May I suggest something,

[Caligari]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1f8w68mdynA

[tubby]

On Mar 28, 12:08 pm, Caligari <enric.me...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1f8w68mdynA

Nuh why does everything have to be so violent?????
Can't we just enjoy clever dialogue and ordinary human foibles.
Aren't they bad enough???

Cheers

[bentot]

On Thu, 28 Mar 2013 00:30:04 -0700 (PDT), tubby <bton...@gmail.com>
wrote:

+1 ;-)

[Caligari]

What's your favorite movie of the year (or last year)?

;)

[tubby]

Didn't see that many movies so can't say I have any favorites although
I do like
foreign films that are often on late at night on our local TV.

Saw Commmediane Ruby Wax tonight at the Comedy Festival here in
Melbourne talking
about depression. Was a little disappointed with her performance
however gave her 100%
for trying to make Depression as an acceptable topic by being more
open and informed about its potential.

http://www.ted.com/talks/ruby_wax_what_s_so_funny_about_mental_illness.html


Cheers Bruno

[thetroubl...@gmail.com]

"Breaking Bad" was a favourite this last year. Even though it is built with the usual cliches and drawn out soap opera TV format , it still had more rewards and surprises then most movies.

[Caligari]

> http://www.ted.com/talks/ruby_wax_what_s_so_funny_about_mental_illnes...
>
> Cheers Bruno

My favorites from last year and Oscar winners are,

Silver Lining Playbook
The Life of Pi
Argo
Zero Dark Thirty

in that order.

;)

[bentot]

I liked:

Argo
Zero Dark Thirty

bentot

[patrick]

On Wednesday, March 27, 2013 8:08:32 PM UTC-5, Caligari wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1f8w68mdynA

today i am going to see G I Joe.

[TJ]

"Zero Dark Thirty" = shiny, state of the art cameras and lighting crafted, high adrenaline REVENGE porn.

I would very much like to see an Al-Qaeda's Hollywood'ed version of "Zero Dark Thirty", filmed from the point of view of Al-Qaeda's choosing, starring all the same actors. Now that would be a pair of films that together might shed some light on what it means to be human.

[Caligari]

On Mar 31, 8:43 am, TJ <thetroublewitht...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Zero Dark Thirty" = shiny, state of the art cameras and lighting crafted, high adrenaline REVENGE porn.
>
> I would very much like to  see an Al-Qaeda's Hollywood'ed version of "Zero Dark Thirty", filmed from the point of view of Al-Qaeda's choosing, starring all the same actors. Now that would be a pair of films that together might shed some light on what it means to be human.

On a double bill with a Nazi version of "Downfall",

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downfall_(film)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFG9a1NgfZA

[TJ]

> On a double bill with a Nazi version of "Downfall",
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downfall_(film)
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFG9a1NgfZA

Yes, a "Nazi" version of "Downfall" is indeed missing. The so called "loser" of the war would never get to make a big Hollywood movie sympathetic to their point of view. If Germany won the war we would have lots of them, and of course, no "Saving Private Ryans"

[Tex]

Argo
Lincoln
Zero Dark Thirty (Not a feel good movie!!!!)

OK, now every body repeat after me.

Argo.....etc. 8>)

[TJ]

> Zero Dark Thirty (Not a feel good movie!!!!)

Revenge dramas are very much a feel good experience for humans given we celebrate revenge the way that we do. The Oscars should have a revenge movie category. "And the Oscar for for the best film promoting and glorifying humans taking revenge on other humans goes to ......"

Dwayne Johnson in "Faster" was the best revenge film of the last 5 years IMO.

alt.fan.landmark quickly became alt.fan.revenge did it not? "I do not like your company nor your activities so I am going to use the www to try and harm you and your activity."

What a divine creature humans are :-)

[Tex]

OK, didn't make me feel good. :)
It was an amazing movie.
Left me feeling badly about the state of humanity, though.

[TJ]

> OK, didn't make me feel good. :)
>
> It was an amazing movie.
>
> Left me feeling badly about the state of humanity, though.

The spectrum of "feel good" can include, feeling good about the sweet feeling of feeling badly for others, feeling exhilaration and glee from seeing special cool silent super powered helicopters delivering cool navy seal assassins and little brown unarmed men who deserve getting killed getting killed by cool navy seal assassins IMO.

[Caligari]

Is there something you'd like to share?

;)

[TJ]

> Is there something you'd like to share?
>
>
>
> ;)

I shared exactly what I wanted to share. Thanks.

[Caligari]

<clap> <clap>

[TJ]

> <clap> <clap>

In movies and in life, humans appear to be addicted to "revenge".

Take your own activities for example, no mistaking your revenge agenda or the vengeful intent on your part, in your quarter century of internet involvement in the est, Erhard and landmark topic. You perceive that you were mistreated or 'done to' by est and now you are going to get "them" back. It is what thoughtless humans coasting on autopilot do for eternity.

[Caligari]

Wow, are you insightful and knowledgeable of people you've never met
-- a rare species on the web. No story here.

Tell me about the internet I was supposedly on in 1988?

[TJ]

> Wow, are you insightful and knowledgeable of people you've never met

Your revenge internet postings on this topic and affiliation with Rick Ross speak for themselves Mr. Wow.

"Ellen" did not participate in est nor Landmark programs nor met Erhard and yet you never said "Wow, are you insightful and knowledgeable of people you've never met" , why is that? Oh right, people like "Ellen" and anyone taking revenge on the people you perceive as having mistreated you get a pass from you. Of course.

> -- a rare species on the web. No story here.

"Story" or not it does not mean it is not accurate to say that what you are up to is revenge. You simply cannot deny that that is what drove and drives your accumulative internet activities on this topic.

> Tell me about the internet I was supposedly on in 1988?

Whenever you started your revenge, feel free to correct on the exact date. Or not.

[Caligari]

ArgoF*ckYourself bullshitter.

[Tex]

LOL!!!!
I was waiting for that.
So great when Alan Arkin said it early in the movie.
This was almost as funny.

[Serena Nordstrup]

On Apr 6, 10:50 am, TJ <thetroublewitht...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Wow, are you insightful and knowledgeable of people you've never met
>
> Your revenge internet postings on this topic and affiliation with Rick Ross speak for themselves Mr. Wow.

Coming soon: a Wikipedia page intitled "List of people allegedly
affiliated with Rick Ross".

> "Ellen" did not participate in est nor Landmark programs nor met Erhard and yet you never said "Wow, are you insightful and knowledgeable of people you've never met" , why is that?  Oh right, people like "Ellen" and anyone taking revenge on the people you perceive as having mistreated you get a pass from you. Of course.

Only participants in rosenbergist indoctrination-camps who display
insight and knowledge get classified as "insightful and
knowledgeable". In fact, the ~distinction~ "insightful and
knowledgeable" did not exist prior to the emergence of rosenbergism.
Pace
http://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=insightful+and+knowledgeable&year_start=1950&year_end=1970&corpus=15&smoothing=3&share=

> > -- a rare species on the web.  No story here.
>
> "Story" or not it does not mean it is not accurate to say that what you are up to is revenge. You simply cannot deny that that is what drove and drives  your accumulative internet activities on this topic.
>
> > Tell me about the internet I was supposedly on in 1988?
>
> Whenever you started your revenge, feel free to correct on the exact date. Or not.

The 1988-internet claim scrubbed for lack of evidence. So it goes.

[Serena Nordstrup]

On Apr 6, 8:33 am, TJ <thetroublewitht...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  > <clap> <clap>
>
> In movies and in life, humans appear to be  addicted to "revenge".
>
> Take your own activities for example, no mistaking your revenge agenda or the vengeful intent on your part,

Except where someone mistakes such alleged agenda for intelligent/
speculative comment...

[TJ]

> Except where someone mistakes such alleged agenda for intelligent/ speculative comment...

if one is unfamiliar with the concept of revenge and what revenge means and revenge looks like when acted out, Yes Nordstrop, one might wind up leaving the concept of revenge out of a discussion altogether.

But here, allow me to help you out:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/revenge
 

re·venge [ri-venj] Show IPA verb, re·venged, re·veng·ing, noun

1. to exact punishment or expiation for a wrong on behalf of, especially in a resentful or vindictive spirit: He revenged his murdered brother.

2. to take vengeance for; inflict punishment for; avenge: He revenged his brother's murder. verb (used without object)

3. to take revenge.

4. the act of revenging; retaliation for injuries or wrongs; vengeance.

5. something done in vengeance.

6. the desire to revenge; vindictiveness.

7. an opportunity to retaliate or gain satisfaction.

[Caligari]

Arkin does it with flair and zest ;)

-- Caligari

[TJ]

> Arkin does it with flair and zest ;)
>
>
>
> -- Caligari

Are you above and beyond wanting "revenge" Caligari? it is interesting (to me) that "revenge" is such a large part of human activities but individuals and countries rarely admit to it or use that word to describe themselves or their activities. It is as if you want to get revenge but you don't want people to know that you are that simple and basic a creature, but rather desire to be viewed as some complex intelligent force acting on behalf of the common good or something like that.... but "revenge? Me? Never!!!!!!"

[Serena Nordstrup]

On Apr 8, 6:27 am, TJ <thetroublewitht...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Arkin does it with flair and zest ;)
>
> >   -- Caligari
>
> Are you above and beyond wanting "revenge" Caligari? it is interesting (to me) that "revenge" is such a large part of  human activities

... or so you claim...

[Serena Nordstrup]

On Apr 8, 12:59 am, TJ <thetroublewitht...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Except where someone mistakes such alleged agenda for intelligent/ speculative comment...
>
> if one is unfamiliar with the concept of revenge and what revenge means and revenge looks like when acted out, Yes Nordstrop, one might wind up leaving the concept of revenge  out of a discussion altogether.

If one has never encountered the idea that rape has to do with
~power~ (not sex), one might think that rape had something to do with
sexual activity and leave opportunism out of a discussion entirely.

> But here, allow me to help you out:
>
> http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/revenge
>
>
> re·venge  [ri-venj]  Show IPA verb, re·venged, re·veng·ing, noun
>
> 1. to exact punishment or expiation for a wrong on behalf of, especially in a resentful or vindictive spirit: He revenged his murdered brother.
>
> 2. to take vengeance for; inflict punishment for; avenge: He revenged his brother's murder. verb (used without object)
>
> 3. to take revenge.
>
> 4. the act of revenging; retaliation for injuries or wrongs; vengeance.
>
> 5. something done in vengeance.
>
> 6. the desire to revenge; vindictiveness.
>
> 7. an opportunity to retaliate or gain satisfaction.

Hmm: it appears "revenge" exists as a concept. Just like manticores.

[TJ]

> Hmm: it appears "revenge" exists as a concept. Just like manticores.

You might be fascinated with yourself and the replies you come up with in alt.fan.landmark but I have no clue what you are talking about, zilch.

[TJ]

> If one has never encountered the idea that rape has to do with ~power~ (not sex), one might think that rape had something to do with sexual activity and leave opportunism out of a discussion entirely.

"Rape"? Why are you talking about "rape" bro?

[Serena Nordstrup]

On Apr 9, 12:06 am, TJ <thetroublewitht...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hmm: it appears "revenge" exists as a concept.  Just like manticores.
>
> You might be fascinated with yourself and the replies you come up with in alt.fan.landmark but I have no clue what you are talking about, zilch.

Leaving aside the personal obsessions, let's concentrate on
manticores.

[Serena Nordstrup]

On Apr 9, 1:17 am, TJ <thetroublewitht...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  > If one has never encountered the idea that rape has to do with ~power~  (not sex), one might think that rape had something to do with sexual activity and leave opportunism out of a discussion entirely.
>
> "Rape"? Why are you talking about "rape" bro?

Rather than talking about rape, we had a discussion about encountering
ideas and pronouncing reductive ~opinions~.