REPOST: Re: Mancini and Polygamy
peal nora c
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jgke...@cris.com (james g. keegan jr.) writes:
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>On 5 Mar 1997 22:44:23 GMT, nora...@staff.uiuc.edu (peal nora c) wrote:
>: <5f8kun$q...@Masala.CC.UH.EDU> <Pine.SOL.3.91.970305092425....@rigel.infonex.com>
>:
>: Pure Silk <pure...@rigel.infonex.com> writes in alt.religion.mormon,talk.abortion,and alt.flame:
>:
>: [nobody cares, so I deleted it]
>i cared, so i restored it. seems like it was flame free and content filled.
Then what was it doing on alt*dot*flame, fool? And why did YOU
feel it appropriate to xpost a flame to alt.religion.mormon, eh?
Inappropriate xposting like that got you into trouble the last
time, Fuckhead. You don't have many providers who will have you
left. Better watch yourself.
>your obsessive jealousy of pure silk appears to have caused you to make a fool
>of yourself again.
Whenever she shows her flabby, old arse on alt*dot*flame
I'll be here to Spank it off again. Perhaps you should
warn the dear GrannyStinkster.
>whatever else could have caused you to post into alt.language.poetry.pure-silk
>but your uncontrollable hatred and jealousy of someone who is far, far more
>liked and respected than you?
What better to post into it than poetry about her? Hmmmmmmmm?
You wouldn't believe the fan mail I got for my followup to
her poorly written snippet dedicated to you from the resident
writers of the other groups she had posted it in. Each one
thanking me for mocking her third-grade level drivel.
To put it simply, her "poetry" sucks. And, as Chief Engineer
of alt*dot*flame's Poetry, Prose, & Pap Disposal Department
(Unit 3) it's my job to dispose of it in the manner best suited
to me.
So there.
The best part of all, though, was the trouble she got herself
into for forging a cancellation of my followup, heh. Did she
do it on your advice?
[snip restoration]
>: Stinky Stank Stunk
>: Her prose is naught but bunk
>: There's nothing worse than reading the verse
>: of Stinky Stank Stunk
>:
>: BTW, it's a pity that trying to defend your sorry
>: old arse wore Koputz out so much that he had to
>: "retire" from usenet. He was such an easy Spank.
Hobble off, OldFuck. Or I'll Spank you again too.
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jgke...@cris.com (james g. keegan jr.) writes:
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>On 6 Mar 1997 23:08:56 GMT, nora...@staff.uiuc.edu (peal nora c) wrote:
>: jgke...@cris.com (james g. keegan jr.) writes:
>:
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>:
>: >On 5 Mar 1997 22:44:23 GMT, nora...@staff.uiuc.edu (peal nora c) wrote:
>:
>: >: <5f8kun$q...@Masala.CC.UH.EDU> <Pine.SOL.3.91.970305092425....@rigel.infonex.com>
>: >:
>: >: Pure Silk <pure...@rigel.infonex.com> writes in alt.religion.mormon,talk.abortion,and alt.flame:
>: >:
>: >: [nobody cares, so I deleted it]
>:
>: >i cared, so i restored it. seems like it was flame free and content filled.
>:
>: Then what was it doing on alt*dot*flame, fool? :
>why would you ask me someone else's reasons for where they posted?
Didn't she tell you when she begged you to defend her?
Curious...
>my guess it was as a courtesy since it's precedessor was posted to
>flame.
She should have known better.
>i see your anger and hatred has again caused you to make a fool of yourself.
You put the batteries back into the parrot again,
didn't you?
>: And why did YOU
>: feel it appropriate to xpost a flame to alt.religion.mormon, eh?
>are you now asserting that posts on mormon theology are not
>appropriate to a mormon newsgroup, ms. peal?
Stinky's post had already been posted to alt.religion.mormon.
My followup, which had NOTHING to do with mormon theology
was restricted to flame groups. You then xposted that flame
back into an inappropriate group.
You haven't overcome that problem, evidently.
>look, if you're drugged,
Which I am not.
>i'll bed the readers of alt.religion.mormon will forgive you if you explain
>what happened and apologize.
You're the only one xposting flames there, and doing so
deliberately. It looks to me as though you're the one
that owes that group an apology.
>: Inappropriate xposting like that got you into trouble the last
>: time, Fuckhead. You don't have many providers who will have you
>: left. Better watch yourself.
>your raving seem a bit disconnected, ms. peal.
There's nothing disconnected about the fact that your
inappropriate xposting to misc.kids got you into trouble
with Netcom. How do you like YOUR new provider, btw?
<chuckle>
>you seem a bit out of
>control and in some difficulty as to expressing what you mean.
In your dreams, SemenSpleen.
>: >your obsessive jealousy of pure silk appears to have caused you to make a fool
>: >of yourself again.
>:
>: Whenever she shows her flabby, old arse on alt*dot*flame
>: I'll be here to Spank it off again. Perhaps you should
>: warn the dear GrannyStinkster.
>your obsessive jealousy of pure silk appears to have caused you to make a fool
>of yourself yet again.
BANG! So much for that parrot.
>: >whatever else could have caused you to post into alt.language.poetry.pure-silk
>: >but your uncontrollable hatred and jealousy of someone who is far, far more
>: >liked and respected than you?
>:
>: You wouldn't believe the fan mail I got for my followup to
>: her poorly written snippet dedicated to you from the resident
>: writers of the other groups she had posted it in. Each one
>: thanking me for mocking her third-grade level drivel.
>:
>: To put it simply, her "poetry" sucks.
>your obsessive jealousy of pure silk appears to have caused you to make a fool
>of yourself yet again.
Shit. It's got a sibling. I'll have to hunt up some more
shot.
>: The best part of all, though, was the trouble she got herself
>: into for forging a cancellation of my followup, heh.
>what a horrid claim!!! i'm not at all surprised that you offered no evidence
>to support it.
>you only made that claim as an expression of your obsessive jealousy of
>pure silk, didn't you?
Not at all. Take a look at the cancel she forged.
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From: nora...@staff.uiuc.edu (peal nora c)
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Now, barring some haphazard breach of security which I doubt,
we're left with three possibilities:
1) It's Pure Silk.
2) It's someone who also accesses Pacific Bell Internet from
the San Diego area.
3) It's someone who's taking the trouble to dial the Pacbell
San Diego POP long-distance.
BTW, how does she like HER new provider? [snicker]
>were you drugged when you posted?
Nope. What's your excuse?
>: Did she do it on your advice?
>:
>: [snip restoration]
Hmmmmmmmm. No answer. Poor Stinky, it's only karma
that your "assistence" would get *her* into trouble
this time. OhTooBad.
>really nora, don't you think readers want to see the text you have been
>lying about?
I've made no lie.
Interesting enough, you snipped my little ditty about
Pure Stink yet still xposted your response to her poetry
group.
Just to keep this appropriate for alt.language.poetry.pure-silk...
Shame on Stinky, and on you, too
For exposing your lack of brains
In front of the very audience
Who've seen it again and again.
You repeat nonsensical assertions
And refuse to face the facts.
The one thing you have that's certain
Is the laughter behind your backs.
Now Keegan (it seems) is enamoured
Of the "prose" that Stinky spews
Which lacks any sense of cadence
Or form when she is through.
"A poem!" she thinks when words "sound the same"
And you then support that drool!
No wonder at all that you earned the name
Of "Fuckhead" you silly, old fool.
peal nora c
Stan Kalisch III
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Careful, Nora; this is what *I* wrote to you. Someone meaner would pitch
a real stink about something like this. Under copyright law, I actually
have the right to cancel this post because you're violating my copyright.
Ironically, I reposted the article after it was cancelled by someone else,
instead...
So be careful...
> Now, barring some haphazard breach of security which I doubt,
> we're left with three possibilities:
>
> 1) It's Pure Silk.
>
> 2) It's someone who also accesses Pacific Bell Internet from
> the San Diego area.
>
> 3) It's someone who's taking the trouble to dial the Pacbell
> San Diego POP long-distance.
Now that I--em--have the floor--let me note that both sides in this
flamefest are being unfair to each other; you've said some pretty
ridiculous things.
And to whoever is sending out these cancels, I'd be damn careful if I were
you. There are new laws in a number of states that might just make you
wind up in court. You think I'm bluffing?--your loss...
And Netcom, if given a court order, has to disclose any information they
have on file about you.
And I'm watching you.
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peal nora c
Stan Kalisch III <sjk...@crl.com> writes:
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>Careful, Nora; this is what *I* wrote to you. Someone meaner would pitch
>a real stink about something like this. Under copyright law, I actually
>have the right to cancel this post because you're violating my copyright.
Sorry, Stan - at the time I didn't feel I had the right
to get you publically involved in my current battle with
keegan and was prepared to accept any flames resulting
from your opinion myself.
My sincere apologies.
>Ironically, I reposted the article after it was cancelled by someone else,
>instead...
>So be careful...
[Nora hangs her head in sorrow and shame]
Yes, sir.
>> Now, barring some haphazard breach of security which I doubt,
>> we're left with three possibilities:
>>
>> 1) It's Pure Silk.
>>
>> 2) It's someone who also accesses Pacific Bell Internet from
>> the San Diego area.
>>
>> 3) It's someone who's taking the trouble to dial the Pacbell
>> San Diego POP long-distance.
>Now that I--em--have the floor--let me note that both sides in this
>flamefest are being unfair to each other; you've said some pretty
>ridiculous things.
Such as?
Suzanne Demitrio
In article <5g6kp6$q...@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>,
peal nora c <nora...@staff.uiuc.edu> wrote:
>Stan Kalisch III <sjk...@crl.com> writes:
>
>>Careful, Nora; this is what *I* wrote to you. Someone meaner would pitch
>>a real stink about something like this. Under copyright law, I actually
>>have the right to cancel this post because you're violating my copyright.
>
>Sorry, Stan - at the time I didn't feel I had the right
>to get you publically involved in my current battle with
>keegan and was prepared to accept any flames resulting
>from your opinion myself.
And to misrepresent it.
In article <5g1bs6$q...@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, Nora Peal
<nora...@staff.uiuc.edu> wrote: "I am convinced that
Pure Silk is the one who forged me, as are the sysadmins
on news.admin.net-abuse.usenet."
Now that Kalish has taken credit for his own text, we can
see that he was "convinced" of no such thing.
Is he the only sysadmin you were lying about, Nora, or were
there others too?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Suzanne Lucia Demitrio demi...@netcom.com
Linda Gonzalez
<5g6kp6$q...@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Organization: Nether.Net -- Public access
Linux system Distribution:
peal nora c (nora...@staff.uiuc.edu) wrote:
: Stan Kalisch III <sjk...@crl.com> writes:
: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
: >Careful, Nora; this is what *I* wrote to you. Someone meaner would pitch
: >a real stink about something like this. Under copyright law, I actually
: >have the right to cancel this post because you're violating my copyright.
: Sorry, Stan - at the time I didn't feel I had the right
: to get you publically involved in my current battle with
: keegan and was prepared to accept any flames resulting
: from your opinion myself.
: My sincere apologies.
: >Ironically, I reposted the article after it was cancelled by someone else,
: >instead...
: >So be careful...
: [Nora hangs her head in sorrow and shame]
: Yes, sir.
: >> Now, barring some haphazard breach of security which I doubt,
: >> we're left with three possibilities:
: >>
: >> 1) It's Pure Silk.
: >>
: >> 2) It's someone who also accesses Pacific Bell Internet from
: >> the San Diego area.
: >>
: >> 3) It's someone who's taking the trouble to dial the Pacbell
: >> San Diego POP long-distance.
: >Now that I--em--have the floor--let me note that both sides in this
: >flamefest are being unfair to each other; you've said some pretty
: >ridiculous things.
: Such as?
: >And to whoever is sending out these cancels, I'd be damn careful if I were
: >you. There are new laws in a number of states that might just make you
: >wind up in court. You think I'm bluffing?--your loss...
: >And Netcom, if given a court order, has to disclose any information they
: >have on file about you.
: >And I'm watching you.
Nora, It would be pretty decent of you if you would offer an apology to
me
for your rush to judgment and false allegations against me.
Linda
lin...@phish.nether.net
pure...@pacbell.net
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/1574
peal nora c
lin...@phish.nether.net (Linda Gonzalez) writes:
> <5g6kp6$q...@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Organization: Nether.Net -- Public access
>Linux system Distribution:
>Nora, It would be pretty decent of you if you would offer an apology to
>me
>for your rush to judgment and false allegations against me.
Linda, if you had ever once acted decently towards me, and if
I wasn't still convinced that you forged the cancellation of
my post, I might be tempted. And if it turns out that I'm
wrong, and that you or one of your agents didn't do it, I will.
As it stands I see only the stinkheap that falsely accused me
of child abuse and adultery without ever offering an apology
(can we say hypocrite?), and an admitted forger of my husband's
posts to get back at me in the past for besting you at flaming.
Why shouldn't I believe that you're just repeating history?
And those are the *nicest* things I can find to say about you.
Think about it.
>--
Nora Peal <npeal@help.i'm.surrounded.by.corn>
"I'm so sweet you could eat my brains for jam!"
(So it's a _Legend_ rip off. Fuck you.)
>--
Suzanne Demitrio
In article <5g82fd$f...@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>,
peal nora c <nora...@staff.uiuc.edu> wrote:
>lin...@phish.nether.net (Linda Gonzalez) writes:
>
>>Nora, It would be pretty decent of you if you would offer an apology to
>>me for your rush to judgment and false allegations against me.
>
>Linda, if you had ever once acted decently towards me, and if
>I wasn't still convinced that you forged the cancellation of
>my post,
Now only you are "convinced"? A few days ago you claimed
that the sysadmins on news.admin.net-abuse.usenet were
"convinced" of that too.
But you were lying then and you knew it. Stan Kalisch's
text exposes you.
Are now you proceeding on the theory that half a lie is better
than none?
james g. keegan jr.
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On Thu, 13 Mar 1997 13:42:08 GMT, demi...@netcom.com (Suzanne Demitrio)
wrote:
: In article <5g82fd$f...@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>,
: peal nora c <nora...@staff.uiuc.edu> wrote:
: >lin...@phish.nether.net (Linda Gonzalez) writes:
: >
: >>Nora, It would be pretty decent of you if you would offer an apology to
: >>me for your rush to judgment and false allegations against me.
: >
: >Linda, if you had ever once acted decently towards me, and if
: >I wasn't still convinced that you forged the cancellation of
: >my post,
:
: Now only you are "convinced"? A few days ago you claimed
: that the sysadmins on news.admin.net-abuse.usenet were
: "convinced" of that too.
:
: But you were lying then and you knew it. Stan Kalisch's
: text exposes you.
:
: Are now you proceeding on the theory that half a lie is better
: than none?
it doesn't appear that nora acts on a theory.
she made an accusation based, so it appears, on her hatred of
and obsession with pure silk. then she lied to support her claim.
then her lie in support of her claim was exposed. so now, she
leaves her unsupported claim stand because she thinks its
target hasn't treated her well!!!
poor nora. she is one sick pup, imo.
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puresilk
On 13 Mar 1997 05:14:21 GMT, nora...@staff.uiuc.edu (peal nora c)
wrote:
>lin...@phish.nether.net (Linda Gonzalez) writes:
>> <5g6kp6$q...@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Organization: Nether.Net -- Public access
>>Linux system Distribution:
>>Nora, It would be pretty decent of you if you would offer an apology to
>>me
>>for your rush to judgment and false allegations against me.
>Linda, if you had ever once acted decently towards me, and if
>I wasn't still convinced that you forged the cancellation of
>my post, I might be tempted. And if it turns out that I'm
>wrong, and that you or one of your agents didn't do it, I will.
Since when in the U.Sof A, is one guilty until proven innocent?
Nora, I have always have acted decently towards you, you were the one
who started the name calling and bigotry against women with your
misogynistic remarks. You were the one who exploited your own child on
usenet..
As far as the cancellations are concerned, I might say the same thing
about you, who's to say that *you* weren't behind some kind of a
conspiracy to make me look bad and lose my pacbell.acct? I *know*
that you hate me enough to do it Nora, and I don't believe anything is
below you. I wouldn't even be surprised if you enlisted the help of
Paul Zanca to help you out..after all he is an admitted forger.
~~~~~
If you still think that I had anything to do with these cancellations,
then by all means, either *prove* it with something concrete or shut
up and decently apologize.
You are starting to sound just like Mancini, and his "anonymous" staff
members..
As far as "forging" your husbands post... I never did any such thing!
I merely changed a couple of slight words, but the headers were left
intact.
Now if you would care to read pacbell's policy on forgery, please feel
free to do so, and you will see that I in fact, did no such thing.
Oh, incidentally, I did apologize to your husband for the
changes...ah!
but you conveniently did forget about that now, didn't you?
Fact is, I know how to apologize to people when I am wrong, something
*you* know nothing about...
>
>As it stands I see only the stinkheap that falsely accused me
>of child abuse and adultery without ever offering an apology
>(can we say hypocrite?), and an admitted forger of my husband's
>posts to get back at me in the past for besting you at flaming.
>Why shouldn't I believe that you're just repeating history?
Nora, if you want me to post the *proof* of your potential child
abuse, I will gladly do so *again*. I am sorry Ms. Peal, but I do not
believe a child is something to be trashed around with and exploited
on in the usenet newsgroups, and I do believe if you were so desperate
to flame somebody, you could of done it differently, instead of using
your 2 1/2 year old toddler. What kind of a mother teaches her young
child to use profanity when referring to another individual? Or brags
about what is going to happen when someday her child shows up at a
school with a machete and thermo-nuclear devise...
Not to mention you also *allowed* one of your net allies to FORGE
your son's name in the headers of a "fuckhead" cascade..would you like
me to repost?
Why should I offer an apology for posting the facts?
YOU have not posted any facts to back up *your* claims, have you?
As far as the adultery goes..well, you certainly didn't deny it, did
you? Oh don't whine about it..after all, you claim to know so much
about me and..ahem...my genital area, and you have never met me, have
you Nora??
odd thing,Nora,I purposely stayed off usenet for a whole month, not a
single post directed at you nor anyone else..well I did call into
pacbell once I believe but it was some trivial thing.
Yet you continued to flame me, and post untruths about me..none of
your posts to which I even responded..you just didn't let up..even
tho' I was not posting..This merely proved your strange obsessions of
me,and they certainly*are* very strange indeed...It also shows your
intense hatred and jealousy of me..It shows you to be the *pathetic*
loser you really are.
>And those are the *nicest* things I can find to say about you.
>Think about it.
Oh, so you think lies are *nice*?
Pure Silk
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/1574
pure...@pacbell.net
Stan Kalisch III
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On Wed, 12 Mar 1997, peal nora c wrote:
> Posted and emailed
"Me too"
> Stan Kalisch III <sjk...@crl.com> writes:
>
> >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
> >Careful, Nora; this is what *I* wrote to you. Someone meaner would pitch
> >a real stink about something like this. Under copyright law, I actually
> >have the right to cancel this post because you're violating my copyright.
>
> Sorry, Stan - at the time I didn't feel I had the right
> to get you publically involved in my current battle with
> keegan and was prepared to accept any flames resulting
> from your opinion myself.
>
> My sincere apologies.
>
> >Ironically, I reposted the article after it was cancelled by someone else,
> >instead...
>
> >So be careful...
>
> [Nora hangs her head in sorrow and shame]
>
> Yes, sir.
Just beware of net.kooks...
<...>
> >Now that I--em--have the floor--let me note that both sides in this
> >flamefest are being unfair to each other; you've said some pretty
> >ridiculous things.
>
> Such as?
Both have voiced their assumptions, assumptions, assumptions. And you
know what usually happens when we assume...
I'm speaking generally because I'm--ahem--holding out hope that people can
acknowledge their own assumptions at least in addition to attacking those
of others...
Stan
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