are in charge. Hmmmm....where did he get this silly, juvenile fantasy-type notion that he was able to package and peddle to thousands of power(~empowerment~)-hungry fools with more money than sense (and make millions for himself in the process)? Could it be....or do I smell the rotten corpse of ElRon?

Soooo, pal, (not really considering you my pal),

De facto evidence says yours is the gobbledygook paranoid mind if you drank the Kool-Aid, which you appear to have done. Est/Landmark, like most cults, prey on the fearful, neurotic, or "worried well" who still manage to get to work every day so they have enough money in their wallets to pay for expensive "programs." I invite you to examine whatever personal fear you might have harbored to allow these scammers to insinuate themselves into your consciousness and plant their evil seeds. Were you afraid the rest of your life might turn out to be like the first bit?


Ellen

[Kenny McCormick]

Ellen, Scientology clearly owns you for life. You will never escape
it. Now your brother might have left it behind him, but you never
will.

[kcass...@hotmail.com]

Unfortunate you choose diatribe over truth. "Clearly Ellen is not here in any shape or form representing Scientology, signed X Flag Staff

[kcass...@hotmail.com]

correction..."Clearly"

[Kenny McCormick]

"Representing"? No.

Bound for life to L Ron Hubbard? 'Clearly" yes.

[elle...@gmail.com]

LOL...

Nope, I'm not. Scientology has plenty enough of its own critics who're doing a bang-up job.

Have you seen the first expose of scientology made by ITV in Britain in the 1960's? You'd have thought that it would have put L. Ron out of business forty years ago, but there you go. These things are like weeds. And they're always waiting for a lull in the bad PR to swoop in on the unaware, naive, and gullible.


Ellen

[Kenny McCormick]

You say "Nope, I'm not." but your actions reveal that you are in fact
forever bound to Hubbard. Where you go, "L Ron Hubbard" follows. Like
a small brained parrot or a answering machine set to "Auto" , you
will be repeating "L. Ron Hubbard's" name 25 years from now. Same as
yesterday. Enjoy your chains.

[elle...@gmail.com]

Only in your mind, buddy. (Not really considering you my buddy.)

Nope, the disintegration of Cap'n Kangaroo/Hubbard and all his disciples is going on nicely with no input from me. His ~victims~ have been all over the place lately talking up a storm.

Werner Erhard is my boogie-man and his association with L. Ron Hubbard is only a fraction of the bad news about him and his stupid cult. It would be just as easy to debunk est/Landmark without the scientology component, but it would take longer and this place demands the short-take. Werner was said to have called his own schtick, "Scientology without the woo-woo." That must tell you something.


Ellen

[Kenny McCormick]

Your own words expose your fixation Ellen.

"Hubbard" "Hubbard" "Hubbard" "Hubbard" "Hubbard" "Hubbard"
"Hubbard" ....and so it will continue till you are in the old folks
home, and on your death bead.

Is your brother as bound to a life with "Hubbard" as you are?

[Kenny McCormick]

> the disintegration of Cap'n Kangaroo/Hubbard and all his disciples is going on nicely with no input from me.  His ~victims~ have been all over the place lately talking up a storm.

↑ Evidence of Ellen's obsession with "Hubbard" and what she spends her
real life following. :-) ↑










Along with, of course, the other 1921 times Ellen interjaculated "L.
Ron Hubbard" into a discussion in this fan site.

[bentot]

She can't, or wont, hear a word of what you said. Goes right over her
head. Hubbard, et al, is/are the albatross(s) she chooses to carry
around her neck forever. wasting a lot of energy.

bentot

Just back from the Caribbean cruse :-)) !!

[tubby]

Welcome back Ben.
Tell us about your trip.

cheers Bruno

[Tex]

On Monday, November 19, 2012 11:52:13 AM UTC-5, elle...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, November 18, 2012 10:51:48 AM UTC-8, Kenny McCormick wrote:
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> > On Nov 18, 10:16 am, ellena...@gmail.com wrote:
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> > > ...Or Landmarky-type ~creating your own reality,~ which has brought low the prevaricators of the Republican Party, who might actually have to do a day's work to earn their next meal.  Hmmm....Where did they learn this?  From the closed-club of rich-'n'-privileged whom Werner Erhard hopes to cultivate for his "legacy" of phony-baloney ~integrity~ or from the old gas-bag himself?  Is it any big mystery that those who aspire to the top of the pyramid (scheme) might cleave to the message of Werner Erhard-type cracked-pot logic where Ayn Rand rules the roost and the wealthy don't have to feel bad about the kleptocracy or hoarding their vast wealth while the "moochers" starve in the streets...
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> Didn't you get the memo?

Didn't take the seminar, Ellen?
Obviously not.
Your characterization of what Landmark and Werner said is not accurate.

But I'm sure you really believe this is true.

Obviously, the Republicans were/are living in a world of self-delusion.
I've met some est/Landmarkians that did also.

This is also true for most people in the world to some degree or another, as you illustrate with your BELIEF regarding Landmark and est.

Virgin births, magic under wear, economic stimulus by cutting taxes to the rich etc.

When creating your reality becomes a BELIEF it then becomes useless.
I wouldn't expect you to ~get~ that. :)

[bentot]

On Tue, 20 Nov 2012 14:14:22 -0800 (PST), tubby <bton...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Hi Bruno,

The cruise was very nice. We traveled with another couple. Of the
eleven commercial ships I've been on, this one (Norwegian Pearl of
Norwegian Cruise Line (NCL)) was the most enjoyable. My honey really
enjoyed it too. Until this one, she had been turned off about large
cruise ships, favoring the much smaller river cruise ships in Europe
and Russia. Now, she is fired up to go on another NCL one.

Departure and termination were in Miami, The islands visited were
Stirrup Cay (owned by NCL), Jamaica, Grand Cayman and Cozumel. We
visited all excepting Stirrup Cay. Our visits on the others was 3 to
four hours. I can't tolerate long bus trips any more. Because we
have been jaded by many tropical island before, we found the islands
un-remarkable. Those who wanted to buy gems could fine good deals in
Grand Cayman.

We played many games of Mexican Train and Rummycube near one of the
swimming pools on deck 13. The games are not commonly known, so we
had lots of on-lookers.

The temperatures were in the 80's and 90" with only a couple light
rains.

The 965 foot long ship was fantastic. Good food. Excellent
accommodations and service. Lots of good entertainment. Several good
bars that knew how to build martinis without coaching. :) Stayed
out of the casino. Our favorite show was four entertainers doing
Frankie Valli songs.

The first day out in the Atlantic, we had some light seas that made
dancing interesting. It was necessary to add some extra steps to our
dances in order to keep our feet under us! It was much fun. My honey
and I never get seasick, but the other guy had to wear a patch to stay
well.

May countries were represented in the crew. Lots of Philippinos, so I
got to limber up my Tagalog.

The below links will show highlights of the ship.

Flying back to Tucson was a two-day ordeal caused by a very delayed
plane at Miami International. All the passengers had to get
re-routed. The airline provided free food and room and routed us
through Chicago late the next day. Very tiring and trying. Got home
at midnight. Then crashed!!!

And, I would do it all over again!!

The links:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6BdddSTXng&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19vwTHLVk-w&feature=related

http://cruises.jetblue.com/c/shipdetail.asp?lineid=34&vessel=556


regards, Ben

[Serena Nordstrup]

On Nov 21, 4:58 am, Kenny McCormick <kennymccormicksfa...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Nov 20, 10:49 am, ellena...@gmail.com wrote:
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> > On Tuesday, November 20, 2012 1:45:46 AM UTC-8, kcass...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, November 20, 2012 1:41:12 AM UTC-8, kcass...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > > > On Monday, November 19, 2012 4:24:37 PM UTC-8, Kenny McCormick wrote:
>
> > > > > Ellen, Scientology clearly owns you for life. You will never escape
>
> > > > > it. Now your brother might have left it behind him,  but you never
>
> > > > > will.
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> > > > Unfortunate you choose diatribe over truth. "Clearly Ellen is not here in any shape or form representing Scientology, signed X Flag Staff
>
> > > correction..."Clearly"
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> > LOL...
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> > Nope, I'm not.  Scientology has plenty enough of its own critics who're doing a bang-up job.
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> > Have you seen the first expose of scientology made by ITV in Britain in the 1960's?  You'd have thought that it would have put L. Ron out of business forty years ago, but there you go.  These things are like weeds.  And they're always waiting for a lull in the bad PR to swoop in on the unaware, naive, and gullible.
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> > Ellen
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> You say "Nope, I'm not."  but your actions reveal

What a novel idea: analyzing actions! Where did THAT come from?

[tubby]

On Nov 22, 7:43 am, bentot <bentot1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Nov 2012 14:14:22 -0800 (PST), tubby <btono...@gmail.com>

Thanks Ben.

Good to hear all well and that you had a great time with your "Honey"

Just wonder why the Muses and friends never report good news???

It's often misery for them

Can't work that out

Regards Bruno

[Serena Nordstrup]

Which Muses, Bruno? Which friends?

> never report good news???

Ever wonder how "alt.fan.landmark" decodes into "alt.fan.goodnews",
Bruno?

> It's often  misery for them

How often? As often as the bad news about "Big Pharma"?

> Can't work that out

~Possibly~ not. What ~distinctions~ have you used so far to ~try~ to
work that out, Bruno?

> Regards  Bruno

[tubby]

There you go the misery Muse has spoken.
Now how about that drink to bring you out of that misery???

Cheers

[Serena Nordstrup]

What ~distinctions~ have you used so far to ~try~ to work why some
fictional muses and their fictional friends allegedly never report
news which you might categorize as "good", Bruno?

> > > Regards  Bruno
>
> There you go the misery Muse has spoken.
> Now how about that drink to bring you out of that misery???

... having too much fun taunting you with your lack of
responsiveness ...

[tubby]

> responsiveness ...- Hide quoted text -


My dear Muse you can taunt as much as you like because I am over it.
It has no affect on me anymore.

The Princess is a flake, she has no clothes

Now how about that drink

Cheers
> - Show quoted text -

[Serena Nordstrup]

<snip>

> > > > > > regards, Ben
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> > > > > Thanks Ben.
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> > > > > Good to hear all well and that you had a great time with your "Honey"
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> > > > > Just wonder why the Muses and friends
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> > > > Which Muses, Bruno? Which friends?
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> > Which Muses, Bruno? Which friends?

To which Muses do you refer, Bruno? And to which friends?

> > > > > never report good news???
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> > > > Ever wonder how "alt.fan.landmark" decodes into "alt.fan.goodnews",
> > > > Bruno?
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> > Ever wonder how "alt.fan.landmark" decodes into "alt.fan.goodnews",
> > Bruno?

Ever wonder how "alt.fan.landmark" decodes into "alt.fan.goodnews",
Bruno?

> > > > > It's often  misery for them
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> > > > How often? As often as the bad news about "Big Pharma"?
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> > How often? As often as the bad news about "Big Pharma"?

How often do these imagined fictional beings ~experience~ misery,
Bruno? As often as you post bad news about "Big Pharma"?

> > > > > Can't work that out
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> > > > ~Possibly~ not. What ~distinctions~ have you used so far to ~try~ to
> > > > work that out, Bruno?
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> > What ~distinctions~ have you used so far to ~try~ to  work why some
> > fictional muses and their fictional friends allegedly never report
> > news which you might categorize as "good", Bruno?

What ~distinctions~ have you used so far to ~try~ to  work why some
fictional muses and their fictional friends allegedly never report
news which you might categorize as "good", Bruno?

> > > > > Regards  Bruno
>
> > > There you go the misery Muse has spoken.
> > > Now how about that drink to bring you out of that misery???
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> > ... having too much fun taunting you with your lack of
> > responsiveness ...- Hide quoted text -
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> My dear Muse you can taunt as much as you like because I am over it.
> It has no affect on me anymore.

So you leave questions dangling unanswered rather than portray
rosenbergism in a bad light ?

> The Princess is a flake, she has no clothes

The "baroness" has some questions for you...