R
daniel.rodd
In TWINE, Bond makes a joke about Q's new assistant, somthing like "If
you're Q, thuse that make him R?". Now everyone calles him R. But that's not
his name, is it?
Pierceonline
Jordan D. Charter
daniel.rodd wrote:
No that isn't his name. Officially his name is "Q's Assistant" until they
actually give him a name, if they do.
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RMS-MarionS
<danie...@wanadoo.fr> :
>In TWINE, Bond makes a joke about Q's new assistant, somthing like "If
>you're Q, thuse that make him R?". Now everyone calles him R. But that's not
>his name, is it?
We don't know his name yet, and we also don't know if he will be
called R or Q.
MarionS
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designation of "Q" simply meant head of "Q Branch," but there can be only
one "Q."
RMS-MarionS <RMS-M...@t-online.de> wrote in message
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Bill Thomas
Bernard Lee (you didn't see any pictures of Robert Brown on the walls,
did you?) then I think the new head of Q branch should be Q. Or we
can call him "Algernon"! ;)
Bill T.
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Holvbphoto
<prez234...@juno.com.invalid> writes:
>
>Hmmm...Would that prove that Robert Brown was playing the
>same character as Bernard Lee did? There might be a
>picture of the unit's founder in the office, but not the
>successor.
>
I always understood that he did, alot of people think that hes the same Admiral
from TSWLM, please remember in FYEO "M" was on leave, and Bill Tanner took
over (After 12 films we see this guy for only the second time, first time was a
cameo
in TMWTGG, different actor) so in closing YES he is SIR MILES
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wrote:
>I hope they just give him a name. "R" would be a stupid name, since the
>designation of "Q" simply meant head of "Q Branch," but there can be only
>one "Q."
>
Let's rename Q-Branch to "Research & Development"...
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Bill Thomas
>In article <0ecacb58...@usw-ex0109-068.remarq.com>, Z
><prez234...@juno.com.invalid> writes:
>
>>
>>Hmmm...Would that prove that Robert Brown was playing the
>>same character as Bernard Lee did? There might be a
>>picture of the unit's founder in the office, but not the
>>successor.
>>
>
>I always understood that he did, alot of people think that hes the same Admiral
>from TSWLM, please remember in FYEO "M" was on leave, and Bill Tanner took
>over (After 12 films we see this guy for only the second time, first time was a
>cameo
>in TMWTGG, different actor) so in closing YES he is SIR MILES
My comment about Bernard Lee's portrait was not to say that it proves
both Lee and Brown played the same man (Sir Miles), but to say that
Lee was far more memorable. Is there ANYONE who liked Brown better
than Lee?
Personally I always thought that Brown was a different character than
Lee and that he was a little shorted in that he had little to no
introduction in OP. I didn't think he was a very good M, but it is
entirely possible that he just didn't have as well written scenes as
the other two M's. (Although his scenes in LTK weren't awful.)
Bill T.
Holvbphoto
Thomas) writes:
>
>Personally I always thought that Brown was a different character than
>Lee and that he was a little shorted in that he had little to no
>introduction in OP. I didn't think he was a very good M, but it is
>entirely possible that he just didn't have as well written scenes as
>the other two M's. (Although his scenes in LTK weren't awful.)
>
While I like Robert in OP to TLD, I did not like the idea tha "M" tries to KILL
BOND in LTK, what kind of supid rule saids you can kill your own people??
juliet
> >designation of "Q" simply meant head of "Q Branch," but there can be only
> >one "Q."
No, Actually if you read the books (old ones esp. but also in the newies)
you'll see that 'Q' stood for quartermaster, when Fleming was in the war, he
would've got his things from the 'Q store' (quartermaster's store) which
was like the military outfitting depot
Lance Hirsch
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> While I like Robert in OP to TLD, I did not like the idea tha "M" tries to
KILL
>
> BOND in LTK, what kind of supid rule saids you can kill your own people??
I don't recall that. M stopped him from getting killed at the Hemingway
House. When he was caught in Isthmus, he was being drugged (not killed) for
return to London as a rogue agent.
On the broader point, I could understand that M may have to have Bond killed
if he "resigned". Bond knows too much and may be a risk if he left the firm
on his own terms so to speak.
Lance
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of them seemed to come from Texas."
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Holvbphoto
<lhi...@attglobal.net> writes:
>
>On the broader point, I could understand that M may have to have Bond killed
>if he "resigned". Bond knows too much and may be a risk if he left the firm
>on his own terms so to speak.
>
and yet he almost resigned in OHMSS?!
besides resigned or retired whats the different?
Michael Reed
> In article <39257...@news1.prserv.net>, "Lance Hirsch"
> <lhi...@attglobal.net> writes:
>
> >
> >On the broader point, I could understand that M may have to have Bond
killed
> >if he "resigned". Bond knows too much and may be a risk if he left the
firm
> >on his own terms so to speak.
> >
>
> and yet he almost resigned in OHMSS?!
> besides resigned or retired whats the different?
Mostly that he all but told M he WILL illegally persue chasing a drug dealer
and if caught provide potentially great embarrassment to the British
intelligence service and ignore a direct order to stay away. It's that he
intends to continue doing a job against orders and without consideration of
the risks.
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Rhino
<lhi...@attglobal.net> wrote:
>Holvbphoto <holvb...@cs.com> wrote in message
>news:20000518235312...@nso-fp.news.cs.com...
>
>> While I like Robert in OP to TLD, I did not like the idea tha "M" tries to
>KILL
>>
>> BOND in LTK, what kind of supid rule saids you can kill your own people??
>
>I don't recall that. M stopped him from getting killed at the Hemingway
>House. When he was caught in Isthmus, he was being drugged (not killed) for
>return to London as a rogue agent.
>
>On the broader point, I could understand that M may have to have Bond killed
>if he "resigned". Bond knows too much and may be a risk if he left the firm
>on his own terms so to speak.
They could gas him in his flat and then remove him to a small village
where other "rogue" agents are hidden away
Hey, I've just a terrific idea for a TV series...
--
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was a great honour. It had been earned hardly. It brought James Bond
the only assignments he enjoyed - the dangerous ones.
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SandG
if that is a sign of what's to come or not.
Kelly Clarke
successor start with the next letter.
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Rhino
<krcl...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> Duh! Q died in December in a car crash. it's only obvious that his
>successor start with the next letter.
Double duh! The film was made before Desmond died and he was credited
as R while he was still alive. He is credited as R because Bond makes
a joke about that being his name - he may not be Q in the next movie
but I'm pretty sure he won't be R either
gravity
bond film really was so into the original bond books that they
would change 'r' to 'q' just because it stood for quartermaster--
so they will most likely keep 'r'
Kelly Clarke
credit's, and being that they responded today, I am assuming that they meant
the Credit's from the Video, which was released After
"Q's" death. John Cleese was being groomed to take over the position because
Q was going to be retiring, he was getting pretty old,
so Eon was probably preparing for his departure. And it is to my
understanding that John Cleese will be taking over in the next few films.
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Rhino
<krcl...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> Yes, It was made before "Q" died, But SandG said they were looking at the
>credit's, and being that they responded today, I am assuming that they meant
>the Credit's from the Video, which was released After
>"Q's" death. John Cleese was being groomed to take over the position because
>Q was going to be retiring, he was getting pretty old,
>so Eon was probably preparing for his departure. And it is to my
>understanding that John Cleese will be taking over in the next few films.
But Cleese was credited as R in the cinema release, not just the VHS
and DVD releases
Rhino
<commander_f...@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>the thing is is that, i highly doubt that anyone working on a
>bond film really was so into the original bond books that they
>would change 'r' to 'q' just because it stood for quartermaster--
> so they will most likely keep 'r'
>
Maybe so, but you have to admit that they must have consulted the
books at some point to have come up with Bond's family motto - and I
still can't see them having Bond's briefing with someone called R
Kelly Clarke
responding about it AFTER the video release.
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Rhino <rh...@SPAMGUARDblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 26 May 2000 21:03:57 -0700, "Kelly Clarke"
> <krcl...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> > Yes, It was made before "Q" died, But SandG said they were looking at
the
> >credit's, and being that they responded today, I am assuming that they
meant
> >the Credit's from the Video, which was released After
> >"Q's" death. John Cleese was being groomed to take over the position
because
> >Q was going to be retiring, he was getting pretty old,
> >so Eon was probably preparing for his departure. And it is to my
> >understanding that John Cleese will be taking over in the next few films.
>
> But Cleese was credited as R in the cinema release, not just the VHS
> and DVD releases
>
>
Rhino
<krcl...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> Maybe they didn't see it in the Cinema, Only on video. That's why there
>responding about it AFTER the video release.
>
You're missing my point. It's immaterial when they saw the video - the
reply given (i.e. that the producers credited him as R after Llewelyn
died) cannot be accurate when the producers credited him as R from the
very beginning (in fact, many people here had know his character was
to be called R long before the film was released)
Kelly Clarke
regarding if that was a sign of what was to become. I don't care if
everybody else knew. Apparently SandG didn't know. Otherwise, if they knew,
why ask the question? It is Immaterial if you know what's going on, or not.
My first response wasn't directed at you, Rhino.
I seems to me, That SandG didn't see the movie in the Thearte's, and
didn't know anything about John Cleese playing the character "R". And they
only just found out when the video came out, and saw the movie. Not
everybody surf's just the Bond sight's, and know's everything there is about
James Bond.
Your the Expert, if "Q" mean's Quartermaster. What does "M", and "R"
stand for? "M" = Master? "R" =Replacement? Personally, I don't care about
petty thing's like that. I just enjoy the entertainment. I could care less
what letter they used for someone. Hell, all I tried to do was answer the
person's question, and I end up getting into a debate with you. And if you
still don't know what I am talking about, I'll repeat it.
SandG sent the following message: In the credits of TWINE, John
Cleese's character IS listed as "R". I don't know if that is a sign of
what's to come or not.
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John Doherty
gravity wrote in message <24fc863a...@usw-ex0101-008.remarq.com>...
>the thing is is that, i highly doubt that anyone working on a
>bond film really was so into the original bond books that they
>would change 'r' to 'q' just because it stood for quartermaster--
> so they will most likely keep 'r'
I'd doubt John Cleese's character would remain as 'R'. After all, M is
always M, regardless of who's playing the role. And, if 'Q' has retired then
the position 'Q' is vacant. 'R' being next would move up to 'Q'.
Hell...I think I've just confused myself ;^)
Regards,
JD
Kelly Clarke
it's in the closing credits.
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Cynic <rhan...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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> "Kelly Clarke" <krcl...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> > Duh! Q died in December in a car crash. it's only obvious that his
> >successor start with the next letter.
>
> Don't know much about the Bond mythos, eh? Q stands for
> "Quartermaster," so anyone with that title is called Q. "R" was just
> a joke.
>
>
>
Cynic
points you make here have little to do with it. Your point was that
the producers are going to call the character R. Go back and re-read
it, and you'll see why everyone is interpreting your responses the way
they are.
Cynic
Cynic
on whether or not the producers are planning to keep calling him R.
Bond might call him R as a joke, but the character's name is Q.
"Kelly Clarke" <krcl...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> Maybe they didn't see it in the Cinema, Only on video. That's why there
>responding about it AFTER the video release.
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>Rhino <rh...@SPAMGUARDblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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>> On Fri, 26 May 2000 21:03:57 -0700, "Kelly Clarke"
>> <krcl...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Yes, It was made before "Q" died, But SandG said they were looking at
>the
>> >credit's, and being that they responded today, I am assuming that they
>meant
>> >the Credit's from the Video, which was released After
>> >"Q's" death. John Cleese was being groomed to take over the position
>because
>> >Q was going to be retiring, he was getting pretty old,
>> >so Eon was probably preparing for his departure. And it is to my
>> >understanding that John Cleese will be taking over in the next few films.
>>
>> But Cleese was credited as R in the cinema release, not just the VHS
>> and DVD releases
>>
>>
Rhino
<krcl...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> Your the Expert, if "Q" mean's Quartermaster. What does "M", and "R"
>stand for? "M" = Master? "R" =Replacement? Personally, I don't care about
>petty thing's like that. I just enjoy the entertainment. I could care less
>what letter they used for someone. Hell, all I tried to do was answer the
>person's question, and I end up getting into a debate with you. And if you
>still don't know what I am talking about, I'll repeat it.
As I said before, R is called R because of Bond's joke - "If you're Q,
does that make him R?"
M is called M for a number of reasons. M was the pet name Fleming had
for his mother, who was very much an authority figure in his life. The
original M (in the novels) was called Sir Miles Messervy and he was
also called Miles in one of the films (Moonraker, I believe) - the M
refers to his initials. Someone once posted (I'm sorry, I forget who)
that the idea was also used in one of the big law enforcement agencies
(CIA? FBI?) - the first head of the department was called C (or
something) because his initials were C - all following heads were
called C as a mark of respect for the original (sorry - all this seems
quite rambling; but it's 7:00am and I have a hangover). So, the new M
is called M for ease of deparment continuity and as a sign of respect
for her predecessor. By rights, Cleese should be called Q for the same
reason
Cynic
Uh, I think you need to see the movie again, John Cleese's name IS
John Cleese. His character, however, hasn't yet been named. Bond
calls him "R" as a joke. Names in credits dont mean much -- if they
did, there would be people in films with such names as "Man on Street"
and "Woman with hat" and "Old guy." They identify him as "R" in the
credits for the simple reason that people will recognize him as the
character from the "R" joke. That doesn't prevent them from calling
him "Q" in the next film, when he moves up to the "Q" position vacated
by the previous Q.
"Kelly Clarke" <krcl...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> Uh, I think you need to see the movie again, John Cleese's name IS "R"
>it's in the closing credits.
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Holvbphoto
<rh...@SPAMGUARDblueyonder.co.uk> writes:
>also called Miles in one of the films (Moonraker, I believe)
It was TSWLM, where Gen. Gogol saids "After you Miles"
Fred
funny. Is there more to it that R comes after Q, or is that the joke?
Fred
Rhino
wrote:
>Pardon me for my thickness, but what was the joke about "R"? It wasn't
>funny. Is there more to it that R comes after Q, or is that the joke?
It's just a very lame joke, purely and simply that R follows Q in the
alphabet
MacGyver
John Doherty <john.e....@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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That's allright. That happens to the best of us. I think that they should
retire the "Q" name even though "Q" is really just the designation for
Quartermaster. He was hardly ever called Major Boothroyd in the films.
There can be many James Bonds, but only one Q. However, "R" is a silly
name, just one of Bond's "Half-witted" remarks. I hope they just end up
giving him a name.
> Regards,
>
> JD
>
>
Tom Zielinski
Tom Zielinski
Lake In The Hills, IL USA
"Life is Funny, But I'm Not Laughing..."
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