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PirateJohn
The continuation of the forum in his memory is a nice touch.
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Thanks for dropping by! =)
PirateJohn
posting!! >>
I will. Actually, there was already a nice discussion underway
regarding the revised Keys Guide that I worked up ;)
kat...@hotmail.com
C'mon in!!!
PirateJohn
C'mon in!!! >>
I'm trying. I'm in the middle of having a little discussion with your
technical support people. I think that I was active there once upon a
time and somewhere along the lines the records got screwed up and we
are having trouble recovering the original account information.
Sometimes one just has to laugh ;)
Frank Albritton
says...
>
><< No kidding?! You definitely need to be a part of our group, then!
>C'mon in!!! >>
>
>I'm trying. I'm in the middle of having a little discussion with your
>technical support people. I think that I was active there once upon a
>time
Damn, Boy... Is there ANYTHING that you haven't gotten thrown out of?
You THINK you were active there??? Of course you were active there, IDIOT!
You got tossed out on your fat, flabby ass, so now you have to grovel and beg
forgiveness...
BWHAHAhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
PirateJohn
doesn't check out either. Have you figured out what the secret
password for Florida is yet?
Chump.
And how is that phone sex gig of yours going? Helping to pay those
bills? ROFL!
Anderson, I swear, you are one pathetic piece of stalking, trolling
shit.
When you have something productive to offer, let us know. In the
meantime you are just a foolish old woman who cannot get over being
rejected.
"Saw a panther" my ass.
Frank Albritton
says...
>
>Hey "Frank" ... whose name doesn't check out and whose email address
>doesn't check out either.
OOOOOooooohhhhh... You're trying to find out who I am... You wouldn't be
trying to figure out who I am if you know who I am, comprende?
>When you have something productive to offer, let us know.
You mean topics about Florida or how you caught yet another sexually transmitted
disease from those boys in Mexico?
Hey, Florida Boy, tell us what a grove pepper is...
Hey, Florida Boy, tell us what name was used for mullet to attract more people
to eating that fish...
Hey, Florida Boy, tell us what happens every year on the Waccasassa River...
Hey, Florida Boy, tell us where the town of Manhattan is in FL...
PirateJohn
wouldn't be
trying to figure out who I am if you know who I am, comprende? >>
LOL! What an idiot you are.
"Frank" is an old woman named Karen Anderson who lives in a small
apartment at 3590 Narrows View Lane,Bremerton, WA. She got a crush on
me several years ago and I didn't have the heart at the time to just
tell her to take a flying leap.
Well, Old Anderson, all 5' and 350 lbs of her, doesn't take rejection
well. Not well at all. It turns out that she has been in a mental
hospital and she has stalked maybe a dozen guys over the last decade.
The cops in Bremerton are getting to know her fairly well at this point
in the game.
Old Anderson pretends to be just a zillion different personalities
online. "Frank" and "Jose" are just two of them.
I recently discovered that "Frank" here (or maybe I should say Jose) is
using about two dozen email addresses pretending to be teenaged girls
in order to generate calls for a phone sex operation. He, she, or it
is working for a Virginia company appropriately named Rosie Palm
Island. So unless "Frank" puts his nuts into a vice when he answers
the phone and pretends to be Angel, the teenaged Hispanic chick, or
"he" lost his genitalia in The War, I rather doubt that some old man
can pitch his voice to sound like a young girl.
Tell you what "Frank." Prove that I'm wrong. You are so rough and
tough <snicker, snicker>. Provide your street address. After all, you
were "brave" enough to finally provide a (fake) name, even if it is the
second or third name that you have used, right?
And I'll give you a little hint. If you actually have some schmuck
named Albritton scoped out as a patsy, I certainly will contact him or
her. If you are harrassing some poor soul my suspicions are that the
St. Pete police may want to call that identity theft and might want to
have a little chat with you.
So bottom line is that you won't provide an address because, duh ...
you are a liar.
Anderson, I am certainly not afraid of you. I was initially reluctant
to write that I'd kick your ass if you were ever stupid enough to show
up in Florida again, but it's obvious that you don't have the physical
or financial means to travel any more. When the cops found you hiding
in your apartment last year and you were pretending that you were on
the way to New Orleans to stalk another guy, that pretty well told the
story that you were nothing but hot air.
And you sure as hell aren't some dried up old Viet Nam vet. Too many
wrong answers, and too many bullshit stories that you tell that you
then forget. You need to keep better notes.
The laws have changed in Florida, and today a stalker that shows up to
hassle someone is taking their life and health in their own hands.
That should be a hint to you sad sacks of shit that spend all of your
time trolling.
Let's go ahead and crosspost this to a few newsgroups where there are
still people that just hate you, Anderson. They need to be warned that
you are still around
John Wesley
Pirat...@aol.com says...
> << OOOOOooooohhhhh... You're trying to find out who I am... You
> wouldn't be
> trying to figure out who I am if you know who I am, comprende? >>
>
> LOL! What an idiot you are.
>
>
PLONK!
PirateJohn
Anderson's one of your favorite people over there, Einstein. She
stalked several folks from your newsgroup just a few years ago.
Then again, maybe you've been too tied up with your off topic political
nonsense to remember.
PirateJohn
and posts anti-Hispanic bullshit all the time.
A class act, right up there with Anderson.
According to "John Wesley":
>> That's a mexican animal for you, thinking graffiti is "an art".
I didn't know they could think! <<
Frank Albritton
says...
I see PirateJohn got kicked off yet another newsgroup...
BWHAHAhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahha
How many does this make? I've lost count...
Frank Albritton
says...
>
><< OOOOOooooohhhhh... You're trying to find out who I am... You
>wouldn't be
>trying to figure out who I am if you know who I am, comprende? >>
>
>tough <snicker, snicker>. Provide your street address.
OOOOooooohhhhh... are you trying to stalk me, John Gilmer?
>And I'll give you a little hint.
Do you have a death wish, boy?
>So bottom line is that you won't provide an address because, duh ...
>you are a liar.
Is that the way you see it, cretin? You can't see that you are the prey, can
you fuckwad?
>Anderson, I am certainly not afraid of you.
Why do you interject someone else in this discussion? But, since you have, I
will have to say that you are on record of being a sniveling little shit who
peed in his pants and called the police and got detectives and the state
attorney to try to arrest a 60 something woman who lives over 3000 miles from
you because she [GASP] sent you an 8"X10" glossy of you and your "girl friend"
on your bike.
>I was initially reluctant to write that I'd kick your ass if you were ever
>>stupid enough to show up in Florida again
I've never left Florida. I live here. AND, you'll have your opportunity to TRY
to kick my ass... It will be at my time and my location... you guess when...
>but it's obvious that you don't have the physical or financial means to >travel
>any more.
I'm more fit now than you were when you were 20 years old, and it wouldn't take
one tank of gas to get to Jacksonville, fucking loser!
>When the cops found you hiding in your apartment
I don't live in an apartment.
>And you sure as hell aren't some dried up old Viet Nam vet.
Correct. I'm an ass-kicking Vietnam vet.
>The laws have changed in Florida, and today a stalker that shows up to
>hassle someone is taking their life and health in their own hands.
Dream on. I don't show up on door steps... Fool!
>That should be a hint to you sad sacks of shit that spend all of your
>time trolling.
I don't spend all my time trolling... you do.
>Let's go ahead and crosspost this to a few newsgroups
Go ahead and crosspost. I don't give a fuck!
TaxmanHog
Take this crap outside the VBG!
don't let door hit ya in the ass, & stay out.
Sally Graham
>
>Take this crap outside the VBG!
>don't let door hit ya in the ass, & stay out.
PirateJohn wrote:
"Let's go ahead and crosspost this to a few newsgroups"
Why does he insist on crossposting? I'm tired of reading his crap!
PirateJohn
>>
Sally, Sally, Sally ... you don't exist except to post to sex groups.
A quick look at where you post shows that you are just another of
Anderson's phone sex identities.
Not even a good try. Sorry.
William Boyd
> Must be a friend of Lon's.
>
> On 8 Feb 2006 06:24:10 -0800, "PirateJohn" <Pirat...@aol.com> wrote:
LOL
--
Bill P.
just
Dog
&
ME
PirateJohn
Pete? After all, a big tough hombre like you wouldn't have any trouble
spitting it out once you have already revealed your name and your town,
now would you?
Naw, Anderson, you are just a stupid fucking racist redneck and even
your aliases come off as looking like stupid fucking racist rednecks.
You need to do better next time.
Just so that no one forgets the kind of idiot that we are talking
about, here she is: http://rattler-stomper.tripod.com/karen_anderson/
Stupid old Karen Anderson of Bremerton, Washington. Resident patient
in a mental hospital for what -- 2 years?
You said that you were going away "Frank." I mean Karen. Your life
must really be lonely and useless if you are back this quickly.
What an idiot that you are.
Sally Graham
while fondling his puss infected penis wrote:
>
><< Why does he insist on crossposting? I'm tired of reading his crap!
>>>
>
>Sally, Sally, Sally ... you don't exist except to post to sex groups.
You sure do talk a lot about sex. Those boys in Mexico really turned you on,
Buttercup...
Why can't you answer the quesions about Florida? Can't find it on a web site?
Ohhhh... I know one you can answer... Where is the nearest gay bar?
John Wesley
Pirat...@aol.com says...
Samo...@aol.com
> Why does he insist on crossposting? I'm tired of reading his crap!
All PirataJuan does is call you a "racist". That's his way of
"debating". As if calling someone a "racist" is 100X .
The "raxcist" riposte is part of the larger liberal tactic of refusing
to engage in ideas. Sometimes they evaporate in the middle of an
argument and you're left standing alone, arguing with yourself. More
often, liberals withdraw figuratively by responding with ludicrous and
irrelevant personal attacks. Especially popular are non-sequitors that
are also savagely cruel. A vicious personal smear, they believe,
constitutes a clever counterargument. Your refusal to submit to
name-calling means you were overwhelmed by the force of their argument
that you are a "racist."
PirateJohn
<< I'm racist. I hate Pirates >>
You also hate Hispanics, Jews, blacks, and Moslems. I've read enough
of your posts to know that you are just some knuckle-dragging retard.
PirateJohn
whines:
<< >Sally, Sally, Sally ... you don't exist except to post to sex
groups.
You sure do talk a lot about sex. >>
But obviously not as much as you do. What sort of paycheck do you get
from Rosey Palm Island for being a phone sex operator -- any more than
$50/month?
You are really slumming Anderson, when you have to solicit for phone
sex. Sheesh.
And who would ever want to talk to "Sally" here knowing that this is
what she really looks like?
http://rattler-stomper.tripod.com/karen_anderson/
You are genuinely one ugly looking old skank.
Frank Albritton
says...
>
>So "Frank" ... where's that address in St.
>Pete? After all, a big tough hombre like you wouldn't have any trouble
>spitting it out once you have already revealed your name and your town,
>now would you?
Stalking again, are you?
BWHAhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
You couldn't find me if I gave you my GPS coordinates and drew a map with a
fucking arrow pointing to my front door!!!
When in the hell did I ever say that I live in Saint Petersburg? All that fat
in your ass has replaced what little pea brain that you ever had.
Now be a good boy and go back to work at that minimum wage job of yours... oh
yeah... I forgot. You got a raise. YAAHOOOOOOOO... now you can afford to
supersize your whopper!!!!
BWHAHAhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Fuckin' Deadbeat!
Cindy
says...
You'd hate him a lot more if you knew what his name was. PirateJohn is John
Wesley Gilmer who lives with a fat hog named Deborah Lynch. Their pig sty is
located in Jacksonville Beach.
PirateJohn
in detail about your "soft white body" ROFL!!
Here's that soft white body of yours -- skanky old 350 lbs. of Karen
Anderson of Bremerton, Washington and her pink vibrator:
http://rattler-stomper.tripod.com/karen_anderson/
Anderson, you really should be getting used to rejection by now. EVERY
guy that you approach is disgusted by you. Hell, your cat even ran off
from you.
God, what a loser you are.
PirateJohn
until she was institutonalized in a mental hospital, makes excuses for
not giving out his address:
<<You couldn't find me if I gave you my GPS coordinates and drew a map
with a
fucking arrow pointing to my front door!!! >>
Why don't you give it a try? I doubt if you understand the different
systems used for calculating coordiantes, but try it anyway.
So what's the address or coordinates, Genius?
Answer: no place in Florida, that's for sure. Because there is no
"Frank" except in the mind of a skanky old woman in Bremerton, WA.
PirateJohn
If you claim to exist, and you give out your city as easily as you do,
then you shouldn't have any trouble revealing your address, now would
you?
That is, if you were real and not the product of Skanky Old Anderson's
sick mind ;)
Frank Albritton
says...
>
><<You couldn't find me if I gave you my GPS coordinates and drew a map
>with a
>fucking arrow pointing to my front door!!! >>
>
>Why don't you give it a try? I doubt if you understand the different
>systems used for calculating coordiantes, but try it anyway.
>
>So what's the address or coordinates, Genius?
Unlike you, I don't have STUPID written all over my face... I've given more
than a fair share of hints and I even sent you 2 e-mails with my complete real
name. You had your ego stuck so far up your ass that you couldn't comprhend
that those e-mails was from the worse enemy that you'll ever meet...
Don't believe I was in the 'Nam? What do these words mean? Sapper, Green Line,
Arc Light, Blooper, DEROS, Short Stick, Dink, "33", LBJ, WP, Smoke, Puff The
Magic Dragon, Shake & Bake, Butter Bars, Bamboo Poisoning, P-38, ROK, PAVN, Golf
Course, CS, Bouncing Betty... That's enough for now. That'll keep you busy for
the next ten years.
Fucking IDIOT!
Frank Albritton
says...
I see I'm on your mind a lot. You should be worried, really worried.
Even your fag buddies don't believe you.
PirateJohn
worried. >>
ROFL!! You really need to drink more Anderson. You are genuinely
going off that deep end.
Still no address and still dancing around the issue, too, I see ;)
PirateJohn
<< Unlike you, I don't have STUPID written all over my face >>
Stupid, skank, insane, liar, redneck, idjit, lard belly, racist ... I
could keep going but you've run out of face.
<< Don't believe I was in the 'Nam? What do these words mean? >>
It means mostly that you read a bit. And fantasize. Like Anderson.
Who also happened to be a C-131 fan, before she became a stalker.
No, I don't believe for a second that you were ever in 'Nam. Unless
you were a ditch digger. Or a cook. Which, IIRC, Anderson was a cook
with some connections to returning servicemen back in her day.
Hell, I don't care if you are Rambo Himself. You are still a dumbshit,
and I wouldn't have any trouble whatsoever with putting another
dumbshit out of his/her misery and getting them away from polite
society.
Soooooooooo Anderson ... warning up that broom for your next flight? ;)
And Rambo ... if you are so tough, and you don't mind giving out your
name and general area, then why are you so chicken about giving out a
street number so that I can check it out? After all, your name (2nd of
3rd one that Anderson has tried to use) and your email address don't
check out. Wonder why that is?
LOL!
Frank Albritton
says...
>
>Hell, I don't care if you are Rambo Himself. You are still a dumbshit,
>and I wouldn't have any trouble whatsoever with putting another
>dumbshit out of his/her misery and getting them away from polite
>society.
"Another" out of his/her misery? That's quite a boast, Mr. Sociopath. Where's
the body?
You wouldn't be lying again, would you, Buttercup?
GeekBoy
"Frank Albritton" <Frank_...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:dsg57...@drn.newsguy.com...
> In article <1139501785.0...@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> PirateJohn
> says...
>>
>><<You couldn't find me if I gave you my GPS coordinates and drew a map
>>with a
>>fucking arrow pointing to my front door!!! >>
>>
>>Why don't you give it a try? I doubt if you understand the different
>>systems used for calculating coordiantes, but try it anyway.
>>
>>So what's the address or coordinates, Genius?
>
> Unlike you, I don't have STUPID written all over my face... I've given
> more
> than a fair share of hints and I even sent you 2 e-mails with my complete
> real
> name. You had your ego stuck so far up your ass that you couldn't
> comprhend
> that those e-mails was from the worse enemy that you'll ever meet...
>
> Don't believe I was in the 'Nam? What do these words mean?
Let me take a stab at this QUIZ
Sapper,
Green Line, Isn't that on a range card for lines of fire on a defensive
position?
Arc Light,
Blooper,
DEROS,
Short Stick,
Dink,
"33", 33rd Parallel? or 33 degrees latitude?
LBJ, Lyndon B Johnson?
WP, White Phospher?
Smoke, Mark a landing site for helo?
Puff The Magic Dragon, Air Force Aircraft with Vulcan and 105 mm
howister?
Shake & Bake,
Butter Bars, 2nd Lt?
Bamboo Poisoning, Stuck with a bamboo stick in the foot?
P-38, Can Opener?
ROK, Republic of Korea?
PAVN,
Golf Course, Mine Field?
CS, Another type of tear gas?
Frank Albritton
>
>
>Let me take a stab at this QUIZ
>
> Sapper,
Specially trained suicidal NVA soldiers.
> Green Line, Isn't that on a range card for lines of fire on a defensive
>position?
Defensive line around Camp Radcliff.
>Arc Light,
B-52 Bombing Missions.
> Blooper,
M-79 Grenade Launcher.
> DEROS,
End Of Tour Date.
>Short Stick,
A handmade stick that some carried showing that they only had a short time left
before the end of their tour.
> Dink,
Derogatory name for Vietnamese or Viet Cong.
> "33", 33rd Parallel? or 33 degrees latitude?
Brand of beer sold in Vietnam.
> LBJ, Lyndon B Johnson?
Long Binh Jail
> WP, White Phospher?
Correct!
>Smoke, Mark a landing site for helo?
Correct!
> Puff The Magic Dragon, Air Force Aircraft with Vulcan and 105 mm
>howister?
That came later. This was the earlier version using 20mm guns.
>Shake & Bake,
Soldiers who were trained in the USA to become non-commissioned officers without
any real experience.
>Butter Bars, 2nd Lt?
Correct!
>Bamboo Poisoning, Stuck with a bamboo stick in the foot?
Bamboo has sharp points like large briers that will scratch. The resulting
infection was commonly called Bamboo Poisoning.
> P-38, Can Opener?
Correct!
>ROK, Republic of Korea?
Correct!
>PAVN,
Peoples Army Of Vietnam or NVA. The Enemy.
>Golf Course, Mine Field?
Section of Camp Radcliff (AnKhe) where helicopters were housed.
> CS, Another type of tear gas?
Correct!
>Bouncing Betty...
An anti-personnel mine that would pop up from the ground and explode about waist
high.
Mrs. Ken Ehrett
<Frank_...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>Don't believe I was in the 'Nam? What do these words mean? Sapper, Green Line,
>Arc Light, Blooper, DEROS, Short Stick, Dink, "33", LBJ, WP, Smoke, Puff The
>Magic Dragon, Shake & Bake, Butter Bars, Bamboo Poisoning, P-38, ROK, PAVN, Golf
>Course, CS, Bouncing Betty... That's enough for now. That'll keep you busy for
>the next ten years.
Jeese " Jose" I know 3/4 of those terms and my husband was in the
NAVY FFS. Remember the USS Enterprise cruise patch? :)
Mrs. Ken Ehrett
<Frank_...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>>Let me take a stab at this QUIZ
>>Arc Light,
>
>B-52 Bombing Missions.
More "boom, boom!" than " Ranch Hand " .
>> Blooper,
>
>M-79 Grenade Launcher.
A Blooper technically is a device which shoots a 40 mm grenade. M16's
are also fitted with bloopers.
>> WP, White Phospher?
>
>Correct!
Aka " Willy Pete" , " Willy Peter".
>> Puff The Magic Dragon, Air Force Aircraft with Vulcan and 105 mm
>>howister?
>
>That came later. This was the earlier version using 20mm guns.
Prior to the AC-130's? That was the AC 47.
>> CS, Another type of tear gas?
>
>Correct!
CS is specifically a choking agent form of tear gas; highly potent,
military variant, and far worse than your local PD's tear gas.
>>Bouncing Betty...
>
>An anti-personnel mine that would pop up from the ground and explode about waist
>high.
Russian made. When triggered it throws a grenade up into the air
where it detonates, by design at crotch level.
John Wesley
Pirat...@aol.com says...
> John Wesley whines:
>
> << I'm racist. I hate Pirates >>
>
>
> You also hate Hispanics, Jews, blacks, and Moslems.
>
>
Only if they are Pirates!
> I've read enough
> of your posts to know that you are just some knuckle-dragging retard.
Actually thats what everyone is saying about you!
PirateJohn
> of your posts to know that you are just some knuckle-dragging retard.
Actually thats what everyone is saying about you! >>
Oh, I doubt that. But it's funny, because I don't really care what
racist like you think. You are all low IQ, subhuman morons. Who gives
a shit what fuck ups like you think?
Frank Jose
down from MissiPie Saturday and shoot the breeze and tell lies. I haven't seen
him since the 'Nam, 39 years ago. He was one of our replacements when our
platoon got down to 7. He was the best grenadier that our platoon ever had.
In article <0funu1ddo8fm44o03...@4ax.com>, Mrs. Ken Ehrett says...
John Wesley
Pirat...@aol.com says...
Mrs. Ken Ehrett
<Frank_...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>You and yours picked up any new "hardware" lately?
Not unless you count the second Coonan my husband picked up about 6
months ago.
> Hey, a close buddy is coming down from MissiPie Saturday and shoot the breeze and tell lies. I >haven't seen him since the 'Nam, 39 years ago. He was one of our replacements when our
>platoon got down to 7. He was the best grenadier that our platoon ever had.
You two have a great time. If you haven't been to DC to see the
Vietnam War Memorial, try to schedule a visit up here to see it. The
experience is moving beyond words.
Thanks to you both for your service.
Ingrid56
news:d7kpu19lbau6igqg9...@4ax.com
> On 9 Feb 2006 19:26:20 -0800, Frank "Jose" Albritton
> <Frank_...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>
>> You and yours picked up any new "hardware" lately?
>
> Not unless you count the second Coonan my husband picked up about 6
> months ago.
>
>> Hey, a close buddy is coming down from MissiPie Saturday and shoot
>> the
>> breeze and tell lies. I >haven't seen him since the 'Nam, 39 years
>> ago. He was one of our replacements when our platoon got down to
>> 7.
>> He was the best grenadier that our platoon ever had.
>
> You two have a great time. If you haven't been to DC to see the
> Vietnam War Memorial, try to schedule a visit up here to see it.
> The
> experience is moving beyond words.
>
> Thanks to you both for your service.
Sarah, I've been watching for you. My wife and I are planning to get
our first gun(s) for household/personal protection. She wants to get
a SM Lady Smith 3913. Any opinions on this gun?
Thanks,
Jack
Mrs. Ken Ehrett
Hi Jack,
Has your wife ever shot or handled a Lady Smith? I handled one and
knew immediately it didn't fit my hand and grip well. My first
handgun was a S&W 640 revolver in SS with shrouded hammer. I sent it
to Magna Port to have the trigger tuned, and the barrel ported. I
like this gun a lot because it's an aim and shoot weapon. No need to
mess with a safety when you're in a panic. The only disadvantage if
you could call it that is it has 5 rounds. I shoot +p 38 cal loads
with no problem. The 640 is a .357 cal gun but the recoil on a .357
slug is very nasty in a small frame revolver.
http://makeashorterlink.com/?O19621E9C
My personal favorite for a handgun is my HK 40 cal compact. I've
liked every HK I've ever shot, including the full size USP .45. I
have a smallish hand, size 6 in gloves, and can shoot both the .45 and
.40 compact with ease. I decided on the compact because it's more
concealable than the USP .45, but it still shoots 10 rounds. You are
now supposed to be able to buy 13 round mag for the .40 compact, or so
every gun dealer claims, but no one ever has them in stock. But
that's another story. The recoil on both HK's are about equal - the
smaller caliber 40 recoil is off set by the recoil of the .45 in a
larger frame.
Don't know if that's been helpful, Jack. The best thing is for you
both to go and try out the gun(s) at a gun dealer. Your wife may find
the Lady Smith to be too small or like many women she may love it.
Then get on a range and practice, practice, practice.
Remember gun safety.
But.....the real answer to your question is : Best gun for home
protection is a shotgun. Rack in a slug and most criminals will head
for the door. And if you're forced to use it, you won't miss at
close ranges in a home invasion.
Let me know if you have any other questions.
Regards, Sarah
Mrs. Ken Ehrett
<nine...@cox.net> wrote:
>You are now supposed to be able to buy 13 round mag for the .40 compact, or so
>every gun dealer claims, but no one ever has them in stock. But that's another story.
Oops. That should be 12 round mags for the .40 Compact. I think the
13 rounders are for the 9mm which I'm also looking to buy as my next
gun. Haven't decided on an HK 9 mm or a Baretta 92F. I'm going to
try both when the weather warms up a bit more. :)
Hoodoo
wrote:
From: "PirateJohn" <Pirat...@aol.com>
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
Subject: Re: Karen Anderson, stalking again
Date: 10 Feb 2006 09:45:22 -0800
Message-ID: <1139593522.5...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.253.112.18
><< For the love of God, *please* stop this shit, PJ. I do not use
>kill-filters, but you are coming close to making me start. >>
>
>I apologize. I was just soooooooo tempted because "Sandy" there was
>just so obviously a troll.
>
>
><< On the bright side, after losing my breakfast I'm hungry for
>lunch... >>
>
>Makes more room for beer. I'll buy ya one to make up for the loss of
>your breakfast ;)
Make DAMN SURE that you do not touch ANTHING that "PigSty Pirate John"
Wesley Gilmer III previously touched unless you wish to purchase a
copious amount of bleach to cleanse everything you own afterward!
Along with the shady financial dealings of "PigSty Pirate John" Wesley
Gilmer III, he wishes to cover up the fact that he recently contracted
ANOTHER communicable disease, viral/aseptic meningitis, via his lack
of hygiene by saying he caught it from a "bug bite". He wishes to
alter the fact that the word "aseptic" refers to hygiene, not "bugs".
Here, in his own words, is his inability to understand the concept of
"hygiene":
From: <Pirat...@aol.com>
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: More Bad News...
>>There's been an outbreak of clamydia <spelling? around
>>here and, uh... it ain't hard to catch.
>I wear contacts. I take my contacts in and out with my
>fingers. My fingers touch Mr. Happy when I use the facilities
~~~
In AB...@yahoogroups.com, PirateJohn@a... wrote:
Hey folks --
I'm sorry that I couldn't make it to the meeting last night. I'm
afraid that I've come down with a nasty case of viral meningitis
------------
How can Viral ("aseptic") meningitis be prevented?
Pay careful attention to personal hygiene -- Handwashing helps prevent
infection with many of the viruses that can cause viral meningitis.
Wash hands with soap and warm water after using the toilet, after
changing diapers
Adhering to good personal hygiene can help to reduce your chances of
becoming infected. If you are in contact with someone who has viral
meningitis, the most effective method of prevention is to wash your
hands thoroughly and often (see “Handwashing” in: “An Ounce of
Prevention: Keeps the Germs Away” at
http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/op/handwashing.htm). Also, cleaning
contaminated surfaces and soiled articles first with soap and water,
and then disinfecting them with a dilute solution of
chlorine-containing bleach (made by mixing approximately ¼ cup of
bleach with 1 gallon of water) can be a very effective way to
inactivate the virus. (See more about cleaning and disinfecting in
general at http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/op/cleaning.htm).
~~~
I'm smarter, bigger, stronger, and a lot meaner than you are.
You also won't be the first person that I didn't like who I
had to kill. Legally. -- john wesley gilmer III
john wesley gilmer III is, of course, "el Presidente,
Atlantic Beach Vintage Motorcycle Club, www.ABVMC.com"
<1124981825.1...@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Jose
;)
Mrs. Ken Ehrett
<harry....@gmail.com> wrote:
>I'd recommend a Glock 26 for small hands. Simplest, most reliable,
>accurate right out of the box, mag holds 12. I prefer A G34, but I have
>big hands.
Harry,
I've never liked a Glock especially for a novice. IMO the trigger is
too sensitive and it's too easy to shoot someone else or yourself as
several Police officers did back in the 90's. I've never had a Glock
because of the tricky trigger. But as we both know you have to be
comfortable with the gun you have and Jack and his wife might love the
feel of a Glock. :)
Btw, I'm living down in MD now, Mechanicsville. Quite a difference
from Rhode Island, in many respects. :)
Sarah
Mrs. Ken Ehrett
wrote:
>Sounds like we are all going to wind up suggesting our favorite pistols
>;)
Well....? What's yours? :)
Ingrid56
No gun at all. She feels it's time we face the threat from a former
friend who has an escalating vendetta against her.
I handled one and
> knew immediately it didn't fit my hand and grip well.
What I read is just the opposite with women. They like how it fits
their hand, for one thing.
My first
> handgun was a S&W 640 revolver in SS with shrouded hammer. I sent
> it
> to Magna Port to have the trigger tuned, and the barrel ported. I
> like this gun a lot because it's an aim and shoot weapon. No need
> to
> mess with a safety when you're in a panic. The only disadvantage if
> you could call it that is it has 5 rounds. I shoot +p 38 cal loads
> with no problem. The 640 is a .357 cal gun but the recoil on a .357
> slug is very nasty in a small frame revolver.
Recoil is what we are considering as a negative. Possibly this gun
will only have to be fired once for the purpose we have. When word
gets around about her new purchase, he might have enough sanity left
to control himself. Can't count on that, tho. Cops can't do anything
till he's "committed a crime". We aren't going to wait for that. The
gun will be ready for him if he makes the wrong choice. I think we
are still entitled to defend ourselves and our lives, aren't we?
> http://makeashorterlink.com/?O19621E9C
>
> My personal favorite for a handgun is my HK 40 cal compact. I've
> liked every HK I've ever shot, including the full size USP .45. I
> have a smallish hand, size 6 in gloves,
6? My wife's hand is size 8.5 or 9.
and can shoot both the .45 and
> .40 compact with ease. I decided on the compact because it's more
> concealable than the USP .45, but it still shoots 10 rounds. You
> are
> now supposed to be able to buy 13 round mag for the .40 compact, or
> so
> every gun dealer claims, but no one ever has them in stock. But
> that's another story. The recoil on both HK's are about equal -
> the
> smaller caliber 40 recoil is off set by the recoil of the .45 in a
> larger frame.
>
> Don't know if that's been helpful, Jack.
Very helpful. Thank you. I will look up info and pictures of your
favorite gun. Don't want to go to the gun dealer without doing some
kind of homework first.
The best thing is for you
> both to go and try out the gun(s) at a gun dealer. Your wife may
> find
> the Lady Smith to be too small or like many women she may love it.
Good advice.
>
> Then get on a range and practice, practice, practice.
>
> Remember gun safety.
Seems a shame to have to do all this practicing for the sake of some
threatening POS that nature should just take out because he doesn't
deserve to live. Unfortunately, life doesn't work that way and as we
get older, there are more predators out there all the time who see the
elderly, women and children as easy prey. So maybe it's just time for
us to get a gun and some confidence in using it if necessary.
> But.....the real answer to your question is : Best gun for home
> protection is a shotgun.
You know, that was my first choice because of something I'd read from
you or somebody. It's a great weapon to have by the door in the home.
Rack in a slug and most criminals will head
> for the door.
The guy isn't a criminal. He used to be a friend, or so my wife
thought. By the time he becomes a criminal, she may be dead.
And if you're forced to use it, you won't miss at
> close ranges in a home invasion.
That was my thought. Not a lot of aiming involved. Just fire and
he's bound to get hit enough to get his attention. Buck shot? Bird
shot?
> Let me know if you have any other questions.
Thanks. I can't figure out why a tiny little woman like you would be
a gun expert, but you appear to be from the way you throw around
statistics and information. Have you ever had to shoot someone or
show him your weapon? Maybe you don't want to admit to any of that
publicly. Sorry for asking.
Jack
Pirate John
Mr. Happy, but it only shoots blanks... I was thinking about getting the H&R
Viagra with rubber grips...
Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer
Sounds like we are all going to wind up suggesting our favorite pistols.
______________________________________
Nobody asked you for your comments. STFU!
Billy's Daddy
getting the H&R
Viagra with rubber grips... >>
Naw, that would be the one that "Frank" or Cmelak, the Hoodoo Troll,
would buy. No doubt with white vinyl handgrips and the rest enameled
in pink. Neither one of those clowns can get it up. Hell,
Cmelak/Hoodoo hasn't had a date for 20 years, and "Frank," Karen
Anderson's aliases, is addicted to phone sex.
Mrs. Ken Ehrett
<ingr...@netzeroNOSPAM.net> wrote:
>"Mrs. Ken Ehrett" <nine...@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:pdopu1prvttkec4st...@4ax.com
>> On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 18:06:01 GMT, "Ingrid56"
>> <ingr...@netzeroNOSPAM.net> wrote:
>>
>>> "Mrs. Ken Ehrett" <nine...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>> news:d7kpu19lbau6igqg9...@4ax.com
>>>> On 9 Feb 2006 19:26:20 -0800, Frank "Jose" Albritton
>>>> <Frank_...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>> Sarah, I've been watching for you. My wife and I are planning to
>>> get
>>> our first gun(s) for household/personal protection. She wants to
>>> get
>>> a SM Lady Smith 3913. Any opinions on this gun?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jack
>>
>> Hi Jack,
>>
>> Has your wife ever shot or handled a Lady Smith?
>
>No gun at all. She feels it's time we face the threat from a former
>friend who has an escalating vendetta against her.
Well to be honest my first thought was to get a restraining order
against him but I realize that's not always an easy thing to get.
> I handled one and
>> knew immediately it didn't fit my hand and grip well.
>
>What I read is just the opposite with women. They like how it fits
>their hand, for one thing.
>>My first handgun was a S&W 640 revolver in SS with shrouded hammer. I sent
>> it to Magna Port to have the trigger tuned, and the barrel ported. I
>> like this gun a lot because it's an aim and shoot weapon. No need
>> to mess with a safety when you're in a panic. The only disadvantage if
>> you could call it that is it has 5 rounds. I shoot +p 38 cal loads
>> with no problem. The 640 is a .357 cal gun but the recoil on a .357
>> slug is very nasty in a small frame revolver.
>
>Recoil is what we are considering as a negative. Possibly this gun
>will only have to be fired once for the purpose we have.
If recoil is what you're worried about you need a heavier gun than a
Ladies Smith. It goes without saying the lighter the gun the heavier
the recoil, and your wife needs to practice with any gun in order to
become efficient enough to aim and fire it accurately enough.
>When word gets around about her new purchase, he might have enough sanity left
>to control himself. Can't count on that, tho. Cops can't do anything
>till he's "committed a crime". We aren't going to wait for that. The
>gun will be ready for him if he makes the wrong choice. I think we
>are still entitled to defend ourselves and our lives, aren't we?
That depends on your local laws.
>> http://makeashorterlink.com/?O19621E9C
>>
>> My personal favorite for a handgun is my HK 40 cal compact. I've
>> liked every HK I've ever shot, including the full size USP .45. I
>> have a smallish hand, size 6 in gloves,
>
>6? My wife's hand is size 8.5 or 9.
:)
>>and can shoot both the .45 and
>> .40 compact with ease. I decided on the compact because it's more
>> concealable than the USP .45, but it still shoots 10 rounds. You
>> are now supposed to be able to buy 13 round mag for the .40 compact, or
>> so every gun dealer claims, but no one ever has them in stock. But
>> that's another story. The recoil on both HK's are about equal -
>> the smaller caliber 40 recoil is off set by the recoil of the .45 in a
>> larger frame.
>>
>> Don't know if that's been helpful, Jack.
>
>Very helpful. Thank you. I will look up info and pictures of your
>favorite gun. Don't want to go to the gun dealer without doing some
>kind of homework first.
Doing one's homework is always the best option but don't necessarily
get your hearts set on any one gun. When I bought my S&W 640 I had
every intention of buying the Lady Smith. Found a dealer who was
honest with me and what I was looking for and I chose the 640 instead.
>> The best thing is for you both to go and try out the gun(s) at a gun dealer.
>>Your wife may find the Lady Smith to be too small or like many women she may love it.
>
>Good advice.
>
>>
>> Then get on a range and practice, practice, practice.
>>
>> Remember gun safety.
>
>Seems a shame to have to do all this practicing for the sake of some
>threatening POS that nature should just take out because he doesn't
>deserve to live. Unfortunately, life doesn't work that way and as we
>get older, there are more predators out there all the time who see the
>elderly, women and children as easy prey. So maybe it's just time for
>us to get a gun and some confidence in using it if necessary.
Hey if nothing else look at it as a learning experience. Knowing
how to shoot and doing it well is a skill. It doesn't mean you're a
crazed maniac. And if you ever need to use a weapon to defend
yourself you aren't going to be a victim.
>> But.....the real answer to your question is : Best gun for home
>> protection is a shotgun.
>
>You know, that was my first choice because of something I'd read from
>you or somebody. It's a great weapon to have by the door in the home.
>>Rack in a slug and most criminals will head for the door.
>
>The guy isn't a criminal. He used to be a friend, or so my wife
>thought. By the time he becomes a criminal, she may be dead.
Well, you're right to do what you can to protect yourself and your
family. Too often as you say the Police either can't or won't
protect you in time.
>> And if you're forced to use it, you won't miss at
>> close ranges in a home invasion.
>
>That was my thought. Not a lot of aiming involved. Just fire and
>he's bound to get hit enough to get his attention. Buck shot? Bird
>shot?
Ok, I had to ask Ken about this as shotguns aren't my forte.
He says and this is a quote: " You need to use #4 shot in home
defense. Buck shot is too powerful and will punch through your wall
as well as the criminal. Plus the recoil is " horrendous" and I doubt
that his wife could handle it. The recoil on a 12 gauge with 00 buck
shot is severe. Bird shot is not powerful enough and may not do the
job.
>> Let me know if you have any other questions.
>
>Thanks. I can't figure out why a tiny little woman like you would be
>a gun expert, but you appear to be from the way you throw around
>statistics and information. Have you ever had to shoot someone or
>show him your weapon? Maybe you don't want to admit to any of that
>publicly. Sorry for asking.
It's fine to ask Jack. My husband is former military [ US Navy ] and
a former Federal Marshal. While I have never had to show or shoot in
anger, he has while in the Marshal Service. He's taught me a lot
about firearms over the years and target shooting is something we
enjoy doing together. While I enjoy shooting handguns my real
interest lies in long range rifles. Someday I'd like to get a nice
bolt action sniper rifle. :)
Regards, Sarah
>Jack
>
Mrs. Ken Ehrett
<harry....@gmail.com> wrote:
>Mechanicsville? I know where that is. What are you doing there? Have you
>fallen in with the Amish?
Hahaha! Yep. They have a couple of great Amish Markets right down
the road from me. I'm here because I got remarried and my second
husband works in DC.
Aren't you in Ann Arundal county?
>I don't find the Glock trigger "too sensitive." But I'm always aware
>that the pistol will fire instantly if you pull back on the trigger. No
>"confusing" safety...is it ON...is it OFF? Answer: it isn't there.
Ingrid56
> Harry,
>
> I've never liked a Glock especially for a novice. IMO the trigger
> is
> too sensitive and it's too easy to shoot someone else or yourself as
> several Police officers did back in the 90's. I've never had a
> Glock
> because of the tricky trigger. But as we both know you have to be
> comfortable with the gun you have and Jack and his wife might love
> the
> feel of a Glock. :)
Neither of us novices is interested in a "tricky trigger". No need
for any kind of "hair trigger" reaction with this particular person.
This gun isn't going to be used a lot and the "feel" of it isn't as
important as it not being overly sensitive or having a huge recoil. I
did like the appearance of your S&W 640 revolver. Looks like it would
really fit a hand.
Jack
Mrs. Ken Ehrett
The 640 is an excellent revolver. It's always fit my hand perfectly.
As far as recoil is concerned the HK 40 has less recoil [ to my
feeling at least] and is less noisy than the 640.
>Jack
>
Ingrid56
>
> Well to be honest my first thought was to get a restraining order
> against him but I realize that's not always an easy thing to get.
He's in another state. We wouldn't even try to go that route in his
case. When he shows up at our home, no restraining order will be
effective.
> If recoil is what you're worried about you need a heavier gun than a
> Ladies Smith. It goes without saying the lighter the gun the
> heavier
> the recoil, and your wife needs to practice with any gun in order to
> become efficient enough to aim and fire it accurately enough.
Ok. I didn't think the LS had a lot of recoil. A lot to learn and
remember. Yes, reluctantly, we are both going to have to practice a
lot to build some skill and confidence.
>> When word gets around about her new purchase, he might have enough
>> sanity left to control himself. Can't count on that, tho. Cops
>> can't
>> do anything
>> till he's "committed a crime". We aren't going to wait for that.
>> The
>> gun will be ready for him if he makes the wrong choice. I think we
>> are still entitled to defend ourselves and our lives, aren't we?
>
> That depends on your local laws.
Hopefully, the gun dealer we see will have information about them. I
don't care to talk to the cops as they never want people to "take the
law into their own hands". If need be, it will be shoot first and
answer questions later.
Haven't. That's why the original question to you about the Lady
Smith.
When I bought my S&W 640 I had
> every intention of buying the Lady Smith.
Really? Then you were the right one to start this conversation with.
Found a dealer who was
> honest with me and what I was looking for and I chose the 640
> instead.
Don't know what you were looking for, but we will certainly keep the
640 in mind and investigate it as well as the Lady Smith.
>
>>> The best thing is for you both to go and try out the gun(s) at a
>>> gun
>>> dealer.
>>> Your wife may find the Lady Smith to be too small or like many
>>> women
>>> she may love it.
>>
>> Good advice.
>>
>>>
>>> Then get on a range and practice, practice, practice.
>>>
>>> Remember gun safety.
>>
>> Seems a shame to have to do all this practicing for the sake of
>> some
>> threatening POS that nature should just take out because he doesn't
>> deserve to live. Unfortunately, life doesn't work that way and as
>> we
>> get older, there are more predators out there all the time who see
>> the
>> elderly, women and children as easy prey. So maybe it's just time
>> for
>> us to get a gun and some confidence in using it if necessary.
>
> Hey if nothing else look at it as a learning experience. Knowing
> how to shoot and doing it well is a skill. It doesn't mean you're
> a
> crazed maniac. And if you ever need to use a weapon to defend
> yourself you aren't going to be a victim.
Exactly how I see this. Maybe it's time for us to look into having a
gun and being able to use it reasonably well. Hopefully, we never
will have to actually use it, but better to be somewhat prepared than
just sitting ducks living in fear. This person might actually be a
wake-up call for us.
>
>
>>> But.....the real answer to your question is : Best gun for home
>>> protection is a shotgun.
>>
>> You know, that was my first choice because of something I'd read
>> from
>> you or somebody. It's a great weapon to have by the door in the
>> home.
>
>>> Rack in a slug and most criminals will head for the door.
>>
>> The guy isn't a criminal. He used to be a friend, or so my wife
>> thought. By the time he becomes a criminal, she may be dead.
>
> Well, you're right to do what you can to protect yourself and your
> family. Too often as you say the Police either can't or won't
> protect you in time.
I do understand that they can't act much on "threats". And it's hard
to sort out who is telling the truth to begin with. But when someone
physically acts out, then they can actually do something. And they
are very busy and there are priorities. I'm looking at this as a kind
of "crime prevention". We hope to somehow prevent him from committing
the crime of hurting my wife. I would rather neither of us not have
to actually shoot the gun But if it comes to her or him, he's gonna
get some body part hurt bad. Guess he'll find out which one it is if
he doesn't change his ways. Oh, and he has at least one gun that he
carries with him. I think we should at least level the playing field.
>
>>> And if you're forced to use it, you won't miss at
>>> close ranges in a home invasion.
>>
>> That was my thought. Not a lot of aiming involved. Just fire and
>> he's bound to get hit enough to get his attention. Buck shot?
>> Bird
>> shot?
>
> Ok, I had to ask Ken about this as shotguns aren't my forte.
>
> He says and this is a quote: " You need to use #4 shot in home
> defense. Buck shot is too powerful and will punch through your
> wall
> as well as the criminal. Plus the recoil is " horrendous" and I
> doubt
> that his wife could handle it. The recoil on a 12 gauge with 00
> buck
> shot is severe. Bird shot is not powerful enough and may not do
> the
> job.
More good advice. I will remember #4. Thanks.
>
>
>>> Let me know if you have any other questions.
>>
>> Thanks. I can't figure out why a tiny little woman like you would
>> be
>> a gun expert, but you appear to be from the way you throw around
>> statistics and information. Have you ever had to shoot someone or
>> show him your weapon? Maybe you don't want to admit to any of that
>> publicly. Sorry for asking.
>
> It's fine to ask Jack. My husband is former military [ US Navy ]
> and
> a former Federal Marshal. While I have never had to show or shoot
> in
> anger, he has while in the Marshal Service. He's taught me a lot
> about firearms over the years and target shooting is something we
> enjoy doing together. While I enjoy shooting handguns my real
> interest lies in long range rifles. Someday I'd like to get a nice
> bolt action sniper rifle. :)
Very interesting. I'm impressed. Thank you again, Sarah <what
happened to Czeipl?>
Jack
Ingrid56
news:8uhqu1llucmsoavvj...@4ax.com
Can I find a picture of the HK 40 at the site you provided in another
post? I found the 640 and the Lady Smith there. Maybe I overlooked
the HK 40 or this isn't a SW gun?
Jack
Frank Albritton
The best self defense weapon is the one that's in your hand, loaded. <grin>
But, you've touched upon my joy - sniper rifles. I was a sniper during my
second tour in Vietnam and I now have a bolt action rifle with the exact same
type of scope that I used back then - a 3X9 Redfield - Made in USA! Of course
it's not the best scope made nowadays but nostalgia caused me to buy it. I use
it on a WWII military rifle. There are some nice military bolt actions that can
be picked up at reasonable prices. As you know, you'll want one in the 30 cal.
range if you want the round to have a decent punch at a half mile or so.
Sniping is like bicycle riding; once you learn - you never forget. I know
folks scoff at bolt actions these days but one shot does the job. Why waste
additional ammo shooting a corpse?
Mrs. Ken Ehrett
<harry....@gmail.com> wrote:
>Mrs. Ken Ehrett wrote:
>> Aren't you in Ann Arundal county?
>
>
>Indeed.
Ah, good to know my memory hasn't gone on me yet. :)
Mrs. Ken Ehrett
Sorry Jack. The HK 40 is made by Heckler and Koch.
http://www.hkpro.com/uspc.htm
The third image down with the two pistols....mine is the top model
with the stainless slide. I also have Trition sights and a Surefire
style flashlight rail mounted on the receiver.
Here is a quick and dirty picture.
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/2875/hk40cal0mn.jpg
Mrs. Ken Ehrett
<ingr...@netzeroNOSPAM.net> wrote:
>Very interesting. I'm impressed. Thank you again, Sarah <what
>happened to Czeipl?>
>
>Jack
>
If you're asking if I shot him the answer is no. :)
Mrs. Ken Ehrett
On 10 Feb 2006 18:27:13 -0800, Frank Albritton
<Frank_...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>In article <3edqu11lvugc46v7v...@4ax.com>, Mrs. Ken Ehrett says...
>>It's fine to ask Jack. My husband is former military [ US Navy ] and
>>a former Federal Marshal. While I have never had to show or shoot in
>>anger, he has while in the Marshal Service. He's taught me a lot
>>about firearms over the years and target shooting is something we
>>enjoy doing together. While I enjoy shooting handguns my real
>>interest lies in long range rifles. Someday I'd like to get a nice
>>bolt action sniper rifle. :)
>
>The best self defense weapon is the one that's in your hand, loaded. <grin>
>
>But, you've touched upon my joy - sniper rifles. I was a sniper during my
>second tour in Vietnam and I now have a bolt action rifle with the exact same
>type of scope that I used back then - a 3X9 Redfield - Made in USA! Of course
>it's not the best scope made nowadays but nostalgia caused me to buy it. I use
>it on a WWII military rifle. There are some nice military bolt actions that can
>be picked up at reasonable prices. As you know, you'll want one in the 30 cal.
>range if you want the round to have a decent punch at a half mile or so.
>Sniping is like bicycle riding; once you learn - you never forget. I know
>folks scoff at bolt actions these days but one shot does the job.
Hi Frank,
I'm going to a gun show next weekend. I know a 30 cal would be
better for the long distances you were used to dealing with but I'd
like to stick with a .223 if possible. Using a .30 is going to chew
up my shoulder pretty quickly so I'll have to go for shorter
distances. Can you recommend anything in a .223? How about a
Remington?
> Why waste additional ammo shooting a corpse?
:) I read this today on a newsgroup. Someone has it as a sig
file. I think you'll appreciate it.
- - - -
December 9, 2005 (CNN) While interviewing an anonymous
US Special Forces soldier, a Reuters News agent asked
the soldier what he felt when sniping members of Al Quaeda
in Afghanistan.
The soldier shrugged and replied, "Recoil." (Possible Urban Legend)
Ingrid56
Har Har . . . (were you thinking of shooting him?)
You posted as Sarah Czeipl (she wasn't as nice as you are, tho).
Jack
Ingrid56
I also have Trition sights and a Surefire
> style flashlight rail mounted on the receiver.
>
> Here is a quick and dirty picture.
> http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/2875/hk40cal0mn.jpg
Is that the flashlight? You blind a guy and then you shoot him? That
might be just what we are looking for. <grin>
Jack
GeekBoy
"Harry Krause" <harry....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Mrs. Ken Ehrett wrote:
>> On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 13:59:46 -0500, Mrs. Ken Ehrett
>> <nine...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>> You are now supposed to be able to buy 13 round mag for the .40 compact,
>>> or so
>>> every gun dealer claims, but no one ever has them in stock. But that's
>>> another story.
>>
>> 13 rounders are for the 9mm which I'm also looking to buy as my next
>> gun. Haven't decided on an HK 9 mm or a Baretta 92F. I'm going to
>> try both when the weather warms up a bit more. :)
>
>
> I'd recommend a Glock 26 for small hands. Simplest, most reliable,
> accurate right out of the box, mag holds 12. I prefer A G34, but I have
> big hands.
I see Harry KKKrause is still around. I thought everyone plonked you, got
angry and went Syria to get more plonked.
Guy Good
And Geekboy there is just another inbred racist like the Graphic Cunt.
So Boy, what sewer did you crawl out of, you piece of shit? Still
advocating violence against Hispanics, blacks and Jews?
Frank Albritton
Remington 700. Just don't go for the LTR version though. Remember, the M-16
and the many military and civilian variants have a buffer in the stock which
reduces the recoil. Plus the semi-auto or auto action reduces even more recoil.
If you haven't shot the bolt action, then you should try it before you buy it,
because it will have more shoulder punch, however you can pad your shoulder.
Even though the .223 is extremely accurate, wind will cause it to drift
considerably over long distances. (don't shoot on a windy day)
I was able to consistently hit targets at 500 meters (albeit large targets) with
iron sights with the M-16. With a scope and a calm day there's no telling what
you could do, however the .223 over 300 yards is not an effective killing
weapon.
Buy a good scope and make sure it is mounted rock solid. Get good match grade
ammo.
Something you may not have thought of is the .17 caliber. I saw a guy shoot 3
shots at 100 yards and he covered the 3 holes with a cigarette butt!
>> Why waste additional ammo shooting a corpse?
>
> :) I read this today on a newsgroup. Someone has it as a sig
>file. I think you'll appreciate it.
>
>- - - -
>
>December 9, 2005 (CNN) While interviewing an anonymous
>US Special Forces soldier, a Reuters News agent asked
>the soldier what he felt when sniping members of Al Quaeda
>in Afghanistan.
>
>The soldier shrugged and replied, "Recoil." (Possible Urban Legend)
Ha! Yeah. I never bothered with confirmed kills. If the sucker went down and
didn't move - that was good enough for me.
BTW, I took my wife down to Sarasota today and we had a good meal at Yoder's
restaurant. It is Amish. Do the Amish have good restaurants where you live?
I had SOS for a late breakfast (they didn't call it that). You probably know
what that is but if you don't - ask anyone who's been in the US Armed Forces.
<grin>
Guy Good
went down and
didn't move - that was good enough for me. >>
Yeah "Frank." When you were preparing eggs in Washington for returning
servicemen, I'll bet that you got in a lot of sniper practice. You
wouldn't know what a Remington 700 looked like if one fell on you.
The "Frank" appreciation site, dedicated to the skanky old woman who
pretends to be this clown:
http://rattler-stomper.tripod.com/karen_anderson/
Frank Albritton
says...
>
><< Ha! Yeah. I never bothered with confirmed kills. If the sucker
>went down and
>didn't move - that was good enough for me. >>
>
>Yeah "Frank." When you were preparing eggs in Washington for returning
>servicemen, I'll bet that you got in a lot of sniper practice. You
>wouldn't know what a Remington 700 looked like if one fell on you.
The bottom line is that your life is so miserable that you would commit suicide
if you had the guts. You don't, so you taunt others to do the deed for you.
Good luck!
PirateJohn
commit suicide
if you had the guts. >>
ROFL!! Hey Karen ... I mean "Frank" ... I'm not so hard up that I'm
trolling people and resorting to being a phone sex artist in order to
raise a few dollars to supplement my retirement.
Get a fucking life, why don't you? Your bizarre behavior is what got
you locked up in the Funny Farm in the first place, and why you get
rejected by every guy that you even speak to. Yeck.
Hoodoo
<anon-b...@deuxpi.ca> wrote:
>Can we cross-dress????
>---------
>Why not? Your new friend John Gilmer (Beemer Biker) does.
>
>Check Google:
>Message-ID: <vro1374...@corp.supernews.com>
Yep, that's PirateJohn Gilmer alright.
This is a more direct link to the original message -
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sex.stories.gay/msg/6aaf8989b86b5483?dmode=source
And, the message itself -
Path:
archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!sn-xit-02!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-01!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail
From: PirateJohn <piratej...@aol.com>
Newsgroups: alt.sex.stories.gay
Subject: Gay Bikers
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:01:42 -0500
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Any Gay Bikers out there?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
PirateJ...@aol.com
Keeper of the Humour List at
http://members.aol.com/PirateJohn/pirate1.html
"Mother, mother ocean... I have heard your call" - Jimmy Buffett, A
Pirate
Looks At Forty.
Caltrops
Guy Good wrote:
From: Guy Good <Troll...@hush.com>
Newsgroups:
alt.fan.jimmy-buffett,alt.politics.immigration,alt.obituaries
Subject: Re: Gun for Personal/Home protection
Date: 11 Feb 2006 17:18:42 -0800
Message-ID: <1139707122....@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.129.77.189
> The "Frank" appreciation site, dedicated to the skanky old
woman who
> pretends to be this clown:
> http://rattler-stomper.tripod.com/karen_anderson/
>
That lame-ass webpage shows the full extent of your abilities and
is a sterling example of why your employer shit-canned your ass
from your self-appointed job title of "Data Manager" and took
your monkey-ass name off of the website altogether. The current
website presents something so beyond your juvenile abilities and
comparing it to anything associated with you shows how laughably
lame you are.
Moffitt Corporation
1351 13th Avenue South, Suite 130
Jacksonville Beach, FL 32250
http://www.moffitthvac.com/
As one of your own motorcycle pals exclaimed recently about your
website:
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 16:52:05 GMT
Message-ID: <logst151kl473r490...@4ax.com>
BE CAREFUL if you go there. If you right-click on the page a
pop-up says "Detected right click - click okay to reformat C:drive."
I did not click "OK," so I don't know what happens if you were to
do so. It was enough to scare me away.
-----------
The information below is verified data regarding the malicious
malcontent who hides behind dozens of aliases to flame, harass,
and infringe upon other people. It is unknown how many more
aliases the scumbag hides behind.
John Wesley Gilmer
12526 Agatite Road
Jacksonville Beach, Florida
(904)241-9944
Known and verified aliases:
pirat...@aol.com
buccan...@aol.com
"Nightmare" <your_worse...@mac.hush.com>
pirate...@aol.com
"Douggie" <Dougla...@hushmail.com>
Alcib...@hush.com
"Willy" <Hoo...@hush.com>
Yellow-Ey...@hushmail.com
rattler...@yahoo.com
"Scipio's roommate" <scipi...@yahoo.com>
"Ginger" <Ginger_...@yahoo.com>
"Floyd" <scipi...@yahoo.com>
Buccan...@aol.com
pirat...@aol.comNOSPAM
Pira...@aol.com
Bill Cmelak loves his Hoodoo <rattler...@yahoo.com>
Billy_Cme...@hushmail.com
"Bill Cmelak" Hoo...@hush.com
"Smelly Billy" <Hoo...@hush.com>
"Guy Good" <Troll...@hush.com>
matanza...@aol.com
pirat...@yahoo.com
warp...@aol.com
WarpT...@aol.com
TeamCo...@aol.com
JWGi...@aol.com
Troll...@hush.com
BillyRi...@aol.com
GodIsS...@aol.com
Mr....@aol.com
Fredd...@aol.com
Notice the "NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.177.232.245" data in each of
his message header examples below. He posted those messages via his
place of employment, Moffitt Corporation in Jacksonville Beach,
Florida. What a shit-hole that must be to allow an abject loser
like him post all manner of malicious and racist bullshit all day
long.
209.177.232.245 = Moffitt Corporation
Moffitt Corporation
1351 13th Avenue South, Suite 130
Jacksonville Beach, FL 32250
The messages whose headers are transmitted via "NNTP-Posting-Host:
24.129.77.189" are those he typicaly spews away from Moffitt
Corporation, usually from the house owned by his facilitating
girlfriend rather than that of his current wife.
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From: Troll...@hush.com
Newsgroups: alt.politics.immigration
Subject: Re: Experts: America Will Break Up Along Racial Lines
Date: 6 Dec 2005 15:28:12 -0800
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NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.177.232.245
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From: "Viper" <rattler...@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups: alt.mexico
Subject: Re: To: Mexico FUCK YOU (3RD WORLD TRASH COUNTRY)
Date: 6 Dec 2005 08:36:15 -0800
Message-ID: <1133886975.1...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.177.232.245
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From: Alcib...@hush.com
Newsgroups:
alt.politics.immigration,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.usa,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Anyone see the MSNBC special on Illegal Immigration?
Date: 29 Nov 2005 10:16:26 -0800
Message-ID: <1133288186.0...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.177.232.245
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From: "Douggie" <Dougla...@hushmail.com>
Newsgroups:
alt.politics.immigration,misc.survivalism,alt.politics.economics,alt.politics.bush
Subject: Re: A new Approach to Fighting Illegal Immigration?
Date: 2 Dec 2005 11:48:29 -0800
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From: Yellow-Ey...@hushmail.com
Newsgroups:
alt.politics.immigration,misc.survivalism,alt.religion.islam,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.liberalism
Subject: Re: It Ain't Easy Being a 19th-Century Bigot in 21st-Century
America
Date: 17 Nov 2005 12:46:49 -0800
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From: "Ginger" <Ginger_...@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups:
alt.politics.immigration,misc.survivalism,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.economics,nyc.politics
Subject: Re: My Protest at the New York Stock Exchange(illegal
immigration)
Date: 23 Nov 2005 11:55:33 -0800
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NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.177.232.245
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From: Jose <rattler...@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups: rec.boats.cruising
Subject: Re: I love brilliant women :)
Date: 25 Aug 2005 10:08:14 -0700
Message-ID: <1124989694.3...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>
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From: "PirateJohn" <pirate...@aol.com>
Newsgroups: alt.obituaries
Subject: Re: Another (dead soldier from Iraq War) family blasts Bush
Date: 17 Aug 2005 14:50:50 -0700
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From: PirateJohn <Pirat...@aol.com>
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley,rec.motorcycles
Subject: Poker run, Jacksonville, FL, to benefit radio DJ hit by
hit and run vehicle
Date: 23 Aug 2005 12:58:37 -0700
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From: "Juan" <buccan...@aol.com>
Newsgroups:
alt.politics.immigration,alt.obituaries,fl.general,alt.fan.jimmy-buffett
Subject: Re: The Gaspar/Anderson obsession
Date: 1 Aug 2005 08:25:30 -0700
Message-ID: <1122909930.5...@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.177.232.245
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From: "Billy's Daddy" <Billy_Cme...@hushmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.jimmy-buffett
Subject: Re: Report Abuse
Date: 17 Aug 2005 10:14:19 -0700
Message-ID: <1124298859.2...@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.177.232.245
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From: "Guy Good" <Troll...@hush.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Hoodoo wants you to know ...
Date: 12 Aug 2005 14:28:19 -0700
Message-ID: <1123882099.2...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.177.232.245
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From: "Scipio's roommate" <scipi...@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups: fl.general,alt.fan.frank-zappa,wi.general,alt.politics
Subject: William Cmelak -- fantasies about commiting a homosexual
rape
Date: 5 Dec 2005 03:03:47 -0800
Message-ID: <1133780627.5...@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.129.77.189
From: Alcib...@hush.com
Newsgroups:
alt.california,alt.politics.immigration,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,austin.general,dc.general
Subject: Re: Cowboys vs. Mexicans: Its Going To Be Good
Date: 27 Nov 2005 08:27:50 -0800
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NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.129.77.189
From: "Willy" <Hoo...@hush.com>
Newsgroups:
alt.california,alt.politics.immigration,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,austin.general,dc.general
Subject: Re: Cowboys vs. Mexicans: Its Going To Be Good
Date: 22 Nov 2005 19:26:40 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com
Message-ID: <1132716400....@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.129.77.189
From: PirateJohn <pirate...@aol.com>
Newsgroups:
alt.obituaries,alt.fan.frank-zappa,alt.fan.oj-simpson,alt.fan.jimmy-buffett
Subject: Re: Hey! Dumb Cmelak!
Date: 23 Aug 2005 19:32:21 -0700
Message-ID: <1124850741....@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.129.77.189
From: Billy's Daddy <Billy_Cme...@hushmail.com>
Newsgroups:
alt.fan.jimmy-buffett,alt.fan.frank-zappa,alt.fan.OJ-simpson
Subject: Re: Junk Motorcycle Still For Sale
Date: 22 Aug 2005 20:54:36 -0700
Message-ID: <1124769276.7...@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.129.77.189
From: "Jose" <rattler...@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Re: Hoodoo wants you to know ...
Date: 13 Aug 2005 07:50:56 -0700
Message-ID: <1123944656.0...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.129.77.189
From: "Smelly Billy" <Hoo...@hush.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: You pal Cmelak/Hoodoo is trolling other newsgroup again ...
Date: 7 Aug 2005 19:48:50 -0700
Message-ID: <1123469330....@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.129.77.189
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From: "Nightmare" <your_worse...@mac.hush.com>
Newsgroups:
alt.politics.immigration,talk.politics.misc,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.true-crime,misc.survivalism
Subject: Re: Illegal aliens here in North Carolina - the reality
Date: 12 Dec 2005 11:59:33 -0800
Message-ID: <1134417573.1...@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 172.159.127.118
Fuck all of you rednecks.
Oh wait. You asswipes are so poor that you haven't got a pot to piss
in but this kid was earning $40K a year.
You idjits have already been fucked!! Ain't that funny, Bubba?
ROFL!!
======================
From: pirat...@aol.comNOSPAM (PirateJohn)
Newsgroups: alt.obituaries
Date: 24 Dec 2003 16:51:46 GMT
Subject: Re: DEAD: Christmas Bonuses? What did you get?
Message-ID: <20031224115146...@mb-m01.aol.com>
... and a $30K soft loan from a friend
~~~
I'm smarter, bigger, stronger, and a lot meaner than you are.
You also won't be the first person that I didn't like who I
had to kill. Legally. -- john wesley gilmer III
john wesley gilmer III is, of course, "el Presidente,
Atlantic Beach Vintage Motorcycle Club, www.ABVMC.com"
<1124981825.1...@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Mrs. Ken Ehrett
<Frank_...@newsguy.com> wrote:
Thank you for the info, Frank. I've got a friend who owns a nice
bolt action rifle, don't know which, but I'll check and see if he'll
let me try it this spring. After that I'll look more seriously at
getting something for myself. You never know....someday I might give
you a run for your money. :)
Regards, Sarah
Frank Albritton
I'll bet you could. A hairy chest is not required - just patience, knowledge,
skill, a good rifle, and calm nerves.
Hoodoo
<harry....@gmail.com> CROSS-POSTED:
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 15:33:02 -0500
From: Harry the hypocrite KKKrause <harry....@gmail.com>
Newsgroups:
alt.fan.jimmy-buffett,alt.politics.immigration,alt.obituaries
Subject: Re: "Frank" the fake nym continues to make excuses
Message-ID: <XdmdnZ1NIdL...@comcast.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.250.80.154
>Mrs. Ken [facilitating cunt] Ehrett wrote:
>> On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 13:59:46 -0500, Mrs. Ken [facilitating cunt] Ehrett
>> <nine...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>> You are now supposed to be able to buy 13 round mag for the .40 compact, or so
>>> every gun dealer claims, but no one ever has them in stock. But that's another story.
>>
>> Oops. That should be 12 round mags for the .40 Compact. I think the
>> 13 rounders are for the 9mm which I'm also looking to buy as my next
>> gun. Haven't decided on an HK 9 mm or a Baretta 92F. I'm going to
>> try both when the weather warms up a bit more. :)
>I'd recommend a Glock 26 for small hands. Simplest, most reliable,
>accurate right out of the box, mag holds 12. I prefer A G34, but I have
>big hands.
Which goes against KKKrause's feelings for other gun owners and his
desire to circumvent gun laws in his state of residence.
Here's harry the hypocrite's own words:
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 12:59:54 -0500
From: Harry Krause <piedty...@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups: alt.obituaries
Subject: Re: Neal Knox, firearms rights activist
Message-ID: <VJKdnW0SUYqBe27cRVn-uA@comcast.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.49.4.184
...get rid of everyone who has a handgun AND the handguns, and
produce useful clothing.
-----------------------------------
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 10:23:57 -0500
From: Harry Krause <piedty...@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups: alt.obituaries
Subject: Re: More good news for the gun wankers
NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.49.4.184
I'm opposed to CCW, and I think guns and their owners should be
registered and licensed, with a license obtainable only after a
background check and a safety course.
-------------------------------
From: Harry Krause <piedty...@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: ISO "legal" six shooter for Maryland...
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:59:17 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: University of Maryland College Park
Message-ID: <cs1i7l$kuu$1...@grapevine.wam.umd.edu>
NNTP-Posting-Host: sniper.cs.umd.edu
I'm interested in buying my first handgun (I have a closet full
of shotguns), and what I want is a Ruger New Model Single Six
Hunter, model KNR7H, in stainless.
I want a new in the box pistola.
Problem is, I live in Maryland, and we have a state law that
makes legal purchase of this revolver a no-no, unless you
purchase one that was manufactured several years ago. Revolvers
manufacturer in, I believe, the last two years have to have an
integral lock on them. Ruger has not seen fit to re-engineer this
model to accommodate Maryalnd.
But it is legal, I understand, to buy a brand-new revolver if it
was manufactured prior to the "no lock, no sale" ban. What I
would have to do is find a a dealer either in Maryland or out of
state and arrange a legal sale. The out of state transaction
would be handled through a local holder of an FFL, I suppose.
Question is, how would I find out who has the model revolver I want?
Is there any sort of dealer cooperative where inventory lists are
available for perusal?
Thanks
--------------------------
What a fucking hypocrite!
harry KKKrause the hypocrite
~~~
John Wesley Gilmer
12526 Agatite Road
Jacksonville Beach, Florida
(904)241-9944
greg...@yahoo.com
Ingrid56 wrote:
> "Mrs. Ken Ehrett" <nine...@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:pdopu1prvttkec4st...@4ax.com
> > On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 18:06:01 GMT, "Ingrid56"
> > <ingr...@netzeroNOSPAM.net> wrote:
> >
> >> "Mrs. Ken Ehrett" <nine...@cox.net> wrote in message
> >> news:d7kpu19lbau6igqg9...@4ax.com
> >>> On 9 Feb 2006 19:26:20 -0800, Frank "Jose" Albritton
> >>> <Frank_...@newsguy.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >> Sarah, I've been watching for you. My wife and I are planning to
> >> get
> >> our first gun(s) for household/personal protection. She wants to
> >> get
> >> a SM Lady Smith 3913. Any opinions on this gun?
> >> Thanks,
> >> Jack
> >
> > Hi Jack,
> >
> > Has your wife ever shot or handled a Lady Smith?
>
> No gun at all. She feels it's time we face the threat from a former
> friend who has an escalating vendetta against her.
Angry about one event, or a recurring event. If the former, he'll burn
out. One can't stay that angry forever.
> I handled one and
> > knew immediately it didn't fit my hand and grip well.
>
> What I read is just the opposite with women. They like how it fits
> their hand, for one thing.
[...]
> Recoil is what we are considering as a negative. Possibly this gun
> will only have to be fired once for the purpose we have. When word
> gets around about her new purchase, he might have enough sanity left
> to control himself. Can't count on that, tho. Cops can't do anything
> till he's "committed a crime". We aren't going to wait for that. The
You don't have to wait. Get a restraining order. If he comes within
so many yards of you, boom, he's committed a crime. A few days in a
cell might calm him a bit. If he's an old boyfriend or husband, they
might even work it into some kind of DV charge, and make him get
therapy.
Btw, you really shouldn't make those sorts of statements. You sound
like you are waiting for an excuse to kill him. That wouldn't go well
in court.
> gun will be ready for him if he makes the wrong choice. I think we
> are still entitled to defend ourselves and our lives, aren't we?
Know the laws of your state very well before you use a gun. Making the
wrong assumption can hurt you.
Consider also that you don't have a gun, which means you probably
haven't been trained to use one. By training, I mean the serious
training you would get if you applied for a concealed-carry permit. If
you get this, you'll also learn the gun laws of your state.
I assume your state has concealed carry. If it doesn't, and you'll
just keep this at home, a shotgun is good.
For pistols, I like a 10 mm, because it has more stopping power than
the 9 mm, and it can hold more ammo than a 0.45. I like the double
actions, because you only get that long hard pull on the first shot,
and then the next shots are easier and more accurate. I'm not a big
Glock fan.
Consider a revolver also - less maintenance.
Before you get a gun, talk to a lawyer or a PI, and see if there's some
alternative to dealing with this man.
[...]
Hoodoo
this one discussion thread with three of his aliases.
If that doesn't define a troll, nothing does.
From: "Jose" <rattler...@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups:
alt.fan.jimmy-buffett,alt.politics.immigration,alt.obituaries
Subject: Re: "Frank" the fake nym continues to make excuses
Date: 10 Feb 2006 12:40:29 -0800
Message-ID: <1139604029....@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.253.112.18
From: "Billy's Daddy" <Billy_Cme...@hushmail.com>
Newsgroups:
alt.fan.jimmy-buffett,alt.politics.immigration,alt.obituaries
Subject: Re: "Frank" the fake nym continues to make excuses
Date: 10 Feb 2006 13:55:19 -0800
Message-ID: <1139608519.7...@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.253.112.18
From: "Guy Good" <Troll...@hush.com>
Newsgroups:
alt.fan.jimmy-buffett,alt.politics.immigration,alt.obituaries
Subject: Re: "Frank" the fake nym continues to make excuses
Date: 11 Feb 2006 13:34:59 -0800
Message-ID: <1139693699.0...@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.129.77.189
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The information below is verified data regarding the malicious
malcontent who hides behind dozens of aliases to flame, harass,
and infringe upon other people. It is unknown how many more
aliases the scumbag hides behind.
John Wesley Gilmer
12526 Agatite Road
Jacksonville Beach, Florida
(904)241-9944
Known and verified aliases:
pirat...@aol.com
buccan...@aol.com
Buccane...@aol.com
Upd...@BuccaneerPublishing.com
pirate...@aol.com
"Douggie" <Dougla...@hushmail.com>
Alcib...@hush.com
"Nightmare" <your_worse...@mac.hush.com>
"Willy" <Hoo...@hush.com>
Yellow-Ey...@hushmail.com
"Scipio's roommate" <scipi...@yahoo.com>
"Ginger" <Ginger_...@yahoo.com>
"Floyd" <scipi...@yahoo.com>
"Viper" <rattler...@yahoo.com>
"Jose" <rattler...@yahoo.com>
Bill Cmelak loves his Hoodoo <rattler...@yahoo.com>
Buccan...@aol.com
pirat...@aol.comNOSPAM
Pira...@aol.com
209.177.232.245 = Moffitt Corporation
24.129.77.189" are those he typically spews away from Moffitt
Corporation, usually from the house owned by his facilitating
girlfriend rather than that of his current wife.
The latest development is that "PirateJohn" Gilmer has posted a
few usenet messages within the past several weeks that originated
from the 216.253.112.18 domain which is registered to Venus
Medical Communications, 1351 13TH AVE S, JAXVILLE BCH, FL, 32250
which, not too surprisingly, a very close neighbor of Moffitt
Corporation whose address is 1351 13th Avenue South, Suite 130,
Jacksonville Beach, FL 32250!
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From: "Viper" <rattler...@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups: alt.politics.immigration
Subject: Re: Mexico offers other nations use of consulates in U.S.
Date: 30 Jan 2006 15:26:18 -0800
Message-ID: <1138663578....@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 172.130.230.56
From: "Nightmare" <your_worse...@mac.hush.com>
Newsgroups:
alt.politics.immigration,talk.politics.misc,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.true-crime,misc.survivalism
Subject: Re: Illegal aliens here in North Carolina - the reality
Date: 12 Dec 2005 11:59:33 -0800
Message-ID: <1134417573.1...@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 172.159.127.118
Fuck all of you rednecks.
Oh wait. You asswipes are so poor that you haven't got a pot to piss
in but this kid was earning $40K a year.
You idjits have already been fucked!! Ain't that funny, Bubba?
ROFL!!
~~~
"PigSty PirateJohn" Weasely Gilmer III
Alcib...@hush.com
As detailed at http://www.buccaneerpublishing.com/Cmelak.htm William
"Fat Bill" Cmelak of N9340 Pickerel Creek Rd
Pearson, WI 54462-8140 is the Hoodoo Troll (Hoo...@Spamcop.net, or more
acurately hiding behind a Frontiernet.net account for those of you who
want to complain about him) who also posts as Caltrops.
Fat, stupid, bisexual, with a mental health diagnosis of being a
psychopathic personality who is unable to control his rage, and an
avowed white supremacist, Cmelak lives a lonely existence in a dirty
mobile home in the woods that he has
difficulty heating in these days of high heating oil prices.
Cmelak has a history of writing about running over motorcyclists (as
posted in several motorcycling newsgroups warning of this idiot
"Pearson, WI man brags about running over motorcyclists -- "I
occasionally like to play games such as rolling up on them and scaring
them for the fuck-sake. It's funny sometimes how scared to death people
can look when suddenly seeing something they'd never expected.
Priceless! ")
Cmelak has also posted extensively about his desires to rape and murder
other men. A law enforcement officer described Cmelak as a "sick fuck."
Cmelak hid, presumably underneath his mobile home, for a month in
order to avoid being interviewed by the police.
A wannabe outdoorsman and "frugal living" enthusiast, Cmelak's cheap
lifestyle has been encouraged by a series of debts and resulting
lawsuits that he incurred in recent years (go to
http://wcca.wicourts.gov/ and search for "William Cmelak" for a
portion of his legal problems).
Ingrid56
news:1139859070.3...@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
> Ingrid56 wrote:
>> No gun at all. She feels it's time we face the threat from a
>> former
>> friend who has an escalating vendetta against her.
>
> Angry about one event, or a recurring event. If the former, he'll
> burn
> out. One can't stay that angry forever.
I wish I could explain more here. I'd best not to. But it is
recurring and ongoing and escalating.
>> I handled one and
>>> knew immediately it didn't fit my hand and grip well.
>>
>> What I read is just the opposite with women. They like how it fits
>> their hand, for one thing.
> [...]
>> Recoil is what we are considering as a negative. Possibly this gun
>> will only have to be fired once for the purpose we have. When word
>> gets around about her new purchase, he might have enough sanity
>> left
>> to control himself. Can't count on that, tho. Cops can't do
>> anything
>> till he's "committed a crime". We aren't going to wait for that.
>> The
>
> You don't have to wait. Get a restraining order. If he comes
> within
> so many yards of you, boom, he's committed a crime. A few days in a
> cell might calm him a bit. If he's an old boyfriend or husband,
> they
> might even work it into some kind of DV charge, and make him get
> therapy.
Out of the question. It's mainly an internet thing that is spilling
over into RL but not enough for a restraining order or the police
actually doing anything on his end or ours.
> Btw, you really shouldn't make those sorts of statements. You sound
> like you are waiting for an excuse to kill him. That wouldn't go
> well
> in court.
Well, if he shows up in our lives, that is the intention of getting a
gun. If I/we were looking for an excuse to kill him, we'd travel to
where he lives. There's a great amount of written evidence in Google
archives to present in "court".
>
>> gun will be ready for him if he makes the wrong choice. I think we
>> are still entitled to defend ourselves and our lives, aren't we?
>
> Know the laws of your state very well before you use a gun. Making
> the
> wrong assumption can hurt you.
>
> Consider also that you don't have a gun, which means you probably
> haven't been trained to use one. By training, I mean the serious
> training you would get if you applied for a concealed-carry permit.
> If
> you get this, you'll also learn the gun laws of your state.
I understand. We will have to go for gun training, but it doesn't
seem to me one needs a lot of target practice to point a shotgun at a
crazed person who has traveled far for the sole purpose of showing up
at our door.
> I assume your state has concealed carry. If it doesn't, and you'll
> just keep this at home, a shotgun is good.
That's what I think is best, too. However, we aren't hermits and
lose the protection of the shotgun as soon as we are away from home.
And he travels a lot and carries a pistol.
> For pistols, I like a 10 mm, because it has more stopping power than
> the 9 mm, and it can hold more ammo than a 0.45. I like the double
> actions, because you only get that long hard pull on the first shot,
> and then the next shots are easier and more accurate. I'm not a big
> Glock fan.
>
> Consider a revolver also - less maintenance.
>
> Before you get a gun, talk to a lawyer or a PI, and see if there's
> some
> alternative to dealing with this man.
He's sunk into madness and insanity. We've given up trying to "deal
with him" on any rational level.
Don't know who you are or what your credentials might be, but I'll
save your comments and consider them. Thanks, Greg.
Jack
myal
> I do wish this crap wasn't cross-posted to alt.fan.jimmy-buffett. It's
> off-topic and we don't want to hear about it.
>
> Please remove that group from your subsequent responses.
>
>
Yeah , OK
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