DAD's 60 Insider References! Yes, 60! SPOILERS
Matt Sherman
films were intentionally given homage other verbally or visually in
Die Another Day by the EON filmmakers. (Get the mag, and not just
because they quote me in it. ;) Superb treatment of 007 in both the US
and UK Time Nov. 11 editions.)
There are also clever and fan- and franchise-honoring insider jokes
and Ian Fleming reference points throughout this MARVELOUS 20th 007
film.
I have collated below the superb research by CommanderBond.net, Tom
Zielinski, "Luckyatlove", John Doherty, Michael Kersey and The Spy and
added my own observations... add to this list, gang! How many can we
find? How many were not meant to be there but by coincidence pulled
from another film? How many are merely the diseased ramblings of my
own conspiratorial mind? ;)
Dr. No: Bikini and knife worn by Jinx Johnson (and Ursula Andress).
Dr. No #2: The "fast car Bond needs" in Cuba should look familiar. It
is the same make and year as the chauffeur-driven car to drive Bond
from the airport 40 years before. (Chauffer as played by stuntman Bob
Simmons who is also "Bond" in that film's gunbarrel sequence.)
Dr. No #3: Wellington's Arch in London is featured in Gustav Graves'
London scene. The Duke of Wellington's portrait was stolen in the
1960's and featured in Dr. No's headquarters as one of EON's
first-ever insider jokes.
From Russia With Love: The Cigar Factory scene is reminiscent of the
rug bazaar.
FRWL #2: "Raul's" character and dialogue, age and looks, office HQ and
association with MI-6 are perhaps the closest to that of Kerim Bey of
any subsequent Bond film. A very likeable supporting character.
FRWL #3: Bond sniffs unappreciatively at Rosa Klebb's knife shoe,
inside Quartermaster's lab.
Goldfinger: Bond sets the timer in the plastic explosive in the
precredits as in Goldfinger. The explosive is clearly labeled for our
edification as Goldfinger-type "C-4!"
Goldfinger #2: Bond's Aston uses an ejector seat, the fourth such
device if we include not only Goldfinger but the ejection from the
helicopter in GoldenEye and the clever ejector seat move on the
airplane in Tomorrow Never Dies!
Goldfinger #3: Jinx is subject to a laser table. Note the clever
script lines about her unwillingness to talk, which is why she should
die on the laser table! The DAD script is adorable! How can you not
like this film?
Goldfinger #4: All of DAD clearly homages Godlfinger in visual style,
parsing down of dialogue to minimum as needed to move plot, zippy and
quirky soundtrack (remember Vic FLick strumming a banjo in
Goldfinger), etc. Hey, if you are gong to remake a film 17 times, do
it right the 17th time. Hooray!
Goldfinger #5: Pussy Galore struggled to pilot a plane during Bond's
fight aboard the plane as did Jinx in DAD.
Thunderball: Bond used Q's "rebreather" in both films, discarding them
after use onscreen in both films, swimming this time "beneath the ice"
(pun intended), which reminds viewers of Largo's covered swimming pool
in terms of a confined space.
Thunderball #2: After he's distracted the guards and jumped through
the window to move around them at the Cuban clinic, Bond goes through
a patient's room, saying "Good day" in Spanish and lifting a grape.
The whole Cuban clinic is an homage to Thunderball in a pleasant way.
You Only Live Twice: Jinx sliding down a cable within the Ice Palace
is right out of the ninja attack from that film.
Casino Royale: Nothing to report here, I'm proud to say. Give the ng
time. ;)
O.H.M.S.S. Speed-up/slow-down editing with sounds effects attached
plus crash-cutting/Peter Hunt style editing (eliminating all
establishing shots not pertinent to the action) used to great effect
in film. "Crash cutting" would include when Bond used the ice car's
parachute to knock off a motorcyclist from his bike... yet the
audience was not delayed to the action watching Bond set in place or
even retrieve the parachute beforehand. Peter Hunt invented this style
of action film editing, forever changing film.
Diamonds Are Forever #1: Glass floor of Gustav Graves' Ice Palace main
room reminiscent of Whyte House apartment glass floor displaying Baja,
California oil rig and other Willard Whyte concerns.
DAF #2: Bond smuggles diamonds by Bond in both films. In both films,
the diamonds are illegally secured by the villains before they are
smuggled between countries.
DAF #3: Icarus diamond-laser satellite reminiscent in design and use
of Blofeld's diamond-laser satellite. (Both satellites super-heat
stuff until it explodes.)
DAF #4: Scorpions in titles and Bond's tortures bring back Mr. Wint
and Mr. Kidd. Hooray!
DAF #5: (They picked one of my favorite 007 films to homage
continually! Hey, I have my reasons why I like it!) The Cuban clinic
scene mimics DAF's opener with the masked doctors seeking to alter
both a villain's (Graves') and a henchman's (Zao's) facial features.
It wasn't merely Telly Savalas' Blofeld they were altering to Charles
Gray's features but Blofeld's doppelganger henchmen, too. Think about
it.
DAF #6: As 007 reads the Gustav Graves feature in "High Life" magazine
on the flight from Havana to London, you can clearly see the words,
"Diamonds Are Forever" as a subheading at the bottom of that page!
Live and Let Die: Bond prominently enjoys a good cigar ala Roger
Moore.
LALD #2: A black American agent sleeps with Bond before he comes to
understand her true identity/allegiance. (Jinx Johnson's strong
character reminded me strongly of the delightful and strong in
real-life Gloria Hendry.)
The Man With The Golden Gun: The turning mirrors in the Cuban DNA lab
are right out of Scaramanga's "Island Fun House".
TMWTGG #2: Bond's car flips over and back upright again in DAD as in
TMWTGG.
The Spy Who Loved Me: Ice Palace reminiscent of Stromberg's Atlantis
in terms of architecture.
TSWLM #2: Cars are upended and crash vertically... near innocent
workers... for a laugh for the viewing movie audience.
Moonraker: Swordfight with Gustav Graves reminiscent of other
marvelous 007 swordfight, with Chang inside Venetian glassworks.
Moonraker #2: Colonel Moon's waterfall "death fall" an obvious homage
to Jaws' waterfall "death fall" in Brazil Glastron Carlson sequence.
Watch the camera angle and speeds in both sequences.
For Your Eyes Only: Madonna both appears in film and sings title song,
the second such double appearance, as Sheena Easton also appeared in
her Bond film, over Maurice Binder's titles.
FYEO #2: Bond dismounts a biker across the chest with a parachute and
flips two others through the air with his car. Reminiscent of bikers'
dismounts and deaths in FYEO Cortina D'Ampezzo scenes.
Octopussy: Bede Mini-Jet may be seen in Q's lab.
Octopussy #2: Alligator Mini-Sub hangs alongside the Bede Jet!
Never Say Never Again: I am hoping that finding a woman in bed with a
knife as in both films is merely a coincidence. ;) It takes skill for
Bond NOT to imitate his own films at this point.
A View To A Kill: Lawrence Makoare plays "Mr. Kil," a "name to die
for." (Bond was meeting Mr. Kil with a view to killing him later!)
The Living Daylights: The cargo plane with the huge exit in back, and
several vehicles, at least one of which contains parachutes, is one
obvious reference.
TLD #2: Beach opening credits resemble TLD's opener as in both the
audience views set traps for tanks/armored vehicles.
TLD #3: An exciting Aston Martin car chase through ice and snow with
numerous gadgets are featured in both DAD and its predecessor.
TLD #4: Working as an MI-6 sniper, Bond is about to kill his quarry
when his shot is blocked. As in the film and original Fleming short
story where Bond hesitates to kill a woman, perhaps Bond hesitates in
DAD because Miranda Frost enters his sights and he cannot therefore
"see" Moon clearly. Watch the new film closely here. I think the
insider reference is implied.
License To Kill: Bond is released from active duty and purposed for
quarantine/debriefing when he directly and angrily disobeys M then
escapes MI-6 to seek revenge.
GoldenEye: We see Bond's laser watch cut an icy semi-circle in an
almost exact duplicate of the move from the GoldenEye teaser sequence.
GoldenEye #2: Jinx's struggle to right the falling helicopter is
almost a straight mimic of Bond's attempts to right his plane in the
opener of GoldenEye. Both pilots are successful in averting disaster,
of course.
GoldenEye #3: Bond is responsible for horrific damage to a villain's
face.
GoldenEye #4: The great expense of damages to Aston Martins and
Ferraris raised eyebrows when the Xenia/Bond car chase was filmed.
Xenia's car was originally to have been a yellow car. A yellow and a
red sports car are trashed during the final scenes of DAD.
GoldenEye #5: Bond begins his teaser mission alongside an MI-6
colleague.
Tomorrow Never Dies: Jinx's cable and leather outfit are an almost
direct lift of Wai Lin's. Note that Miranda Frost later comments on
"Jinx's tailor!". This one is too good not to be true.
TND #2: An expatriate foreigner who is now a recognized member of
British high society is the main villain, as in TWINE as well! In
GoldenEye, the other of the four Brosnan Bonds, the villain is an
expatriate Englishman!
TND #3: Bond studies wall art for a few moments to discern where he
can reveal a villain's secret supplies/room in both Carver's Hamburg
HQ and the Cuban clinic.
The World Is Not Enough: Icarus was the son of Daedalus in Greek
mythology. A father and son fly too close to the sun and are
burned/fall to their deaths. Colonel Moon and his father die aboard a
plane that uses sunlight as weaponry... The DAD plane is turned toward
the "sunbeam" by Jinx before father and son die aboard the craft...
Greek mythology as Bond plot. Reminiscent of "Elektra" King (daughter
who slays father for Greek mythology as 007 plot). Also, Janus,
two-faced god of Roman mythology is a simile for Alec Trelveyan's
two-sided face in GoldenEye.
TWINE #2: David Arnold's "love theme" for the final minute of DAD
lifts straight from TWINE's romantic theme/theme song. David Arnold
also homages O.H.M.S.S. and another half-dozen of John Barry's Bond
scores in pleasant ways in DAD.
Ian Fleming's Resource Material: Bond's cover as "James Bond,
Ornithologist" and his reading "Birds Of The West Indies" (as written
by James Bond!) onscreen.
Ian Fleming's Moonraker: British-adopted foreigner awaits knighthood,
seeks to play Bond for money (angrily and pridefully) at "Blades".
("Gala Brand" was originally the name for "Miranda Frost" as well.)
Ian Fleming's Goldfinger: Korean henchmen and staff populate the
villain's headquarters.
Ian Fleming's Thunderball: Domino was enamored of the Players
Cigarette's sailor character. A poster for Players Cigarettes appears
in the London Underground MI-6 Headquarters!
Ian Fleming's O.H.M.S.S.: Miranda Frost's "Love For Dinner" and "Death
For Breakfast" are pulled straight from Fleming's novel (to good
effect in the film)!
Ian Fleming's The Man With The Golden Gun: Bond is captured by the bad
guys. Perhaps he has been brainwashed to be turned against M
himself/herself? M's "office" has an invisible partition to protect
her/him from Bond.
Kingsley Amis as Robert Markham's Colonel Sun: "Colonel Moon" was to
have been named "Colonel Sun" in the original DAD draft.
John Gardner's License Renewed: Bond is a "blunt instrument" who
serves M and England in that disagreeable but necessary capacity.
John Gardner's Icebreaker: "The Ice Palace" is the given nickname of
the villain's headquarters.
Raymond Benson's The Facts Of Death: Invisible/surface changing car
appears (disappears).
Insider Joke #1: Quartermaster tells Bond about his Omega [and also
The Bond films], "...That's about 20 of them now, isn't it?" Bond
replies, "...Has it been that many?" [watches bond has lost and also
20 Bond films over 40 years?]
Insider Joke #2: Bond quips "...Just a flesh wound" to John Cleese as
Q. Perhaps the best-known movie or TV line of all time from John
Cleese's famous comedy troupe is "...Just a flesh wound!" from Monty
Python and the Holy Grail.
Other #1: Producer Michael G. Wilson makes yet another cameo, this
time in "Havana" (leaning against a car in scene as Bond strolls
across a city street).
Other #2: Roger Moore's daughter, Deborah, makes a cameo appearance
onscreen in DAD.
If you like this game you'll love the 4,000 words I wrote about the
bizarre similarites between GoldenEye and Tommorow Never Dies for
007Forever.com. ;)
--Matt Sherman
With their Bond 20, EON is "...More of a problem eliminator."
Levi Ramsey
m...@007forever.com (Matt Sherman) wrote:
> TLD #4: Working as an MI-6 sniper, Bond is about to kill his quarry
> when his shot is blocked. As in the film and original Fleming short
> story where Bond hesitates to kill a woman, perhaps Bond hesitates in
> DAD because Miranda Frost enters his sights and he cannot therefore
> "see" Moon clearly. Watch the new film closely here. I think the
> insider reference is implied.
>
> License To Kill: Bond is released from active duty and purposed for
> quarantine/debriefing when he directly and angrily disobeys M then
> escapes MI-6 to seek revenge.
TLD #4 could also be an LTK homage, as the same thing happens in LTK.
> TND #2: An expatriate foreigner who is now a recognized member of
> British high society is the main villain, as in TWINE as well! In
> GoldenEye, the other of the four Brosnan Bonds, the villain is an
> expatriate Englishman!
Bzzt! Wrong!
Watch GoldenEye again.
Trevelyan is a Lienz Cossack who passes himself off as an Englishman and
then as a Russian (based on Ourumov's surprise when Bond tells him).
> Other #1: Producer Michael G. Wilson makes yet another cameo, this
> time in "Havana" (leaning against a car in scene as Bond strolls
> across a city street).
While an Easter Egg, I'm not sure I would count it as an homage. MGW's
cameos are practically part of the formula now.
--
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> plus crash-cutting/Peter Hunt style editing (eliminating all
> establishing shots not pertinent to the action) used to great effect
> in film. "Crash cutting" would include when Bond used the ice car's
> parachute to knock off a motorcyclist from his bike... yet the
> audience was not delayed to the action watching Bond set in place or
> even retrieve the parachute beforehand. Peter Hunt invented this style
> of action film editing, forever changing film.
>
Although Peter Hunt popularised the jump cut it was in fact a development of
the French New Wave movement with Jean Luc Goddard usually indicated as the
person to first use it as a narrative trick.
Can't believe you missed the filming of Bond and an opposing agent from From
Russia With Love while he is in the Yacht Club.
Tom Zielinski
A question. Is the Q-Branch gadget "ring finger sonic agitator" in any way
a tip to the solex agitator in "The Man With The Golden Gun"?
Tom Zielinski
"Life is Funny, But I'm Not Laughing"
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> I read in Time Magazine's November 11 Bond issue that all 19 Bond
> films were intentionally given homage other verbally or visually in
> Die Another Day by the EON filmmakers. (Get the mag, and not just
> because they quote me in it. ;) Superb treatment of 007 in both the US
> and UK Time Nov. 11 editions.)
eliminator."
Sam Spade
>O.H.M.S.S. Speed-up/slow-down editing with sounds effects attached
>plus crash-cutting/Peter Hunt style editing (eliminating all
>establishing shots not pertinent to the action) used to great effect
>in film. "Crash cutting" would include when Bond used the ice car's
>parachute to knock off a motorcyclist from his bike... yet the
>audience was not delayed to the action watching Bond set in place or
>even retrieve the parachute beforehand. Peter Hunt invented this style
>of action film editing, forever changing film.
Peter Hunt may have popularised the style but he certainly didn't invent it.
Jean Luc Goddard is accredited with the creation of the 'Jump Cut' as part
of the narrative style rather than an error.
You missed the filming of Bond with an opposition spy from FRWL, which is
homaged in the Yacht Club.
Wmkoenig
>time in "Havana" (leaning against a car in scene as Bond strolls
>across a city street).
>
Wilson goes one better. The magazine article about Gustav Graves was written
by Gregg Wilson. MGW creates a "cameo" for his son.
Bill K.
Wmkoenig
-- hospital sequence. there is a sound effect that either duplicates or uses
outright the same weird electronic noises in the Dr. No gunbarrel.
-- laser satellite. when it's working they use the same sound effect as
TSWLM when submarines were being taken over.
Bill K.
Dean Eaton
OHMSS.
Music quotes or tweaks from YOLT, AVTAK, OHMSS and TB appear throughout.
Dean
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EagleBill
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DN #4: MI6 sending for Bod at the club, reminiscent of the first
appearance of Bond in DN
> FRWL #3: Bond sniffs unappreciatively at Rosa Klebb's knife shoe,
> inside Quartermaster's lab.
FRWL #4: Bond ejects the dagger from the briefcase on the table in Q's
lab
>
> Goldfinger #5: Pussy Galore struggled to pilot a plane during Bond's
> fight aboard the plane as did Jinx in DAD.
Goldfinger #6: Using the diamond as the stakes for the duel, obvious
reference to the gold bar golf bet in GF
> Casino Royale: Nothing to report here, I'm proud to say. Give the ng
> time. ;)
Casino Royale (literary reference): The character of Miranda Frost,
female MI6 agent, betraying Bond has got to be a nod to Vesper
> DAF #2: Bond smuggles diamonds by Bond in both films. In both films,
> the diamonds are illegally secured by the villains before they are
> smuggled between countries.
...and in both the source of the diamonds is South Africa
> DAF #3: Icarus diamond-laser satellite reminiscent in design and use
> of Blofeld's diamond-laser satellite. (Both satellites super-heat
> stuff until it explodes.)
I agree with the obvious reference, but I don't think Icarus ia
diamond-laser, it's just financed by diamonds.
> DAF #4: Scorpions in titles and Bond's tortures bring back Mr. Wint
> and Mr. Kidd. Hooray!
In equally chilling fashion, I might add.
> It wasn't merely Telly Savalas' Blofeld they were altering to
Charles
> Gray's features but Blofeld's doppelganger henchmen, too. Think
about
> it.
I did, and I don't think the were altering Telly Savalas' Blofeld at
all. How would Bond have recognized him?
> TMWTGG #2: Bond's car flips over and back upright again in DAD as in
> TMWTGG.
TMWTGG #3: Moon demonstrating his new "big gun" by blowing up Bond's
aircraft
> TSWLM #2: Cars are upended and crash vertically... near innocent
> workers... for a laugh for the viewing movie audience.
I didn't feel that was done for a laugh in DAD.
> Never Say Never Again: I am hoping that finding a woman in bed with
a
> knife as in both films is merely a coincidence. ;) It takes skill
for
> Bond NOT to imitate his own films at this point.
I honestly doubt that EON would reference NSNA
> A View To A Kill: Lawrence Makoare plays "Mr. Kil," a "name to die
> for." (Bond was meeting Mr. Kil with a view to killing him later!)
Ooooh is that ever a stretch ;)
> TLD #4: Working as an MI-6 sniper, Bond is about to kill his quarry
> when his shot is blocked. As in the film and original Fleming short
> story where Bond hesitates to kill a woman, perhaps Bond hesitates
in
> DAD because Miranda Frost enters his sights and he cannot therefore
> "see" Moon clearly. Watch the new film closely here. I think the
> insider reference is implied.
I saw this more as an LTK reference, and I think that since he knows
by this point that Miranda is the one who betrayed him I don't think
he'd have hesitated for an instant to put a bullet in her. She does
block his shot, but it's not because shes a woman that he doesn't pop
her.
> GoldenEye #2: Jinx's struggle to right the falling helicopter is
> almost a straight mimic of Bond's attempts to right his plane in the
> opener of GoldenEye. Both pilots are successful in averting
disaster,
> of course.
Jinx's struggle to right the falling helicopter? I though Bond righted
the helicopter, Jinx tries to right the plane ala Pussy Galore.
> John Gardner's License Renewed: Bond is a "blunt instrument" who
> serves M and England in that disagreeable but necessary capacity.
I could be wrong, but I'm reasonably certain that this goes back to
one of the Fleming works.
Can someone confirm or deny?
> Insider Joke #1: Quartermaster tells Bond about his Omega [and also
> The Bond films], "...That's about 20 of them now, isn't it?" Bond
> replies, "...Has it been that many?" [watches bond has lost and also
> 20 Bond films over 40 years?]
> Other #2: Roger Moore's daughter, Deborah, makes a cameo appearance
> onscreen in DAD.
Where? I'm seeing it again tomorrow, and since I don't know what she
looks like I need a point of reference.
Nice work.
EagleBill
Bond: "You're joking"
Q: "As I learned from my predecessor, I never joke about my work 007."
John Moore
> FRWL #3: Bond sniffs unappreciatively at Rosa Klebb's knife shoe,
> inside Quartermaster's lab.
>
Did I spot the FRWL briefcase right there too?
> Goldfinger #4: All of DAD clearly homages Godlfinger in visual style,
> parsing down of dialogue to minimum as needed to move plot, zippy and
> quirky soundtrack (remember Vic FLick strumming a banjo in
> Goldfinger), etc. Hey, if you are gong to remake a film 17 times, do
> it right the 17th time. Hooray!
Not sure if this was an intentional nod to GF.
> Thunderball: Bond used Q's "rebreather" in both films, discarding them
> after use onscreen in both films, swimming this time "beneath the ice"
> (pun intended), which reminds viewers of Largo's covered swimming pool
> in terms of a confined space.
I think the first part is right, but the Largo covered swimming pool may
have been unintentional.
> O.H.M.S.S. Speed-up/slow-down editing with sounds effects attached
> plus crash-cutting/Peter Hunt style editing
I would not call th is an OHMSS reference.
> DAF #4: Scorpions in titles and Bond's tortures bring back Mr. Wint
> and Mr. Kidd. Hooray!
I doubt seriously this was an intentional Wint and Kidd nod.
> DAF #5: (They picked one of my favorite 007 films to homage
> continually! Hey, I have my reasons why I like it!) The Cuban clinic
> scene mimics DAF's opener with the masked doctors seeking to alter
> both a villain's (Graves') and a henchman's (Zao's) facial features.
> It wasn't merely Telly Savalas' Blofeld they were altering to Charles
> Gray's features but Blofeld's doppelganger henchmen, too. Think about
> it.
What. They did not alter Telly's Blofeld to Charles Gray's. Blofeld was
supposed to always look like Gray.
> LALD #2: A black American agent sleeps with Bond before he comes to
> understand her true identity/allegiance. (Jinx Johnson's strong
> character reminded me strongly of the delightful and strong in
> real-life Gloria Hendry.)
Ummm...yeah, they are both black, but aside from that, I saw no parallels.
> TMWTGG #2: Bond's car flips over and back upright again in DAD as in
> TMWTGG.
I doubt this was intentional either. It is not even fully accurate.
> TSWLM #2: Cars are upended and crash vertically... near innocent
> workers... for a laugh for the viewing movie audience.
How is this a SWLM reference?
> Moonraker #2: Colonel Moon's waterfall "death fall" an obvious homage
> to Jaws' waterfall "death fall" in Brazil Glastron Carlson sequence.
> Watch the camera angle and speeds in both sequences.
I just did not see this.
> For Your Eyes Only: Madonna both appears in film and sings title song,
> the second such double appearance, as Sheena Easton also appeared in
> her Bond film, over Maurice Binder's titles.
I doubt this was a direct reference to FYEO.
> Never Say Never Again: I am hoping that finding a woman in bed with a
> knife as in both films is merely a coincidence. ;) It takes skill for
> Bond NOT to imitate his own films at this point.
I did not take this as a reference either.
> A View To A Kill: Lawrence Makoare plays "Mr. Kil," a "name to die
> for." (Bond was meeting Mr. Kil with a view to killing him later!)
I DEFINITELY did not see this as a reference.
> TLD #4: Working as an MI-6 sniper, Bond is about to kill his quarry
> when his shot is blocked. As in the film and original Fleming short
> story where Bond hesitates to kill a woman, perhaps Bond hesitates in
> DAD because Miranda Frost enters his sights and he cannot therefore
> "see" Moon clearly. Watch the new film closely here. I think the
> insider reference is implied.
No. I have to disagree. The moving truck stopped him.
> GoldenEye #3: Bond is responsible for horrific damage to a villain's
> face.
I discount this one too.
> GoldenEye #4: The great expense of damages to Aston Martins and
> Ferraris raised eyebrows when the Xenia/Bond car chase was filmed.
> Xenia's car was originally to have been a yellow car. A yellow and a
> red sports car are trashed during the final scenes of DAD.
I do not see this one either.
> Tomorrow Never Dies: Jinx's cable and leather outfit are an almost
> direct lift of Wai Lin's. Note that Miranda Frost later comments on
> "Jinx's tailor!". This one is too good not to be true.
Ummm...not sure here.
> TND #2: An expatriate foreigner who is now a recognized member of
> British high society is the main villain, as in TWINE as well! In
> GoldenEye, the other of the four Brosnan Bonds, the villain is an
> expatriate Englishman!
I think this is due to a lack of creativity and not homages.
> The World Is Not Enough: Icarus was the son of Daedalus in Greek
> mythology. A father and son fly too close to the sun and are
> burned/fall to their deaths. Colonel Moon and his father die aboard a
> plane that uses sunlight as weaponry... The DAD plane is turned toward
> the "sunbeam" by Jinx before father and son die aboard the craft...
> Greek mythology as Bond plot. Reminiscent of "Elektra" King (daughter
> who slays father for Greek mythology as 007 plot). Also, Janus,
> two-faced god of Roman mythology is a simile for Alec Trelveyan's
> two-sided face in GoldenEye.
Oh man....now I REALLY think you are digging.
> Ian Fleming's Goldfinger: Korean henchmen and staff populate the
> villain's headquarters.
Well...duh. I mean...this was a story about NORTH KOREANS.
> Ian Fleming's Thunderball: Domino was enamored of the Players
> Cigarette's sailor character. A poster for Players Cigarettes appears
> in the London Underground MI-6 Headquarters!
I doubt this one too.
JOhn
LuckyAtLoveAgain
thunderball, where angelo becomes derval, and from daf where some imposter
becomes blofeld? an old technique given a high tech treatment.
John Moore
> > TMWTGG #2: Bond's car flips over and back upright again in DAD as in
> > TMWTGG.
>
> TMWTGG #3: Moon demonstrating his new "big gun" by blowing up Bond's
> aircraft
>
I am betting that's just a coincidence too. Not every thing was put in as
tributes.
J
UncleMike
> plus crash-cutting/Peter Hunt style editing (eliminating all
Ugh, this was the most onerous thiong in the flick. Clearly not an homage
but instead an attempt to look as cool and modern as Oldsmobile commercials.
Vader47000
time. ;)>>
How about Bond facing a firing squad and escaping at the last second, a la
Woody Allen?
<<Never Say Never Again: I am hoping that finding a woman in bed with a
knife as in both films is merely a coincidence. ;) It takes skill for
Bond NOT to imitate his own films at this point.>>
Well, Bond uses a jar of urine in his clinic fight in DAD, just as he did in
NSNA. If I'm not mistaken, that's what he throws to activate the magnet.
<<A View To A Kill: Lawrence Makoare plays "Mr. Kil," a "name to die
for." (Bond was meeting Mr. Kil with a view to killing him later!)>>
Well, the Bond glacier sky surfing sequence reminded me of Bond's "California
Girls" snowboard bit in the teaser ... both were pretty absurd.
> A View To A Kill: Lawrence Makoare plays "Mr. Kil," a "name to die
> for." (Bond was meeting Mr. Kil with a view to killing him later!)>>
How about Bond in bed with a black woman, and she's in the rare position of
being on top?
And let's not forget the Thunderball jet pack that is referenced again in the
gadget room
<<> TSWLM #2: Cars are upended and crash vertically... near innocent
> workers... for a laugh for the viewing movie audience.
How is this a SWLM reference?>>
The car with Jaws goes over a cliff during the car chase before Bond takes the
Lotus into the water. The car crashes vertically into a shack.
Also a possible Octopussy reference could be in the placement of the genetics
lab on a mysterious island just off the coast.
And another SWLM reference is the union jack parachute Graves flies in with.
Also, is it just me, or did the scene when Bond drops his heart rate seem
reminiscent of Derek Flint's favorite trick in the Flint movies?
And the plane with the glass panels seemed reminiscent of Dr. Evil's sub in the
last Austin Powers flick.
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Another possibly homage could be the location of the MI6 hospital in Hong
Kong Harbour, just like M's office on the sunken Queen Mary (?) in TMWTGG.
Also, in the Q scene, on the floor on the right-hand side of the door, you
see Q's robo-dog snooping device.
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John Martin
OHMSS point #1 I felt the Cuban Gene clinic to be more akin to
Blofelds clinic at Piz Gloria. It was run by the enemy, remember?
OHMSS point #2) The fact that there are references to the other films
is an homage to OHMSS, which was the first film where Bond picked up
artifacts of his past in great number (as he did here in Q's lab of
relics).
John Martin
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> for." (Bond was meeting Mr. Kil with a view to killing him later!)
I thought Graves was alot like Max Zorrin. Young,rich,bad temper and
he named his lazer after Max's Nag.
Phil7101
used an ashtray for destructive purposes in TND.
Roger James Thornton Brown
was called Icarus after the Greek story of the father and son (Icarus)
who flew too close to the sun.
BRIAN SMITH
> GoldenEye: We see Bond's laser watch cut an icy semi-circle in an
> almost exact duplicate of the move from the GoldenEye teaser sequence.
>
> GoldenEye #2: Jinx's struggle to right the falling helicopter is
> almost a straight mimic of Bond's attempts to right his plane in the
> opener of GoldenEye. Both pilots are successful in averting disaster,
> of course.
>
> GoldenEye #3: Bond is responsible for horrific damage to a villain's
> face.
>
> GoldenEye #4: The great expense of damages to Aston Martins and
> Ferraris raised eyebrows when the Xenia/Bond car chase was filmed.
> Xenia's car was originally to have been a yellow car. A yellow and a
> red sports car are trashed during the final scenes of DAD.
>
> GoldenEye #5: Bond begins his teaser mission alongside an MI-6
> colleague.
When Bond touches the knife on Klebb's shoe he says, "Point taken." A
reference to his meeting with M in Goldeneye perhaps?
John Moore
People...we're reading WAY too much into this.
Okay...what about when Bond walks into the hotel. A reference to
Thunderball when he walked into the hotel? Or what about when Bond drives
his car backwards...a reference to FYEO maybe? Or what about when Bond
wears a black turtleneck? A reference to LALD? Or when the cars are
speeding through the ice hotel...a reference to the parking garage scene in
TND?
See, references can be forced out of ANY moment in the film if you try. The
"Point taken" was just a bad joke moment.
John
John Moore
> How about where Bond uses the ashtray in the Hong Kong hotel as a weapon...he
> used an ashtray for destructive purposes in TND.
Again, I doubt this is a reference. It was just an article to pick up and
throw...to help out the FRWL moment.
John
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>>
>
> People...we're reading WAY too much into this.
>
> Okay...what about when Bond walks into the hotel. A reference to
> Thunderball when he walked into the hotel? Or what about when Bond
drives
> his car backwards...a reference to FYEO maybe? Or what about when
Bond
> wears a black turtleneck? A reference to LALD? Or when the cars
are
> speeding through the ice hotel...a reference to the parking garage
scene in
> TND?
>
> See, references can be forced out of ANY moment in the film if you
try. The
> "Point taken" was just a bad joke moment.
>
> John
>
Actually I think you're the one taking this too seriously. The OP
din't just ask fro intentional references.
He asked: "How many were not meant to be there but by coincidence
pulled from another film?"
We're not trying to say these thigs were meant to be there we're just
trying to have some fun here.
Lazenbyland
sure.
Surprised no-one spotted the OHMSS novel reference "Death for
Breakfast" said by Miranda Frost is one of the chapter titles in the
book when Bond wakes at iz Gloria up to hear a scream of one of the
guards who "fell" down the bobsleigh run.
EagleBill
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Actually that's been mentioned several times
Denise Perry
>Truly excellent list, Matt. Great job.
>
>A question. Is the Q-Branch gadget "ring finger sonic agitator" in any way
>a tip to the solex agitator in "The Man With The Golden Gun"?
>
Are they going to make any of these as Bond toys, kind of like the Harry Potter
vibrating broom? If so, I have to have one. ;-)
Denise Perry
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