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HAPPYsamurai

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Dec 26, 2009, 4:26:48 PM12/26/09
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I know you choose to post here

and say me - i posted at the avtar forum version

and Eldon is chasing x scientologists here

http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/

there's a discussion link on the side bar


my question is a little hard to phrase - so knowing you are used to
Bruno - I shall walk around it - knowing your insight will suffice
anyway


I have little interest in interacting with scientologists as Eldon
does - tho i can extrapolate from the glimpses I have seen

and you have little desire to meet Dave the "highly qualified
consciousness explorer guide" on ACA

who makes Tom look like the most logical guy on the planet

[sorry Tom - didn't mean to Embarrass you]

why the distinction in our diversity ?


for some reason pyramid worshipers vs non pyramid dwellers come to
mind as lateral tangent - in relaltion to the background setting

Serena Nordstrup

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Dec 30, 2009, 3:43:26 AM12/30/09
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On Dec 27, 10:26 am, HAPPYsamurai <profstock...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> I know you choose to post here

I don't see where ~choice~ comes into it - either I post or I don't.
No need for that rosenbergist ~choice~ nonsense.

> and say me - i posted at the avtar forum version
>
> and Eldon is chasing x scientologists here
>
> http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/
>
> there's a discussion link on the side bar
>
> my question is a little hard to phrase - so knowing you are used to
> Bruno - I shall walk around it - knowing your insight will suffice
> anyway
>
> I have little interest in interacting with scientologists as Eldon
> does - tho i can extrapolate from the glimpses I have seen
>
> and you have little desire to meet Dave the "highly qualified
> consciousness explorer guide" on ACA

I have not ~experienced~ the gentleman first-hand...

> who makes Tom look like the most logical guy on the planet
>
> [sorry Tom - didn't mean to Embarrass you]
>
> why the distinction in our diversity ?

I suppose that we can face the Other with varying degrees of
toleration. At a personal level, we could ask the equivalent of
"would I like my daughter to marry X?"...

HAPPYsamurai

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Dec 31, 2009, 5:03:20 AM12/31/09
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why is it Harvard listens to werner's gibberish?

would oxford be as patient?


or others?

computeruser

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Dec 31, 2009, 9:46:23 AM12/31/09
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I would guess this person: MICHAEL C. JENSEN
[Jesse Isidor Straus Professor of Business Administration Emeritus,
Harvard Business School
Senior Advisor, The Monitor Group]; thinks Havard is the place for
this type of material.

He is the Havard staff person who also co-authored post of the white
papers found at:

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=920625
note the other Werner penned links to the right [People who downloaded
this paper also downloaded:]

Maybe Micheal Jensen is ~~enrolled~~ in the ~~possibility~~ or his
ethics were bought with a pay-off.

computeruser

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Dec 31, 2009, 9:51:28 AM12/31/09
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Michael Jensen

Michael Jensen is a Senior Advisor at Monitor. He is Jesse Isidor


Professor of Business Administration Emeritus, Harvard Business

School. In 1990, he was named "Scholar of the Year" by the Eastern
Finance Association and one of the "Year's 25 Most Fascinating
Business People" by Fortune magazine. His numerous books and articles
can be found at Harvard Business Review and Amazon.

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HAPPYsamurai

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Dec 31, 2009, 7:56:00 PM12/31/09
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this "new" integrity idea raises so many questions

like

how smart are the guys at harvard that they didn't already have some
understanding of a link between "honoring your word" and
"integrity" [either definition]

what was the "previous" definition of integrity re business - in the
harvard collectives understanding?

did they previous version have anything to do with the recession?

perhaps a version that goes BEYOND simply honoring ones word - may
have prevented the need for a bailout?

who do the guys at the TOP give their word to?


its a great topic starter for an "exploration" / "conversation"

HAPPYsamurai

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Dec 31, 2009, 8:25:08 PM12/31/09
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On 1 Jan, 03:51, computeruser <cyran...@juno.com> wrote:
>
> Monitor thought leaders support core disciplines: Strategy, Marketing
> and Pricing, Innovation and Product Development, Organization and
> Leadership, Economic Development, and Security. Here is a sample of
> our thought leaders:...

http://www.tomspencer.com.au/2009/11/16/consultants-highly-paid-scapegoats/

Tex

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Dec 31, 2009, 10:42:14 PM12/31/09
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On Dec 31, 7:56 pm, HAPPYsamurai <profstock...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 1 Jan, 03:46, computeruser <cyran...@juno.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 31, 5:03 am, HAPPYsamurai <profstock...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > why is it Harvard listens to werner's gibberish?
>
> > > would oxford be as patient?
>
> > > or others?
>
> > I would guess this person: MICHAEL C. JENSEN
> > [Jesse Isidor Straus Professor of Business Administration Emeritus,
> > Harvard Business School
> > Senior Advisor, The Monitor Group];  thinks Havard is the place for
> > this type of material.
>
> > He is the Havard staff person who also co-authored post of the white
> > papers found at:
>
> >http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=920625
> > note the other Werner penned links to the right [People who downloaded
> > this paper also downloaded:]
>
> > Maybe Micheal Jensen is ~~enrolled~~ in the ~~possibility~~ or his
> > ethics were bought with a pay-off.
>
> this "new" integrity idea raises so many questions
>
> like
>
> how smart are the guys at harvard that they didn't already have some
> understanding of a link between "honoring your word" and "integrity" [either definition]

"like"
They're waaay smarter than you, Hap.
Smart enough to understand the subject matter.
What on earth are you searching for, Hap???

The serious quetion???


"why the distinction in our diversity ?"

Did you ever get an answer? ;-)


>
> what was the "previous" definition of integrity re business - in the
> harvard collectives understanding?
>
> did they previous version have anything to do with the recession?
>
> perhaps a version that goes BEYOND simply honoring ones word - may
> have prevented the need for a bailout?
>
> who do the guys at the TOP give their word to?
>

> its a great topic starter for an "exploration" / "conversation"- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Serena Nordstrup

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Jan 2, 2010, 6:35:27 AM1/2/10
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On Dec 31 2009, 11:03 pm, HAPPYsamurai <profstock...@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:

> why is it Harvard listens to werner's gibberish?

An observation: Harvard has a staff of thousands, and you can expect a
few of them to have "exotick" interests.

> would oxford be as patient?
>
> or others?

Dunno. I think of Oxford as more theoretical...

HAPPYsamurai

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Jan 5, 2010, 5:23:50 PM1/5/10
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al la Schopenhauer versus Hegel ?

Serena Nordstrup

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Jan 6, 2010, 2:34:00 AM1/6/10
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Ummm...

Which one might one associate with a "business school"? Which
environment nourished philosophical pragmatism?

HAPPYsamurai

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Jan 7, 2010, 12:48:46 AM1/7/10
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On 6 Jan, 20:34, Serena Nordstrup <s_nordst...@my-deja.com> wrote:

>
> Which one might one associate with a "business school"? Which
> environment nourished philosophical pragmatism?

I guess the one based on pragmatism would have already worked out the
pro and cons of keeping one's word - without the need for werner's
reminder....

ironic really

http://www.whatsthedealaboutlandmark.com/forum_05.htm

http://www.landmarkeducation.com/landmark_forum_course_syllabus.jsp

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