Fight over woman's feeding tube leaves husband's life in limbo
Dr. Jai Maharaj
By Abby Goodnough
The New York Times
The Salt Lake Tribune
Saturday, November 01, 2003
Clearwater, Fla. - Michael Schiavo is 6 feet 6 inches,
with a scrub-brush mustache and a gold chain bearing the
crosses his parents wore. He is a nurse who works the
graveyard shift, often pulling into his driveway as his
neighbors walk their dogs in the moist Florida dawn. He
has a meticulously kept yard, a screened-in pool where
his friends sometimes gather, a golden retriever, a
girlfriend and a year-old daughter.
"My brother is a normal guy who this tragedy happened
to," said Brian Schiavo, one of the four brothers with
whom Schiavo shared an unremarkable childhood in
Levittown, Pa., near Philadelphia.
But because of the tragedy of Schiavo's wife, Terri, 39,
who suffered brain damage when she collapsed one night 13
years ago, Michael Schiavo is also at the center of one
of the most debated court cases in the nation. He wants
to remove her feeding tube, paving the way for her death
against the wishes of her parents and supporters who have
rallied to their cause.
For this, Schiavo, 40, has been depicted as a heartless
fiend.
As the case has gained prominence in recent months,
Schiavo has all but refused to tell his side of the story
publicly or answer the charges that his in-laws, and
people who have never met him, keep leveling. Through his
brother Brian and his lawyer, George Felos, he declined
to be interviewed for this article.
But as the latest round in the legal battle over Terri
Schiavo's fate begins, her husband's friends and
relatives are speaking out. They describe a man driven
from his home by death threats, who avoids going out in
public but for work and court dates. He will not divorce
his wife, marry his new love and get on with life, they
say, because of his determination to carry out his wife's
wish not to live in a vegetative state.
"He's got ethics and values that most people don't have,
much less the strength to adhere to them," said Russ
Hyden, a friend who said Michael Schiavo supported him
through his wife's death from cancer.
Schiavo was two years out of high school when he met
Theresa Marie Schindler in 1982, at Bucks County
Community College in Pennsylvania. She had been
overweight and frumpy until her senior year of high
school, when she started dieting, and Schiavo was her
first boyfriend, her family said.
The couple married in 1984, and two years later, decided
to move to St. Petersburg, Fla., into a condominium that
Terri Schiavo's parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, owned.
When they were not working -- he as a restaurant manager,
she as a clerk at Prudential -- they hung out by the pool
at their apartment complex or in St. Pete Beach, thick
with bars and dance clubs.
While Michael Schiavo's family describes those early
years of the marriage as carefree, the Schindlers -- who
moved to Florida around the time their daughter did --
say they became dark. Michael Schiavo was a penny pincher
who kept track of the mileage on his wife's car and
yelled at her for spending money on haircuts, they said.
The Schindlers say that on Feb. 25, 1990, Terri Schiavo
told her brother that she and Schiavo had had a violent
argument -- a claim Michael Schiavo denies. Michael
Schiavo says his wife was asleep when he arrived home
from work. In a rare interview on "Larry King Live," he
said he awoke at 4:30 a.m. and heard a thud. It was his
wife, whom he found on the floor, he said.
By the time paramedics arrived, Schiavo's heart had not
pumped for perhaps 10 minutes, doctors found. The
prevailing theory is that she had an undiagnosed
potassium deficiency, possibly from extreme weight loss
or even, her husband has said, bulimia. She had gone from
more than 200 pounds in high school to 110 pounds.
The brain damage Schiavo suffered left her able to
breathe on her own but not to ingest food or drink.
Doctors have said she is in a persistent vegetative
state, meaning her eyes are open, but her brain is
incapable of emotion, memory or thought.
Brian Schiavo said his brother was determined to
rehabilitate his wife.
Michael Schiavo flew his wife to California for
treatment, sleeping on a cot beside her bed for a month.
He began studying nursing, to take better care of her. He
and his wife lived with the Schindlers for a while, and
he filed a malpractice suit against Terri Schiavo's
doctors for failing to diagnose her health problems. In
November 1992, the Schiavos won $1 million in damages:
$700,000 for her care, the rest for him.
When the check arrived, the war began. Both sides say
that on Valentine's Day, 1993, Michael Schiavo and his
father-in-law had an ugly fight in the nursing home where
Terri Schiavo was then living. The Schindlers say the
fight was about what kind of treatment the money would go
toward, with them advocating rigorous therapy and Schiavo
wanting only basic care. But Schiavo said it was because
Schindler wanted a cut of the settlement.
Schiavo's belief that his wife would recover had
evaporated by 1997, his supporters say, when he lost his
mother to cancer. But the other side points out that as
early as 1993, soon after he won the malpractice money,
Michael Schiavo did not want to treat an infection his
wife had developed and that he had stopped her
rehabilitation even earlier.
Only after his mother's death did Schiavo tell his in-
laws that on several occasions, his wife had said she
would not want to be kept alive artificially. The timing
of the revelation -- after he won the malpractice money
and after he began seeing Jodi Centonze, with whom he
would eventually have a child -- made the Schindlers
deeply suspicious.
For a long time, the Schindlers accused Schiavo of
wanting his wife dead so he could spend her settlement
money. But Michael Schiavo's lawyer said all but $60,000
has been spent on medical care and legal fees, and that
his client would not see a penny of what remains.
Brian Schiavo said his brother felt betrayed by everyone
from the Schindlers to the news media to Gov. Jeb Bush,
who used a law rushed through the Legislature recently to
order Schiavo's feeding tube reinserted. Schiavo has sued
to have the law ruled unconstitutional.
Source - http://www.sltrib.com/2003/Nov/11022003/nation_w/107599.asp
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It's obvious it was always only about money for Terri's
husband.
Posted on Sunday, November 2, 2003 by FairOpinion
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To - FairOpinion
Why can't the author of this piece find out how much
rehabilitation Terri has had? I'm sure she would be
surprised to find it is none. How about the truth?
Terri's parents have relinquished any claim to money.
They only want Michael not to seek Terri's death.
Posted on Sunday, November 2, 2003 by A-teamMom
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To - FairOpinion
Sounds like they are trying to make "poor" Michael the
victim instead of Terri.
Posted on Sunday, November 2, 2003 by
Left_Coast_Conservative
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To - FairOpinion
> Schiavo's belief that his wife would recover had
> evaporated by 1997, his supporters say, when he lost his
> mother to cancer. But the other side points out that as
> early as 1993, soon after he won the malpractice money,
> Michael Schiavo did not want to treat an infection his
> wife had developed and that he had stopped her
> rehabilitation even earlier.
Curious.
Posted on Sunday, November 2, 2003 by diotima
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To - FairOpinion
Shame on Abby Goodnough. Here's yet another example of
liberal media championing the possible second attempt at
murder of his wife by Michael Shiavo. Abby obviously
can't be bothered with the documented facts of this case,
but would rather paint Michael as the victim.
Excuse me, while I go puke.
Posted on Sunday, November 2, 2003 by demkicker
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To - FairOpinion
Geez, would everyone please leave this poor man alone.
All he wants to do is get on with his life. What's a
little strangulation and starvation for your mate? When
they took those vows, "til death do us part" Terri never
said she did not love him enough to die for his
convenience!!! You know, she may even ENJOY the
dehydration death! /sarcasm off/
God help us all.
Posted on Sunday, November 2, 2003 by netmilsmom
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To - FairOpinion
I saw this guy on Larry King. I could see why he does not
speak much publically. He comes across as a smarmy,
egotistical little snot. I think he had something to do
with what happened to this woman.
Posted on Sunday, November 2, 2003 by isthisnickcool
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To - FairOpinion
Ahh, this tragedy happened to widdle Mikey. Tissue,
please.
Posted on Sunday, November 2, 2003 by mtbopfuyn
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To - FairOpinion
> He is a nurse who works the graveyard shift
Yes, I know what this means, but in context it gave me a
chill, because it calls to mind that the Culture of Death
is inextricably combined with the practice (or the
distortion and malpractice) of medicine.
Just as in Hitler's Germany, the murder of the
handicapped and the innocent starts among the doctors.
Posted on Sunday, November 2, 2003 by Cicero (Marcus
Tullius)
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To - FairOpinion
> "My brother is a normal guy who this tragedy happened
> to," said Brian Schiavo,
Pity poor Michael. This terrible tragedy happened to HIM.
What a creep!!!
Posted on Sunday, November 2, 2003 by pgkdan
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To - FairOpinion
> It's obvious it was always only about money for Terri's
> husband.
What happened with the lawsuit money? It's not like she's
hooked up to any expensive machines. He should be given a
divorce freed of any financial obligations except what he
should pay back to her from the lawsuit money ----- I
don't think he spent all that money on her care.
Posted on Sunday, November 2, 2003 by FITZ
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To - FairOpinion
If he doesn't like limbo, all he has to do is divorce
her.
Posted on Sunday, November 2, 2003 by Let's Roll
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To - pgkdan; Hillary's Lovely Legs
Why can't any of you at least SEE another side. YES, the
tragedy happened to him too. You would be more credible
if you offered up arguments that weren't 100% emotion
driven.
Posted on Sunday, November 2, 2003 by Hildy
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To - Hildy
> Michael Schiavo was a penny pincher who kept track of the
> mileage on his wife's car and yelled at her for spending
> money on haircuts, they said.
It sounds like whatever life Terri did have with him was
quite miserable. She couldn't even have haircuts?
Posted on Sunday, November 2, 2003 by FITZ
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To - FairOpinion
FOR BETTER or for WORST, For RICHER or for POORER, IN
SICKNESS and in HEALTH !!!!!!!
Posted on Sunday, November 2, 2003 by Uncle George
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> Sounds like they are trying to make "poor" Michael the
> victim instead of Terri. -
yea my heart bleeds for the lowlife scumsucking SOB.
Posted on Sunday, November 2, 2003 by Free_at_last_-2001
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To - Hildy
We might be tempted to see another side if there was not
money involved, and Michael had not sworn, on the stand,
during the trial, he would spend his life taking care of
his wife. Plus, isn't it a little creepy he is with
another woman, has a child, while his wife is in a
persistent vegetative state?
Posted on Sunday, November 2, 2003 by stylin_geek
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To - FITZ
Things like this that are said years later are truly not
reliable. You can look at it another way: They were just
married, living in HER parents condo. Maybe he was
anxious to save money so they could be independent, a
trait most freepers would admire. Plus, sometimes women's
haircuts do cost alot more money than husbands could ever
imagine. When I first told my husband how much my salon
bill was he FLIPPED! Anyway, being cheap and being a
murderer are two different things.
Posted on Sunday, November 2, 2003 by Hildy
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To - Hildy
NIce try, Hildy, but no cigar soup for you!... You would
be more credible if you offered up arguments that weren't
100% emotion driven.Hildy Of the $750,000 placed in trust
for Terri's rehabilitation therapy and maintenance, how
much has her 'loving husband' spent on rehabilitation
therapy for Terri? And how much has his freindly judge,
Greer, authorized to be paid to the death watch atty,
Felos? And how many children has Michael Schiavo sired
with other women while still married to Terri? And ...
oh, never mind. Your heart is so dead, nothing will
penetrate the darkness.
Posted on Sunday, November 2, 2003 by MHGinTN
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To - stylin_geek
Plus --- if Terri had ever expressed her wish to die to
anyone else but him. Actually I think it's pretty
emotional to just KNOW that he remembers exactly what she
said she wanted 15 years late and not to question one
man's memory or supposed memory of what someone might
have said --- or might not have said since there is no
evidence in writing of it.
Posted on Sunday, November 2, 2003 by FITZ
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To - Hildy
> Things like this that are said years later are truly
> not reliable. Hildy
Things? You mean like things such as 'while watching Love
Story years ago, my wife said she would never want to be
kept alive on machines?' That what things you mean are
not reliable? You ghouls of 'mercy killing' are so
arbitrary with your pleas.
Posted on Sunday, November 2, 2003 by MHGinTN
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To - stylin_geek
Actually they have two children now - new baby just born.
Posted on Sunday, November 2, 2003 by firerosemom
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To - MHGinTN
Who has paid her bills over the past 10 years (I'm taking
out the past three years in the hospice)
Posted on Sunday, November 2, 2003 by Hildy
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To - Hildy
NIce try, again, dissembler. If you subtract the three
years prior to the lawsuit settlement, that leaves seven
(at best). And it will shock you to learn that much of
the three years of expenses was born by the Schindlers
and health insurance from prudential where Terri worked,
and they continued to pay during the years following the
settlement. But those facts aren't convenient to your
agenda to dehumanize Terri Schindler Schiavo, eh?
Posted on Sunday, November 2, 2003 by MHGinTN
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To - MHGinTN
I know I've made comments like I'd hate to spend my life
in a wheelchair --- and I'm sure someone might even
remember me saying that--- that doesn't mean I want to be
killed if I actually did end up in a wheelchair. Just now
I can't imagine living that way --- but that would likely
change if it became reality.
Posted on Sunday, November 2, 2003 by FITZ
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To - Hildy
Just out of curiosity, isn't Michael stating something
that Teri said on the couch watching t.v. called
"hearsay". I didn't think a conversation not witnessed by
anyone was admissable as evidence. With good reason.
Posted on Sunday, November 2, 2003 by Bogey
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To - Let's Roll
> If he doesn't like limbo, all he has to do is divorce
> her.
Exactly. He just has to admit the he is a weak
charactered slug and wants to break his vows instead of
working to kill her.
Posted on Sunday, November 2, 2003 by eskimo
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To - FairOpinion
Last week when Larry King asked Schiavo why he thought
Terri's parents were blocking his efforts to end Terri's
life, he smirked and replied, "To make my life hell."
Would that were true.
Posted on Sunday, November 2, 2003 by Dr. Eckleburg
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To - Hildy
Did Michael ever spend a dime of his own money (not even
counting the $300,000 he got for himself out of her
lawsuit? Was the $700,000 for her care actually spent
only on her ---- considering she never got rehab and
isn't hooked up to expensive machines, she only needed
some very basic nursing care --- maybe 2 or 3 hours a
day.
Posted on Sunday, November 2, 2003 by FITZ
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To - eskimo
> and wants to break his vows
He already broke his vows. Adultery is justification for
divorce in almost every religion ---- the breaking of his
marriage vows should free Terri from any claim to
ownership over her life he might have had.
Posted on Sunday, November 2, 2003 by FITZ
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To - Cicero
> He is a nurse who works the graveyard shift
Hmm.. Less supervision on that shift. I wonder if the
times of deaths at his hospital follow any recognizable
pattern. (Not implying anything, it's just a thought.)
Posted on Sunday, November 2, 2003 by TaxRelief
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To - FITZ
Yes, FITZ, it does change, I can assure you of that! I
once played tennis on teams and was a scratch golfer
hoping to try out for the senior tour when I turned
fifty. But before I made fifty, I became disabled, to the
extent that I cannot play tennis and can no longer even
travel the golf course in a cart and play nine holes. I
use the electric chiars in Wal-Mart and Lowe's, and I
must walk with a cane even in my own house, to catch
myself from falling. Fifteen years ago, I might have said
(and may have, though I don't recall it) that if I end up
in a wheelchair, just pass me my trusty .45 and a single
round, I'll take care of the rest. Now, with a beautiful
gift from God born into our home from my lovely step
daughter, and the writing I undertake, the love of family
and the return of same, I'd forego the earlier foolish
comments and continue to struggle onward.
Posted on Sunday, November 2, 2003 by MHGinTN
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To - Let's Roll
> If he doesn't like limbo, all he has to do is divorce
> her.
Somehow me thinks there may be favorable finances
involved that prevents him from divorcing.
Just speculation.
Posted on Sunday, November 2, 2003 by EGPWS
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To - FITZ
He already broke his vows. Adultery is justification for
divorce in almost every religion ----
You are correct but Terri can't speak for herself.
Posted on Sunday, November 2, 2003 by eskimo
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To - Hildy
How about we apply your analysis to Terri's supposed
comment to HINO, after seeing a 'tearjerker' movie about
someone on lifesupport, "I wouldn't want to live that
way"... (see boldface for modifications)
'Things like this that are said years later are truly not
reliable. You can look at it another way: They were just
married, living in HER parents condo. Maybe he was
anxious to save money so they could be independent, a
trait most freepers would admire. Plus, sometimes women's
(haircuts) rehab does cost alot more money than husbands
could ever imagine. When I first told my husband how much
my (salon bill)feeding tube and range-of-motion therapy
was he FLIPPED! Anyway, being cheap and being a murderer
are two different things.'
Posted on Sunday, November 2, 2003 by firerosemom
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To - FairOpinion
> For this, Schiavo, 40, has been depicted as a heartless
> fiend.
Well, if the ped's are size 9, and the shoe is size 9...
Posted on Sunday, November 2, 2003 by EGPWS
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I don't see how you can compare your situation with Ms.
Schiavo's. That's just bizarre.
Posted on Sunday, November 2, 2003 by Hildy
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To - Hildy
Who has paid her bills over the past 10 years?
She has paid them herself. She won that law suit.
Posted on Sunday, November 2, 2003 by TaxRelief
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To - TaxRelief
What's that got to do with anything? It's all coming out
of the same pot.
Posted on Sunday, November 2, 2003 by Hildy
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To - stylin_geek; Hildy
> We might be tempted to see another side if there was
> not money involved
There was also an amount of money that the husband said
he would need to perform the tasks that he outlined. The
lawsuit was for $20 million. The jury gave him 1/20th of
what he asked for and only gave him 1/10th of what they
themselves said it would take to care for Terri for 50
years and gave him less than 1/4th of the amount they
themselves said he would need to treat Terri for 17
years. She has now been alive in this vegetative state
for 13 years. Work the numbers, Terri got the most out of
every dollar she received.
Posted on Sunday, November 2, 2003 by RGSpincich
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To - RGSpincich
One of the things nobody has ever discussed is why there
was a malpractice suit in the first place.
Posted on Sunday, November 2, 2003 by Hildy
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To - FairOpinion
Note the point: "a girlfriend "
He's trying to hold onto the million. He has a girlfriend
- despite his marriage vows.
/**Sarcasm mode ON
Gee, I wonder why he want's Terri dead????
/**Sarcasm mode OFF
Posted on Sunday, November 2, 2003 by neutrino
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To - FairOpinion
He is a nurse who works the graveyard shift, often
pulling into his driveway as his neighbors walk their
dogs in the moist Florida dawn. He has a meticulously
kept yard, a screened-in pool where his friends sometimes
gather, a golden retriever, a girlfriend and a year-old
daughter
Got to keep up appearances for the courts ya know!
If he wants his "life", he should give Terris parents
custody - AND the MONEY to care for her...THEN go on
about "HIS" business.
He would not have the money if Terri was not disabled..
So the SOB can give it up if he wants a "new" life...
Posted on Sunday, November 2, 2003 by Roughneck
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To - Hildy
The malpractice jury held Terri 70% responsible for her
own collapse and subsequent vegetative state.
Posted on Sunday, November 2, 2003 by RGSpincich
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For this, Schiavo, 40, has been depicted as a heartless
fiend
It is what he IS!!!!!!!
Give up the money if you are "for real"
Hope his "supporters" read this/....
Posted on Sunday, November 2, 2003 by Roughneck
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To - Hildy
The malpractice suit is for the missed diagnosis of the
chemical imbalance that caused her collapse.
Posted on Sunday, November 2, 2003 by Conservative Me
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To - Hildy
Oh gee Hildy--you're a little socialist-democrat aren't
you?
The man is a PIG!!!!
And so are his supporters!
Posted on Sunday, November 2, 2003 by Roughneck
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To - MHGinTN
That's why I think living wills are pretty risky --- what
if you change your mind but your heirs won't let you?
Posted on Sunday, November 2, 2003 by FITZ
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To - FITZ
This situation is worse. There is no living will. I never
knew courts would allow this (removal of a feeding tube)
to happen without one.
My feeling is, though, that if you put it in your Will
you must have been pretty sure of your wishes, and if
your heirs are worthy, they would put your wishes before
their inheritance anyway.
Posted on Sunday, November 2, 2003 by Conservative Me
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But he has gone on with his life. He is a parent and his
wife is not!
Posted on Sunday, November 2, 2003 by Mfkmmof4
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To - FITZ
I have no idea about community property laws in FL, but I
think everyone may be forgetting that possibility. for
those who can't understand why he doesn't just walk away,
it may just be those self same community property laws.
Terri may just be entitled to half of everything he owns,
including the new house he bought with "his" half of the
settlement money. Understand it has a pool and he drives
a BMW.
Posted on Sunday, November 2, 2003 by texaslil
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To - Hildy
With a heart as cold as yours, I can see how the
comparison regarding 'finality of casual comment' does
escape you.
Posted on Sunday, November 2, 2003 by MHGinTN
To - texaslil
I post on another board and I have been called
hypocritical because I support this woman's being allowed
to die without being starved to death. But can someone
show where it says why she was resuscitated after 10
minutes. That is the arugmenet being used against me to
say God decided then that she died but was brought back.
I cannot backup any claims otherwise right now!
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To - FITZ
> they said.
Could someone tell me who this They Said person is? Seem
he always knows the truth about everything, but never has
any proof.
Posted on Sunday, November 2, 2003 by org.whodat
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> Fight over woman's feeding tube leaves husband's life in limbo
>
> By Abby Goodnough
> The New York Times
> The Salt Lake Tribune
> Saturday, November 01, 2003
> his friends sometimes gather, a golden retriever, a
> girlfriend and a year-old daughter.
A girlfriend and a daughter with this girlfriend. The man is still legally
married. Even though his wife wanted a divorce, and the family of the wife
wants him to divorce their daughter, the prick says no.
> But because of the tragedy of Schiavo's wife, Terri, 39,
> who suffered brain damage when she collapsed one night 13
> years ago, Michael Schiavo is also at the center of one
> of the most debated court cases in the nation. He wants
> to remove her feeding tube, paving the way for her death
> against the wishes of her parents and supporters who have
> rallied to their cause.
>
> For this, Schiavo, 40, has been depicted as a heartless
> fiend.
And he is. He may have caused her injuries that resulted in her present
condition. He did not want to pull the plug when Terri had nothing, now that
she has money in an account for her care, he as the only person with
something to gain, now wants to pull the feeding tube.