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TJ

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Apr 7, 2013, 9:27:26 AM4/7/13
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In no particular order these exceptional revenge films come to mind:

Zero Dark Thirty
Mad Max
Faster
Oldboy
Kill Bill: 1 and 2
Straw Dogs
Cape Fear (the original)
Carrie
Unforgiven
V for Vendetta
Man on Fire *
Revenge *



* (R.I.P Tony Scott)

Caligari

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Apr 7, 2013, 3:13:51 PM4/7/13
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A list started of films about and from New Age Organizations. Feel
free to fill in the list.

About
---------
Semi Tough
- Werner and est
- articles w/pics from the film: http://open.salon.com/blog/larry_lauerman/2011/09/20/the_est_people
The Master
- L. Ron Hubbard and the start of Scientology)
- clips and trailers: http://www.themasterfilm.com
Ticket To Heaven
- similar to many guru 60's groups, but may reference most the Hare
Krishnas, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Society_for_Krishna_Consciousness
- The movie on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoavV7D74BU
The Source Family
- New documentary on Father Yod or YaHoWha, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Father_Yod
- Film website: http://www.thesourcedoc.com
(A new age group that had a psychedelic rock band in the
Hollywood Hills, now that looks interesting.)
add more...

From
-------
Transformation: The Life and Legacy of Werner Erhard
- Werner's autobiography
- Watch on Hulu: http://www.hulu.com/watch/151134
Battlefield Earth
- Made by scientologist John Travolta of L. Ron Hubbard's sci-fic
story.
- Trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9Vp0vtga8Y (recommend
seeing it, it's so bad it's amazing.)
The Secret
- The wish fulfillment book also has a film, http://thesecret.tv/thesecretfilm/
What the Bleep Do We Know!?
- Ramtha School of Enlightenment devotees made a film promoting
their ideas, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_the_Bleep_Do_We_Know!%3F
- Film website: http://www.whatthebleep.com
add more...

TJ

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Apr 7, 2013, 4:08:58 PM4/7/13
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Your post is all very old repetetive ground for this newsgroup Caligari. Are yo stuck in the past or just trolling this topic of Revenge films?

TJ

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Apr 7, 2013, 6:14:49 PM4/7/13
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Lousy films not too many people ever saw, courtesy of Caligari:

Semi Tough
The Master
Ticket To Heaven
Krishnas
The Source Family
Transformation: The Life and Legacy of Werner Erhard
Battlefield Earth
The Secret
What the Bleep Do We Know!?


"The New Age" was the best film about the new age. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110649/
It deserves better than the low IMDB rating it has here.

Try as you might to lump Erhard, est and Landmark into a category of your own creation that you can more easily invalidate, Werner Erhard, est, and Landmark Education is not "New Age organization". You can label it the "Easter Bunny Organization" if that floats your boat Caliagri, it still does not make it true. It just makes you a person desperate to get his revenge on those he perceives did him wrong.

TJ

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Apr 7, 2013, 6:29:33 PM4/7/13
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Unlike the obscure crap Caligari listed, here are some watchable films that could be called "new age":

Matrix (Written and directed by Landmark Graduate)
Inception
The Game
Fight Club (Written by Landmark graduate)
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Crash
Donnie Darko

Feel free to fill in the list. ;)

Caligari

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Apr 7, 2013, 7:08:05 PM4/7/13
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On Apr 7, 3:14 pm, TJ <thetroublewitht...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Lousy films not too many people ever saw, courtesy of Caligari:
>
> Semi Tough
> The Master
> Ticket To Heaven
> Krishnas
>  The Source Family
> Transformation: The Life and Legacy of Werner Erhard
>  Battlefield Earth
> The Secret
> What the Bleep Do We Know!?
>
> "The New Age" was the best film about the new age.http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110649/
> It deserves better than the low IMDB rating it has here.
>
> Try as you might to lump Erhard, est and Landmark  into a category of your own creation that you can more easily invalidate,  Werner Erhard, est, and Landmark Education is not "New Age organization". You can label it the "Easter Bunny Organization" if that floats your boat Caliagri, it still does not make it true. It just makes you a person desperate to get his revenge on those he perceives did him wrong.

"Transformation: The Life and Legacy of Werner Erhard" is a lousy
film.

;)
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TJ

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Apr 7, 2013, 9:57:54 PM4/7/13
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> "Transformation: The Life and Legacy of Werner Erhard" is a lousy film.
>
>
>
> ;)

As far as high quality documentaries go it is lousy IMO. The film as a work that stands on it's own as a film to an audience who might not already be "enrolled" in the topic, is nothing special like all the other films you mentioned. Having said that, for the already interested in the topic, the found footage was brilliant and updated clips or Werner explaining himself and his efforts were illuminating, a great man worthy of listening to, and the almost total absence of the thoughtless parroting inconsiderate Caligari Ellen Rick Ross revenge peashooter point of view is refreshing.

;)

Caligari

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Apr 8, 2013, 3:02:01 AM4/8/13
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On Apr 7, 3:14 pm, TJ <thetroublewitht...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Lousy films not too many people ever saw, courtesy of Caligari:
>

The independent and studio films made about New Age Organizations
received good to fair ticket sales, overall high critic rating and
significant awards:

> Semi Tough
U.S. Domestic Total Est. Tickets: 16,675,800 -- seems like a few
people saw this. http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=semitough.htm&adjust_yr=1&p=.htm
Critics rating: 80% positive
Award: In 1978, Walter Bernstein received a nomination for a WGA
Award from the Writers Guild of America in the "Best Comedy Adapted
from Another Medium" category, for his adaptation of Dan Jenkins'
novel. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semi_tough#Awards
> The Master
U.S. Domestic Total Est. Tickets: 2,064,100 - came out last year,
but not bad. http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=themaster.htm&adjust_yr=1&p=.htm
Critic rating: 86% positive
Awards:
- Academy Awards nominated for Best Performance by an Actor in
a Leading Role, Best Performance by an Actor in a Supporting Role,
Best Performance by an Actress in a Supporting Role
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Master_(2012_film)#Accolades
> Ticket To Heaven
> Krishnas
Awards: Genie Awards won Best Motion Picture, Best Performance by
an Actor in a Leading Role, Best Performance by an Actor in a
Supporting Role
>  The Source Family
Not yet released and reviewed.

The film made by New Age Organizations and their followers did badly
on all fronts:

> Transformation: The Life and Legacy of Werner Erhard
>  Battlefield Earth
> The Secret
> What the Bleep Do We Know!?
>

-- Caligari

> <snip>

TJ

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Apr 8, 2013, 7:12:29 AM4/8/13
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> The film made by New Age Organizations and their followers did badly on all fronts:

Caligari, YOU are the only "New Age Organization" here, and alt.fan.revengeclub are your "followers". And you are doing predictably and boringly "on all fronts".

Serena Nordstrup

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Apr 8, 2013, 8:02:24 AM4/8/13
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On Apr 8, 8:08 am, TJ <thetroublewitht...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Your post is all very old repetetive ground for this newsgroup Caligari. Are yo stuck in the past or just trolling this topic of Revenge films?

Bill Shakespeare unpeeled the old revenge trope in "Hamlet". Also
hauled out of the past and subsequently filmed.

TJ

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Apr 8, 2013, 8:08:10 AM4/8/13
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> Bill Shakespeare unpeeled the old revenge trope in "Hamlet". Also hauled out of the past and subsequently filmed.

huh? Do you even know what you are talking about Nordstrop? I have no clue. Something aboutBill and peeling Hamlet and hauling and films?

Serena Nordstrup

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Apr 8, 2013, 8:22:16 AM4/8/13
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On Apr 8, 10:14 am, TJ <thetroublewitht...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Lousy films not too many people ever saw, courtesy of Caligari:
>
> Semi Tough
> The Master
> Ticket To Heaven
> Krishnas
>  The Source Family
> Transformation: The Life and Legacy of Werner Erhard
>  Battlefield Earth
> The Secret
> What the Bleep Do We Know!?
>
> "The New Age" was the best film about the new age.http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110649/
> It deserves better than the low IMDB rating it has here.
>
> Try as you might to lump Erhard, est and Landmark  into a category of your own creation

... so when the Association for Business Simulation and Experiential
Learning/North American Simulation and Gaming Association/
International Simulation and Gaming Association described AHLEF in
Volume 8 of "Simulation and Games" (page 150) in 1977 they ripped of
Caligari's invention of the phrase "New Age org"? -- I didn't know
that!

> that you can more easily invalidate,  Werner Erhard, est, and Landmark Education is not "New Age organization".

"New-age disorganization" might convey a more accurate impression.
(Rosenbergists even have trouble keeping ~statistics~ straight.)

> You can label it the "Easter Bunny Organization" if that floats your boat Caliagri, it still does not make it true. It just makes you a person desperate to get his revenge on those he perceives did him wrong.

Labeling as a form of revenge -- what an insight into the psychology
of Linnaeus ...

Serena Nordstrup

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Apr 8, 2013, 8:24:39 AM4/8/13
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Refreshingly one-sided or refreshingly simplistick?

> ;)

Serena Nordstrup

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Apr 8, 2013, 8:29:59 AM4/8/13
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On Apr 8, 11:12 pm, TJ <thetroublewitht...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > The film made by New Age Organizations and their followers did badly on all fronts:
>
> Caligari, YOU are the only "New Age Organization" here, and alt.fan.revengeclub are your "followers". And you are doing predictably and boringly "on all fronts".

Does your resort to ad-hominem irrationality suggest that the films
listed by Caligari:

Transformation: The Life and Legacy of Werner Erhard
Battlefield Earth
The Secret
What the Bleep Do We Know!?

did not do badly on all fronts?

Serena Nordstrup

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Apr 8, 2013, 8:33:50 AM4/8/13
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On Apr 8, 10:29 am, TJ <thetroublewitht...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Unlike the obscure crap Caligari listed, here are some watchable films that could be called "new age":
>
> Matrix (Written and directed by Landmark Graduate)
> Inception
> The Game
> Fight Club (Written by Landmark graduate)
> Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
> Crash
> Donnie Darko

At least the category "new age" appears to exist...

How do the films you list rate on well-accepted watchability indexes?

TJ

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Apr 8, 2013, 8:41:48 AM4/8/13
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> At least the category "new age" appears to exist...


The "category" "easter bunny" appears to exist as well, so what?


> How do the films you list rate on well-accepted watchability indexes?


They all rate 42+

TJ

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Apr 8, 2013, 4:18:25 PM4/8/13
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> Refreshingly one-sided or refreshingly simplistick?


Refreshingly unique.

The film did not need to recycle and repeat for the millionth time all the old hearsay garbage you and your small but loud true believer group, have been spouting for 30+ years now. You and Caligari have no problem being broken records on the internet but the rest of the world has better things to do. Maybe you need to hire Rick Ross for some expensive exit counselling? You appear to have become trapped in a cult like loop where there is no thinking just parroting some old tape you blindly believe?

in...@rickross.com
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exit_counseling

TJ

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Apr 8, 2013, 6:06:44 PM4/8/13
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> > The Master
>
> U.S. Domestic Total Est. Tickets: 2,064,100 - came out last year,
>
> but not bad. http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=themaster.htm&adjust_yr=1&p=.htm
>
> Critic rating: 86% positive
>
> Awards:
>
> - Academy Awards nominated for Best Performance by an Actor in
>
> a Leading Role, Best Performance by an Actor in a Supporting Role,
>
> Best Performance by an Actress in a Supporting Role
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Master_(2012_film)#Accolades


if you go to the extreme anti-scientology websites populated by anonymous guy fawks mask wearing geniuses you will see that the true believers there think "The Master" was a failure because it did not promote their extreme lopsided hateful point of views on Scientology just so. They wanted it to be a scathing anti-scientlogy film much like the critics at alt.fan.landmark think Transformation was obligated to be an anti-Erhard film or of course it was a "puff piece", "an infomercial" etc blah blah blah. As Nordstrop put it: "Refreshingly one-sided or refreshingly simplistick". Everyone must agree with you true believers or they are uninformed apologists who do not have a clue. How convenient and how blatantly culty.

TJ

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Apr 8, 2013, 6:23:46 PM4/8/13
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"The Master" was not enough of a revenge film for the Scientology loathing scentology critics. You agree with the "CO$" hating film "critics" Caligari?

Caligari

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Apr 8, 2013, 7:32:45 PM4/8/13
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On Apr 8, 3:23 pm, TJ <thetroublewitht...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "The Master" was not enough of a revenge film for the Scientology loathing scentology critics.  You agree with the "CO$" hating film "critics" Caligari?

Scientology's ideas are too bizarre to think much about them. Sounds
like you like them. Werner didn't care much for their actions toward
him,

http://www.wernererhard.com/la_times.html

TJ

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Apr 8, 2013, 8:12:28 PM4/8/13
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> Scientology's ideas are too bizarre to think much about them. Sounds
>
> like you like them.


Where did you get that I "like them" from what I wrote?


> Werner didn't care much for their actions toward him,

Where did you get access to Werner's views on Scientology? You must have spoken to him because I have never heard him express any such thing publicly. Please do tell.


> http://www.wernererhard.com/la_times.html

TJ

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Apr 8, 2013, 8:35:01 PM4/8/13
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> Scientology's ideas are too bizarre to think much about them.

Caligari, I asked you about the critics of Scientology's criticisms of film "The Master", I did not mention or ask about Scientology, was that not clear? Here it is again below (notice what the focus of what was written was versus the focus you 9 project onto what was written, are not the same.)

"If you go to the extreme anti-scientology websites populated by anonymous guy fawks mask wearing geniuses you will see that the true believers there think "The Master" was a failure because it did not promote their extreme lopsided hateful point of views on Scientology just so. They wanted it to be a scathing anti-scientlogy film much like the critics at alt.fan.landmark think Transformation was obligated to be an anti-Erhard film or of course it was a "puff piece", "an infomercial" etc blah blah blah. As Nordstrop put it: "Refreshingly one-sided or refreshingly simplistick". Everyone must agree with you true believers or they are uninformed apologists who do not have a clue. How convenient and how blatantly culty. "

Caligari

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Apr 8, 2013, 8:35:16 PM4/8/13
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On Monday, April 8, 2013 5:12:28 PM UTC-7, TJ wrote:
> > Scientology's ideas are too bizarre to think much about them. Sounds
>
> >
>
> > like you like them.
>
>
>
>
>
> Where did you get that I "like them" from what I wrote?
>

It sounded like you did. Do you?

>
>
>
>
> > Werner didn't care much for their actions toward him,
>
>
>
> Where did you get access to Werner's views on Scientology? You must have spoken to him because I have never heard him express any such thing publicly. Please do tell.
>

On the Larry King interview with Werner from Moscow, Russia on December 8, 1993 Werner talked about Scientology going after him.

-- Caligari
>
>
>
>
> > http://www.wernererhard.com/la_times.html

TJ

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Apr 8, 2013, 8:50:33 PM4/8/13
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> It sounded like you did. Do you?

Specifically what "sounded" like I "did"?



> On the Larry King interview with Werner from Moscow, Russia on December 8, 1993 Werner talked about Scientology going after him.

> -- Caligari

I have seen that interview a couple of times. If memory serves, Erhard talks about Scientology's 'campaign of harassment'. He spoke of his concern for his personal safety and why he made the choices he made re: leaving the US. At no point in the piece did he express "not caring" for their actions "towards him".

Where did you get "Werner didn't care much for their actions toward him, " from?

Serena Nordstrup

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Apr 9, 2013, 7:41:40 AM4/9/13
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On Apr 9, 12:41 am, TJ <thetroublewitht...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > At least the category "new age" appears to exist...
>
> The "category" "easter bunny" appears to exist as well, so what?

The category "new age" has become (thanks to your endorsement, if for
no other reason more than some flash-in-the-pan alleged invention of
Caligari's.

Perhaps the phrase "new age" may even have some merit/usefulness...

> > How do the films you list rate on well-accepted watchability indexes?
>
> They all rate 42+

Wow. All the same!

On how many different indices?

Serena Nordstrup

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Apr 9, 2013, 7:49:56 AM4/9/13
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On Apr 9, 8:18 am, TJ <thetroublewitht...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Refreshingly one-sided or refreshingly simplistick?
>
> Refreshingly unique.
>
> The film did not need to recycle and repeat for the millionth time all the old hearsay garbage you and your small but loud true believer group, have been spouting for 30+ years now.

And you think that makes it unique? - Hardly. Just think, John F
Kennedy's presidential inauguration did not need to recycle and repeat
for the millionth time all the allegedly old alleged hearsay alleged
garbage I and my allegedly small but allegedly loud alleged true
believer group have allegedly spouted for 30+ years now.

> You and Caligari have no problem being broken records on the internet but the rest of the world has better things to do. Maybe you need to hire Rick Ross for some expensive exit counselling?  You appear to have become trapped in a cult like loop where there is no thinking just parroting some old tape you blindly believe?
>
> i...@rickross.comhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exit_counseling

Leaving aside the ad-hominem smears, where precisely have I and
Caligari previously "parroted" the question "Refreshingly one-sided or
refreshingly simplistick?"

Serena Nordstrup

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Apr 9, 2013, 7:57:12 AM4/9/13
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On Apr 9, 10:06 am, TJ <thetroublewitht...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > The Master
>
> >    U.S. Domestic Total Est. Tickets: 2,064,100 - came out last year,
>
> > but not bad.  http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=themaster.htm&adjust_yr=1&p=.htm
>
> >    Critic rating:  86% positive
>
> >    Awards:
>
> >       - Academy Awards  nominated for Best Performance by an Actor in
>
> > a Leading Role, Best Performance by an Actor in a Supporting Role,
>
> > Best Performance by an Actress in a Supporting Role
>
> >      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Master_(2012_film)#Accolades
>
> if you go to the extreme anti-scientology  websites populated by anonymous guy fawks mask wearing geniuses  you will see that the true believers there think "The Master" was a failure because it did not promote their extreme lopsided hateful point of views on Scientology just so.

So?

> They wanted it to be a scathing anti-scientlogy film much like the critics at alt.fan.landmark think Transformation was obligated to be an anti-Erhard film or of course it was a "puff piece", "an infomercial"  etc blah blah blah.  As Nordstrop put it: "Refreshingly one-sided or refreshingly simplistick".

Tell us more of this Nordstrop - I don't know her/his work. Does it in
some way advocate totalism?

> Everyone must agree with you true believers or they are uninformed apologists who do not have a clue.

Even Tibetan monks?

> How convenient and how blatantly culty.

So blatant it become unapparent...

TJ

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Apr 9, 2013, 8:00:42 AM4/9/13
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> Tell us more of this Nordstrop - I don't know her/his work. Does it in some way advocate totalism?


Look in the mirror bro. And then go piss up a rope.

Serena Nordstrup

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Apr 10, 2013, 4:47:13 AM4/10/13
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On Apr 10, 12:00 am, TJ <thetroublewitht...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Tell us more of this Nordstrop - I don't know her/his work. Does it in some way advocate totalism?
>
> Look in the mirror bro. And then go piss up a rope.

In that order: yes, sir!

Now, tell us more of this Nordstrop - I don't know her/his work. Does

TJ

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Apr 10, 2013, 9:25:12 AM4/10/13
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> In that order: yes, sir!

well done nordstrop

> Now, tell us more of this Nordstrop - I don't know her/his work. Does it in some way advocate totalism?

ok now go back to up rope pissing and the mirror work

Serena Nordstrup

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Apr 11, 2013, 4:28:33 AM4/11/13
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Yet I feel none the wiser. You've not told us more of this Nordstrop
or of any ~relationship~ with totalism ...

TJ

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Apr 11, 2013, 9:04:35 AM4/11/13
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> Yet I feel none the wiser.

that is how it is with you Nordstrop

>You've not told us more of this Nordstrop or of any ~relationship~ with totalism ...

Your self interested repetitive gobbledygook Nordstropisms always winds up here bro, and rarely lead to any kind of constructive (for others) so called "discussion". You ever notice that?

Serena Nordstrup

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Apr 12, 2013, 2:44:18 AM4/12/13
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On Apr 12, 1:04 am, TJ <thetroublewitht...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Yet I feel none the wiser.
>
> that is how it is with you Nordstrop

Ah. I might investigate that ~it is~ some day.

> >You've not told us more of this Nordstrop or of any ~relationship~ with totalism ...
>
> Your self interested repetitive gobbledygook Nordstropisms always winds up here bro,

Not having the great interest in myself evidenced by some others, I
can sometimes miss out on detecting self-interest... And I've never
read anything written by this "Nordstrop" character. Where can I find
that stuff?

> and rarely lead to any kind of constructive (for others) so called "discussion". You ever notice that?

I observe patterns of inability or refusal to answer simple questions.
But back to the point at hand: you've not told us more of this
Nordstrop or of any ~relationship~ with totalism ...

Simpatice
Serena

TJ

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Apr 12, 2013, 1:22:33 PM4/12/13
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> But back to the point at hand: you've not told us more of this
>
> Nordstrop or of any ~relationship~ with totalism ...
>
>
>
> Simpatice
>
> Serena

Nordstrop is my own personal version of Nordstup.....just messing with you you bro ;) Was that really so hard for you to figure out?

As for "~relationship~ with totalism ", you best go piss up the proverbial rope about that one. Or not. No pressure.

Serena Nordstrup

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Apr 13, 2013, 2:46:49 AM4/13/13
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On Apr 13, 5:22 am, TJ <thetroublewitht...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > But back to the point at hand: you've not told us more of this
>
> > Nordstrop or of any ~relationship~ with totalism ...
>
> > Simpatice
>
> > Serena
>
> Nordstrop is my own personal version of Nordstup.....

Nordstup? -- Sorry, my command of Norwegian doesn't extend to
"Nordstup".

> just messing with you you bro ;)

Does this mean that we cannot rely on your ~word~ ?

> Was that really so hard for you to figure out?

"Nordstrop" ... "Nordstup" -- you have me confused more than ever...

> As for "~relationship~ with totalism ", you best go piss up the proverbial rope about that one. Or not. No pressure.

By-passing the rope-pissing on this occasion, I find you wrote: "[...]
the critics at alt.fan.landmark think Transformation was obligated to
be an anti-Erhard film or of course it was a "puff piece", "an
infomercial" etc blah blah blah. As Nordstrop put it: "Refreshingly
one-sided or refreshingly simplistick". Everyone must agree with you
true believers or they are uninformed apologists who do not have a
clue."

Hence my question, which I now re-pose: Does the work of this
mysterious Nordstrop/Nordstup in some way advocate totalism?

Simpatice
Serena

TJ

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Apr 13, 2013, 8:14:16 AM4/13/13
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> Nordstup? -- Sorry, my command of Norwegian doesn't extend to "Nordstup".


Just suck it bro. or "N-o-r-d-s-t-r-u-p" as you call yourself.


> > just messing with you you bro ;)
>
>
>
> Does this mean that we cannot rely on your ~word~ ?

Who is this "we" you speak of bro? And which "word" are you asking about dude? All the words I use are in the dictionary. Do you "rely" in the words in the english language? If yes then yes if no then no, if sometimes yes and sometimes no than sometimes yes and sometimes no.

> "Nordstrop" ... "Nordstup" -- you have me confused more than ever...

"N-o-r-d-s-t-r-u-p", does that help? Or does your confusion run deeper?


> By-passing the rope-pissing on this occasion, I find you wrote: "[...] the critics at alt.fan.landmark think Transformation was obligated to be an anti-Erhard film or of course it was a "puff piece", "an infomercial" etc blah blah blah. As Nordstrop put it: "Refreshingly one-sided or refreshingly simplistick". Everyone must agree with you true believers or they are uninformed apologists who do not have a clue." Hence my question, which I now re-pose: Does the work of this mysterious Nordstrop/Nordstup in some way advocate totalism?

> Simpatice
>
> Serena


Now that we have cleared that up and established that Nordstrop/Nordstup is really N-o-r-d-s-t-r-u-p, you tell me. Or not, no pressure.

Serena Nordstrup

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On Apr 14, 12:14 am, TJ <thetroublewitht...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Nordstup? -- Sorry, my command of Norwegian doesn't extend to "Nordstup".
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> Just suck it bro. or "N-o-r-d-s-t-r-u-p" as you call yourself.
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> > > just messing with you you bro ;)
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> > Does this mean that we cannot rely on your ~word~ ?
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> Who is this "we" you speak of bro?  And which  "word" are you asking about dude? All the words I use are in the dictionary.  Do you "rely" in the words in the english language? If yes then yes if no then no, if sometimes yes and sometimes no than sometimes yes and sometimes no.

You reveal the hollowness of rosenbergist jargon (~word~) so
thoroughly!

> > "Nordstrop" ... "Nordstup" -- you have me confused more than ever...
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>  "N-o-r-d-s-t-r-u-p", does that help? Or does your confusion run deeper?

Much deeper. You have an impression of a an ~interperetation~ of the
identity of the persona(s) of Nordstrop/Nordstup/Nordstrop. Does this
have some connection with a discussion-group about so-called
~landmark~ so-called ~education~? If so, how?

> > By-passing the rope-pissing on this occasion, I find you wrote: "[...]  the critics at alt.fan.landmark think Transformation was obligated to be an anti-Erhard film or of course it was a "puff piece", "an infomercial"  etc blah blah blah. As Nordstrop put it: "Refreshingly one-sided or refreshingly simplistick". Everyone must agree with you true believers or they are uninformed apologists who do not have a clue." Hence my question, which I now re-pose: Does the work of this mysterious Nordstrop/Nordstup  in some way advocate totalism?
> > Simpatice
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> > Serena
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> Now that  we have cleared that up and established that Nordstrop/Nordstup is really N-o-r-d-s-t-r-u-p, you tell me. Or not, no pressure.

I don't see any advocacy of totalism, but you appeared to make the
suggestion: '[...]  the critics at alt.fan.landmark think
Transformation was obligated to be an anti-Erhard film or of course it
was a "puff piece", "an infomercial"  etc blah blah blah. As Nordstrop
put it: "Refreshingly one-sided or refreshingly simplistick". Everyone
must agree with you true believers or they are uninformed apologists
who do not have a clue.' Hence my question directed to yourself: Does
the work of Nordstrop/Nordstup/Nordstrup  in some way advocate
totalism?

Simpatice
Serena
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