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Marina Sirtis is way too old!! She's gotta be approaching grandmotherhood.
Can't agree with this choice.
Monica Belucci, on the other hand, I agree with. Excellent choice. She
was stunning in Matrix Reloaded. Absolutely stunning.
My other recommendations for Bond girl:
Britney Spears
Christina Aguilera
Jessica Alba
Elisha Cuthbert
Mila Kunis
Of course, the above five nominees are considerably younger than Pierce.
Therefore I humbly offer my services as the next James Bond actor. Unlike
other potential candidates, I'm not worried at all about being typecast in
the role. Honestly, it's not an issue for me. Also, I'd be willing to take
a significant pay-cut from what Pierce is currently getting. In fact, recruit
any of the above listed Bond girls and I might even consider working for
scale. I'm just an e-mail away, EON. Think about it.
Sincerely,
Feeney. Mike Feeney.
If you're going to go with maturity, my pick would be Kristin Scott
Thomas...
jay
Marina is even twice as beautiful in person as she is on film --
really, she's absolutely breathtaking -- and I'm speaking as someone
who, several years ago, accidentally fondled one of her breasts.
(I'll be THAT will raise a few eyebrows, eh?)
43, actually.
>Monica Belucci, on the other hand, I agree with. Excellent choice. She
>was stunning in Matrix Reloaded. Absolutely stunning.
Absolutely -- she's amazing.
>My other recommendations for Bond girl:
>Britney Spears
>Christina Aguilera
>Jessica Alba
Egads, no -- to all three of them. Spears and Alba are way too young
-- and Aguilera is just too damn skanky.
>Elisha Cuthbert
>Mila Kunis
I don't know who they are, so I have no choice either wa.
> Marina is even twice as beautiful in person as she is on film --
> really, she's absolutely breathtaking -- and I'm speaking as someone
> who, several years ago, accidentally fondled one of her breasts.
> (I'll be THAT will raise a few eyebrows, eh?)
We've got to get you together with the guy who -- by invitation -- groped Claudia
Christian's butt at a Renn Faire in California.
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RunnerUnderFire runneru...@aol.com writes:
Monica Bellucci was criminally passed over for the Paris Carver
role in TOMORROW NEVER DIES. I've been championing both her
and former-husband Vincent Cassel for Bond girl and villain
for years.
Another woman to consider would be, IMO, Connie Nielsen.
--
~~Mac
"About the most originality that any writer can hope
to achieve honestly is to steal with good judgment."
-Josh Billings
She's another hot one -- and very nice in person. She loves the fans
-- though I never realized she invites them to touch her butt. I
should have asked when I met her. :)
Among other things, perhaps.
What if you're wrong?
'Can I touch your butt? Hey! Ow! You have strong bodyguards! Ow!'
LMAO!
Tom Zielinski
"Tell it to the concierge."
Only if you meet her when she's complaining about her butt at a Renn Faire. If you do,
point out that it seems fine to you, but you lack direct tactile evidence. That's what
worked for the Renn Faire guy. Don't blame me if she belts you, though!
Marina is my age - 43. She is still very beautiful. Hardly
grandmotherly.
> My other recommendations for Bond girl:
> Britney Spears
> Christina Aguilera
> Jessica Alba
> Elisha Cuthbert
> Mila Kunis
>
Just great. They all remind me of the Denise Richards/Tanya Roberts
type of actors. And I cannot believe you actually want Britney or
Christina as Bond girls. Fleming and Broccoli must be rolling in
their graves.
Dr. Shatterhand
www.shatterhand007.com
Terry Hine pussf...@webtv.net writes:
Also interested to read that the late overrun on TEARS OF THE SUN
prevented Bellucci from taking the Mina Harker role in THE LEAGUE OF
EXTRAORDINARY GENTLEMEN opposite Connery.
I can also confirm this, Monica was tested for Tomorrow Never Dies, ans she
was Pierce's favorite choice, but MGM prefered a US actress...
Best,
laurent
Hm. Sirtis is a bit long in the tooth (and not sensual enough). Belucci is a
great idea. My picks:
1) Vanessa L. Williams
2) Thandie Newton
3) Angelina Jolie
4) Lexa Doig
5) Gabrielle Anwar
6) Jeri Ryan (as one of the trashy bad-girls Bond beds early in the films,
before she gets offed somehow)
Tell me what you think.
No.
>2) Thandie Newton
No.
>3) Angelina Jolie
Absolutely not.
>4) Lexa Doig
She's hot.
>5) Gabrielle Anwar
Is she still alive?
>6) Jeri Ryan
Why not just get who she's ripping off of, Rebecca Romijn-Stamos?
Why not?
> >2) Thandie Newton
>
> No.
Why not?
> >3) Angelina Jolie
>
> Absolutely not.
Aw C'mon!
> >4) Lexa Doig
>
> She's hot.
Yepper.
> >5) Gabrielle Anwar
>
> Is she still alive?
I think so. I'm not sure.
> >6) Jeri Ryan
>
> Why not just get who she's ripping off of, Rebecca Romijn-Stamos?
RRS isn't trashy enough.
Jennifer Love Hewitt.
Charlize Theron.
Natalie Imbruglia
Jessica Alba
Ashley Judd
The following are ones, that I would consider bad Picks:
Kelly Osbourne
Hillary Clinton (unless she played a villainess)
Pink
Madeline Allbright
Anne Nicole Smith
Unlike the truth of the Bible, this list is purely my opinion and is not
based on facts, so I can't be dogmatic on it (Hillary Clinton might be an
exeption, just kidding!). But these I would consider some very good and some
really bad picks.
Kees
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Not sensual enough? Buddy, you need to watch more Star Trek.
Marina's ten times more sensual than Jeri Ryan, who has a great chest,
yes, but is not all that pretty. In fact, other than her chest, I've
never understood why so many guys go ga-ga over Ryan -- she's a bit
bug-eyed.
How is she ripping Romijn-Stamos off?
In 10 years, maybe. Why do people keep suggesting girls who are so
young? We need class and maturity back in the Bond women, not
pre-pubescence.
>Ashley Judd
She's too good an actor.
>The following are ones, that I would consider bad Picks:
>Kelly Osbourne
>Hillary Clinton (unless she played a villainess)
>Pink
>Madeline Allbright
>Anne Nicole Smith
LOL -- very true. :)
I wouldn't mind seeing RR-S in a Bond film; she was surprisingly good in the
film "Femme Fatale", she'd be best as a Xenia Onatopp type character
I think they both look an awful lot alike, except the one is superior in each
way (that would be Romijn-Stamos). I think, for a model turned actress,
Romijn-Stamos is very good. She was about the only one who kept things
interesting in X2, and her turn in "Femme Fatale" showed what potential she had
to be an interesting, sexiful (to quote Tiger Tanaka), good Bond girl.
I'm not that keen on Jeri Ryan. I don't think she has the ability to be an even
passable Bond girl, she'd be more like a Teri Hatcher.
I don't think I've ever heard that phrase before in my entire life!
Peace,
The log- I know what I like
Rich Handley rhan...@optonline.net writes:
Yeah, I can see where you're coming from, Rich. Of all the women in
the new STAR TREK shows, the one I find most attractive was
Nana Visitor, and that's not just because she played the bad girl that
time...
On the internet, discussing STAR TREK babes...
I'll get me ANORAK!
Or watch her topless in The Wicked Lady, being whipped by Faye Dunaway
I don't condone violence towards women (even when it's another woman
being violent) but that scene is memorable!
--
The licence to kill for the Secret Service, the double-0 prefix,
was a great honour. It had been earned hardly. It brought James Bond
the only assignments he enjoyed - the dangerous ones.
You know I think the reason is that we are getting older and thus actresses
in their mid or early twenties seem too young. It is just that we have
gotten older. Remember Jane Seymour, Shirley Eaton, and the actress that
played Domino, went blank on her name. Even Izabella Scorupco was just 24 or
25 when she made GoldenEye. I know Love Hewitt is 24 right now. She could do
the title song at the same time.
> >Ashley Judd
> She's too good an actor.
Not sure why that would be a problem. Halle Berry is an Oscar winning
actress.
> You know I think the reason is that we are getting older and thus
actresses
> in their mid or early twenties seem too young. It is just that we have
> gotten older. Remember Jane Seymour, Shirley Eaton, and the actress that
> played Domino, went blank on her name. Even Izabella Scorupco was just 24
or
> 25 when she made GoldenEye. I know Love Hewitt is 24 right now. She could
do
> the title song at the same time.
I think the problem isn't to do with age, it's to do with the perceived age
gaps between the reigning Bond and his leading ladies. If the guy playing
Bond is in his 40s but could pass for being in his early 30s, then I don't
think there's any problem with the Bond girl being in her mid-20s. When the
film involves a girl who's barely into her 20s lusting after a guy who's
clearly over 50 - as with Bibi in FYEO - I start wondering whether she's
psychologically sound. I think it diminishes Bond to turn him into an
overaged sugardaddy.
> > >Ashley Judd
>
> > She's too good an actor.
>
> Not sure why that would be a problem. Halle Berry is an Oscar winning
> actress.
Although I'm no fan of Berry's turn in DAD, I don't see a problem with good
actresses taking on Bond girl roles. Blackman, Rigg, Bouquet, and Marceau -
to name just four - have all been critically acclaimed in various movies and
stage plays. (IMO Elektra's comment to Bond about what happens to men when
they are strangled is deliciously sick and Flemingesque, and beautifully
delivered by Marceau.)
Best
Phil
>I think the problem isn't to do with age, it's to do with the perceived
age>gaps between the reigning Bond and his leading ladies. If the guy
playing>Bond is in his 40s but could pass for being in his early 30s, then I
don't>think there's any problem with the Bond girl being in her mid-20s. When
the>film involves a girl who's barely into her 20s lusting after a guy
who's>clearly over 50 - as with Bibi in FYEO - I start wondering whether
she's>psychologically sound. I think it diminishes Bond to turn him into
an>overaged sugardaddy.
I've seen this comment/complaint so much, and argued against it so often, that
I guess I have to accept this attitude is worth some consideration by Bond film
producers.
But IMO any of the five actors who've played Bond could still go out tonight
and attract lots of young women. And not all of them, or even most of them,
would be in any way psychologically unsound. And this would be true for SC, GL,
RM, TD, and PB even if they were not famous actors...... merely the attractive
older or downright old guys that they are.
It's not unusual for younger women to be attracted to older, even old, men.
It's a fact of life. At one time a poster here, who claimed to be an attractive
young woman, put it this way:
"Because for a young, pretty woman who isn't concerned with getting>babies and
settling down, a man's age doesn't matter (of course if he
>isn't 85 <g>). What matters is that in their fifties those men from>the screen
are MUCH better looking, virile and sexy than 30-somethings
>you can meet at your friend's party or in the office. Much!"
Now add in the fact we're talking about JAMES BOND and it should not surprise
anyone that in 007's fictional world he would attract many younger beautiful
women. Certainly a man in his 50's who looked as RM did in FYEO would attract
younger women. I have no problem believing PB, unless he falls apart tomorrow,
will still be attractive to many young woman for at least several more years.
The complaint, made almost exclusively by males, is that it looks unseemly.
I've never seen it that way though you are IMO accurately describing the way
some view Bond being with younger women.
But, Phil, you're also adding in your own prejudice in the matter with
descriptions like "over aged sugar daddy." I thought a sugar-daddy supported a
younger woman financially, getting sex and, if he's lucky, some affection in
return. When has Bond ever done anything like that? Bond's women are attracted
to him. They are willing sex partners.
Bond is attractive to woman . . . period. Lots of them are going to be young.
And, being Bond, he will often, but not always, have sexual relations with
them. He declined in Bibi's case but she appeared to be genuinely
"psychologically unsound."
I'm starting to accept the older Bond/young starlet issue and how it's
perceived is worth considering from the viewpoint of the producers. As yet,
however, I'm not convinced the $$$ gawk value of a young actress like Jennifer
Love Hewitt or Jennifer Garner doesn't far outweigh the negative of some fans
who might be concerned with Bond being in his 50's.
> But IMO any of the five actors who've played Bond could still go out
tonight
> and attract lots of young women. And not all of them, or even most of
them,
> would be in any way psychologically unsound. And this would be true for
SC, GL,
> RM, TD, and PB even if they were not famous actors...... merely the
attractive
> older or downright old guys that they are.
> It's not unusual for younger women to be attracted to older, even old,
men.
> It's a fact of life.
I'm not denying that the men who played Bond in the past are very attractive
and well-preserved for their respective ages. I just think that when one
looks at, say, Roger's Bond's strike rate from 1981 onwards, it becomes a
little unlikely. Certainly *some* young women would be attracted to a
successful guy twice their age... but *every* woman the aforementioned guy
meets? That's what seems like wishful thinking to me.
> But, Phil, you're also adding in your own prejudice in the matter with
> descriptions like "over aged sugar daddy." I thought a sugar-daddy
supported a
> younger woman financially, getting sex and, if he's lucky, some affection
in
> return. When has Bond ever done anything like that? Bond's women are
attracted
> to him. They are willing sex partners.
I admit I was overstating the case there (although I still think that the
description above fits exactly the kind of man Bibi was looking for, and
that Bond's rejection of her advances doesn't make the inclusion of her
character in the film any less tacky).
> Bond is attractive to woman . . . period. Lots of them are going to be
young.
Of course. That's part of the character. However, to reiterate, I think
the idea that every young woman would be attracted to a fifty-something
stranger at first sight - however attractive or well-preserved he may be -
is stretching credulity somewhat IMO.
Best
Phil
>I'm not denying that the men who played Bond in the past are very
attractive>and well-preserved for their respective ages. I just think that
when one
>looks at, say, Roger's Bond's strike rate from 1981 onwards, it becomes
a>little unlikely.
What is a "strike rate?"
>Certainly *some* young women would be attracted to a>successful guy twice
their age... but *every* woman the aforementioned guy>meets? That's what seems
like wishful thinking to me.
Well, young women being attracted to "successful" older men is a common thing
but that's another issue. There's quite a few young women who seem to simply
find older man attractive.
>I admit I was overstating the case there (although I still think that
the>description above fits exactly the kind of man Bibi was looking for,
and>that Bond's rejection of her advances doesn't make the inclusion of
her>character in the film any less tacky).
You think Bibi was looking for Bond to be her keeper and sponsor in place of
Kristatos? I guess that's possible but IMO it's pretty clear Bibi's major
motivation is lust.
I never thought about her inclusion in the film being "tacky." I think it gave
us a chance to see that 007 was capable of refusing sex with an empty-headed
kid. (OK, he didn't refuse sex with empty-headed Stacey Sutton but she was no
teenager.)
And I still think suggesting Bond has ever been made to appear anything close
to a Sugar Daddy is unjust regardless of Bibi's motives.
>However, to reiterate, I think>the idea that every young woman would be
attracted to a fifty-something>stranger at first sight - however attractive or
well-preserved he may be -
>is stretching credulity somewhat IMO.
I never got the impression "every young woman" was attracted to Bond in FYEO.
I mean it didn't seem that was stressed or anything. There's Melina, who seems
a lot more mature than Bibi. Countess Lisl and she's definitely older. Then
Bibi, who seems like she'd be pretty easy to attract for guys of lots of
different ages.
Credulity is stretched in all directions by any Bond film. Having Bond continue
to be extraordinarily attractive to women even when an older actor is playing
him seems reasonable IMO. Many feel as you do that this appears unrealistic but
in my experience (several years of tracking unfaithful spouses as a PI) the
young woman/old guy scenario is pretty common. And money is not always the
motive.
What doesn't help these young girls is that they're not writing good Bond girls
anymore. Characters like Christmas and Frost were lacking. A movie like TWINE,
for example, was such a Frankenstein's monster of a film, it seemed like dozens
of different movies sewn together, that a lot of the characters didn't fit, a
lot of the actors, like Denise Richards, looked lost. They tried to hide this
by getting an acclaimed director, known for his dramatic films, but the result
was just a really uneven mess. TND tried to hide this under explosions, DAD
under visual style.
It's not the women that should be questioned, it's the writers. They can't
smoke when there's no fire in the script.
>
>"Rich Handley" <rhan...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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>> "Kees J. Boer" <kees...@integrity-computing.net>:
>> >Jennifer Love Hewitt.
>> >Jessica Alba
>>
>> In 10 years, maybe. Why do people keep suggesting girls who are so
>> young? We need class and maturity back in the Bond women, not
>> pre-pubescence.
>>
>
>You know I think the reason is that we are getting older and thus actresses
>in their mid or early twenties seem too young. It is just that we have
>gotten older. Remember Jane Seymour, Shirley Eaton, and the actress that
>played Domino, went blank on her name. Even Izabella Scorupco was just 24 or
>25 when she made GoldenEye.
Interesting. And those are the Bond girls that always seemed to me to
be dingalings, along with Daniela Bianchi.
Well, naive little ingenue types, if not quite dingalings.
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Kees
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I do know the other way, when I was 18 years old, I was not attracted to 50
year old women. Of course the suggestions I had given as far as Bond leading
ladies, these are girls in their mid twenties like Jennnifer Love Hewitt.
Kees
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"Dingaling" means "silly, ditzy person." Maybe it should be spelled
"ding-a-ling?"
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