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Splashes from Hindu Mahasagar -- 6 - Facinating Hindu History

Splashes from Hindu Mahasagar -- 6

Facinating Hindu History

Pagan religions all over the world have used icons or symbols to
represent abstract and intangible objects. The fanciful gallery of
mythological deities in Biblical stories, Arabian Nights, and The
Canterbury Tales are collections of human imagination. Blowing of
strong wind would normally be indicated through waving trees, flying
of lighter objects and rising of dust. Similarly super human power of
gods and goddesses has been suggested through four arms, heads, and
other such embellishments. In this connection Hindu history has much
more to offer to the world as a piece of art and literature.

One of the most remarkable features of Hindu history is that unlike
other faiths, it is not confined to any area and time, but historical
characters have imprints left over the entire universe. There are
several descriptions related to inter-planetary movements of not only
of gods and goddesses, but also of sages and mortal beings. The gods,
goddesses and many of the sages are timeless and ever lasting. They
appear and disappear, are clad in glittering costumes, are powerful
and resourceful to grant boons and can inflict destruction through
curse as well. Every God possesses weapons to destroy the evil, as
well as flowers to shower blessings.

Hindus laid greater importance on the preservation of environment
also. Animals and useful plants such as Peepal, Beil, Tulsi, and
Banyan were associated with various gods and goddesses; to be loved,
nurtured, and even worshiped. Sources of water, mountains and other
elements of nature are also respected as gods and goddesses. Animals
were also included in history thereby recognizing their right to co-
exist with others. Even Pig and snakes, hated in other faiths find a
respectable place in Hindu history, since no one is under rated. Many
animals are associated with Gods as carriers. Some animals were given
the status of Gods and goddesses to impress that Omnipresence of the
Almighty.

Every religion has drawn its own concept of heaven and hell that are
comparable to the prevailing of the religion originated. Islamic
Heaven is cool, shady and has plenty of water sources fruit grow and
nymphs are on duty to serve the believers. There Hell is always
burning hot with lot many apparatus of torture in motion to punish
the non believers and worshipers of idols. On the contrary Biblical
Heaven has Sun shine, and their hell is full of Ice. All the
religions have placed heaven above and Hell below. The administration
of heavenly sites is in the hands of Devas, Angles, Nymphs, Hoors and
Apasras who are well versed in the art of dressing up, dancing and
music. Like wise in Hinduism pious people reside in Swarga and
sinners in Narka irresective of their being believers or non-
believers. The only difference is that Narka residents have chances
of relocating themselves in Swarga with good deeds done when they are
reborn. Propagators of religion not believing in re-birth have no
option of relocating even if they atoned later and desired to do some
good.

Though Hindus believe in one God, but view the same God in three
different modes while in action and that is known as the Trinity of
Supreme God:

Brahm is the Creator God. He is traditionally depicted with four
heads, faces and arms. Each head recites one of the four Vedas. The
hands hold a water-pot used in creating life, a string of rosary
beads used to keep track of the Universe's time, the text of the
Vedas, and a lotus flower. He is the husband of goddess Saraswati.
His mount is Hamsa (Swan). Brahm only occasionally interferes in the
affairs of the gods, and even more rarely in mortal affairs. He is
generally painted old, probably to signify that creativity, wisdom,
and experience without resources and power is like an old and
helpless person.

Vishnu is known as preserver. He is usually depicted as a four-armed
humanoid with blue skin, often sitting or resting on a lotus flower
or relaxing on Sheshnag bed with Lakshami (goddess of wealth) in
attendance, indicating a person possessing everything of ultimate
luxury. His mount is Garuda. He is identified with his Avatars
(Incarnations) to re-establish orderliness in the World.

Shiv is the destroyer. Shiv is represented as immersed in deep
meditation, on Mount Kailash. However, even though he represents
destruction, he is viewed as a positive force, the Destroyer of Evil.
His vahan (mount) is 'Nandi', the Bull. He is usually represented by
the symbol of Shiv ling. His consort is 'Parvati', a goddess who
comes in many different forms, one of whom is Kaali, the goddess of
death. As Nataraj Shiv is the Lord of the Dance, and also symbolizes
the dance of the Universe, with all its delicately balanced heavenly
bodies and natural laws which complement and balance each other. He
is also symbolized as doing his great dance of destruction, called
Taandava signifying praleya -- the doom's day, implying total
dissolution of the universe.

All the three reflections are in fact one God performing three
different functions of creation, preservation and finally destruction
same way as a human can be son to the parents, husband to the wife,
and parent of his children. All the three separate functions are
performed by the same person but the person is viewed differently by
his parents, wife and children. The concept of Trinity wraps in
itself the 'Theory of division of power' that was propounded by
Montesquieu of France, much later. Supreme God is personified into
the Trinity of Brahm Vishnu and Shiv. While Brahm, Vishnu and Shiv
function within their respective areas of creativity, preservation,
and destruction respectively and do not trespass or interfere in to
the field of each other's. They consult each other whenever there is
any crisis in the universe. Thus 'Government of the Universe'
reflects 'division of power' as well as 'interdependence' that
Montesquieu preached to the political thinkers of the west in
ninteenth century.

Hindu supreme Gods are not confined to any geopgraphical place and
period. They neither have any beginning or any ending. They are
universal.

Chand K Sharma

End of forwarded message from Chand K Sharma

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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Franz Gnaedinger

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That false doctor who calls himself Jai Maharaj is again
trying to suffocate sci.lang. Is it a coincidence that he began
his new campaign of massive abusement of our scientific group
around New Year, in sight of 2012 ? year of the alleged end of
the Mayan calendar, in reality a false claim based on a wrong
calculation, and even if the long calendar cycle of the Maya
ended in 2012 it would not mean the end of the world, just
a new calendar cycle. The year 2012 makes astrologers
creep out of their holes, they can frighten people again and
sell them their horoscopes. That false doctor Jai Maharaj
sells horoscopes and abuses our forum for making propaganda
for his astrological firm, pretending that he posts in favor of
the Hindu community, while in fact seeing his marekting niche
among those people he apparently believes are especially
prone to superstition, and therefroe the right and yielding
target of his astrological enterprise.

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Franz Gnaedinger

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Repeating my message because that false doctor Jai Maharaj
is spamming sci.lang at an increasing rate.

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Franz Gnaedinger

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He is decided to ruin sci.lang.

johnk

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On Jan 6, 1:15 pm, Franz Gnaedinger <f...@bluemail.ch> wrote:

> He is decided to ruin sci.lang.

Correction: He HAS decided, not IS decided.

You are two peas in a pod.

Franz Gnaedinger

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That false doctor of the false name goes on with his
massive attack of sci.lang, so I repeat my message again.

Franz Gnaedinger

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That false doctor of the false name goes on and on
abusing sci.lang.

johnk

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On Jan 12, 12:25 am, Franz Gnaedinger <f...@bluemail.ch> wrote:

> That false doctor of the false name goes on and on
> abusing sci.lang.

I ignore his threads. At least he doesn't take over legitimate
discussions with his own make-believe non-sense, eh Franz?

harmony

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"johnk" <jhoba...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:5f460b6a-1d8a-48fa...@m3g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...

if you learn to speak sanskrit, you will understand it all better. it is
really not that hard.


Trond Engen

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harmony:

> "johnk":


>
>>> That false doctor of the false name goes on and on
>>> abusing sci.lang.
>>
>> <<I ignore his threads. At least he doesn't take over legitimate
>> discussions with his own make-believe non-sense, eh Franz?>>
>
> if you learn to speak sanskrit, you will understand it all better. it
> is really not that hard.

Hahaha! Tell that to your Guru Raj. In English.

--
Trond Engen

Panu

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On Jan 12, 8:27 pm, "harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "johnk" <jhobartk...@gmail.com> wrote in message

I would not be surprised to know johnk speaks better sanskrit than Jay
Stevens the fake-Indian from Hawaii.

johnk

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I don't know sanskrit. If he posts anything linguistic I wouldn't
know, all I see are off topic posts about priests raping children so I
just ignore him. At least he doesn't take over legitimate threads.

hab...@anony.net

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He has to be a Pakistani ISI agent out to give Indians a bad
name.

Panu

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On Jan 14, 3:57 pm, hab...@anony.net wrote:
>         He has to be a Pakistani ISI agent out to give Indians a bad
> name.

Hey, that occurred to me already. Probably his Pakhto is better than
his Sanskrit.

Franz Gnaedinger

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On and on that false doctor of the false name goes
abusing sci.lang, spammiing our scientific forum,
often with messages on child abuse by Christian
missionaries. This has nothing to do with linguistics,
and reveals a cynic calculation. Who can say anything
against a protest against child abuse? If you protest
against his spamming you are revealed as someone
who secretly supports child abuse, and so, he hopes,
nobody will speak up against his abuse of sci.lang,
instead, belonging to the accused western world,
we are supposed to crumble away in shame and
allow him to go on with his massive attack on our
forum. But he didn't count with me. I raise my voice
against every religious propaganda in here, also
Christian one, I spoke against missioning all my life,
quoting Matthew 7:16: "Ye shall recognize them
by their fruits" - what counts are not words but what
people do, how they live, what example they give.
And most of all I write against child abuse and child
pornography especially in the web, my reasoning
based on my theory of the two pillars of the law.
A couple of years ago I sent a paper of mine to the
top chief of the Zurich police. A minor chief told me
that my letters contain useful ideas. I am active in
these fields, I don't crumble away before the implicit
accusations of that false doctor of the false name
and his cynic calculation that he can make money
out of child abuse, pretending to care for the Hindu
community while all he has in mind is to catch
new customers for his astrological enteprise.

johnk

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Was it a request for early release from the ward?

>A minor chief told me
> that my letters contain useful ideas. I am active in
> these fields,

Wow, so you believe a cop but don't trust experts? Your ramblings are
not at all useful since there is no methodology.

Franz Gnaedinger

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He goes on suffocating sci.lang

Franz Gnaedinger

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A few days away because I had a flu, and sci.lang
is choked by messages of that sociopath of the
false title and false name.

johnk

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On Feb 1, 12:40 am, Franz Gnaedinger <f...@bluemail.ch> wrote:
.
>
> A few days away because I had a flu, and sci.lang
> is choked by messages of that sociopath of the
> false title and false name.

And you are going to choke it more with your crap.

António Marques

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Franz Gnaedinger wrote (01-02-2010 06:40):

> A few days away because I had a flu, and sci.lang is choked by messages
> of that sociopath of the false title and false name.

See what can happen if you leave us for a second?

Franz Gnaedinger

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A sociopath fools people about his intentions. That
particular sociopath who calls himself Dr. Jai Maharaj,
using a false name and adorning it with a false title,
pretends to defend the cause of the Hindu community
while just boosting his astrological business, fishing
for clients among the Hindus he apparently considers
an especially superstitious bunch of people. That
sociopath should not be encouraged by another -path,
namely my longtime stalker of the many aliases,
Panu Petteri Höglund alias John Bulkington alias
Patrick Karl alias craoibhin66 alias he himself as his
own good friend and pupil Sean Connor soconn1
alias he himself as his own brother in arms and
stalking aide John Hobart Kyle jhobartkyle johnk
alias he himself as his own bride Annina Kaartinen
alias a Rumanian professor who claims to have
discovered the origin of language alias he himself
as his own bride Maria Kupari.

Franz Gnaedinger

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I will repeat my messages as long as the new attack
is going on.

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Forwarded message from Chand K Sharma

Splashes from Hindu Mahasagar -- 6 - Fascinating Hindu History

Franz Gnaedinger

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That sociopath Jay Stevens who calls himself
Jai Maharaj and adorns his false name with a false
title goes on massively spamming sci.lang, of the 30
threads presently on the first page of the topics list
15 are by him. I will go on repeating what I have to
say about him, in previous messages quoted below.
My word has a weight, also among the Hindu
community, for I am pointing out the value of Indian
mathematics, I worked about the Harappan tablets,
I can prove that there is a direct line from Harappa
to the Vedic religion, and I can take it up with Dr.
Steve Farmer, assistant of Witzel. Dr. Farmer
felt sorry for me that I believe the nonsense of
Asko Parpola, there being a gap of two thousand
years between 'Pashupati' and the first mentioning
of Murukan. But my work is here to stay, I can show
that the RigVeda go straight back to the mythology
of Ice Age Eurasia. So my word will have a weight
in these matters, my messages will be read again,
and I can tell for sure that Jay Steves who is at present
carrying out his second long-term massive attack on
sci.lang is a sociopath, and a cynic at that, fishing
for clients among the Hindus he considers a particularly
superstitious bunch, trying to win them for his astological
business. He pretends to be defending the Hindu cause,
but he is just making money, and he doesn't care whether
a newsgroup is choked by him, not even if that newsgroup
is seriously concerned with the culture of ancient India,
and providing new and fascinating links between Harappa
and the RigVeda, outwitting Witzel and his adlatus Farmer.
No, that sociopath Jay Stevens aka Dr. Jai Maharaj doesn't
care at all, all he cares about is the money he sucks in
from Hindu clients whom he makes believe his astro-crap.

Franz Gnaedinger

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Jay Stevens who calls himself Jai Maharaj and
adorns his false name with a false title pretends
to engage himself for the Hindu community
while all he cares for is the cash he can suck out
of his Hindu clientele whom he considers particularly
prone to superstition, prime material to be ground
in his astrological mill. He found the (almost) perfect
scheme of turning the misery of other people into
money. And he feels that his pseudo-engagement
gives him the right to ruin sci.lang. Jay Stevens
aka Dr. Jai Maharaj is a capital sociopath, a cynic
and a cancer combined.

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Franz Gnaedinger

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Franz Gnaedinger

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Dusan, where are you? We need your help in getting
rid of Jay Stevens alias Dr. Jai Maharaj whom you
call a sad monkey. This morning 20 of 30 threads
on the title page of the Google topics list are by him.
Everything is false about him, his Usenet name,
his title, his pretended engagement for the Hindu
community, his pretended compassion for abused
children. His only concern is to acquire clients who
pay good money for his astrological nonsense,
and he coldly calculates that he can find them
among Hindus: they are many, they are prone
to superstition, and, being of a minor intelligence,
he thinks, they won't see through his cynic scheme
and find out what he really has in mind.

Franz Gnaedinger

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Dusan, where are you?

johnk

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This thread of Dr. J's would be long gone if not for some idiot who
keeps bringing it back. Igonore his threads. He types headers in all
caps so his posts are easy to see and ignore......unlike other trolls.

Franz Gnaedinger

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Seven messages in crying titles yesterday. Does the
sociopath now feel a martyr because I maintain this thread,
allowing him to post ever more messages, making ever
more money?

Franz Gnaedinger

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The abuse of sci.lang by the sociopath of the false
name and false title and false engagement encourages
others to abuse our forum for commercial purposes,
see the many sex threads started yesterday.

Franz Gnaedinger

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Franz Gnaedinger

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The sociopath goes on and on and on abusing sci.lang.
I will take measures soon.

Franz Gnaedinger

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Time to revive this thread, and to prepare action
against that sociopath Jay Stevens aka Dr. Jai Maharaj
who adorns his false name with a false title and believes
he can abuse our scientific forum for his concealed
interest of making money, a real interest hid behind
a false engagement.

> The sociopath goes on and on and on abusing sci.lang.
> I will take measures soon.
>
> > The abuse of sci.lang by the sociopath of the false
> > name and false title and false engagement encourages
> > others to abuse our forum for commercial purposes,
> > see the many sex threads started yesterday.
>
> > > Seven messages in crying titles yesterday. Does the
> > > sociopath now feel a martyr because I maintain this thread,
> > > allowing him to post ever more messages, making ever
> > > more money?
>
> > > > Dusan, where are you?
>
> > > > > Dusan, where are you? We need your help in getting

> > > > > rid ofJayStevensalias Dr. Jai Maharaj whom you


> > > > > call a sad monkey. This morning 20 of 30 threads
> > > > > on the title page of the Google topics list are by him.
> > > > > Everything is false about him, his Usenet name,
> > > > > his title, his pretended engagement for the Hindu
> > > > > community, his pretended compassion for abused
> > > > > children. His only concern is to acquire clients who
> > > > > pay good money for his astrological nonsense,
> > > > > and he coldly calculates that he can find them
> > > > > among Hindus: they are many, they are prone
> > > > > to superstition, and, being of a minor intelligence,
> > > > > he thinks, they won't see through his cynic scheme
> > > > > and find out what he really has in mind.
>

> > > > > >JayStevenswho calls himself Jai Maharaj and


> > > > > > adorns his false name with a false title pretends
> > > > > > to engage himself for the Hindu community
> > > > > > while all he cares for is the cash he can suck out
> > > > > > of his Hindu clientele whom he considers particularly
> > > > > > prone to superstition, prime material to be ground
> > > > > > in his astrological mill. He found the (almost) perfect
> > > > > > scheme of turning the misery of other people into
> > > > > > money. And he feels that his pseudo-engagement
> > > > > > gives him the right to ruin sci.lang.JayStevens
> > > > > > aka Dr. Jai Maharaj is a capital sociopath, a cynic
> > > > > > and a cancer combined.
>

> > > > > > > That sociopathJayStevenswho calls himself


> > > > > > > Jai Maharaj and adorns his false name with a false
> > > > > > > title goes on massively spamming sci.lang, of the 30
> > > > > > > threads presently on the first page of the topics list
> > > > > > > 15 are by him. I will go on repeating what I have to
> > > > > > > say about him, in previous messages quoted below.
> > > > > > > My word has a weight, also among the Hindu
> > > > > > > community, for I am pointing out the value of Indian
> > > > > > > mathematics, I worked about the Harappan tablets,
> > > > > > > I can prove that there is a direct line from Harappa
> > > > > > > to the Vedic religion, and I can take it up with Dr.
> > > > > > > Steve Farmer, assistant of Witzel. Dr. Farmer
> > > > > > > felt sorry for me that I believe the nonsense of
> > > > > > > Asko Parpola, there being a gap of two thousand
> > > > > > > years between 'Pashupati' and the first mentioning
> > > > > > > of Murukan. But my work is here to stay, I can show
> > > > > > > that the RigVeda go straight back to the mythology
> > > > > > > of Ice Age Eurasia. So my word will have a weight
> > > > > > > in these matters, my messages will be read again,

> > > > > > > and I can tell for sure thatJaySteves who is at present


> > > > > > > carrying out his second long-term massive attack on
> > > > > > > sci.lang is a sociopath, and a cynic at that, fishing
> > > > > > > for clients among the Hindus he considers a particularly
> > > > > > > superstitious bunch, trying to win them for his astological
> > > > > > > business. He pretends to be defending the Hindu cause,
> > > > > > > but he is just making money, and he doesn't care whether
> > > > > > > a newsgroup is choked by him, not even if that newsgroup
> > > > > > > is seriously concerned with the culture of ancient India,
> > > > > > > and providing new and fascinating links between Harappa
> > > > > > > and the RigVeda, outwitting Witzel and his adlatus Farmer.

> > > > > > > No, that sociopathJayStevensaka Dr. Jai Maharaj doesn't

Me, ...again!

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(see quoted material at end)

You guys could consider spamming his spam, thus flushing all his crap by
dillution.

Also, edit sci.lang off the cross post list but add insults designed to
attract his response and hope he does not edit back on your s.l ng.

There are hacker approaches to slowing down his spam but you'd have to be
very careful to keep yourself concealed.

Also, since he represents being a "Vedic Astrology" (for hire?), you could
also promote the idea that anyone can find free astrology services on the
internet, thus, maybe, undercutting his astrology business.

I can't think of anything more useless than astrology except, maybe, being
homeless. Maybe he's really homeless? All his obsession with sex abuse by
Christian clergy is a hint that he was sexually abused by one when he was
a kid and all this is "payback." Maybe he needs to see a shrink?

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Franz Gnaedinger

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Jay Stevens alias Dr. Jai Maharaj, adorning his false name
with a false title, pretends to engage himself for the Hindu
community while all he cares for is the money he makes
via his astrological enterprise, fishing for Hindu clients,
because the Hindi are numerous, and especially prone
to superstition, he believes. A sociopath fools people
about his intentions while pursuing his own interests.
Jay Stevens alias Dr. Jai Maharaj is a classical sociopath.
He believes that he found the almost perfect scheme of
turning even child abuse into money. And he most freely
abuses our scientific forum of sci.lang. He is now leading
his second long-time attack on our scientific forum, more
aggressively than ever. Must have to do with the approaching
year 2012 that makes astrologers crazy and creep out of
their holes: another magic year to freighten people and thus
make money!

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Image of Hindutva overshadowed real meaning
Tuesday, 23 March 2010

New Delhi, March 22: BJP President Gadkari denounced as propaganda
that Hindutva was against Muslims and said facts were misrepresented.

Terming Hindutva as the "spirit" of BJP, party President Nitin Gadkari
today said it cannot be a subject of political debate and lamented
that its image had overshadowed its real meaning.

"Whether someone likes it or not, the subject has been a matter of
debate for the last 40 years in politics. I feel people should know
the reality (of what Hindutva means) after serious thinking.

"It is a tragedy of image versus reality. Letters can change but not
the spirit. Hindutva is our philosophy, it is our spirit... which
cannot change," Gadkari said during the 'dedication ceremony' of over
100 professionals as volunteers for the BJP.

The function was followed by a talk on 'politics and Hindutva' in
which Gadkari said Hindutva cannot be a subject of political debate
and it can never be an agenda for any political party.

He termed as "propaganda" that Hindutva was against Muslims and said
people were "misrepresenting" the facts to further their vested
interests.

Maintaining that BJP was in favour of equality in social and economic
spheres for all, he said "We believe in the philosophy of 'vasudev
kutumbhkam' (world is one family)."

Gadkari alleged that "pseudo secularists" were deliberately attaching
religion with a terrorist and said the term 'secularism' is now being
used for minority appeasement.

"... terrorist has no creed, caste or religion.

Image of Hindutva overshadowed real meaning
Tuesday, 23 March 2010

A god fearing Hindu will not kill an innocent Muslim and similarly, a
god fearing Muslim will not kill an innocent Hindu, and if he is doing
so, then he is a terrorist who does not belong to any religion," he
said.

The BJP president said in a secular country, the government, the
judiciary and the media should be secular but an individual cannot be
secular.

He said it was necessary that the new generation was taught the real
meaning of Hindutva, adding, "A proper focus on the issue is the need
of the hour".

Speaking on the issue, RSS ideologue M G Vaidya said he had expressed
"concern" when Sudhendra Kulkarni, the close aide of BJP leader L K
Advani wrote after the party defeat in general elections that it
should distance itself from Hindutva.

He lamented that the "spirit" remained ignored but at the same time
appreciated that it was being remembered once again in 2010.

Vaidya said for BJP, distancing itself from Hindutva would mean
distancing itself from RSS and its core values.

He recalled that when the issue of BJP's relations vis-a-vis Hindutva
was being debated in 2004, he had said that BJP has moved along a
particular line from where it would not be appropriate to pull it
back.

"I had said that if BJP disassociates itself from Hindutva, then the
RSS would take a call on whether to keep Hindutva in politics or not,"
Vaidya said.

The BJP president said in a secular country, the government, the
judiciary and the media should be secular but an individual cannot be
secular.

He said it was necessary that the new generation was taught the real
meaning of Hindutva, adding, "A proper focus on the issue is the need
of the hour".

Speaking on the issue, RSS ideologue M G Vaidya said he had expressed
"concern" when Sudhendra Kulkarni, the close aide of BJP leader L K
Advani wrote after the party defeat in general elections that it
should distance itself from Hindutva.

He lamented that the "spirit" remained ignored but at the same time
appreciated that it was being remembered once again in 2010.

Vaidya said for BJP, distancing itself from Hindutva would mean
distancing itself from RSS and its core values.

He recalled that when the issue of BJP's relations vis-a-vis Hindutva
was being debated in 2004, he had said that BJP has moved along a
particular line from where it would not be appropriate to pull it
back.

"I had said that if BJP disassociates itself from Hindutva, then the
RSS would take a call on whether to keep Hindutva in politics or not,"
Vaidya said.

---IANS--

http://www.siasat.com/english/news/image-hindutva-overshadowed-real-meaning

Nityananda files writ in Karnataka High Court
Tuesday, 23 March 2010

Bangalore, March 23: Self-styled godman Nityananda Swami, facing
allegations of involvement in sleazy activities, has filed a writ
petition before the Karnataka High Court seeking quashing of cases
filed against him by the Ramanagar district police.

Nityananda, who is at large ever since the video clippings of his
alleged sleaze activities involving an actress were telecast by
private channels on March two, contended in his petition yesterday
that he was innocent. 32-year-old Nityananda, alias Rajasekharan,
charged that one of his former discipline and driver Kurup Lenin had
conspired to defame him and his Ashram by levelling such allegations.

The whereabouts of Nityananda are a mystery. However, the followers of
Nityananda at his Ashram at Bidadi on the city's outskirts claim that
he is in Haridwar attending the Kumbh Mela. The writ is yet to come up
for the High Court registry, according to sources in the High Court.

Tamil Nadu police, which had registered cases under various sections,
including rape, against Nityananda, transferred them to the police in
Ramanagar, as the Ashram falls under it. Ramanagar police had re-
registered the cases against Nityananda.

-PTI

http://www.siasat.com/english/news/nityananda-files-writ-karnataka-high-court

No decision on direct access to Headley yet: US envoy
Tuesday, 23 March 2010

New Delhi, March 23: The US said Tuesday there had been no decision to
give India "direct access" to David Coleman Headley, the Pakistani
American terror suspect who has confessed to his role in the 26/11
Mumbai terror strike.

In a statement issued by the US embassy here, Ambassador Timothy J.
Roemer clarified Assistant Secretary of State Robert O. Blake's
comment in Delhi Saturday. Blake had been asked by reporters if Indian
investigators would be allowed to quiz Headley. "My answer would be
yes," he said.

"As the Assistant Secretary indicated, the US is committed to full
information sharing in our counter terror partnership. In fact in this
case we have provided substantial information to the government of
India and we will continue to do so. However, no decision on direct
access for India to David Headley has been made," Roemer said in a
statement.

He added that the US department of justice will work with the Indian
government "regarding the modalities of such cooperation".

Indian Home Minister P. Chidambaram had been upbeat about getting
access to Headley, after a phone call with US Attorney General Eric
Holder.

"It is my understanding," Chidambaram said, "that India would be able
to obtain access to Headley to question him in a properly constituted
judicial proceeding. Such a judicial proceeding could be either pre-
trial or during an inquiry or trial."

The National Investigation Agency was asked to form a team which will
travel to the US to interrogate Headley, who confessed in a Chicago
court to his role in the Mumbai terror attack that left 166 people
dead.
--IANS

http://www.siasat.com/english/news/no-decision-direct-access-headley-yet-us-envoy

Foreigners in Maharashtra will have to undergo a 'character' check
Tuesday, 23 March 2010

Mumbai, March 23: The government has come up with the idea of
assessing the character of foreigners staying in the state and keeping
a strict vigil on their activities.

"We will check the records of foreigners and seek character
certificates from their respective countries," home minister RR Patil
said in the legislative council on Monday. "If we find that they have
a dubious record, we will ask their countries to take them back."

Patil was replying to a calling-attention motion on last month's
German Bakery blast in Pune. The issue of foreigners was raised by the
Shiv Sena's Neelam Gorhe. "What steps has the government taken to keep
a check on foreigners," she asked.

Patil said, "We have already started checking foreigners' visas and
taking action against suspect people." He appealed to citizens to
alert the police if they spotted anything suspicious.

The police already have a rule in place that requires flat-owners in
Mumbai to inform them if they give out their premises toforeigners.
Hotels and lodges in the city have also been told to inform the police
about guests from abroad. The owner of a South Mumbai flat, where US
terrorist David Coleman Headley stayed for more than six months, had
failed to inform police about his presence in the city.

Patil admitted in the council that the state had received specific
intelligence alerts about a possible terrorist strike at Chabad House
and Red Temple in Pune. On the day of the blast, chief minister Ashok
Chavan had said the state had had no inkling about a possible attack.
The Centre, however, said it had issued an alert in October 2009.

Patil asserted that the state police was competent to investigate the
German Bakery blast but would not hesitate to seek the help of other
agencies like the National Investigation Agency, CBI, IB, and the anti-
terrorism squads of other states. Last week, he had rejected an
opposition demand to hand over the probe to the CBI.
“Terrorists are changing their techniques every time," Patil said.

"We can neither deploy police everywhere nor frisk every single
person. There is only one solution — to strengthen the intelligence
system. For that we have set up the Maharashtra Intelligence Academy.
The first batch of this academy has completed its training and will be
operational soon."

---Agencies

http://www.siasat.com/english/news/foreigners-maharashtra-will-have-undergo-character-check

Muslim marriage age issue: Bombay HC notice to Centre
Tuesday, 23 March 2010

Mumbai, March 23: The Bombay High Court today issued a notice to the
additional solicitor general who represents union government in a case
where marriageable age of Muslim girls has become an issue.

The notice was issued after the petitioner has the challenged the
constitutional validity of Prohibition of Child Marriage Act (PCMA),
saying it violates freedom of religion.

The division bench of Justices D B Bhosale and A R Joshi also directed
that the girl, who is currently 15 years old, be produced in the court
on March 29, so that the judges may interview her.

Zakia Begum, the girl's mother, moved the High Court in January after
police took the girl into custody at the behest of child welfare
committee.

The girl's uncle had informed CWC that she was going to be married
off, in violation of PCMA. Police also filed a criminal case against
her parents for violating the act.

The parents have sought the custody of their daughter -- who is
currently in a shelter home and quashing of the criminal complaint.

Today, petitioner's lawyer Prakash Wagh told the court that the girl's
parents are ready to give an undertaking not to marry her off till she
turns 18. Similar undertaking has already been given to CWC, he said.

The judges said that before ordering her release from shelter home,
they would like to talk to her.

The judges also restrained the girl's family members from meeting her
till she is interviewed by them next Monday.

The Judges said that they would like to deal with the larger issue
involving conflict between Muslim personal law and PCMA. As per PCMA,
a girl cannot get married before she is 18 years of age, but according
to Shariat law, she can marry on reaching puberty.

All India Muslim Personal Law Board too has been impleaded by the
petitioner. Appearing for the Board, senior counsel Yusuf Muchhala
said the court will have to see if the issue involves "core beliefs"
of the religion.

Advocate Mihir Desai, representing two NGOs who have intervened in the
case to oppose the petition, said, "It cannot be said that if I do not
get married before 18, I am not a Muslim."

"Well, I did not get married before 18 myself," advocate Muchhala,
himself a Muslim, remarked, evoking laughter. He, however, said that
he would have to study original Islamic scriptures to formulate his
response to the petition, and that will take some time.

The hearing has been adjourned till March 29.

-PTI

http://www.siasat.com/english/news/muslim-marriage-age-issue-bombay-hc-notice-centre

‘Islamist extremists can destabilise Bangladesh’
Tuesday, 23 March 2010

New Delhi, March 23: Most of the Muslim population in Bangladesh
supports the secular state and abjures violence but Islamist
extremists have the potential to destabilise that country, say experts
from a leading Dhaka-based think tank.

“The Islamist extremists represent a minuscule proportion of the
population; nevertheless, the potential for Bangladesh to be
destabilised by these extremists is fairly strong,” says a paper by
Humayun Kabir and Shahab Enam Khan.

It speaks about the causes of militancy in that country. Titled
“Understanding the threats from Islamist Terrorism in Bangladesh”, the
paper was presented at a security dialogue organised here by the
Observer Research Foundation (ORF) and the Bangladesh Enterprise
Institute (BEI).

Kabir is a senior research director and Khan a project director at the
BEI that has partnerships with many international agencies.

The paper says Islam in Bangladesh has always been defined by
tolerance, moderation and pluralism. Muslim-dominated Bangladesh has a
population of 160 million.

“In general, most of the Muslim population in Bangladesh support(s)
the secular state and abjure(s) the violence and distorted
interpretations of Islam that have plagued countries like Pakistan,
Afghanistan and some in the Middle East.”

Noting that Bangladesh has witnessed a sharp rise in terrorism
primarily from the mid-1990s, the paper points to four complex forms
of terrorism in the country - political, anti-state, ethnic and
social.

It says there exists a nexus between terrorist groups and smuggling
syndicates, criminal gangs and politically sponsored cadres to nourish
a supporting network for each other.

Citing 2007 statistics mentioned in a BEI report, the paper says
Bangladesh has 1,027 organised criminal groups, two insurgent groups,
five outlawed groups, at least four ideologically digressed groups
with militant intent, 16,062 criminals operating in various gangs and
762 politically sponsored criminal groups.

“Extremist groups such as Hijbut Tahrir, Harkat ul-Jihad-I-Islami-
Bangladesh, the militant jihadi Jamat-ul Mujahdeen Bangladesh or their
dissident groups are at the forefront of promoting religious terrorism
in Bangladesh,” the paper says.

The paper mentions that Bangladesh continues to be a transit and
launching point for Pakistan-based terrorist groups that target India
and Southeast Asia.

“Groups like the Lashkar-e-Taiba and Harkat-ul-Jihad-al-Islami retain
a significant presence in Bangladesh and have used its territory to
launch terrorist attacks against India…there is ample evidence to show
that the student front of Jamaat-i-Islami Bangladesh, Islami Chhattra
Shibir, also acts as an extremist group that resorts to violent
activities.

http://www.siasat.com/english/news/%E2%80%98islamist-extremists-can-destabilise-bangladesh%E2%80%99

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Nation pays tribute to first martyr of independent India-Shyam Parsad
Mookherjee
JAGMOHAN SINGH
Monday, 22 March 2010

MADHOPUR(PATHANKOT): The Nation paid glorious tributes to Dr. Shyama
Prasad Mookherjee, first Martyr of independent India, who laid down
his life for a principle of one nation, one flag, one constitution.

Thousands of people led by Mohan Rao Bhagwat, Sar Sanghchalak,
Rashtriya Swayamsewak Sangh, Lal Krishan Advani, former Deputy Prime
Minister, Sukhbir Singh Badal, Deputy Chief Minister Punjab, Nitin
Gadkari, National President BJP and Prem Kumar Dhumal Chief Minister
of Himachal Pradesh fondly remembered the selfless sacrifice of Dr.
Mookherjee at the border point of Punjab-J&K border, from where in
1953 he started his campaign to make J&K integral part of India, to
make it possible for every Indian citizen to visit J&K without permit.

To perpetuate the contribution of Dr. Mookherjee towards unity and
integrity of the country, his life size statue was unveiled here by
all leaders naming the place as Ekta Sathal.

Speaking on occasion Mohan Bhagwat gave a call to launch a second
struggle to abolish Article 370, the last remaining symbol of
disintegration.

Bhagwat also demanded respectable rehabilitation of 3.5 Lac Kashmiri
Hindu migrants back in valley, who were suffering in different part of
country. Appreciating the Punjab Government for making glorious
attempt to perpetuate the memory of Dr. Mookherjee, Bhagwat criticised
Union Govt. for soft peddling Pakistan on issue of terror. Bhagwat
gave a call to launch second struggle to complete the integration of
J&K with India.

Speaking on the Occasion former Deputy Prime Minister Lal Krishan
Advani said that the struggle that Dr. Shayamal Prasad started in 1953
would complete only if Article 370 was repealed from the constitution.
He said that we became victim of British policy of disintegrating
India, even after partition of Pakistan. He recalled the contribution
of Sardar Vallabh Bhai Patel, then Home Minister for integrating
princely states back into India. He said that the demand for autonomy
for J&K or restoring pre 1953 status would be suicidal for the
integrity of the country.

Paying glorious tributes to Dr. Mookherjee, Nitin Gadkari, National
President BJP rued the fact that India has failed to settle J&K issue
even 62 years after independence. He said that appeasement policies of
UPA government were encouraging terrorism and naxalism in the country.
Flaying UPA for starting talks with Pakistan under pressure of foreign
countries Mr. Gadkari said that talks with Pakistan would be futile
till Pakistan was fomenting terrorism from its soil. Demanding the
immediate repealing of Article 370, Gadkari said that Dr. Mookherjee’s
sacrifice would not go in vein.

Paying his humble tribute, Sukhbir Singh Badal Deputy Chief Minister
said that the present generation indebted to freedom fighters who laid
down their lives in the prime of their youth so that we could all
breathe in peace. He said that this statue of Dr. Shayama Prasad
Mookherjee would continue to guide and motivate present generation
about the value of his sacrifice in keeping India intact. Badal said
that Chief Minister Parkash Singh Badal was eagerly waiting for this
momentous day but could not come here personally due to ill health.

Earlier, the leaders unveiled the statue of Dr. Shayama Prasad
Mookherjee that has been erected at the joint border of Punjab,
Himachal and J&K. A photo gallery showing the pictorial history of Dr.
Mookherjee’s contribution in freedom struggle was also inaugurated on
the occasion.

Thousands of people from Punjab, Haryana and J&K paid glorious
tributes to Dr. Mookherjee.

http://www.punjabnewsline.com/content/view/24361/38/

To attract youth, Gadkari seeks new Hindutva idiom
Express News Service

Posted: Tuesday , Mar 23, 2010 at 0222 hrs

New Delhi:
BJP president Nitin Gadkari said: ' Hindutva cannot become any
political party's agenda.

BJP president Nitin Gadkari on Monday stressed on the need for a
modern idiom to articulate Hindutva for the youth, even as he said
that the Supreme Court’s 1995 description of Hindutva (wherein it
described it as “a way of life”) must be the touchstone while
explaining the idea.

“Hindutva cannot become any political party’s agenda,” Gadkari said by
way of explaining that it was “more of a way of life”. This was the
first time he spoke at length on Hindutva after taking over as party
president.

“From Vivekananda to the Supreme Court definition, the idea of
Hindutva has been variously discussed. Hindutva is not against any
religion. While Hindutva is our philosophy, there’s a need to employ a
new idiom to articulate it to connect with the youth,” Gadkari said
while speaking on “Hindutva and Politics” at a function to mark the
launch of an association of volunteers “that will promote the BJP
among the youth”.

“Our credo has always been ‘justice for all; appeasement of none’. A
true Hindu can never attack a Muslim, and a true Muslim can never
attack a Hindu. A terrorist, on the other hand, has no religion,
caste, or creed. It’s the pseudo-secular brigade that has unduly
highlighted the religion of terrorists who happened to be Muslims,”
said Gadkari.

The BJP president said that while a “democracy would always need truly
secular institutions”, individuals “can never become secular”. After
taking over as the party president, Gadkari has attempted to bring
about certain changes in the organisation, something that won the
approval of RSS ideologue M G Vaidya.

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Be agressive in highlighting the failures of UPA
By: R.C.Mohan | Tuesday , 23 Mar '10 13:00:38 PM

BJP a party with great leaders at the top are still to win the
confidence of people in India although the party too advocate the
policy of secularism in its own way.Gadkari as president of the party
must come forward to highlight the failures of the present UPA
government in several areas. Manmohan Singh has failed in all fields
except in the economic arena thanks to his vast experience in the
affairs. In spite of a global recession, India could withstad the
melee because of Mr.Singh. But in all other fields he has miserably
failed and this fact should be highlighted by the BJP. In Law & Order,
Agricultural, Food Distribution,Controlling terrorism, external
affairs etc the present UPA Government has let down the people to a
pathetic state of affairs.Dividing the hindus and appeasing other
religions made them comfortable in hoodwinking the people to an
extend.Hence Gadkari has to be progressive by being agressive in
highlighting the failures of the UPA.All will get attracted naturally

Indian Prestorika for UPA
By: J.A. Mansuri | Tuesday , 23 Mar '10 12:58:42 PM

Both UPA & NDA could reshape by learning for future strategies about
co-existence with & without difference in plural society. Observing
specific areas of SC and Constitution will lead to further polarize
society & national polity. Observing judiciary on Babri Masjid will
bring national integration. Vaccum in philosophy and cadre is on
surface amongst both groups.

Observing Judiciary
By: Ananth Seth | Tuesday , 23 Mar '10 13:38:48 PM

Effective and just National Integration can only come after the
followers of Islam give up their false claim on Ayodhya and disown
pseudo-secularists and pseudo-intellectuals. Any other talk is nothing
but an "under cover" attack on the history and civilization of this
great country.

BJP back to winning trajectory
By: Chirag K. Shahc | Tuesday , 23 Mar '10 12:58:34 PM

I sincerely wish that BJP wins next elections both in Banglore polls
and Bihar. It is high time a nationalist party gets its due.

BAD PERSONS
By: yusuf ahmed | Tuesday , 23 Mar '10 12:39:36 PM R

a bad person is a bad person - a thug is a thug - let us not brand him
- region religion have nothing to do with badness - the new BJP
President is right - his thought process his mind set is on target -
reflects a mental over haul -

Gadkari seeks new Hindutva idiom
By: subramanian | Tuesday , 23 Mar '10 12:05:50 PM

The party's Top leadership is making good and sincere attempts to
rejenuvate BJP. The party has to attract down trodden and weaker
sections of Hindus to retain BJP as the main opposition party. Involve
all Indians across religious lines to become the ruling party.

Kangress bhagaoe,desh bachaoe
By: birju | Tuesday , 23 Mar '10 12:02:36 PM

Gadkariji,way to go! demolish the evil party ruling us and install the
patriots in power!

Hindutava
By: Parminder Singh | Tuesday , 23 Mar '10 11:35:17 AM

My dear brothers and sisters. If a particular word creates
misunderstanding, notwithstanding the intentions behind it, we should
reconsider modifying it. Suppose Akalis say that in Punjab, Sikhutava
be practised or christians in NE States say Christianava be practised
and Muslims say in J&K, Muslimism be way of life, it would definately
not be acceptable to others. I would suggest to Mr Gadhkari that he
should use the word Bharatism as the slogan and moto. While one may
have reservations or objections to any word which in any way seem to
be linked to a particular community or religion, none can have
objection to the word reflecting the country in which he or she lives.

Hinduvta
By: DRJ | Tuesday , 23 Mar '10 11:57:24 AM

Can u advocate the same philosophy for Pakistan which is driving
hindus and sikhs out. India is perhaps the only country where
affiliations of Muslims and Christians are outside the country i.e
Mekka and Rome. Nothing wrong in beliefs. But the basic interest to
rest with the country which is missing and hels overseas interest to
destabilise the country.

Hindutva and Hinduism
By: soumik pal | Tuesday , 23 Mar '10 10:52:50 AM

Nitin Gadkari's comments are better thought than the usual fare dished
out by the likes of Narendra Modi. But one should realize that
Hinduism, after all, is just a discursive field open to debate and
discussion. It is not monolithic. It is not a religion, it is a dharma
(there's a difference). And by all means is Hinduism inclusive unlike
the brand of Hindutva being promoted by BJP and it's more hardcore
allies like the RSS, VHP etc. Godhra riots and countless other events/
incidents bear testimony to that. And "Mantra", India is not a Hindu
nation.

What is the final solution
By: mun | Tuesday , 23 Mar '10 10:13:58 AM

Whilst all these comments are true, there is still the real problem
India faces not now but about 100 years from now. By that time the
proportion of Hindus and others in particular Muslims will have
changed to a point that unrest becomes more frequent and violent. The
reason is Hindus might continue to say India is secular and indeed
practice religious tolerence, but unfotunately, Islam does not give
any choice to muslims. That is, there is only one way of being muslim,
which is the way quran preached originally. No muslim can accept a
State which is not based on quran. That means India can never enact a
law restricting muslims from marrying more than one wife, practice
family planning or any other practices even if they are archaic and
irrelevant to 22nd century. Is there a way out of this? If muslim
population is proportionately, more than Hindus will they allow Hindus
to live they want to live? No convincing answers to this yet.

Hindutva
By: MRR | Tuesday , 23 Mar '10 10:01:19 AM

It is good start and it is upto verybody to ensure that they do not
elect the Pseudo secular's back to power in next election and give
this ideology a another chance to put in practise. Good luck

To attract youth, Gadkari seeks new Hindutva idiomNew Delhi: BJP
president Nitin Gadkari on Monday stressed on the need for a modern
idiom to articulate Hindutva for the youth, even as he said that the
Supreme Court’s 1995 description of Hindutva (wherein it described it
as “a way of life”) must be the touchstone while explaining the idea.
“Hindutva can ....Read more

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Let and Let live - Hindutva idiom
By: kulmohan | Tuesday , 23 Mar '10 9:52:41 AM

Let and Let live - Hindutva idiom. Nothing else would define the
essence of hinduism better

Let and Let Live
By: Indian | Tuesday , 23 Mar '10 10:20:14 AM

Yea that is exactly what is happening with terrorirsts. We are letting
them leave and forgetting ourselves to protect. We are letting
terrorirsts live by voting politicians who are very careful not to
hang them despite of SC judgement

Hindutva
By: Mantra | Tuesday , 23 Mar '10 9:38:19 AM

While the Honorable Supreme Court is absolutely correct in defining
Hinduism as a way of life, Hindu's also have certain beliefs and value
systems, which are unique to them. Hindu's like any other religion
believe in the supremacy of god,life and worship. It is therefore a
way of life to practice the three epitomes of any religion. Now
Islamic and Christian nations do give Bonus points to people or
citizens who practice the religion as endorsed by the state. Prime
examples are Malaysia,Israel, France, Australia, whole of Middle East
and to a great extent US and UK too. Now, as a nation, what is wrong
being a Hindu nation? What is wrong in being a Hindu? At the end of
it, India and Nepal are the only two Hindu nations! The consitution
does not need to hurt the religious sentiments of others, nor should
it curtail the rights of other minorities, however, it should not also
give bonus points and additional privileges to citizens of India of
minority beliefs.

Right
By: India | Tuesday , 23 Mar '10 10:00:06 AM

Very good. Very rightly said.

Hindus-Divided
By: DRJ | Tuesday , 23 Mar '10 11:02:47 AM

Nitinji is making good and sincere attempts to rejenuvate BJP. The
main flaw in BJP's policy is that it recognises only certain sections
as Hindus and rest all as sub servers. This discrimination is being
exploited by Congress. BJP has to learn to recongnise all sections of
Hindus.

Thanks to Indian Express
By: Swanand Bodas | Tuesday , 23 Mar '10 9:35:52 AM

This has been BJP's agenda from JanSangh time. Hindutva by virtue is
comprehensive. The culture here is tolerent and harmonious but of
course is capable to teach a lesson to pseudo secularists who have
been dividing the country for their vote-bank politics. Whatever SC
had said was exactly stated by Veer Savarkar by defining Hindus as
those loving this country and being part of the culture of this
country. But due to Pseudo secular people and even worse media this
has always been prohibitted to come forward. So I must congratulate
Indian Express which at least has made it a news unlike almost other
media channels who are more worried about Rahul Gandhi's whereabouts,
where does he stay what does eat, whether Priyanka was with him or not
etc. than any other intellectual process. This country needs to bring
all religions, states on same level with no special religious laws to
Muslims and no special status to J&K. Only then the country becomes
united

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/To-attract-youth--Gadkari-seeks-new-Hindutva-idiom/594388

Info on 'cash at judge's door' case confidential: SC
Agencies

Posted: Tuesday , Mar 23, 2010 at 1247 hrs
New Delhi:

In the midst of a raging controversy over closure of the 'cash-at-
judge's-door' case, the Supreme Court, which had denied that CBI had
approached the Chief Justice, now says the information is
"confidential".

The Court's interesting reply came on an RTI petition seeking details
whether the Chief Justice of India was approached by the CBI wanting
permission to prosecute Justice Nirmal Yadav of Punjab and Haryana
High Court in the case.

"I write to inform you that the information sought by you...is
confidential and is exempted from disclosure under the section 8 (1)
(e) and (j) of the Right to Information Act, 2005, you have no right
to access the said information."

"Further as the information is not held by or under the control of the
CPIO, Supreme Court India, your request cannot be acceded to..." Raj
Pal Arora, Central Public Information Officer of the Supreme Court
said in an RTI reply.

The reply is in sharp contrast to a statement earlier issued by its
Secretary General M P Bhadran who said CBI did not approach the Chief
Justice of India in the case.

Justice Yadav's name had figured in the alleged scam after the
recovery of a mysterious bag containing Rs 15 lakh at the door of
another Punjab and Haryana High Court judge Nirmaljit Kaur, which was
said to have been delivered there due to confusion over names.

Justice Kaur reported the matter to the police. Later, the probe was
given to CBI on the orders of administrator of Chandigarh.

The CJI had also appointed a three-judge committee to look into the
matter. The then Attorney General Milon Banerji had reportedly advised
the Law Ministry that there was not enough material to proceed further
in the matter.

A CBI court observed that the probe agency filed the closure report
after it failed to get sanction from the Chief Justice of India to
launch prosecution against her. Meanwhile, Justice Yadav was
transferred to Uttarakhand High Court after the decision of
collegium.

Applicant Abhishek Shukla had sought a reply from the Supreme Court
whether the CJI was approached by the CBI seeking permission to
prosecute Justice Nirmal Yadav.

Section 8(1)(e) of the RTI Act cited by CPIO Arora exempts disclosure
of information which is held "fiduciary relationship" whereas the
section 8(1) (j) exempts disclosure of information which is
"personal". In both cases, information can be given, if larger public
interest is served.

The Supreme Court has also refused to disclose the report of Justice
Gokhale Committee, constituted by the Chief Justice of India to probe
the allegations, a document which is reportedly accessed by some RTI
applicants already.

The apex court did not give the minutes of collegium meeting which
recommended the transfer of Justice Yadav to Uttarakhand High Court
after allegations of corruption surfaced against her.

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/info-on-cash-at-judges-door-case-confidential-sc/594537/0

Tue, Apr 6 2010
NEW DELHI 6 Apr 2010 Right-wing Bharatiya Janata Party marks 30th
anniversary
The Hindu right-wing Bharatiya Janata Party, India's main opposition
party, marks 30 years with plans for introspection. New party
president Nitin Gadkari aims to analyze the two successive defeats of
the BJP, which takes credit for the nuclear tests in 1998, for
starting the Indo-United States nuclear talks and for diffusing the
tensions of the Kargil War against Pakistan in 1999. The BJP dilemma
is whether to pursue the cultural nationalism (Hindutuva) agenda or to
move to the center to widen its political base.

The BJP and its political allies suffered a shock defeat in the
general elections in 2004 and failed to muster a parliamentary
majority. The party lost strength again in the 2009 general election.
The defeats were attributed to the bad performance of the party in
Rajasthan, Uttar Pradesh, Maharashtra, Uttarakhand and Madhya Pradesh.

The party’s growing disciplinary problems were magnified with the
expulsion of former Foreign Minister Jaswant Singh in Aug 2009 for
writing a book on Pakistan's Founding Father Mohammed Ali Jinnah.

The BJP, in alliance with several other parties, was in power from
1998 to 2004, with Atal Bihari Vajpayee as the Prime Minister and Lal
Krishna Advani as his deputy

The BJP was formed on 6 Apr 1980. It succeeded the Bharatiya Jana
Sangh, which merged with the Janata Party. The BJP was formed as a
separate party in 1980 after internal differences in the Janata Party
resulted in the collapse of its government in 1979.

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India urges caution as US mulls N-deal with Pak
Yesterday

New Delhi: India on Monday reacted with palpable unhappiness to
reports that the U.S. was willing to discuss a civil nuclear deal with
Pakistan, with External Affairs Minister S.M. Krishna drawing
attention to its “clandestine activities” in the field.

Union Minister for External Affairs S.M. Krishna

Mr. Krishna was guarded in his comments, but Opposition parties like
the BJP and the Left cautioned the U.S. against such a move. “The U.S.
should think whether this help is going to create more terrorism in
the world,” BJP president Nitin Gadkari said.

“I think, the U.S. would always look into the track record of every
country with which they are going for certain understanding or signing
a treaty.

“I am sure that the U.S. will constantly remember that the
proliferation of nuclear weapons was because of certain indiscretions
of certain countries and more particularly Pakistan and the
clandestine activities which they carried on,” Mr. Krishna said. He
said this aspect “will have to be kept in mind…I am sure the U.S.
will”.

Reports that the U.S. was willing to discuss with Islamabad a civil
nuclear deal, similar to that with India, were based on remarks
attributed to U.S. Ambassador to Pakistan Anne Patterson who was
quoted as saying the U.S. was “beginning to have a discussion with the
Pakistan government” on the country’s desire to tap nuclear energy.

She noted that earlier America’s “non-proliferation concerns were
quite severe” but, “I think we are beginning to pass those and this is
a scenario that we are going to explore”. But there was no
confirmation of these moves from Washington.

U.S. Ambassador to India Timothy J. Roemer sidestepped a question on
the issue, saying he was working on implementation of the Indo-U.S.
nuclear deal.

Mr. Gadkari also noted that Pakistan supports terrorism, and there
would be problems for the world if the U.S. gives nuclear technology
or defence help to it.

CPI leader D. Raja said the U.S. move reflected its “very narrow,
selfish vested interests”. He said the U.S. had so far been
encouraging arms race but now it was going to promote nuclear arms
race because of its “large business interest”.

Keywords: nuclear deal, S.M. Krishna, Nitin Gadkari, D. Raja, Timothy
J. Roemer, Anne Patterson, non-proliferation

- News Agencies

http://www.awamimarkaz.com/2010/03/india-urges-caution-as-us-mulls-n-deal-with-pak/

Nitin Gadkari draws flak from 3 BJP leaders from Bihar
PTI
Friday, March 19, 2010 20:24 IST

New Delhi: Four months after being appointed BJP president, Nitin
Gadkari faced his first challenge as discontent grew over composition
of his new team with atleast three senior leaders from Bihar making
their unhappiness known.

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While former union minister Shatrughan Sinha aired his grievance
yesterday for being ignored, another former union minister C P Thakur
criticised Gadkari today saying the new team was "not balanced" and
"injustice" has been meted to out to him.

Another leader Shahnawaz Hussain, who was made one of the seven
spokespersons much below his expectations, also made
known his unhappiness by not attending a meeting of spokespersons
convened by the top leadership today.

With Bihar assembly elections due in October this year, these leaders
as also veterans like Yashwant Sinha were hoping for important
positions in the newly-constituted team.

Purnea MP Udai Singh is also said be disenchanted with his exclusion
from the list but has not come out in the open.

Gadkari, however, was unfazed, saying there were thousands of office
bearers and he could not satisfy everybody.

"As far as what I personally feel, I tried to accommodate everybody. I
can't satisfy everybody. As the president of the party, if anyone has
any problem, he has the right to discuss it with me," Gadkari told
NDTV.

Shatrughan Sinha was the first one to speak against the composition of
Gadkari's team when he announced yesterday that "most deserving"
candidates like Yashwant Sinha have been left out while some not so
competent people figured in the list.

Continuing to sulk, he said the goings-on in the party "did not augur
well" for NDA before the crucial Bihar elections. He also spoke of
"bossy and vested interests" asserting "I cannot compromise with my
dignity".

Though Shatrughan Sinha used Yashwant's name, he is himself
disgruntled.

CP Thakur went public today saying the team should have been balanced
and Maharashtra has been given more importance.

"Injustice has been done to me. My contribution to the party is
definitely not less than that of others...It should have been a
balanced team. The list should be revised," Thakur said.

Hussain, who was tipped to be a general secretary, is also unhappy as
he would have to work under chief spokesperson Ravi Shankar Prasad.
Hussain was a union minister in the NDA regime while Prasad was a
minister of state and the former
considers himself a senior.

Moreover, Prasad has been made a general secretary addingsalt to
Hussain's wounds.

Interestingly, Shatrughan, Thakur and Hussain are from Bihar which
goes to polls in October. Their personal grievances may affect the
party's prospects, feel some party leaders.

Hussain kept away from a meeting of the spokespersons convened by
Leader of Opposition Sushma Swaraj at the behest of Prasad. Sources
said when Swaraj called him about the meeting he said he was unwell
and could not attend.

However, his grievances are known to the party top brass. Sources said
Hussain himself is planning to take up the matter with Gadkari when he
arrives in the capital.

http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_nitin-gadkari-draws-flak-from-3-bjp-leaders-from-bihar_1361000

SIT summons: Lies & falsehood, cries Modi
DNA
Monday, March 22, 2010 19:13 IST
Last updated: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 1:38 IST

Gandhinagar: Gujarat chief minister Narendra Modi on Monday struck
back at his detractors and claimed that the special investigation team
(SIT) set up by the Supreme Court to look into the Gujarat riot cases
had not summoned him to appear before it on March 21.

Even as activist Teesta Setalvad was busy distributing copies of the
2007 Tehelka tapes in which various people were seen implicating Modi
in the riot cases, the chief minister issued a “carefully-worded
letter” stating that the “SIT had not fixed March 21, 2010, for my
appearance. The date… was invented by some vested interest”. But
Modi’s letter made it clear that he would respond to the SIT “fully
respecting the law and keeping in view the dignity of a body appointed
by the Supreme Court.”

Speaking on his behalf, senior BJP leader and Supreme Court lawyer
Arun Jaitley told a hastily-convened press conference that there had
been “no direct or indirect, or any form of request, by the SIT to
appear” before it. Emphasising repeatedly that “Modi will comply with
all legal obligations, show full respect and respond to the SIT as and
when a time is fixed,” Jaitley said the March 21 date had been wrongly
“leaked to the media by some vested interests trying to intervene with
the process of law”.

Jaitley did not spell out the date that Modi had been asked to appear
before the SIT or whether he would go in person for the meeting.
Neither did Modi’s letter clarify any of these facts. But he did
indicate by implication that he had been summoned by the SIT.

While Jaitley bashed the vested interests and the media repeatedly,
the fact remains that news of Modi being called was confirmed by SIT
chief RK Raghavan himself on March 11 to DNA as part of a telephonic
talk.

Jaitley, who flew down to Gandhinagar on Monday morning, held an
urgent media conference at the chief minister’s office to clarify on
his behalf. “The media has been misleading the people by disseminating
incorrect information that Modi was summoned by the SIT on March 21,
and that he did not appear,” said Jaitley.

“There have been campaigns running for the past eight years to defame
the Gujarat government and the chief minister.”
Taking a side swipe at the NGOs which were fighting for the cause of
the 2002 riot victims, Jaitley said as petitioners in the SC, these
NGOs should “ensure that there was no interference with the process of
law”.

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BJP reshuffle: What is Nitin Gadkari thinking?
March 20, 2010 17:15 IST

Sheikh Chilli is a well-known character in South Asian mythology. He
abounds in vision, dreams, and knows how to inspire people with his
talk. He is brimming with futuristic ideas, but has no idea how to
realise them: The most famous Sheikh Chilli story is how he decided to
cut a branch off a tree when he needed firewood, except that he was
sitting on the branch while cutting it.

Several in the Bharatiya Janata Party [ Images ] are reminded of
Sheikh Chilli while evaluating the team that the party's new
president, Nitin Gadkari [ Images ], announced earlier this week. Some
inclusions are inexplicable, omissions even more so. Promotions and
demotions don't seem to indicate any larger strategy the new president
may have in mind for the party.

First, the party amended its constitution to have a 120-member
national executive, up from 80 earlier: This is fine, as the president
thought he would benefit from wider consultation. But, see the list of
members in the executive, including a mysterious category called
'others' (for which there is no provision in the party constitution).
The resultant national executive has 190-plus members. It can only be
an insecure president who has to subvert the constitution, presumably
to have an executive packed with his supporters.

Now, the team itself. Of the 190-plus members, more than 25 are from
Maharashtra [ Images ]. Actor Vinod Khanna's [ Images ] wife Kavita is
an 'other'. But the party's former foreign and finance minister
Yashwant Sinha [ Images ] has not even been found worthy of being an
'other'. He's been dropped altogether. So has been another National
Democratic Alliance Cabinet minister, Jagmohan.

Those from Maharashtra are neither thinkers, nor professionals, nor,
in any way, expanding the intellectual frontiers of the BJP. They are
politicians mostly from the municipal and local body levels. So, no
doubt the BJP expects to sweep the local body elections in Maharashtra
-- but to build a national executive on the back of that talent?

It is clear that Gadkari wanted to end factionalism in the party and
thought that he would be able to do so by making the national
executive a rainbow coalition. So he has appointed Vasundhara Raje as
the general secretary. But he has also appointed Bainsla, her greatest
detractor and the biggest pain in her neck in Rajasthan [ Images ]
during her tenure as the chief minister, as an 'other'. Bainsla
represents the Gujjars in Rajasthan -- the caste in counterpoise to
the largely Congress-leaning Meenas. Why insult the Gujjars by giving
Bainsla an ornamental representation in the executive?

If the national executive is the vehicle for policy decisions by the
party, it makes sense that members from the state where elections are
due should have been chosen in larger numbers and with care. The
Bhumihars in Bihar (which goes to the polls in a few months) are the
biggest supporters of the Janata Dal - United-BJP-led government
there, and are seriously disenchanted with Nitish Kumar. The BJP could
have snapped them up if it had taken a little care. But, there isn't a
single Bhumihar from Bihar in the national executive. Instead, Kiran
Ghai, a Punjabi from Bihar, who has been a nominated member of the
legislative council, has been elevated as an office-bearer. In Bihar
politics, what is she expected to bring to the table?

At least two members from Uttar Pradesh [ Images ] (where the party is
all but finished) -- Ram Bux Verma and Ravi Kant Garg -- left the
party when they were denied nominations. Verma was a Rajya Sabha
member and the party could not give him another term because it didn't
have the numbers to renominate him. He quit the party and returned
later. He's a member of the executive. Garg represented Mathura and
left the party not once but twice after he was denied a re-nomination.
He, too, is in the executive. What sort of message does this send?

Assam has sent 14 MPs to the Lok Sabha. Rajan Gohain is an MP who has
served three terms. He, however, is not an office-bearer. Instead,
Tapir Gao from Arunachal Pradesh, which sends two MPs to the Lok
Sabha, is a secretary. Moreover, Gao represents the scheduled tribe
quota. So, the voice of the North-East region is heard through these
two and Bijoya Chakravarty, who has been appointed vice president.

The Parliamentary Board -- the highest forum of the party -- has 12
members, of which one is reserved for a scheduled caste and the
organising secretary's post is filled by an Rashtriya Swayamsevak
Sangh representative. So, that leaves the president with 10 members
whom he has the freedom of choice to appoint. Of these, seven are
Brahmins. What happened to the BJP's big other backward class project
of social inclusion ?

No doubt, Nitin Gadkari has a plan for the BJP. It is not clear what
it is.
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BJP chief whip spills it out: 70% of MPs oppose Women’s Bill
J P Yadav

Posted: Thursday , Mar 11, 2010 at 0148 hrs
New Delhi:

Betraying the anxiety among MPs on how the women’s reservation Bill
will play out in their constituencies, the BJP chief whip in Lok Sabha
today claimed “at least 70 per cent of MPs” were against the Bill
while a senior BJP MP said he would defy any whip to vote in its
favour even though his party had offered it “unequivocal support” in
the Rajya Sabha.

Ramesh Bais, BJP chief whip in Lok Sabha, said there was strong
resentment among Lok Sabha MPs over the Bill and his party leadership
was engaged in placating MPs.

“At least seventy per cent of MPs are protesting against the women’s
reservation Bill and the way the party supported the Bill despite
marshals being used in Rajya Sabha. Top leaders of the party have
assured that grievances of the MPs will be taken into account,” Bais
told The Indian Express, adding that Murli Manohar Joshi and Yashwant
Sinha had already held the first round of discussions.

Hukumdeo Narayan Yadav, senior leader and BJP MP from Madhubani in
Bihar, declared he would defy any party whip in Lok Sabha and vote
against the Bill.

A former Union Minister, Yadav told The Indian Express: “If they issue
a whip (to vote in favour of the Bill), I will break it and vote
against it. Let them end my membership, I am not bothered. I am a
socialist and I cannot compromise on issues of social justice.”

He said he had asked the BJP leadership not to issue a whip in Lok
Sabha and allow MPs to exercise their choice. He also slammed the use
of marshals in Rajya Sabha to evict seven MPs who were opposed to the
Bill.

Yadav said the use of marshals amounted to “martial law” and his party
had been a “mute spectator”.

“History will not spare the BJP. The BJP was like Bhishmapitamah and
Dronacharya in Mahabharata who remained mute spectators to the
disrobing of Draupadi,” he said. Attacking the policy of his party to
support the Bill, he said the BJP would “decline further” if it
ignored the backward classes.

Yogi Adityanath, MP from Gorakhpur in Uttar Pradesh, too aired his
protest, wondering why the party had shown such eagerness to back the
women’s reservation Bill when there were more pressing matters on
hand.

Madhusudan Yadav, a first-time BJP MP from Rajnandgaon in
Chhattisgarh, too objected that the party leadership had not protested
the use of marshals to evict MPs from Rajya Sabha.

“The allies and supporters of UPA are protesting against the Bill.
They used the support of the Opposition to use marshals and bulldoze
the Bill through Rajya Sabha. We will not tolerate the use of marshals
in Lok Sabha,” Yadav told The Indian Express.

29 Comments |

BJP is in winning position
By: Danendra jain | Friday , 12 Mar '10 5:32:16 AM

There is no doubt in it that BJP will ultimately gain in election due
to their support to woman reservation bill .Details cannot be
mentioned but realised by true thinker of BJP cadre. It needs some
time to ponder over the issue and merely supporting or opposing for
the sake of support or for opposition will serve no purpose. When they
supported in Rajya sabha there a reason behind it.There is no change
in any part of the bill , they why BJP members have suddenly changed.
It means they did not apply mind in first case and nor they have
applied mind for their next course of action in Loksabha.However I am
of different view.Quota has not served any interest of SC ST or OBC
during last 60 years of freedom and it cannot be imagined that woman
quota will turn the table and bring about overwhelming change in
Indian administration which is ailing from corruption, or give relief
to Indian common men who are suffering from price rise or provide
safety to Indians who are afraid of terror attack or Naxal attack or
help Indian youth who are suffering from unemployment.

women's reservation bill
By: karan | Thursday , 11 Mar '10 13:55:11 PM

Is there any guarantee that the selected women in the parliment will
perform any better than men.Is there any assurance that they will
behave better than men. If one looks are likes of Indira , mayavati,
jayalalitha,sonia, renuka choudri, jayanti natarajan, rabri devi etc,
nothing gives us hope that they are here to change anything that is
happening today.This resrvation bill is a real wastefull exercise.This
only will become an extended family mater spilling in the public
domain with no commensurate benefit to the tax payer's money.One can
not forget the money that this lady renuka choudri splashed on
telephone bills, hotel bills etc only to be reprimanded by The then
Finance minister.

What a mess !!!
By: rao | Thursday , 11 Mar '10 13:05:22 PM

It has taken, as per one of the TV channels (probably govt mouthpiece)
14 long years, after the bill's inception. There must have been
various reasons why it could not come through,except that now as Mrs
Sonia Gandhi (the almighty of India) has taken it as a personal
challenge, the first hurdle was crossed. This is to say the least the
most pathetic situation, whichever way you look at it. Did any one
consider as to why it took 14 long years and would the same factors
(possibly justifying that time, the said reservation -- God knows
which factors) still hold good? We divide the country on all counts,
caste, religion and now gender basis. What is the point in having
reserved seats, which any way would be contested only by the clones
and controlled 'remotely' by others - whatever be the type of
reservation. Improve the lot of the deserving (irrespective of caste,
religion and gender) and the country would automatically prosper. Most
of the women feel such reservation as a disgrace

WOMEN'S BILL
By: kkjha | Thursday , 11 Mar '10 12:20:55 PM

every political party is exploiting the situation -some in the name of
religion,some caste ,others group of castes,look into the
history,yadavs were the most influential upper caste-now they are
backward,thanks to politicians,REMOVE ALL SORTS OF RESERVATIONS AND
WORK FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE COUNTRY

HAS THE COUNTRY PROGRESSED?
By: N.ASTI | Thursday , 11 Mar '10 12:12:38 PM

Under the leadership of Congress,UPA is trying to divert the mind of
public and sail smoothly thro' current session of Parliament without
addressing the burning issues of PRICE-RISE,SECURITY,DEBACLES IN
DEALING WITH PAK and so on.If a Govt is really working for the Nation
and not only Party-interest AT ALL COSTS,then Congress which ruled the
country for half a decade ,would have brought the living of
SC,ST,OBC,Minorities,Women at a level that none of them need
reservation and all Indians would have been at par in the
progress.Awareness was needed to be created among these masses for
removal of ignorance,Poverty and population rise(which is the biggest
hurdle in the progress).In its stead Indian Politicians ate away the
resources meant for AAM AADMI and throws on the bread of RESERVATION
to different categories,treating them as street dogs,and foolish
Indians enjoy this and get satisfied.

QUOTA BASED ON POVERTY IS IDEAL
By: B S GANESH | Thursday , 11 Mar '10 12:06:10 PM

My frank opinion is any type of quota other than for alleviating
poverty and improving the quality of life of poor people is a sort of
fraud on the nation. B S GANESH

No need of Reservation
By: Sanjay | Thursday , 11 Mar '10 11:46:43 AM

Why Reservation ? Sonia ,Mamata ,Mayavati ,Jayalalita ,Sushma swaraj
are Indias leading politicians without any
reservation.Presindent ,most influential politician of India are
women .They will come up by their merit.

100%
By: George P. Joseph | Thursday , 11 Mar '10 11:38:43 AM

Psychologically and the past experiments arrive at 100%, that is the
truth.

Women's bill
By: Bhaskar Kolnad | Thursday , 11 Mar '10 11:28:13 AM

It should have been 50% reservation for women ,not 33% as now now they
proposing.Even for this ,there is so much of opposition and
reservation.What equality are these top leaders preaching then . Sonia
says it is her husbands dream and many others also speak so much about
it. Double standard.

True face of Women-Bill
By: mohan | Thursday , 11 Mar '10 11:25:10 AM

It is not only the BJP but also many in the Congress Party is against
the bill. It is only due to the insistance of Sonia Gandhi it could be
moved in the RS.

True face of Women's-Bill----
By: romesh.sharma | Thursday , 11 Mar '10 14:55:38 PM

By now SoniaGandhi has known and is assured by her boot-lickers that
there will be some kind protests,agitations,yammering and blabbering
which won't last longer and the anti-bill people will cool down and
forget.This had always happened in India.Too susceptibles with very
short-memories.India is nomore or say was never real Democracy under
Congress rule.How a bill can get through which needs Constitutional
Amendment withough 2/3 majority support is clear sign of despotic
regime exercising colourful powers.

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By Priyadarsi Dutta
Editorial
The Pioneer
http://www.dailypioneer.com
Monday, March 29, 2010

Whipping the dead horse of British Raj continues to be the favourite
pastime of intellectuals. They, however, clinically eschew Islam that
wreaked havoc on India for six centuries prior to the British
ascendancy. They would also refrain from commenting upon how
Nehruvian policies resulted in our taking a demurred view of
ourselves. Pawan K Verma's interview, "�nglish cannot be given
primacy over the language of our culture" (March 25) is another such
instance. Swami Vivekananda, Sri Aurobindo, Ananda Coomaraswamy, CP
Ramaswamy Aiyar, KP Jaiswal, and RC Majumdar all received colonial
education and wrote their works in English. Yet, it is difficult to
find a larger constellation of nationalists before or after the
British era.

Verma, in his interview, has dropped no hint as to why a Hindu
renaissance occurred under the British rule whereas in independent
India the appellation 'Hindu' has been stigmatised and made
contemptuous. This emasculation is the real reason why our cultural
greatness has fallen off the discourse. Verma is equally silent on
why the English language, believed to be predatory, stimulated a
literary florescence in all Indian languages in the 19th century.
Actually, it is the advent of the printing press to India in 1772 and
the development of Indian-language fonts and dictionaries by the
British that spurred the growth of modern Indian literature more than
anything else.

Verma, by being harsh on Raja Ram Mohun Roy, has demeaned a stalwart
who re-introduced the Upanishads in public discourse. Verma's
assertion that Ram Mohun Roy argued for permanent residency of the
British and mixed marriages with Indians is fallacious. Roy,
appearing before the Select Committee of the House of Common in 1832,
gave a judicious opinion on the advantages and disadvantages of
Europeans settling in India. The subject of inter-marriage was not
even broached. Roy said, "On mature consideration, therefore, I think
I may safely recommend that educated persons of character and capital
should be permitted to settle in India ... and the result of this
experiment may serve as a guide in any future legislation on this
subject".

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