Scientology
Wood
would be happy to answer them as I am a trained Scientologist. You may
wish to have a look at the Church's official website at
http://www.scientology.org
Regards,
Caroline Wood
--
Caroline's web site - http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~cjwood
John's web site - http://myreligion.scientologist.net/johnwood
Rod Keller
: If anyone has any questions about John's religion, Scientology, I
: would be happy to answer them as I am a trained Scientologist. You may
: wish to have a look at the Church's official website at
: http://www.scientology.org
:
: Regards,
:
: Caroline Wood
I'd be happy to answer any questions as well. Another site worth looking
at is http://www.xenu.net
Find out why John Travolta has space cooties. (No kidding!!)
--
Rod Keller / rke...@voicenet.com / Irresponsible Publisher
Black Hat #1 / Expert of the Toilet / CWPD Mouthpiece / Killer Rod
The Lerma Apologist / Merchant of Chaos / Vision of Destruction
Bigot of Mystery / OSA Patsy / Quasi-Scieno / Mental Bully
Wood
What's your story then? Do you know anything about Scientology personally?
John Wood
Rod Keller wrote:
--
Rod Keller
: Rod,
:
: What's your story then? Do you know anything about Scientology personally?
Although I've never been a member, I certainly do know something about
Scientology personally. What's your story? What could you not-know about
Scientology? And how does knowing about Xenu affect your case?
Wood
never been a member? Which LRH books have you read for example?
John Wood
Rod Keller wrote:
--
Rod Keller
: Please answer my question first. What do you know about Scientology if you've
: never been a member? Which LRH books have you read for example?
I have read more than a dozen books by el-are-aich. In no particular
order:
Introduction to Scientology Ethics
Have You Lived Before This Life?
Understanding the E-Meter
History of Man
All About Radiation
Evolution of a Science
A New Slant on Life
Science of Survival
Creation of Human Ability
The Russian Brainwashing Manual
Now, on to my questions:
: > Although I've never been a member, I certainly do know something about
: > Scientology personally. What's your story? What could you not-know about
: > Scientology? And how does knowing about Xenu affect your case?
Bet you won't answer.
Wood
(ISBN
0-9648909-1-7) on the part psychiatry played in Nazi Germany and the holocaust
and on the influence psychiatrists had over Hitler (a psychiatric patient
himself), see http://www.cchr.org/mbh1.htm
"ŠAnti-CultŽ - www.users.wineasy.se/noname/" wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Jul 1999 17:46:54 +0100.
> In Message-ID: <37A3287D...@globalnet.co.uk>
> Wood <cjw...@globalnet.co.uk>.
> From: GXSN.
> Wrote on the subject: Re: Scientology:
>
> >Please answer my question first. What do you know about Scientology if you've
> >never been a member? Which LRH books have you read for example?
> >
> >John Wood
> >
> What do you know about nazis John, if you never was one? Stupid
> scientology question line John, and you know it.
>
> Is this realy you John, you did a poor job, and you never returned to the
> studio with the papers you promised.
>
> www.users.wineasy.se/noname/multimed/index.htm#25
>
> --
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> Wordclearing: Bigotry, blind zeal in favour of a creed, party, sect,
> or opinion.
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> THE TRUE FACE OF SCIENTOLOGY BIGOTRY
>
> I feel the "Church of Scientology's bigotry and religious
> intolerance" does not exist because the FZ has no religion with which
> to be intolerant. L Ron Hubbard developed the scientology religion.
> You and the FZ "tech finders" are no L Ron Hubbard. Confront and see
> the truth in that. LRH worked hard to give mankind a chance, He
> completed, and left it here so that now we just need to follow the
> well marked path. LRH truly wanted to help mankind. I have observed
> FZers and I find that quality truly lacking.
>
> Lurkmonster na...@noneya.com an active Scientologist, participating
> in the newsgroup alt.religion.scientology.
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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Wood
Need I say any more? Xenu, Shenu as far as I'm concerned. You can say what you
like because I'm not a drug addict (both my brothers became heroin addicts and I was
next in line) and my friends aren't dead.
John
Rod Keller wrote:
> Wood (cjw...@globalnet.co.uk) wrote:
> : Please answer my question first. What do you know about Scientology if you've
> : never been a member? Which LRH books have you read for example?
>
> I have read more than a dozen books by el-are-aich. In no particular
> order:
>
> Introduction to Scientology Ethics
> Have You Lived Before This Life?
> Understanding the E-Meter
> History of Man
> All About Radiation
> Evolution of a Science
> A New Slant on Life
> Science of Survival
> Creation of Human Ability
> The Russian Brainwashing Manual
>
> Now, on to my questions:
>
> : > Although I've never been a member, I certainly do know something about
> : > Scientology personally. What's your story? What could you not-know about
> : > Scientology? And how does knowing about Xenu affect your case?
>
> Bet you won't answer.
>
> --
> Rod Keller / rke...@voicenet.com / Irresponsible Publisher
> Black Hat #1 / Expert of the Toilet / CWPD Mouthpiece / Killer Rod
> The Lerma Apologist / Merchant of Chaos / Vision of Destruction
> Bigot of Mystery / OSA Patsy / Quasi-Scieno / Mental Bully
--
Wood
Saint Hill.
"©Anti-Cult® - www.users.wineasy.se/noname/" wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Jul 1999 16:14:11 +0100.
> In Message-ID: <37A312C2...@globalnet.co.uk>
> Wood <cjw...@globalnet.co.uk>.
> From: GXSN.
> Wrote on the subject: Re: Scientology:
>
> >Rod,
> >
> >What's your story then? Do you know anything about Scientology personally?
> >
> >John Wood
> >
>
> Hi John, is this you?
--
Wood
this studio business you are talking about? Please explain. Your URL doesn't
work.
John
"©Anti-Cult® - www.users.wineasy.se/noname/" wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Jul 1999 17:46:54 +0100.
> In Message-ID: <37A3287D...@globalnet.co.uk>
> Wood <cjw...@globalnet.co.uk>.
> From: GXSN.
> Wrote on the subject: Re: Scientology:
>
> >Please answer my question first. What do you know about Scientology if you've
> >never been a member? Which LRH books have you read for example?
> >
> >John Wood
> >
> What do you know about nazis John, if you never was one? Stupid
> scientology question line John, and you know it.
>
> Is this realy you John, you did a poor job, and you never returned to the
> studio with the papers you promised.
>
Rod Keller
: Scientology got me off drugs and Narconon saved the lives of two friends of mine.
: Need I say any more? Xenu, Shenu as far as I'm concerned. You can say what you
: like because I'm not a drug addict (both my brothers became heroin addicts and I was
: next in line) and my friends aren't dead.
Yes, you need to say more. You need to answer the questions, as you
indicated you would when you posed your question about LRH books.
As far as your friends not being dead, I guess you never knew Lisa
McPherson.
: Rod Keller wrote:
:
: > Wood (cjw...@globalnet.co.uk) wrote:
: > : Please answer my question first. What do you know about Scientology if you've
: > : never been a member? Which LRH books have you read for example?
: >
: > I have read more than a dozen books by el-are-aich. In no particular
: > order:
: >
: > Introduction to Scientology Ethics
: > Have You Lived Before This Life?
: > Understanding the E-Meter
: > History of Man
: > All About Radiation
: > Evolution of a Science
: > A New Slant on Life
: > Science of Survival
: > Creation of Human Ability
: > The Russian Brainwashing Manual
: >
: > Now, on to my questions:
: >
: > : > Although I've never been a member, I certainly do know something about
: > : > Scientology personally. What's your story? What could you not-know about
: > : > Scientology? And how does knowing about Xenu affect your case?
: >
: > Bet you won't answer.
This prediction seems to be coming true.
LRH built my hotrod
wrote:
>I understand the confusion now - my wife and I share this e-mail address. What's
>this studio business you are talking about? Please explain. Your URL doesn't
>work.
url works just fine.
the url might not work for _you_, because you maybe have the
"scieno-sitter"-filter installed?
my question: did you install the software which came on the cd-rom
with the "scientologists on-line" package?
if yes, then your net-access is being censored/filtered by the church
of scientology and you are not able to access critical information
about scientology.
more details (incl. several media-articles) about this
scieno-sitter-filter at:
http://www.xenu.net/archive/events/censorship/
welcome to "1984" !
>John
>
>"©Anti-Cult® - www.users.wineasy.se/noname/" wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 31 Jul 1999 17:46:54 +0100.
>> In Message-ID: <37A3287D...@globalnet.co.uk>
>> Wood <cjw...@globalnet.co.uk>.
>> From: GXSN.
>> Wrote on the subject: Re: Scientology:
>>
>> >Please answer my question first. What do you know about Scientology if you've
>> >never been a member? Which LRH books have you read for example?
>> >
--
What Scientology Doesn't Want You To Know:
http://www.xenu.net
http://www.scientology-kills.org
Bat Child (Sue M.)
wrote:
>I understand the confusion now - my wife and I share this e-mail address. What's
>this studio business you are talking about? Please explain. Your URL doesn't
>work.
>
>John
>
Also webbed at:
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chr...@lutefisk.demon.co.uk says...
> The following interview was conducted on 20 December 1997 by a local
> radio station in Guildford, Surrey.
>
The transcript is occasionally inaccurate, and some of the errors are
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Interview, Radio Guildford (?), 20 December 1997
PRESENTER: It was decided not to open a drugs helpline in the town
this afternoon. Councillor Linda Strudwick says that when she agreed
to officiate at the opening of the Narconon drugs helpline, she was
unaware of the organisation's links with the Church of Scientology and
controversy over its methods. Her office now says it will be doing
more research on Narconon before agreeing to having any more official
involvement.
In a moment we'll be speaking to John Wood, who is the UK President of
Narconon. First, though, our reporter Nicola Downs has been looking at
the organisation.
NICOLA DOWNS: Narconon describes itself as a totally drug-free, highly
effective programme to rehabilitate drug or alcohol users and put them
back in control of their lives. It uses methods developed by L. Ron
Hubbard, the founder of the Church of Scientology. The programme was
first made available to the public in 1972 but since then its unusual
and unconventional methods have caused concern and controversy.
"Claire", who has asked to remain anonymous, took part in a Narconon
project to give moral support to her boyfriend, who is addicted to
heroin. She describes some of the methods used by Narconon to wean him
off drugs:
"CLAIRE": I know what Phil went through because I went through the
same thing. Some of we were doing the things called "training your
TRs", as they're called, where you sit and stare into somebody's eyes
and you pass and fail things, and sometimes you're not allowed to
speak, and there's another one called "TR Bullbait" where you sit and
stare and people sort of hurl abuse at you or try to get you to grin
or move. You're not supposed to react to noises, and sort of smacks
close to your face and all sorts of things like that - you're not to
react.
NICOLA DOWNS: And she says she was surprised by some of the other
methods used.
"CLAIRE": They said that the - that Phil's drug abuse, and even things
like me having injections in my mouth for my fillings, all of these
things get taken into into our body and actually get trapped in the
fat cells, and you have to go into this sauna, you go for half an
hour's jog, you take lots of vitamins and minerals. You take these,
you go out for a jog for half an hour, then you come back and sit in
the sauna for four and a half hours. They say that the heat and the
vitamins stimulate the things in your body and they come out of you.
You just hope that you're going to survive it, but when you're with
somebody who is so keen to feel like they want their life back and
you'll just go through anything. And I was absolutely convinced that
what they were telling me was true, that they were going to cure him.
NICOLA DOWNS: John Garrows is a Professor of Human Nutrition who's
head of the department at St Bart's Medical School in London. We asked
him if in his opinion giving drug addicts doses of minerals and
vitamins, as is described in Narconon's literature, and experienced by
"Claire" and her boyfriend, would be effective in detoxifying them.
JOHN GARROWS: On theoretical grounds I don't know any reason why the
programme of drugs and exercise and saunas and so forth *should* be
particularly effective, nor do I know of any trials in which they have
compared their programme with anybody else's programme in a properly
controlled manner i.e. starting with the same sort of people at the
beginning....
NICOLA DOWNS: And forensic psychiatrist Dr. Elizabeth Tylden says she
treated half a dozen people at her London practice suffering from what
she sees as the ill-effects of the Narconon programme.
DR TYLDEN: Some of the advice that they were given would be OK, but
the programme hasn't been effective in the people who I've known
who've tried to use it. I've come across people who've looked
extremely ill.
NICOLA DOWNS:One of the criticisms about Narconon that's been aired is
that it's not sufficiently upfront about its links with Scientology.
"Claire" says that she was positively encouraged by Narconon to go to
the Scientology headquarters in East Grinstead for help in getting
over her depression about her boyfriend's problem.
"CLAIRE": It wasn't explained to me like that, that they - what
happened was then Phil got quite ill and very stressed-out and I was
getting very upset because I didn't know what was happening to him. I
was told that there was a way that would help me and I kept saying to
Sheila, "What is that way - ?", I said "Is it Narconon?" "No no no,
it's not Narconon, but Narconon is quite similar," and I was sent to a
man's house in East Grinstead. He was a member of the Church of
Scientology and they have a special way of dealing with things. I was
given a freebie of this certain way that they do things.
NICOLA DOWNS: After several weeks on the Narconon programme, Claire's
boyfriend went back to taking heroin and is currently in prison. The
Narconon rehab clinic he attended is no longer open. In fact Narconon
currently has no drug rehab clinics in the UK at all. Those who enrol
must travel to Holland.
PRESENTER: Well, that was our reporter, Nicola Downs, reporting there.
And John Wood from Narconon joins me now. Good morning, John.
JOHN WOOD: Good morning.
PRESENTER: The first criticism contained in the report there that I've
like to ask you about - in your leaflet, which I've got in front of me
- "Give them the truth and they'll see the light" - the word
Scientology doesn't appear at all. Why not?
JOHN WOOD: Well, I really don't see why it should. I mean, Narconon is
an effective drug rehabilitation centre. It is also an effective
method of warning children about the dangers of drugs. Now, L. Ron
Hubbard developed many techniques to overcome many of society's ills.
There's a whole range of different solutions he's developed in society
- and, uh - I don't see why every time his name is mentioned all of
them should be mentioned next to it.
PRESENTER: Well, just to pick you up on that at the moment, what were
Mr. Hubbard's qualifications for this?
JOHN WOOD: Well, he is an expert in I think 29 different fields.
PRESENTER: Well, according to the Board of Mental Health in the State
of Oklahoma, and this, admittedly, was in 1991, they said that they
threw out the certification of Narconon purely because he had no
professional qualifications and was not really fitted to quote on it.
JOHN WOOD: Yeah, um you've got old information there. Your researchers
didn't do their job properly. Can I just - Can I just start again?
Listen: we are saving people's lives. Narconon is an effective drug
rehabilitation centre. Now, what has happened here, right, is that
controversy has been created by your researcher on purpose because
that's his job. That's how he feels he gets his reward, by creating
controversy. He has gone to - on that tape he has gone to people that
are known - going to say something negative about this. How come he
hasn't gone to - There are a hundred and forty thousand people in the
world who say their lives have been saved thanks to Narconon.
PRESENTER: Where has this research been published?
JOHN WOOD: No, they're all over the world. The testimonials - Sorry,
there's no doubt that Narconon is the most effective drug
rehabilitation method in the world -
PRESENTER: Where is the published research?
JOHN WOOD: There are plenty of reports that have been conducted -
PRESENTER: Like where, for example?
JOHN WOOD: Well, how - Well, there have been tests done in Sweden, in
Spain and various other - it was written up in the Journal of
Toxicology. But the point is your researcher went out of his way to
create controversy.
PRESENTER: Well, this is your opportunity to tell -
JOHN WOOD: Absolutely - Well, I would like to say I'm disgusted -
(both talk at once)
PRESENTER: You're not telling me where I can go to, an accredited body
in *this* country which has scientific approval, to tell me that your
Narconon is an effective treatment against drugs.
JOHN WOOD: Well, the effective - the place to go is to meet the people
- Why don't your researchers ever contact people that have done the
programme? My own - my own friend, my best friend - I was at
university with him at this university in the eighties, he was an
alcoholic. He says his life was saved. He tells me himself his life
was saved by drugs [sic]. He's a Guildford man who was injecting
methadone for fourteen years. And he did the methodone - the uh
Narconon -
PRESENTER: I'm not suggesting that nobody's ever benefited from your
programme, I'm saying that the fact that we do not seem to have any
written evidence from what people would recognise as a properly
qualified clinical body in the United Kingdom to give you the full
accreditation -
(JOHN WOOD tries to interrupt)
PRESENTER:- of an anti-narcotics agency. Why not?
JOHN WOOD: It is not a clinical agency. It is not medical. That's the
main reason.
PRESENTER: So it's psychological?
JOHN WOOD: No - I mean, when the centre operated in the UK, in Dover,
and in Crowborough [near East Grinstead], we are authorised as a
registered care home and we received funding from the Social Services
for people to do the programme. And - If it was medical, we would have
to be a nursing home, so I'm sorry but it's not a medical treatment.
If you like to call it psychological, it basically deals with the
reasons someone got involved in drugs in the first place -
PRESENTER: All right -
JOHN WOOD: - and helps them overcome it.
PRESENTER: So you're saying people who deal with drugs , we know, are
enormously vulnerable, and especially when you're getting them off it
they go through all kinds of psychological dark shadows which are
being brought out. Now, you say you're not medical and you're not
psychiatric, so what qualifies you to do this?
JOHN WOOD: Well - God! - we've got nothing to do with *psychiatry* -
their practices are *dangerous*! They put people on - I mean listen to
this - psychiatrists put people *on* an addictive substance that's
more addictive than the drug they were taking in the first place. They
replace heroin with methodone -
PRESENTER: Now I have no medical qualifications so I can't argue with
you on that. What I am saying is two things, and you still haven't
answered my first question. Why is there no published research by an
accredited body to the UK which says that Narconon is a proper agency
doing a good job?
JOHN WOOD: Well, there's no such report in the UK, however there are
plenty of international ones - The thing is, Narconon is standard
throughout the world. It's the same programme - the withdrawal
programme, the sauna detoxification, as spoken about in that tape, and
methods looking at the person's ethics, honesty - restoring - You see,
the real issue here is drugs cause enormous destruction in society. I
mean, you know, what are we talking about here? It's the parent's
greatest fear, that their children get involved in drugs. Addicts are
involved in crime, we're talking about robbery, we're talking about
AIDS from needles - we're talking about -
PRESENTER: Nobody's arguing about the drugs menace. What we're talking
- It's not the subject we're discussing here. The subject we're
discussing here is whether Narconon is an effective treatment for
drugs or a front for the Scientology movement.
JOHN WOOD: Oh, please. I mean - There are experts throughout the world
- I could supply you - your researchers never even tried, they went
out of their way to find only negative reports -
PRESENTER: Can you give the names of any two agencies in this country
that we could telephone and get official accreditation for Narconon?
JOHN WOOD: Well, I don't really know what you mean by "official
accreditation".
PRESENTER: Well, I mean, for example the one I quoted - admittedly -
from seven or eight years ago which says that certification was
refused, this was the one in America - here we are, the Board of
Mental Health for the State of Oklahoma - now, you must have,
presumably, acceptances from people who are not the Board of Mental
Health for the State of Oklahoma.
JOHN WOOD: Oh, yes - well, you see now let me - this is going to be
embarrassing for you, I'm afraid - but the thing you are talking about
there - the Oklahoma Board of Mental Health - What actually happened
was that psychiatrists that are controlling that, that run that mental
health board, refused to give a licence to Narconon because their
methods are ineffective, they were going to be embarrassed, their
vested interests in their methadone treatments and all their -
PRESENTER interrupts, both talk across each other
JOHN WOOD: This is the truth. I'm telling you the truth here -
PRESENTER: That's what they say -
(Both speak together)
JOHN WOOD: - No - Please - Can I - Give me a chance to answer the
question. Thank you. Now, this was back in '91 or whatever it is and
that was some very out of date information you've got there. Now, what
happened after the licence was refused was that an organisation called
CARF [Commission for Accreditation of Rehabilitation Facilities] - it
is basically in America a five - If you get accreditation from the
organisation CARF, which is a five-star organisation, and we have - it
has - The accreditation from that is the best. It is the stamp of
approval. After, given all of that, the Mental Health Board looked
stupid and they gave a licence because they just -
PRESENTER (interrupting): Are you saying it does now have a licence?
JOHN WOOD: Absolutely. *Absolutely*. It is recognised by CARF and many
others in the UK.
PRESENTER: Do you have any documentary evidence of this?
JOHN WOOD: I can give it to you with pleasure. It's in my car, I
haven't actually got it with the things right here - I can give to you
in a second.
PRESENTER: I do apologise, you've given me a lot of anecdotal
evidence, and that's something which is fine, except that - you must
know this as a Scientologist yourself obviously - the Church of
Scientology comes in for a fair amount of criticism, and I'm not
saying that it's deserved or otherwise, I don't know anything about
it.
JOHN WOOD (in background): Right.
PRESENTER: What I am saying is - you must know that whatever you do is
going to come into this - shouldn't you be belt-and-braces, copper-
bottomed, absolutely solid gold with your research printed material
before you go into any of this?
JOHN WOOD: Well, I have a report that Jonathon never asked for, which
is called "A briefing -
PRESENTER (interrupts): Well hang on a minute -
JOHN WOOD: - it has all the details there -
PRESENTER: You're accusing our researcher of having it in for you -
JOHN WOOD: Yeah.
PRESENTER: - and yet you're saying you had a report which explains -
JOHN WOOD: Which he never asked for -
PRESENTER: - which you never - well - But why didn't you volunteer to
give it to him?
JOHN WOOD: Well, hell, he's the researcher. He's doing all the dirty
work behind our back. I'm sorry, he never asked me. He could have gone
to plenty of addicts - He could -
PRESENTER: That's rather like somebody accused of burglary saying I
never gave them an alibi because they never asked me for one.
JOHN WOOD: Well, I didn't - I gave you the press release, you've got
Scientology and all the details - All here (rustles paper).
PRESENTER: I'd like to see that.
JOHN WOOD: OK, it's completely there. It's talking about the Jive
Aces, promoting the book "Scientology: Fundamentals of Thought". OK.
He never called me and said, "Can I be introduced to someone who has
done the programme - who's said it's saved my life", but -
PRESENTER: We did - he did ask this agency in London everything they
had on you -
JOHN WOOD: Yeah but -
PRESENTER: - and what we've got is basically all your own publications
here, plus - there's also another one here, from the Ministry of
Public Health of the Russian Federation, refusing certification to
Narconon.
JOHN WOOD: Let's update and - You know, he's purposefully gone out of
his way to create controversy, which is inexcusable. We're working on
this serious drug problem. There are, there -
(PRESENTER and WOOD talk across each other briefly)
PRESENTER: But if they haven't got all the information that's your
fault for not telling them.
JOHN WOOD: OK. Sure, OK. I admit - Sorry, I should have made sure that
the agencies that he went to had all the latest information - they
haven't. Thank you very much for pointing that out to me. The fact is
- Look, locally here we have five percent of eleven-year-olds using
cannabis.
PRESENTER: This is not the issue, John. The issue is not drugs. The
issue is (a) does Narconon work and (b) is it a front for Scientology?
And you haven't answered either of those questions.
JOHN WOOD: Yes, it does work, it's the most effective rehab in the
world.
PRESENTER: And is it a front for Scientology?
JOHN WOOD: Look, uh - that is - that is irrelevant. Firstly -
PRESENTER: I must take issue with you there. You are dealing with
people, in sauna baths for hours at a time, who are at their most
vulnerable, their most self-doubting, at their most desperate. You've
got the opportunity to - I'm not suggesting that you do this, I'm
saying that the opportunity would be there if you were to take it to
put any thoughts you wanted into their minds.
JOHN WOOD: Please - listen to this! - What Narconon really does, is
take a person who is an addict. I'm talking about a life of crime, I'm
talking about overdosing and AIDS and so on. It was - he has no
choice. He is a slave to the drugs. He has to rob you, your house, my
house, to survive, right? Narconon takes a person like that, restores
his life, gives him honesty, gives him a life back, ability to work,
no longer a burden on the taxpayer. That's fantastic. That is
fantastic. You're actually giving a person his life back.
PRESENTER: But once again, you still haven't - When will you be able
to present us with hard, black-and-white evidence signed by someone in
the Department of Health saying yes, Narconon is a good and effective
treatment for drug rehabilitation and it has no strings of any other
kind attached to it? When?
JOHN WOOD: In about five minutes. It's in my boot. Do you want to hang
on?
PRESENTER: Well, we'll have to leave it there for the moment but,
John, if you want to bring it in I'll certainly have a look at it.
JOHN WOOD: Ah, uh I will. With pleasure.
PRESENTER: Thank you very much indeed. That's John Wood, from Narconon
- pulling the case - thank you very much for joining us.
JOHN WOOD: Thank you.
[END]
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with the combination of evil and incompetence
you see in Scientology."--Keith Henson
Wood
I did provide the documents I promised. Exactly as I said on air, they were in my
car. I left the studio and immediately gave them to the producer of the show Jonathan
Greenwood (one of your chums I would imagine). The fact that he chose to ignore them
just proves that he only wanted to attack Narconon and that he was not interested in
the true results of how it really gets people off drugs and the support it has with
medical and judicial experts.
If you give me your mailing address, I'll send these documents to you. I don't
suppose you will because you're probably too cowardly to reveal your address to me and
even if I sent them to you, you would probably just chuck them away because it proves
my claims on air were TOTALLY true. That's not what you want to hear is it?
So where's my interview on the BBC World Service on your website where I talk about
Germany's gross religious intolerence regarding Scientology and other religions in
that country? And where are the many other interviews I have done? They show
Scientology in too positive a light for you right? So you edited them out.
Right...now I understand.
John Wood
Wood
Rod Keller
: >If you give me your mailing address, I'll send these documents to you. I don't
: >suppose you will because you're probably too cowardly to reveal your address to me and
: >even if I sent them to you, you would probably just chuck them away because it proves
: >my claims on air were TOTALLY true. That's not what you want to hear is it?
: If you want that, here's my full name and address, and my phone numbers
: too:
:
: Sten-Arne Zerpe
: Kristinelundsvagen 24
: S-171 50
: Solna
: Sweden
[snip]
: I can assure you, that if I had those interviews, I would web them
: immediately. If you can provide me with the tapes, I'll encode them into
: RealAudio as soon as I get the tapes.
An offer I'm sure John can't refuse. Send the tape, send the files, let's
get it all out in the open. Let's all look at the evidence honestly. This
is really a terrific dissem opportunity and a chance to forward your
communication along enemy comm lines.
Eddie Stratton
<cjw...@globalnet.co.uk> writes
>Thank you for this. I had forgotten what had been said on this radio show and
>it's good to have it all now in writing.
>
>John Wood
>--
bodies in this field have validated the Narconon regime as an effective
drug rehabilitation program? By the way, I don't accept or even
recognise subjective testimony, because I know a fair bit about
influence.
It's okay, you can go to your car and get whatever documentation you
need, I can wait...
Cheers...
Funky Donny