The Facts About Clinton and Terrorism: You don't need a movie to see his failures.
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The Facts About Clinton and Terrorism
You don't need a movie to see his failures.
By Byron York
Editor's note: When it comes to Bill Clinton's record on terrorism, there's
no need to invent fictional scenarios to show how ineffective he was; the
truth is bad enough. A few months after 9/11, Byron York went through the
record - including the former president's habit of taking polls to see how
he should respond to terrorist attacks - and came up with this report, from
the December 17, 2001 issue of National Review:
June 25, 1996, a powerful truck bomb exploded outside the Khobar Towers
barracks in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia, tearing the front from the building,
blasting a crater 35 feet deep, and killing 19 American soldiers. Hundreds
more were injured. When news reached Washington, Presi dent Bill Clinton
vowed to bring the killers to justice. "The cowards who committed this
murderous act must not go unpunished," he said angrily. "Let me say again:
We will pursue this. America takes care of our own. Those who did it must
not go unpunished." The next day, leaving the White House to attend an
economic summit in France, Clinton had more tough words for the attackers.
"Let me be very clear: We will not resist" - the president corrected
himself - "we will not rest in our efforts to find who is responsible for
this outrage, to pursue them and to punish them."
As Clinton spoke, his top political strategist, Dick Morris, was hard at
work conducting polls to gauge the public's reaction to the bombing.
"Whenever there was a crisis, I ordered an immediate poll," Morris recalls.
"I was concerned about how Clinton looked in the face of [the attack] and
whether people blamed him." The bombing happened in the midst of the
president's re-election campaign, and even though Clinton enjoyed a
substantial lead over Republican Bob Dole, Morris worried that public
dissatisfaction with Clinton on the terrorism issue might benefit Dole.
Indeed, Morris's first poll showed less support for Clinton than he had
hoped. But by the time Morris presented his findings to the president and
top staffers at a political-strategy meeting a few days later, public
approval of Clinton's response had climbed - something Morris noted in his
written agenda for the session:
SAUDI BOMBING - recovered from Friday and looking great
Approve Clinton handling 73-20
Big gain from 63-20 on Friday
Security was adequate 52-40
It's not Clinton's fault 76-18
The numbers were a relief for the re-election team. But soon there was
another crisis when, on July 17, TWA Flight 800 exploded and crashed into
the Atlantic Ocean on its way from New York to Paris. There was widespread
suspicion that the crash was the result of terrorism (it was later ruled to
be an accident), and Morris's polling found the public growing uneasy not
only about air safety but also about Clinton's performance in the Khobar
investigation. Morris found that the number of people who believed Clinton
was "doing all he can to investigate the Saudi bombing and punish those
responsible" was just 54 percent, while 32 percent believed he could do
more. Morris feared that White House inaction would allow Dole to portray
Clinton as soft on national security.
"We tested two alternative defenses to this attack: Peace maker or
Toughness," Morris wrote in a memo for the president. In the "Peacemaker"
defense, Morris asked voters to respond to the statement, "Clinton is
peacemaker. Brought together Arabs and Israelis. Ireland. Bosnia cease fire.
Uses strength to bring about peace." The other defense, "Tough ness," asked
voters to respond to "Clinton tough. Stands up for American interests.
Against foreign companies doing business in Cuba. Sanctions against Iran.
Anti-terrorist legislation held up by Republicans. Prosecuted World Trade
Center bombers." Morris found that the public greatly preferred "Toughness."
So Clinton talked tough. But he did not act tough. Indeed, a review of his
years in office shows that each time the president was confronted with a
major terrorist attack - the February 26, 1993, bombing of the World Trade
Center, the Khobar Towers attack, the August 7, 1998, bombing of U.S.
embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, and the October 12, 2000, attack on the USS
Cole - Clinton was preoccupied with his own political fortunes to an extent
that precluded his giving serious and sustained attention to fighting
terrorism.
At the time of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, his administration was
just beginning, and he was embroiled in controversies over gays in the
military, an economic stimulus plan, and the beginnings of Hillary Clinton's
health-care task force. Khobar Towers happened not only in the midst of the
president's re-election campaign but also at the end of a month in which
there were new and damaging developments in the Whitewater and Filegate
scandals. The African embassy attacks occurred as the Monica Lewinsky affair
was at fever pitch, in the month that Clinton appeared before independent
counsel Kenneth Starr's grand jury. And when the Cole was rammed, Clinton
had little time left in office and was desperately hoping to build his
legacy with a breakthrough in the Arab-Israeli conflict. Whenever a serious
terrorist attack occurred, it seemed Bill Clinton was always busy with
something else.
The First WTC Attack
Clinton had been in office just 38 days when terrorists bombed the World
Trade Center, killing six people and injuring more than 1,000. Although it
was later learned that the bombing was the work of terrorists who hoped to
topple one of the towers into the other and kill as many as 250,000 people,
at first it was not clear that the explosion was the result of terrorism.
The new president's reaction seemed almost disengaged. He warned Americans
against "overreacting" and, in an interview on MTV, described the bombing as
the work of someone who "did something really stupid."
From the start, Clinton approached the investigation as a law-enforcement
issue. In doing so, he effectively cut out some of the government's most
important intelligence agencies. For example, the evidence gathered by FBI
agents and prosecutors came under the protection of laws mandating
grand-jury secrecy - which meant that the law-enforcement side of the
investigation could not tell the intelligence side of the investigation what
was going on. "Nobody outside the prosecutorial team and maybe the FBI had
access," says James Woolsey, who was CIA director at the time. "It was all
under grand-jury secrecy."
Another problem with Clinton's decision to assign the investigation
exclusively to law enforcement was that law enforcement in the new
administration was in turmoil. When the bomb went off, Clinton did not have
a confirmed attorney general; Janet Reno, who was nominated after the Zoė
Baird fiasco, was awaiting Senate approval. The Justice Department,
meanwhile, was headed by a Bush holdover who had no real power in the new
administration. The bombing barely came up at Reno's Senate hearings, and
when she was finally sworn in on March 12, neither she nor Clinton mentioned
the case. (Instead, Clinton praised Reno for "sharing with us the
life-shaping stories of your family and career that formed your deep sense
of fairness and your unwavering drive to help others to do better.") In
addition, at the time the bombing investigation began, the FBI was headed by
William Sessions, who would soon leave after a messy forcing-out by Clinton.
A new director, Louis Freeh, was not confirmed by the Senate until August 6.
Amid all the turmoil at the top, the investigation missed some tantalizing
clues pointing toward a far-reaching conspiracy. In April 1995, for example,
terrorism expert Steven Emerson told the House International Relations
Committee that there was information that "strongly suggests . . . a
Sudanese role in the World Trade Center bombing. There are also leads
pointing to the involvement of Osama bin Laden, the ex-Afghan Saudi
mujahideen supporter now taking refuge in Sudan." Two years later, Emerson
told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee the same thing. In recent years,
according to an exhaustive New York Times report, "American intelligence
officials have come to believe that [ringleader Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman]
and the World Trade Center bombers had ties to al-Qaeda."
But the Clinton administration stuck with its theory that the bombing was
the work of a loose network of terrorists working apart from any government
sponsorship. Intelligence officials who might have thought otherwise were
left out in the cold - "I made repeated attempts to see Clinton privately to
take up a whole range of issues and was unsuccessful," Woolsey recalls - and
some of the nation's most critical intelligence capabilities went unused. In
the end, the U.S. tried six suspects in the attack. All were convicted and
sentenced to life in prison. Another key suspect, Abdul Rahman Yasin, was
released after being held by the FBI in New Jersey and fled to Baghdad,
where he is living under the protection of the Iraqi government. Today, with
many leads gone cold, intelligence officials concede they will probably
never know who was behind the attack.
Khobar Towers
"In June of 1996, it felt like an entire herd was converging on the White
House," wrote Clinton aide George Stephanopoulos in his memoir, All Too
Human. A herd of scandals, that is: In late May, independent counsel Kenneth
Starr had convicted Jim and Susan McDougal and Jim Guy Tucker in the first
big Whitewater trial; in June, the Filegate story first broke into public
view, and Sen. Alphonse D'Amato issued his committee's Whitewater report
recommending that several administration officials be investigated for
perjury. It was also in June that the White House went into full battle mode
against a variety of allegations contained in Unlimited Access, a book by
former FBI agent Gary Aldrich.
All these developments were heavy on the minds of Clinton, Dick Morris, and
the other members of the re-election strategy team when the bomb went off at
Khobar Towers on June 25. As it had after the World Trade Center bombing, a
distracted White House gave the case to law enforcement. But there is
significant evidence to suggest that the White House was even less
interested in finding answers than it had been in the World Trade Center
case. In the Khobar investigation, the Clinton administration not only
failed to follow potentially productive leads but in some instances actively
made the investigators' job more difficult.
From the beginning, the administration ran into significant Saudi resistance
(the Saudis quickly identified a few low-level suspects and beheaded them,
hoping to end the matter there). According to a long account of the case by
Elsa Walsh published earlier this year in The New Yorker, FBI director Louis
Freeh on several occasions urged the White House to pressure the Saudis for
more cooperation. More than once, Walsh reports, Freeh was frustrated to
learn that the president barely mentioned the case in meetings with Saudi
leaders.
Freeh - whose own relations with the White House had deteriorated badly in
the wake of the Filegate and campaign-finance scandals - became convinced
that the White House didn't really want to push the Saudis for more
information, which Freeh believed would confirm strong suspicions of
extensive Iranian involvement in the attack. Walsh reports that in September
1998, Freeh, angry and losing hope, took the extraordinary step of secretly
asking former president George H. W. Bush to intercede with the Saudi royal
family. Acting without Clinton's knowledge, Bush made the request, and the
Saudis began to provide new information, which indeed pointed to Iran.
In late 1998, Walsh reports, Freeh went to national security adviser Sandy
Berger to tell him that it appeared the FBI had enough evidence to indict
several suspects. "Who else knows this?" Berger asked Freeh, demanding to
know if it had been leaked to the press. Freeh said it was a closely held
secret. Then Berger challenged some of the evidence of Iranian involvement.
"That's just hearsay," Berger said. "No, Sandy," Freeh responded. "It's
testimony of a co-conspirator . . ." According to Walsh's account, Freeh
thought that "Berger . . . was not a national security adviser; he was a
public-relations hack, interested in how something would play in the press.
After more than two years, Freeh had concluded that the administration did
not really want to resolve the Khobar bombing."
Ultimately, Freeh never got the support he wanted from the White House.
Walsh writes that "by the end of the Clinton era, Freeh had become so
mistrustful of Clinton that, although he believed he had developed enough
evidence to seek indictments against the masterminds behind the attack, not
just the front-line suspects, he decided to wait for a new administration."
Just before Freeh left office, Walsh reports, he met with new president
George W. Bush and gave him a list of suspects in the bombing. In June,
attorney general John Ashcroft announced the indictment of 14 suspects: 13
Saudis and one Lebanese. It is not clear whether any of them are the
"masterminds" of Khobar; none is in American custody and no Iranian
officials were named in the indictment.
Both the Khobar investigation and the World Trade Center bombing presented
Clinton with daunting challenges; there were sensitive political issues
involved, and in each case it was not immediately clear who was behind the
violence. But in neither instance did Clinton press hard for answers and
demand action; Berger would not have taken the position he did if the
president fully supported a vigorous investigation. In the coming years,
Clinton would be faced with clear acts of terrorism carried out by an
organization with undeniable state support. But again, busy with other
things, he did little.
The Embassies
On August 7, 1998, bombs exploded at U.S. embassies in Nairobi, Kenya, and
Dar es Salaam, Tanzania. More than 200 people were killed, including 12
Americans. The morning of the attacks, Clinton said, "We will use all the
means at our disposal to bring those responsible to justice, no matter what
or how long it takes. . . . We are determined to get answers and justice."
Investigators quickly discovered that bin Laden was behind the attacks. On
August 20, Clinton ordered cruise-missile strikes on a bin Laden camp in
Afghanistan and the al-Shifa pharmaceutical plant in Sudan. But the strikes
were at best ineffectual. There was little convincing evidence that the
pharmaceutical factory, which admin istration officials believed was
involved in the production of material for chemical weapons, actually was
part of a weapons-making operation, and the cruise missiles in Afghanistan
missed bin Laden and his deputies.
Instead of striking a strong blow against terrorism, the action set off a
howling debate about Clinton's motives. The president ordered the action
three days after appearing before the grand jury investigating the Monica
Lewinsky affair, and Clinton's critics accused him of using military action
to change the subject from the sex-and-perjury scandal - the so-called "wag
the dog" strategy. Some of Clinton's allies, suspecting the same thing,
remained silent. Even some of those who, after briefings by administration
officials, publicly defended the strikes privately questioned Clinton's
decision.
The accusations came as no surprise to the White House. "Everyone knew the
'wag the dog' charge was going to be made," recalls Daniel Benjamin, a
terrorism expert on the National Security Council. But Benjamin and others
believed - mistakenly, as it turned out - that they could convince the
skeptics the attacks were fully justified. "I remember being shocked and
deeply depressed over the fact that no one would take seriously what I
considered a grave national-security problem," says Benjamin. "Not only were
they not buying it, they were accusing the administration of essentially
playing the most shallow and foolish kind of game to deflect attention from
other issues. It was astonishing."
In particular, reporters and some members of Congress were not convinced by
the administration's evidence that the al-Shifa plant was involved in
chemical-weapons production. The attack came to be viewed, by consensus, as
a screw-up. In a new article in The New York Review of Books, Benjamin
suggests that that skepticism, particularly on the part of reporters, scared
Clinton away from any more tough action against bin Laden. "The dismissal of
the al-Shifa attack as a blunder had serious consequences, including the
failure of the public to comprehend the nature of the al-Qaeda threat,"
Benjamin writes. "That in turn meant there was no support for decisive
measures in Afghanistan - including, possibly, the use of U.S. ground
forces - to hunt down the terrorists; and thus no national leader of either
party publicly suggested such action."
After the cruise-missile raids, the administration restricted its work to
covert actions breaking up terrorist cells. Benjamin and others say a
significant number of terrorist plots were short-circuited, preventing
several acts of violence. "I see no reason to doubt their word on that,"
says James Woolsey. "They may have been doing a lot of stuff behind the
scenes." But breaking up individual cells while avoiding larger-scale action
probably had the effect of postponing terrorist acts rather than stopping
them. Woolsey believes that such an approach was part of what he calls
Clinton's "PR-driven" approach to terrorism, an approach that left the
fundamental problem unsolved: "Do something to show you're concerned. Launch
a few missiles in the desert, bop them on the head, arrest a few people. But
just keep kicking the ball down the field."
The Cole
The last act of terrorism during the Clinton administration came on October
12, 2000, when bin Laden operatives bombed the USS Cole in Aden, Yemen.
Seventeen American sailors were killed, 39 others were wounded, and one of
the U.S.'s most sophisticated warships was nearly sunk.
Clinton's reaction to the Cole terrorism was more muted than his response to
the previous attacks. While he called the bombing "a despicable and cowardly
act" and said, "We will find out who was responsible and hold them
accountable," he seemed more concerned that the attack might threaten the
administration's work in the Middle East (the bombing came at the same time
as a new spate of violence between Israelis and Palestinians). "If [the
terrorists'] intention was to deter us from our mission of promoting peace
and security in the Middle East, they will fail utterly," Clinton said on
the morning of the attack. The next day, the Washington Post's John Harris,
who had good connections inside the administration, wrote, "While the
apparent suicide bombing of the USS Cole may have been the more dramatic
episode for the American public, the escalation between Israelis and
Palestinians took the edge in preoccupying senior administration officials
yesterday. This was regarded as the more fluid of the two problems, and it
presented the broader threat to Clinton's foreign policy aims."
As in 1998, U.S. investigators quickly linked the bombing to bin Laden and
his sponsors in Afghanistan's Taliban regime. Together with the embassy
bombings, the Cole blast established a clear pattern of attacks on American
interests carried out by bin Laden's organization. Clinton had a solid
rationale, and would most likely have had solid public support, for strong
military action. Yet he did nothing. Perhaps he didn't want to endanger the
cherished goal of Middle East peace. Perhaps he didn't want to disrupt the
2000 presidential campaign, then in its last days. Perhaps he didn't know
quite what to do. But in the end, the ball was kicked a bit farther down the
field.
In early August 1996, a few weeks after the Khobar Towers bombing, Clinton
had a long conversation with Dick Morris about his place in history. Morris
divided presidents into four categories: first tier, second tier, third
tier, and the rest. Twenty-two presidents who presided over uneventful
administrations fell into the last category. Just five - Washington,
Jefferson, Lincoln, Wilson, and Franklin Roosevelt - made Morris's first
tier.
Clinton asked Morris where he stood. "I said that at the moment he was at
the top of the unrated category," Morris recalls. Morris says he told the
president that one surprising thing about the ratings was that a president's
standing had little to do with the performance of the economy during his
time in office. "Yeah," Clinton responded, "It has so much to do with
whether you get re-elected or not, but history kind of forgets it."
Clinton then asked, "What do I need to do to be first tier?" "I said, 'You
can't,'" Morris remembers. "'You have to win a war.'" Clinton then asked
what he needed to do to make the second or third tier, and Morris outlined
three goals. The first was successful welfare reform. The second was
balancing the budget. And the third was an effective battle against
terrorism. "I said the only one of the major goals he had not achieved was a
war on terrorism," Morris says. (This is not a recent recollection; Morris
also described the conversation in his 1997 book, Behind the Oval Office.)
But Clinton never began, much less finished, a war on terrorism. Even though
Morris's polling showed the poll-sensitive president that the American
people supported tough action, Clinton demurred. Why?
"He had almost an allergy to using people in uniform," Morris explains. "He
was terrified of incurring casualties; the lessons of Vietnam were ingrained
far too deeply in him. He lacked a faith that it would work, and I think he
was constantly fearful of reprisals." But there was more to it than that.
"On another level, I just don't think it was his thing," Morris says. "You
could talk to him about income redistribution and he would talk to you for
hours and hours. Talk to him about terrorism, and all you'd get was a series
of grunts."
And that is the key to understanding Bill Clinton's handling of the
terrorist threat that grew throughout his two terms in the White House: It
just wasn't his thing. Clinton was right when he said history might care
little about the prosperity of his era. Now, as he tries to defend his
record on terrorism, he appears to sense that he will be judged harshly on
an issue that is far more important than the Nasdaq or 401(k) balances. He's
right about that, too.
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liberals cant stop lying and distorting the truth, its in their nature.
bushhelpscorporationsdestroyamerica
ABC is being sued by no less than 5 sources so far, their work of
fiction is joke and right wingers are a bigger joke, nice propaganda
film for the right, but they have also broken election rules by running
a falsehood so close to an election, it will be awesome when they are
sued and ridiculed by all. Right wingers are so Gullible and Stupid,
that is what bush is counting on and he is never dissappointed.
Republicans are too stupid to Understand what is happening to them and
their country.
Joseph Welch
"Pookie" <pooki...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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> The Facts About Clinton and Terrorism
Clinton record on terorrism:
On February 10, 1995, a counterterrorism bill drafted by the Clinton
Administration (Omnibus Counterterrorism Act of 1995) was introduced in the
Senate as S. 390 and in the House of Representatives as H.R. 896.
1.Authorized the Justice Department to choose crimes to investigate and
prosecute based on political beliefs and associations;
2.Repeal the ancient provision barring the U.S. military from civilian law
enforcement.
3.Expand a pre-trial detention.
4.Loosen the rules governing federal wiretaps.
5.Establish courts that would use secret evidence to order the deportation
of persons convicted of crimes.
6.Permit permanent detention by the Attorney General of aliens convicted or
suspected of crimes pending court.
7.Give the President unreviewable power to criminalize fund-raising for
unlawful activities associated terrorist causes.
8.Renege on the Administration's approval in the last Congress of a
provision to insure the FBI will investigate terrorist activities.
9.Resurrect the discredited ideological visa denial provisions of the
McCarran Walter Act.
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The Clinton administration fired 79 cruise missiles at bin Laden's camps in
Afghanistan and at a pharmaceutical plant in Sudan in August 1998, less than
two weeks after terrorist bombs killed more than 200 people at the U.S.
embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. The 79 missiles fired at the Zhawar Kili
complex in Khost, Afghanistan--a base camp, a support camp and four nearby
training camps--killed participants in what U.S. officials described as a
meeting to plot further terrorist attacks.
But bin Laden survived the attack, and experts have questioned the use of
expensive cruise missiles against "mud huts."
Still, the senior Clinton administration official contended that the 1998
missile strikes were highly effective. "You can't always judge by the number
of buildings destroyed what the impact of an operation is," the official
said.
2000 The Washington Post
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CIA-run agents who had infiltrated terrorist groups in recent years aided in
intelligence gathering that helped prevent two attacks in the past seven
months against U.S. embassies abroad, new CIA Director George J. Tenet told
Congress earlier this year. Rep. Porter J. Goss (R-Fla.), the first chairman
of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence to have served as a
CIA case officer, said such operations, particularly in the area of
counterterrorism, represented a new type of clandestine activity. "There are
a large number of hidden activities going on to meet transnational threats,"
he said, "but I'm reluctant to call them covert action." Copyright 1997 The
Washington Post Company
Walter Pincus Washington Post Staff Writer Sunday, September 14, 1997; Page
A06 The Washington Post
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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Thirteen Saudis and a Lebanese were indicted Thursday on
charges of murder and conspiracy for the 1996 bombing that killed 19
American servicemen in Saudi Arabia. The indictment alleges that the
suspects were directed by Iranian government officials.
The 46-count indictment alleges that all 14 men were members of the Islamic
militant group Hezbollah, which federal officials said received support and
inspiration from individuals within the Iranian government.
http://www6.cnn.com/2001/LAW/06/21/khobar.indictments/
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Former CIA officer Douglas Groat was arrested Friday on charges of passing
classified information to two foreign nation and attempting to extort money
from the CIA in return for not selling more secrets.
Eyad Ismoil was sentenced to 240 years in prison and ordered to pay $10
million in fines Friday for his role in the 1993 bombing of the World Trade
Center.
INTELLIGENT NETWORK CONCEPTS, INC. April 6, 1998
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Embassy bomb plot foiled in Uganda 1999
KAMPALA, Uganda - Ugandan authorities are holding 20 people in connection
with a plot to blow up the U.S. Embassy in Kampala, and the FBI was invited
into the East African nation to help with the investigation, a government
minister said Thursday.
Regional cooperation minister Amama Mbabazi told a parliamentary session
that the FBI agents were invited to Uganda following the Aug. 7 bombings of
the U.S. diplomatic missions in neighboring Kenya and Tanzania in which 259
people, including 12 Americans, died.
"It is true that the Ugandan government through security services asked for
and obtained services of the FBI for expertise on bomb attacks which are
beyond our capacity to handle," Mbabazi said.
Over the weekend, security officials said 18 people had been arrested in
connection with plans to hit American and Ugandan targets in the country. It
was not clear when the other two people were detained.
More than a dozen FBI agents worked with the Ugandan Anti-Terrorism Squad to
uncover the recent plot, seizing documents from the homes and businesses of
the suspects.
The CIA warned border authorities to be on the lookout for the two
ringleaders, who they said planned to direct the operation using local
militants. Law enforcement sources told the Post that U.S. prosecutors are
considering charges against them.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/bomb141.htm
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Bin Laden targeted U.S. embassy in India
NEW DELHI, India (AP) - Indian police say suspected terrorist Osama bin
Laden was behind a plot to bomb the U.S. Embassy and two American consular
offices in the country, local newspapers reported Wednesday.
The State Department expressed grave concern Wednesday over the reported
threat, and an embassy spokeswoman said U.S. counterterrorism experts were
in the Indian capital assessing the alleged plot.
Local newspaper reports said police had arrested four people, including a
Bangladeshi man suspected of working for Pakistan's intelligence agency.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/bomb170.htm
Four bin Laden followers indicted 1999
NEW YORK - Four followers of Islamic extremist Osama bin Laden plotted a
far-reaching terrorist campaign to kill Americans, including the bombings of
U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, a sweeping federal indictment alleges.
The indictment, handed up Wednesday, marks the first time that authorities
have linked the suspects to a single international plan to kill Americans.
And unlike earlier indictments against the suspects, this one charges three
of them with more than 200 counts of murder - one for "each and every victim
of the embassy bombings," U.S. Attorney Mary Jo White said in a statement.
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Bin Laden allegedly tried to kill Clinton 1999
NEW YORK - Saudi millionaire Osama bin Laden, the alleged plotter of the U.S
embassy bombings in Africa, directed his followers at least twice to kill
President Clinton, but neither attempt was ever made, according to published
reports Tuesday.
The first assassination attempt was to take place when Clinton visited the
Philippines to begin a trip to Asia on Nov. 12, 1994, but it was abandoned
because of heavy security, Newsday reported Tuesday, citing counterterrorism
and intelligence sources.
A second attempt was planned for Pakistan in February, when Clinton had
scheduled - but later canceled - a visit.
Yousef admitted his plan to kill Clinton to FBI agents who were escorting
him from Pakistan to New York in 1995 for his trial in the bombing, the
sources said. But he did not identify bin Laden as the mastermind, the
sources said.
A federal grand jury in Manhattan recently heard details of the aborted
assassination plot, the sources said.
Lets forget for the moment that Reagan & Bush bankrolled bin Laden & the Al
Qaeda network and ignored warnings, taking a camel jockey & backwards flea
infested tent dwellers and turning them into a Terrorist organization. Just
set that aside for now.
Horrorwitz alleges "Americans were increasenly vulnerable to attacks and did
nothing." That is a lie, Republicans know it is, Horrorwitz knows it is. So
tell us why you deliberately perpetrate a lie?? Is it your own guilt for
supporting an UnAmerican Dictator and Vietnam War Deserter? Curious what is
going through your mind. HERE IS NOTHING AND IT MAKES HORRORWITZ A LIAR!!
Terrorism Legislation and Executive Orders:
Preparedness Against Terrorism Act of 2000 (Introduced in the House)
Justice for Victims of Terrorism Act (Introduced in the Senate)
Effective Counterrorism Act of 1996
Comprehensive Antiterrorism Act of 1995
Comprehensive Antiterrorism Act of 1995
Counter Terrorism Technology Research Act of 1995
Antiterrorism Amendments Act of 1995
Effective Death Penalty and Antiterrorism Act of 1995
Senate Omnibus Counter Terrorism Act of 1995
House Omnibus Counter Terrorism Act of 1995
Executive Order Prohibiting Transactions with Terrorists
Senator Feinstein's Amendment to Prohibit the Distribution of Bomb Making
Information on the Internet
Executive Order Prohibiting Transactions with Terrorists
Highlights of President Clinton's Anti-Terrorism Legislation
Hearings on Wiretapping and other Terrorism Proposals
Terrorism Facts:
CRS Report for Congress -- Terrorism: Near Eastern Groups and State
Sponsors, 2001 -- September 10, 2001
CRS Report for Congress -- Terrorism: Automated Lookout Systems and Border
Security Options and Issues -- June 18, 2001
GAO Report Combating Terrorism: Threat and Risk Assessments Can Help
Prioritize and Target Program Investments (April 1998)
1995 Patterns of Global Terrorism
The Clinton Administration's Position on Terrorism
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OK Republicans, NOW THAT WE HAVE ESTABLISHED THAT HORRORWITZ IS A LIAR &
NEWSMAX SPREADS LIES, how does it make you feel to perpetrate a lie?? We are
talking about your character here.
First the Horrorwitz lie. He claims "Clinton's own secretary of defense,
William Cohen, in a July 1999 op-ed piece in the Washington Post, predicted
a terrorist attack on America's mainland." That statement is a LIE. Cohen
didn't "predict" squat. He uses the word "COULD" twice in the Washinton Post
article, not "WILL," as in will happen.
"In an editorial published in Monday's Washington Post, US Defense Secretary
William Cohen argued that a biological warfare attack on the US could could
cause "a plague more monstrous than anything we have experienced." Cohen
warned that a surprise attack could infect "unsuspecting thousands" and turn
hospitals into "warehouses for the dead and dying."
And here is what Clinton did, for the benefit of the Horrorwitz LIAR & his
minion Republican followers who spread his LIES.
1.CIA-run agents who had infiltrated terrorist groups in recent years aided
in intelligence gathering that helped prevent two attacks in the past seven
months against U.S. embassies abroad, new CIA Director George J. Tenet told
Congress earlier this year. Rep. Porter J. Goss (R-Fla.), the first chairman
of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence to have served as a
CIA case officer, said such operations, particularly in the area of
counterterrorism, represented a new type of clandestine activity. "There are
a large number of hidden activities going on to meet transnational threats,"
he said, "but I'm reluctant to call them covert action."
Copyright 1997 The Washington Post Company
2."Although the US military is barred from domestic law enforcement, the
Pentagon is assembling 14 specially trained National Guard and Army Reserve
units to assist police and fire departments in coping with a possible NBC
terrorist attack."
3."The Pentagon is said to be considering a temporary suspension of public
tours because of heightened concerns of a possible terrorist attack by the
followers of master terrorist Usama bin Laden."
(http://www.emergency.com/1999/0799thrt.htm Excerpted from: ERRI DAILY
INTELLIGENCE REPORT-ERRI Risk Assessment Services-Thursday, July 29,
1999-Vol. 5 - 210-09:0CDT)
4."Senator Lugar, who is an expert in national security issues, said, "Our
goal is to allow the Department of Defense and other federal agencies to
transfer their knowledge of chemical, biological and nuclear warfare to
civilian forces." (http://www.emergency.com/chgoprep.htm)
Horrorwitz claims the CIA could not get a meeting with Clinton after 1993.
That is also a Big Lie.
The fact is, the CIA didn't attend the meetings.
DoD News Briefing Tuesday, November 10, 1998 - 1:45 p.m.
"Q: The President had meetings with some Pentagon officials today, evidently
in response to his request for more information. Was that meeting sufficient
for a response to what the President needed, or was there an additional
request for additional information?
A: He didn't meet exclusively with military advisors. Secretary Albright was
there and National Security Advisor Burger was also there. Secretary Cohen
and General Shelton were there. It was a private meeting, and I think I
should let the outcome of the meeting remain private."
(http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Nov1998/t11101998_t1110asd.html)
The BIG LIE by Horrorwitz is that The national Commission On Terrorism in
2000 was somehow a Liberal effort to stop terrorist legislation, when in
fact it was Trent Lott & Hatch that were openly opposed to the legislation
and gutted the bill of enforcement issues.
===================== TRENT LOTT - HATCH =====================
President wants Senate to hurry with new anti-terrorism laws July 30, 1996
Web posted at: 8:40 p.m. EDT
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Clinton urged Congress Tuesday to act swiftly
in developing anti-terrorism legislation before its August recess.
"We need to keep this country together right now. We need to focus on this
terrorism issue," Clinton said during a White House news conference.
But while the president pushed for quick legislation, Republican lawmakers
hardened their stance against some of the proposed anti-terrorism measures.
Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott, R-Mississippi, doubted that the Senate
would rush to action before they recess this weekend. The Senate needs to
study all the options, he said, and trying to get it done in the next three
days would be tough.
One key GOP senator was more critical, calling a proposed study of chemical
markers in explosives "a phony issue."
Taggants value disputed
Clinton said he knew there was Republican opposition to his proposal on
explosive taggants, but it should not be allowed to block the provisions on
which both parties agree.
"What I urge them to do is to be explicit about their disagreement, but
don't let it overcome the areas of agreement," he said.
The president emphasized coming to terms on specific areas of disagreement
would help move the legislation along. The president stressed it's important
to get the legislation out before the weekend's recess, especially following
the bombing of Centennial Olympic Park and the crash of TWA Flight 800.
"The most important thing right now is that they get the best, strongest
bill they can out -- that they give us as much help as they can," he said.
Hatch blasts 'phony' issues
Republican leaders earlier met with White House Chief of Staff Leon Panetta
for about an hour in response to the president's call for "the very best
ideas" for fighting terrorism.
Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee,
emerged from the meeting and said, "These are very controversial provisions
that the White House wants. Some they're not going to get."
Hatch called Clinton's proposed study of taggants -- chemical markers in
explosives that could help track terrorists -- "a phony issue."
"If they want to, they can study the thing" already, Hatch asserted. He also
said he had some problems with the president's proposals to expand
wiretapping.
Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle, D-South Dakota, said it is a mistake if
Congress leaves town without addressing anti-terrorism legislation. Daschle
is expected to hold a special meeting on the matter Wednesday with
Congressional leaders.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
http://www.cnn.com/US/9607/30/clinton.terrorism/
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Congress passes anti-terrorism bill April 18, 1996 Web posted at: 6:30 p.m.
EDT
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Congress on Thursday passed a compromise bill boosting
the ability of law enforcement authorities to fight domestic terrorism, just
one day before the first anniversary of the Oklahoma City bombing.
The House voted, 293-133, to send the anti-terrorism bill to President
Clinton, who has indicated that he will sign it after he returns from his
overseas trip next week.
The measure, which the Senate passed overwhelmingly Wednesday evening, is a
watered-down version of the White House's proposal. The Clinton
administration has been critical of the bill, calling it too weak.
The original House bill, passed last month, had deleted many of the Senate's
anti-terrorism provisions because of lawmakers' concerns about increasing
federal law enforcement powers. Some of those provisions were restored in
the compromise bill.
The bill imposes limits on federal appeals by death row inmates and other
prisoners and makes the death penalty available in some international
terrorism cases and in cases where a federal employee is killed on duty.
The bill "has some very effective tools that we can use in our efforts to
combat terrorism," Attorney General Janet Reno said Thursday.
But she was less enthusiastic about the bill's limits on federal appeals by
death row inmates and other prisoners. She was also concerned that the bill
would make it more difficult for federal judges to overturn state court
rulings.
Republicans were divided on whether the legislation would be effective.
"We have a measure that will give us a strong upper hand in the battle to
prevent and punish domestic and international terrorism," Senate Majority
Leader and presumptive GOP presidential nominee Bob Dole said Wednesday.
But Sen. Don Nickles, R-Oklahoma, while praising the bill, said the country
remains "very open" to terrorism. "Will it stop any acts of terrorism,
domestic and international? No," he said, adding, "We don't want a police
state."
Some lawmakers took a more prudent view of the bill. "The balance between
public safety and order and individual rights is always a difficult dilemma
in a free society," said Rep. Gerald Solomon, R-New York.
Congressional leaders had initially promised to complete the bill six weeks
after the Oklahoma City federal building bombing that killed 168 people last
April 19.
http://www.cnn.com/US/9604/18/anti.terror.bill/index.html
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Espionage Legislation:
Intelligence Authorization Act of 1996 - House Version
Economic Espionage and Protection of Proprietary Economic Information Act of
1995 (Introduced in the Senate)
Industrial Espionage Act of 1996 (Introduced in the Senate)
Economic Security Act of 1996 (Introduced in the Senate)
Economic and Industrial Espionage:
Economic Espionage: Information on Threat from U.S. Allies
Economic Espionage and Protection of Proprietary Economic Information Act of
1995 Industrial Espionage Act of 1996
Economic Security Act of 1996
Japanese Commercial Intelligence Gathering
Sources of Public Information on Privately Held Companies
Uniform Trade Secrets Act
1998 Annual Report to Congress on Foreign Economic Collection and Industrial
Espionage
1997 Annual Report to Congress on Foreign Economic Collection and Industrial
Espionage
1996 Annual Report to Congress on Foreign Economic Collection and Industrial
Espionage
1995 Annual Report to Congress on Foreign Economic Collection and Industrial
Espionage
Terrorism Legislation:
Effective Counterrorism Act of 1996 (Introduced in the House)
Nuclear Terrorism Jurisdiction and Control Act (Introduced in the House)
Comprehensive Antiterrorism Act of 1995 (Introduced in the House)
Comprehensive Antiterrorism Act of 1995 (Introduced in the Senate)
Counter Terrorism Technology Research Act of 1995 (Introduced in the House)
Antiterrorism Amendments Act of 1995 (Introduced in the House)
Effective Death Penalty and Antiterrorism Act of 1995 (Introduced in the
House)
National Security Legislation:
National Security and Classified Information Protection Act of 1995
(Introduced in the House)
Amendment to the National Security Act of 1947 to Establish a Director and
Deputy Director of the National Security Council (Introduced in the House)
Law Enforcement Legislation:
Prison Security Act of 1995 (Introduced in the House)
Law Enforcement and Industrial Security Cooperation Act of 1996 (Introduced
in the House) Local Law Enforcement Enhancement Act of 1995 (Introduced in
the Senate)
Victim's Rights and Domestice Violence Prevention Act of 1995 (Introduced in
the Senate)
Enhancement of Border Security in Southern California (Introduced in the
House)
Crime Prevention Act of 1995 (Introduced in the Senate)
Background Security Records Act of 1997 (Introduced in the House)
The United States Code
Information Protection Legislation:
H.R.3332 -- Next Generation Internet Research Act of 1998 (ntroduced in the
House)
A Bill to Protect the National Information Infrastructure, and for Other
Purposes (S.982)
Government Information Security Act of 1999 (Reported in the Senate)
Cyber Security Information Act (Introduced in the House)
Computer Security Enhancement Act of 1997 (Passed by the House)
Encryption Legislation:
S.2067 -- Encryptian Protects the Rights of Individuals from Violation and
Abuse in Cyberspace (E-Privacy) Act. (Introduced in the Senate)
Encrypted Communications Privacy Act of 1996 (Introduced in the Senate)
Security and Freedom Through Encryption Act (Introduced in the House)
Promotion of Commerce On-Line in the Digital Era Act of 1996 (Introduced in
the Senate)
Miscellaneous Security Legislation:
The Mom and Pop Store Protection Act of 1995 (Introduced in the House)
Private Security Officer's Quality Assurance Act of 1995 (Introduced in the
House)
Private Security Officer Quality Assurance Act of 1997 (House Bill Referred
to a Senate Committee)
Anti-Counterfeiting Consumer Protection Act of 1995 (Passed in the Senate)
Neighborhood Security Act (Introduced in the Senate)
Aviation Safety Protection Act of 1996 (Introduced in the House)
Private Security Officer Quality Assurance Act of 1999 (Introduced in the
House)
Safe School Security Act of 1999 (Reported in the Senate) S638.pdf
Privacy Protection Act of 1997 (Introduced in the House) HR 3261.pdf
The Aldrich Ames Espionage Case:
The Ames Espionage Case an NSI Special Report
The CIA Inspector General's Report on the Aldrich Ames Spy Case
1995 CIA Inspector Geneneral Statement before the Senate Intelligence
Committee on the Ames Affair
DCI Deutch Statement on the Ames Damage Assessment Oct. 95
DCI Deutch Statement befor the Senate Intelligence Committee on the Ames
Damage Assessment Dec. 95
(National Security Institute's - Security Resource Net -
http://nsi.org/Default2.html)
Bush record on terorrism:
EARLY 2001 - WHITE HOUSE DEPARTS FROM EFFORTS TO TRACK TERRORIST
MONEY: The new Bush Treasury Department "disapproved of the Clinton
Administration's approach to money laundering issues, which had been an
important part of the drive to cut off the money flow to bin Laden."
Specifically, the Bush Administration opposed Clinton
Administration-backed efforts by the G-7 and the Organization for
Economic Cooperation and Development that targeted countries with
"loose banking regulations" being abused by terrorist financiers.
Meanwhile, the Bush Administration provided "no funding for the new
National Terrorist Asset Tracking Center." [Source: The Age of Sacred
Terror, 2003]
APRIL 30, 2001 - BUSH ADMINISTRATION SAYS BIN LADEN FOCUS WAS
"MISTAKE": The Bush Administration released the government's annual
report on terrorism, but unlike previous Administrations, it decided to
specifically omit an "extensive mention of alleged terrorist mastermind
Osama bin Laden. A senior State Department official told CNN the U.S.
government made a mistake in focusing so much energy on bin Laden."
Similarly, AP reported in 2002 that the Bush Administration's "national
security leadership met formally nearly 100 times in the months prior
to the Sept. 11 attacks yet terrorism was the topic during only two of
those sessions." [Source: CNN, 4/30/01; AP, 6/29/01]
The federal government was rapidly increasing its counter-terrorism
efforts at the time President Bush took office. As the New York Times
reported, Attorney General Janet Reno ended her tenure as "perhaps the
strongest advocate" of counterterrorism spending. Similarly, Newsweek
and the Washington Post reported National Security Adviser Sandy Berger
was "totally preoccupied" with the prospect of a domestic terror
attack, telling his replacement that they need to be "spending more
time on this issue" than on any other. The focus changed dramatically
when the Bush Administration took office.
ADMINISTRATION SHIFTED LAW ENFORCEMENT'S FOCUS OFF OF
COUNTER-TERRORISM: The New York Times reported that in the lead-up to
9/11, Attorney General John Ashcroft "said fighting terrorism was a top
priority of his agency," yet upon entering office, "he identified more
than a dozen other objectives for greater emphasis within the Justice
Department before the attacks." On Aug. 9, the Administration
distributed a strategic plan to the Justice Department highlighting its
new goals from a list of Clinton Administration goals. The item that
referred to intelligence and investigation of terrorists was left
un-highlighted. [Source: NY Times, 2/28/02]
ASHCROFT OVERRULED EFFORTS FOCUSED ON COUNTER-TERROR: Newsweek reported
that "in the spring of 2001, the attorney general had an extraordinary
confrontation with the then FBI Director Louis Freeh at an annual
meeting of special agents." The two talked before appearing, and
Ashcroft laid out his priorities for Freeh: "basically violent crime
and drugs," recalls one participant. Freeh replied bluntly that those
were not his priorities, and began to talk about terror and
counterterrorism. "Ashcroft didn't want to hear about it," says a
former senior law-enforcement official." [Source: Newsweek, 5/27/02]
BUSH ADMINISTRATION TERMINATED PROGRAM THAT TRACKED AL QAEDA: "In the
months before 9/11, the U.S. Justice Department curtailed a highly
classified program called 'Catcher's Mitt' to monitor Al Qaeda suspects
in the United States." [Source: Newsweek, 3/21/04]
SO LITTLE CONCERN FOR COUNTER-TERROR THAT A WHITE HOUSE TASK FORCE
NEVER MET: In January of 2001, the U.S. Government's bipartisan
Commission on National Security gave the White House a report that
warned of an attack on the homeland and urged the new Administration to
implement its specific "recommendations to prevent acts of domestic
terrorism. The Administration rejected the Commission's report,
"preferring to put aside the recommendations." Instead, the
Administration waited until May of 2001 to appoint Vice President
Cheney to head a task force "to combat terrorist attacks on the United
States." But according to the Washington Post, neither "Cheney's review
nor Bush's took place." Meanwhile, Newsweek reported that when senators
"sent a copy of draft legislation on counterterrorism and homeland
defense to Cheney's office on July 20," they were told by Cheney's top
aide "that it might be another six months before he would be able to
review the material." [Source: Salon, 9/12/04; White House release,
5/8/01; Washington Post, 1/20/02; Newsweek, 5/27/02]
WHITE HOUSE BEGAN EFFORT TO CUT COUNTER-TERRORISM PROGRAMS: The New
York Times reported that in its final 2003 budget request, the
Administration "called for spending increases in 68 programs, none of
which directly involved counterterrorism...In his Sept. 10 submission
to the budget office, Ashcroft did not endorse FBI requests for $58
million for 149 new counterterrorism field agents, 200 intelligence
analysts and 54 additional translators. Ashcroft proposed a $65 million
cut for a program that gives states and localities counterterrorism
grants for equipment, including radios and decontamination suits and
training." By comparison, "Under Janet Reno, the department's
counterterrorism budget increased 13.6% in the fiscal year 1999, 7.1%
in 2000 and 22.7% in 2001." [Source: NY Times, 2/28/02]
ADMINISTRATION LEFT "GAPS" IN MILITARY'S REQUEST FOR COUNTER-TERROR
FUNDS: The Washington Post reported that in its first budget, the White
House left "gaps" between "what military commanders said they needed to
combat terrorists and what they got." Newsweek noted that, among other
things, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld elected not to re-launch a
Predator drone that had been tracking bin Laden. When the Senate Armed
Services Committee tried to fill those gaps, "Rumsfeld said he would
recommend a veto" on September 9. [Source: Washington Post, 1/20/02;
Newsweek, 5/27/02; NY Times, 2/28/02]
ADMINISTRATION STOPPED PREDATOR FLIGHTS TRACKING AL QAEDA IN
AFGHANISTAN: AP reported "though Predator drones spotted Osama bin
Laden as many as three times in late 2000, the Bush administration did
not fly the unmanned planes over Afghanistan during its first eight
months." Additionally, "the military successfully tested an armed
Predator throughout the first half of 2001" but the White House "failed
to resolve a debate over whether the CIA or Pentagon should operate the
armed Predators" and the armed Predator never got off the ground before
9/11. [Source: AP, 6/25/03]
WHILE CUTTING COUNTER-TERROR, THE WHITE HOUSE SENT FUNDING TO THE
TALIBAN: At the same time the White House was trying to cut
counter-terrorism funding, it gave "$43 million in drought aid to
Afghanistan after the Taliban began a campaign against poppy growers."
As the 5/29/01 edition of Newsday noted, the Taliban rulers of
Afghanistan "are a decidedly odd choice for an outright gift of $43
million from the Bush Administration. This is the same government
against which the United Nation imposes sanctions, at the behest of the
United States, for refusing to turn over the terrorist mastermind Osama
bin Laden." [Washington Post, 9/23/01; Newsday, 5/29/01]
--
George W. Bush has made the terrorists stronger, their influence wider,
their numbers larger, and their motivation to attack the U.S. and other
western interests greater. He has repeatedly abused his authority and
violated his Oath of Office by turning his back on the United States
Constitution; thereby surrendering to the terrorists by undermining American
freedoms,values, and the very foundations of our system of government.
Supporting Bush is treason.
***************
JW
***************
"You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have
you left no sense of decency?"
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/welch-mccarthy.html
abracadabra
>
> The Facts About Clinton and Terrorism
> You don't need a movie to see his failures.
1st WTC bombing - all the culprits are rotting in jail
OK City bombing - culprit caught, tried and executed
Atlanta bombings - culprit caught
911?
Where's Osama?
You don't need a movie to see Bush's failures, but you'd need a microscope
to find Byron York's brain.
Lloyd King
>
> The Facts About Clinton and Terrorism
> You don't need a movie to see his failures.
>
> By Byron York
>
<snip blather>
> At the time of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, his administration was
> just beginning, and he was embroiled in controversies over gays in the
> military, an economic stimulus plan, and the beginnings of Hillary
> Clinton's health-care task force. Khobar Towers happened not only in the
> midst of the president's re-election campaign but also at the end of a
> month in which there were new and damaging developments in the Whitewater
> and Filegate scandals. The African embassy attacks occurred as the Monica
> Lewinsky affair was at fever pitch, in the month that Clinton appeared
> before independent counsel Kenneth Starr's grand jury. And when the Cole
> was rammed, Clinton had little time left in office and was desperately
> hoping to build his legacy with a breakthrough in the Arab-Israeli
> conflict. Whenever a serious terrorist attack occurred, it seemed Bill
> Clinton was always busy with something else.
>
Jeeze... as if Clinton had any control over those things. Elections happen
when they happen. The Lewinsky BS wasn't driven by Clinton, but by
Republicans. And the Cole was bombed 3 months before Clinton left office.
etc. But this bozo tries to imply that there was something sinister in the
timing of these things. Even the first WTC bombing - when Clinton was
involved in his economic stimulus plan and the health care plan. As if he
institututed those things in a devious plan to divert attention from the
upcoming WTC bombing.
Unbelievable!
> The First WTC Attack
> Clinton had been in office just 38 days when terrorists bombed the World
> Trade Center, killing six people and injuring more than 1,000. Although it
> was later learned that the bombing was the work of terrorists who hoped to
> topple one of the towers into the other and kill as many as 250,000
> people, at first it was not clear that the explosion was the result of
> terrorism.
Total bullshit. The FBI arrested some of the terrorists within days.
> The new president's reaction seemed almost disengaged. He warned Americans
> against "overreacting" and, in an interview on MTV, described the bombing
> as the work of someone who "did something really stupid."
On MTV. Speaking to a bunch of kids. Yeah... so...?
>
> From the start, Clinton approached the investigation as a law-enforcement
> issue.
And it was - and IS. Our best results have come from law enforcement work,
not from military adventures.
> In doing so, he effectively cut out some of the government's most
> important intelligence agencies. For example, the evidence gathered by FBI
> agents and prosecutors came under the protection of laws mandating
> grand-jury secrecy - which meant that the law-enforcement side of the
> investigation could not tell the intelligence side of the investigation
> what was going on. "Nobody outside the prosecutorial team and maybe the
> FBI had access," says James Woolsey, who was CIA director at the time. "It
> was all under grand-jury secrecy."
Clinton caught, tried and CONVICTED the terrorists who blew up the WTC on
his watch. Bin Laden is still free. To be fair, the Pakistanis did catch
Khalid Sheiikh Mohammed and some others, and they turned them over to us.
But Bush hasn't convicted anyone (except Moussaoui, who was actually not
involved in 9/11). Why is that? Can't Bush prove their guilt?
>
> Another problem with Clinton's decision to assign the investigation
> exclusively to law enforcement was that law enforcement in the new
> administration was in turmoil. When the bomb went off, Clinton did not
> have a confirmed attorney general; Janet Reno, who was nominated after the
> Zoė Baird fiasco, was awaiting Senate approval.
As if that was somehow Clinton's fault or the result of Clinton's
malfeasance. Jeeze... confirming an attorney general works according to
our laws, and the terrorists don't consult that schedule when decidin whn to
act.
Unbelievable...
<snip a bunch more BS>
This writer is so wack that there's no point in even continuing to read this
crap. He blames Clinton for things like leaving office and for the
Republicans' shameless political show trial impeachment nonsense.
Unbelievable.
Pookie
"bushhelpscorporationsdestroyamerica" <bushhelpsc...@yahoo.com>
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How Bill Clinton Compromised America's National Security
by Buzz Patterson
Posted Sep 11, 2006
An excerpt from "Dereliction of Duty: The Eyewitness Account of How Bill
Clinton Compromised America's National Security."
The White House Situation Room was buzzing. It was fall 1998 and the
National Security Council (NSC) and the "intelligence community" were
tracking the whereabouts of Osama bin Laden, the shadowy mastermind of
terrorist attacks on American targets overseas. "They've successfully
triangulated his location," yelled a "Sit Room" watch stander. "We've got
him."
Beneath the West Wing of the White House, behind a vaulted steel door, the
Sit Room staff sprang into action. The watch officer notified National
Security Advisor Sandy Berger, "Sir, we've located bin Laden. We have a
two-hour window to strike."
Characteristic of the Clinton administration, the weapons of choice would be
Tomahawk missiles. No clandestine "snatch" by our Special Operations Forces.
No penetrating bombers or highspeed fighter aircraft flown by our Air Force
and Navy forces. No risk of losing American lives.
Berger ambled down the stairwell and entered the Sit Room. He picked up the
phone at one of the busy controller consoles and called the president.
Amazingly, President Clinton was not available. Berger tried again and
again. Bin Laden was within striking distance. The window of opportunity was
closing fast. The plan of attack was set and the Tomahawk crews were ready.
For about an hour Berger couldn't get the commander in chief on the line.
Though the president was always accompanied by military aides and the Secret
Service, he was somehow unavailable. Berger stalked the Sit Room, anxious
and impatient.
Finally, the president accepted Berger's call. There was discussion, there
were pauses-and no decision. The president wanted to talk with his
secretaries of defense and state. He wanted to study the issue further.
Berger was forced to wait. The clock was ticking. The president eventually
called back. He was still indecisive. He wanted more discussion. Berger
alternated between phone calls and watching the clock. The NSC watch
officer was convinced we had the right target. The intelligence sources
were conclusive. The president, however, wanted a guaranteed hit or nothing
at all. This time, it was nothing at all. We didn't pull the trigger. We
"studied" the issue until it was too late-the window of opportunity closed.
Al-Qaeda's spiritual and organizational leader slipped through the noose.
This lost bin Laden hit typified the Clinton administration's ambivalent,
indecisive way of dealing with terrorism. Ideologically, the Clinton
administration was committed to the idea that most terrorists were
misunderstood, had legitimate grievances, and could be appeased, which is
why such military action as the administration authorized was so
halfhearted, and ineffective, and designed more for "show" than for honestly
eliminating a threat.
When on February 26, 1993, Egyptian and Palestinian terrorists blew a hole
six stories deep under the North Tower of the World Trade Center, President
Clinton had been in office thirty-eight days. Eight months after President
Clinton left office, al-Qaeda terrorists flew hijacked U.S. commercial
airliners into the North and South Towers of the World Trade Center and into
the Pentagon. The towers came down, as the terrorists finished the job begun
eight years earlier. From 1993 to 2001, Islamic terrorists attacked American
targets ten separate times. If there's anything beyond scandal that we
should most remember about the Clinton years, this is it: They were the
years that terrorists brought their war to the United States.
The Clinton administration never responded decisively, even when given the
opportunity, as it was obliged to do, with its own "war against terrorism."
If we had a national interest in sending troops to Haiti and Rwanda,
certainly the Clinton administration had an obligation in the name of our
national security to deploy and use the military resources necessary to deal
with al-Qaeda as its deadly presence became known and its declared war on
America became public and costly. That it did not respond is a consequence
for which the Clinton administration is, in my view, extremely culpable. By
failing to answer the threat as it should have, the Clinton administration
was guilty of gross negligence and dereliction of duty to the safety of our
country, which the president was sworn to defend.
Compare this with the decisive reactions to fight terrorism under President
Reagan. On October 8, 1985, a group of Palestinian terrorists seized the
Italian luxury liner Achille Lauro off the coast of Alexandria, Egypt. The
terrorists were seeking the release of Palestinian prisoners being held by
Israel. In the course of their hijacking, they would kill an American,
sixty-nine-year-old Leon Klinghoffer.
The direction from the White House down to the Pentagon and on to the
operational units was swift and clear. Within a few hours, I received a
phone call at home, quickly packed for an unknown period of time and
destination, and was flying a C-141 from Charleston Air Force Base, South
Carolina, to pick up members of the First Special Forces Operational
Detachment-Delta, as it was known then, or Delta Force.
We flew nonstop to Sigonella Naval Air Station in Sicily and set up
operations for the potential interdiction and seizure of the ship. The
rapidity and strength of executive decision-making found refuge in the heart
of every airman and soldier involved. There was no question as to our
intent or conviction.
The terrorists left the boat under safe haven provided by Egypt two days
later and boarded an Egyptian airliner bound for the sanctity of Tunisia. On
October 11, U. S. Navy F-14 jets intercepted the airliner and forced it to
land at Sigonella. Members of the Delta Forced poured from a following
C-141, surrounded the jet, and quickly took the terrorists into captivity.
In all, three days from presidential directive to successful outcome.
In another instance, the La Belle Discotheque in West Berlin was bombed on
April 5, 1986, killing one American soldier and wounding more than two
hundred, of which at least sixty were fellow U.S. servicemen. Within hours,
the U.S. pinpointed Libya as the perpetrator through intercepted telephone
calls. Two days later, my crew and I got the call and began the long flight
east. This time we were hauling the armaments, the missiles, and the rocket
motors to be installed on U.S. fighters at bases in the United Kingdom. When
we arrived, we were met by an already established twenty-four-hour base of
operations. Again it was clear: Here was conviction and resolve. The plans
were being laid out, and every airman knew the situation and embraced it.
On April 15, the U.S. launched air strikes at the heart of Libya. Eighteen
U.S. Air Force F-111 aircraft launched from British attack sites in Tripoli,
firing missiles at military barracks, headquarters, the Tripoli airport, and
commando training bases. Fifteen U.S. Navy A-6 and A-7 attack jets hit
military targets in Benghazi.
President Reagan addressed the nation. "Our evidence is direct, it is
precise, and it is irrefutable. Today we have done what we had to do. If
necessary, we shall do it again. . . . He [Muammar Qaddafi] counted on
America to be passive," declared the president. "He counted wrong."
Compare these successes with the legacy of the Clinton administration. The
truck bomb that exploded beneath the World Trade Center in early 1993 killed
six Americans and injured more than one thousand. Initially, the Clinton
administration adopted the theory that it was a simple criminal act and
handled the bombing as a law enforcement issue. President Clinton even
warned Americans against "overreacting." In an interview with MTV he
described the attack as having been perpetrated by someone who "did
something really stupid." In no way did the administration see this
terrorist attack as rivaling in importance its preferred issues of "it's the
economy, stupid," socializing health care, and lifting the ban on
homosexuals in the military.
Treating the bombing solely as a law enforcement issue created barriers
preventing an effective resolution. Laws protecting grand jury secrecy
neutralized the involvement of the intelligence agencies, in effect
obstructing the identification and pursuit of a growing international terror
network. Further complicating things, the administration's law enforcement
team was not yet in place, because of the ill-organized and scandal-ridden
selection process of President Clinton's cabinet.
Foreboding clues emerged throughout the World Trade Center investigation,
pointing to a larger, more complex conspiracy. Testifying to the House
International Relations Committee in April 1995, terrorism expert Steven
Emerson stated that there was evidence "pointing to the involvement of Usama
bin Laden, the ex-Afghan Saudi Mujahideen supporter now taking refuge in the
Sudan."
Sheikh Omar Abdel-Rahman, who'd held three U.S. visas and was also on the
State Department's watch list for his involvement in the assassination of
Egypt's Anwar Sadat, was eventually convicted and sentenced to life
imprisonment as the ringleader of the bombing. The same fate was handed down
to five of his associates.
More important, an ancestral tree of terrorism was emerging. Ramzi Ahmed
Yousef, a master bomb builder, was captured in Pakistan on February 7, 1995.
He was implicated in the first World Trade Center bombing and accused of
planting the bomb that exploded aboard a Filipino commercial airliner en
route to Japan in 1995. He was arrested with files connecting him to
al-Qaeda and financing through bin Laden's brother-in-law. Most significant,
he was suspected of developing plans to use commercial airliners as weapons,
specifically to blow up the Central Intelligence Agency headquarters in
Langley, Virginia, among other targets. Filipino intelligence sources had
intercepted terrorist plans, which the terrorists had code-named Operation
Bojinka, or "loud bang" in Serbo-Croatian. But this developing picture was
not welcomed by the Clinton administration, which took a heavily lawyerly
approach-as suited the backgrounds of most of the administration-toward
these developments, rather than an approach more suitable to our national
security.
The single event that would forever underscore Clinton's foreign policy
efforts occurred on October 3, 1993-the Black Hawk Down incident that pitted
American forces against warlord Mohammed Farah Aidid, the emerging power
behind the guerrilla warfare being fought in and around Mogadishu. The Black
Hawk Down military failure shaped and reinforced the president's unfocused
posturing involving military action abroad; his preferred means of operation
was showing the flag while not incurring the risk or the cost of having to
support actual combat. Clinton's response four days after Mogadishu was to
announce the withdrawal of American combat troops and most logistics units.
He declared that the U.S. role in Somalia would end by March 31, 1994.
This was true, even when, in November 1996, bin Laden confessed in an
interview with the London-based Al-Quds Al-Arabi newspaper to his role in
the heavy losses suffered by U.S. troops in Somalia. "The only non-Somali
group which fought the Americans are the Arab Mujahedeen who were in
Afghanistan," he said. "There were successful battles in which we inflicted
heavy losses against the Americans. We used to hunt them in Mogadishu."
On March 8, 1995, a seemingly minor news account provided additional clues.
Two U.S. consulate workers were killed in Karachi, Pakistan. Their van, with
diplomatic license plates, was sprayed with bullets from men armed with
AK-47 assault rifles. Speculation pointed to retaliation for the arrest and
extradition of Ramzi Yousef. Pakistani prime minister Benazir Bhutto called
it "part of a well-planned campaign of terrorism." President Clinton called
the attack a "cowardly act" and sent an FBI team to Pakistan to investigate.
Again, the administration chose to treat the latest act of terrorism as a
law enforcement issue.
By 1995, the administration was paying close attention to bin Laden. He was
a millionaire, associated with known terrorist groups, and he had openly
detailed his hostility toward the United States. At this point, bin Laden
had yet to be tied to the attacks at the World Trade Center or in Mogadishu.
The government of Sudan, in an effort to improve its diplomatic standing
with America, offered to turn the terrorist-supporting bin Laden over to the
Saudis, but the Saudis refused to accept him, and President Clinton felt
that U.S. legal action against bin Laden was as yet unwarranted.
In November 1995, a bomb exploded near a U.S. military training center in
the Saudi Arabian capital of Riyadh. Seven people were killed, including
five Americans, and forty were wounded. It was the deadliest such attack
since the Beirut bombings of 1983.
President Clinton reacted angrily to the news. He promised that the United
States would "devote an enormous effort" to bringing the attackers to
justice. The FBI sent a team of agents to investigate, but the agents soon
became bogged down in Saudi bureaucracy. The Saudis eventually arrested four
militants but beheaded them before the FBI could interrogate them.
Seven months after the bombing in Riyadh, on June 25, 1996, a truck bomb
exploded outside Khobar Towers, the U.S. Air Force barracks in Dhahran,
Saudi Arabia. Nineteen airmen lost their lives and 515 were wounded. "The
explosion appears to be the work of terrorists, and if that is the case,
like all Americans, I am outraged by it," President Clinton declared. "We
will pursue this. . . . America takes care of our own. The cowards who
committed this murderous act must not go unpunished."
One month into my White House job, on June 30, 1996, I traveled with
President Clinton to Eglin Air Force Base, Florida, to attend one of the
memorial services held in a large aircraft hangar for twelve of the slain
airmen. It was a hot, muggy Florida morning, and on the way to the service
President Clinton seemed strangely detached. Maybe it was the jet-lagging
flight back from Europe that he'd just had. To me, he just seemed unaffected
and unmoved.
We wound our way through the crowded hangar normally used for aircraft
maintenance but now festooned with stars and stripes bunting. Injured
survivors from the blast had been flown in from the Gulf. They sat in
wheelchairs or were laid on gurneys in front of the stage. President Clinton
stepped to the podium. In the spotlight, he suddenly became engaged and
driven.
He invoked the Bible in a way that touched me as a career Air Force officer
and as a Christian. He said, "There is a passage in Isaiah in which God
wonders, 'Whom shall I send, and who will go for us?' Isaiah answers, 'Here
I am Lord; send me.' These men we honor today said to America, 'Send me.'"
Clinton then declared, "We will not rest in our efforts to capture,
prosecute, and punish those who committed this evil deed. . . . America must
not, and America will not, be driven from the fight against terrorism." I
believed him.
But there was no immediate response. The FBI concluded that Iran was behind
the attack; administration officials suppressed the report. In pursuit of
secret diplomatic initiatives to restore ties with Iran that would
ultimately fail, the United States turned the other cheek.
A full five years later, on June 21, 2001, a federal grand jury in
Washington indicted thirteen Saudis and a Lebanese for taking part in the
attack. None were turned over to the United States, and extradition still
appears unlikely.
During the summer of the 1996 attacks, I myself learned firsthand that the
administration knew that terrorists were plotting to use commercial
airliners as weapons. The president received a Presidential Daily Brief, or
PDB, every morning. It was a document encased in a smart leather folder, and
emblazoned with the presidential seal, that contained the president's daily
intelligence update from the NSC. A senior NSC representative normally
delivered it to the president. On weekends, at Camp David, and on vacations,
the military aide was responsible for delivering and retrieving the brief.
One late-summer Saturday morning, the president asked me to pick up a few
days' worth of PDBs that had accumulated in the Oval Office. He gave them to
me with handwritten notes stuffed inside the folders and asked that I
deliver them back to the NSC.
I opened the PDB to rearrange the notes and noticed the heading "Operation
Bojinka." I keyed on a reference to a plot to use commercial airliners as
weapons and another plot to put bombs on U.S. airliners. Because I was a
pilot, this naturally grabbed my attention. I can state for a fact that this
information was circulated within the U.S. intelligence community, and that
in late 1996 the president was aware of it.
Shortly thereafter, the president appointed Vice President Gore to chair the
White House Commission on Aviation Safety and Security. The commission's
report, released in spring 1998, laid out several recommendations to improve
airport security, one of which included establishing a system for profiling
passengers. But the FAA chose not to comply, because of inevitable fears
that profiling on the basis of ethnicity and national origin would run into
legal grounds that would violate civil liberties. Another recommendation
from the report emphasized the need for interagency
cooperation-specifically, the sharing of information among the Central
Intelligence Agency, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the Immigration
and Naturalization Service, and the Federal Aviation Administration-on
suspected terrorists. Tragically, the findings were never implemented by the
agencies involved.
On August 7, 1998, truck bombs exploded at the U.S. embassies in Nairobi,
Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania. Two hundred and twenty-four people were
killed, twelve of them Americans. More than five thousand were injured.
President Clinton responded, "We will use all the means at our disposal to
bring those responsible to justice, no matter what or how long it takes. . .
. We are determined to get answers and justice."
It was crystal clear that these attacks were tied to bin Laden. On August
20, the president ordered a retaliatory strike. Five U.S. warships in the
Arabian Sea fired sixty Tomahawk cruise missiles at four suspected terrorist
camps in Afghanistan known to be used by bin Laden and his senior staff.
From the Red Sea, two Navy warships fired another twenty missiles at the
Al-Shifa pharmaceutical plant, in Sudan, suspected of manufacturing chemical
weapons.
The attack on bin Laden failed. He escaped the missiles and was able to
enjoy his safety as a guest of Afghanistan's Taliban government. The success
of the attack on the pharmaceutical factory was less clear. Intelligence
officials had provided evidence that the plant could have been used for the
development of VX nerve gas. At best, the strikes were a message; at worst,
they were ineffective and insignificant.
In the wake of the retaliatory strikes, Secretary of State Madeleine
Albright noted, "I think it's important for the American people to
understand that we are involved in a long-term struggle. This is,
unfortunately, the war of the future." But it was obvious to me that the
Clinton administration went right back to business as usual; there was no
follow-up, let alone any "war on terror."
Two years later, on October 12, 2000, the final act of terrorism during the
Clinton presidency occurred. Seventeen American sailors were killed and
thirty-nine wounded off the coast of Yemen when terrorists floated a
bomb-laden boat to the edge of the USS Cole and detonated it. Clinton's
response was muted. He called the attack "a despicable and cowardly act" and
added, "We will find out who was responsible and hold them accountable." As
in the embassy bombings, investigators quickly linked responsibility to bin
Laden and his network, yet nothing more substantial was done.
In his eight years in office, President Clinton's military response to the
terrorist threats was negligible and did nothing to seriously address the
problem, instead following a de facto course of drift, which allowed the
terrorist network to grow in size and strength. The problem within the
administration was, again, a complete and total blindness to the proper use
of the military. Terrorism was, as I've said, treated as a law enforcement
issue, and in that context, as a budgetary issue, it was addressed.
President Clinton tripled the budget for counterterrorism and established a
cross-agency counterterrorism center. Terrorism "was absolutely a top
priority for the Clinton administration. Not a day went by that we did not
focus on this, and it was high on the president's list, too," claimed former
national security advisor Sandy Berger. Maybe, but President Clinton never
began, much less finished, a war on terrorism, because he never thought in
terms of prosecuting a military campaign against terrorism, and he
underestimated the rapidly evolving threat until it was too late.
As ever with President Clinton, it was domestic politics that "wagged the
dog." He did not want a war against terrorism as a focal point in his new
administration, so he downplayed the first World Trade Center bombing.
Later, the focal points were reelection or scandal management. Never in my
experience at the Clinton White House were national security and a
systematic campaign against terrorism a Clinton administration priority.
And as an officer, I was shocked, because I had assumed that there was not a
higher responsibility or priority for the commander in chief than the
security of the nation. President Clinton proved my assumption was
completely wrong.
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=16961
Pookie
"Joseph Welch" <seattled...@freewebspace.com> wrote in message
news:BekNg.19683$0b7....@fe04.buzzardnews.com...
How Bill Clinton Compromised America's National Security
President Clinton responded, "We will use all the means at our disposal to
bring those responsible to justice, no matter what or how long it takes. . .
. We are determined to get answers and justice."
It was crystal clear that these attacks were tied to bin Laden. On August
Pookie
"abracadabra" <ab...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3okNg.9150$Qg....@southeast.rr.com...
How Bill Clinton Compromised America's National Security
President Clinton responded, "We will use all the means at our disposal to
bring those responsible to justice, no matter what or how long it takes. . .
. We are determined to get answers and justice."
It was crystal clear that these attacks were tied to bin Laden. On August
Pookie
"Lloyd King" <lloy...@kinglloydcom.com> wrote in message
news:12gblnr...@corp.supernews.com...
How Bill Clinton Compromised America's National Security
President Clinton responded, "We will use all the means at our disposal to
bring those responsible to justice, no matter what or how long it takes. . .
. We are determined to get answers and justice."
It was crystal clear that these attacks were tied to bin Laden. On August
ffr...@mailandnews.com
abracadabra wrote:
> "Pookie" <pooki...@optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:XpjNg.32$_K1...@newsfe11.lga...
> > September 11, 2006, 8:15 a.m.
> >
> > The Facts About Clinton and Terrorism
> > You don't need a movie to see his failures.
>
> 1st WTC bombing - all the culprits are rotting in jail
> OK City bombing - culprit caught, tried and executed
> Atlanta bombings - culprit caught
>
Oh Yeah! If Clinton was so good then why didn't he invade any
countries? After the 1993 bombing at the WTC he should have invaded
Iraq or Iran or Cuba or some place to show the world the US won't take
it laying down.
Clinton didn't understand like Pres Bush does that you can't win the
War on Terror by being on the defensive. The only way to win is by
taking the war to the enemy by being on the offensive.
Pres Bush invaded and liberated two countries in response to the attack
of 9/11/2001. Clinton didn't invade even ONE country because of the
1993 attack. That's the Difference.
maxi...@netzoola.com
ffra clinton should have invaded australia after the cole bombing,
because they had nothing to do with it, just like iraq had nothing to
do with 911.
BC
wingers seem to be out in force today and reaching
up extra deep and flinging extra hard. Hmmm...I
wonder why....
But not matter: it's time for "Reality Bitch-Slap" time!:
Who created al-Qaeda:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/yemen/Story/0,2763,209260,00.html
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article1245.htm
(Note the dates on the articles)
And who really f*cked up big time in doing his job, which
was only a sign of things to come:
http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB147/index.htm
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/03/24/911.commission
http://www.globalpolicy.org/wtc/analysis/2004/0414warnings.htm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/september11/story/0,,716529,00.html
http://foi.missouri.edu/classdeclass/911reportcites.html
http://www.slate.com/id/2098861
Hope this clarifies
-BC
Amanda Williams
news:XpjNg.32$_K1...@newsfe11.lga:
> September 11, 2006, 8:15 a.m.
>
> The Facts About Clinton and Terrorism
> You don't need a movie to see his failures.
>
> By Byron York
>
>
[... complete debunked drool zapped ...]
>
>
> http://article.nationalreview.com/print/?
q=NzhjODk1ODg4M2NiODU4Yzc3YWE1
> OTA1MDNmYWQ5M2Y
BAWAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH...
York wouldn't recognize a "fact" if it walked up and bit him on his
lying bought-and-paid-for illiterate rightard ass...
But they just can't stand it... bubba is respected world-wide and still
twice as popular as their miserable lying little faux presidunce
georgie... that is what is behind all this... rotfl...
Failure is georgie's middle name, the moronic little asshole has fucked-
up EVERYTHING he has touched and they know it, they can't boast about
georgie's "accomplishments" because there aren't any, so all they are
left with is to screech "CLINTON" like the ridiculous morons they are.
Funny as hell...
--
AW
<small but dangerous>
Amanda Williams
>
> "bushhelpscorporationsdestroyamerica"
> <bushhelpsc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1158006599....@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> FifthColumnDemocrats wrote:
>>> Democrats are too stupid to get it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> liberals cant stop lying and distorting the truth, its in their
>>> nature.
>>
>> ABC is being sued by no less than 5 sources so far, their work of
>> fiction is joke and right wingers are a bigger joke, nice propaganda
>> film for the right, but they have also broken election rules by
>> running a falsehood so close to an election, it will be awesome when
>> they are sued and ridiculed by all. Right wingers are so Gullible and
>> Stupid, that is what bush is counting on and he is never
>> dissappointed.
>>
>> Republicans are too stupid to Understand what is happening to them
>> and their country.
>
> How Bill Clinton Compromised America's National Security
>
> by Buzz Patterson
> Posted Sep 11, 2006
>
> An excerpt from "Dereliction of Duty: The Eyewitness Account of How
> Bill Clinton Compromised America's National Security."
>
[... made-up shit deleted ...]
>
> http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=16961
"eyewitness account" rotfl.. you mean scaife funded bullshit...
Yeah old buzz claimed to have "eyewitnessed" an account of Bubba in the
oval office while bubba was actually in Japan... then he claimed to have
"eyewitnessed" a conversation between John Major the then British PM and
Bubba, a conversation the Brits say NEVER took place
Pretty amazing that eh? he is some "eyewitnesser" is old buzz... rotfl..
I figured the lying asshole would be out trying to hawk that POS book on
the back of the ABC "movie" , it didn't exactly fly off the shelves
mainly because it was a pile of illiterate made-up crap.
But why do you desperate repugs keep posting all this old tired,
million-times debunked made-up shit?
Yeah I know you don't WANT to talk about little georgie, I can
understand that but fer christs sake get some NEW made-up bullshit
before you bore everybody to death...
Kyle Daulton
>
> The Facts About Clinton and Terrorism
> You don't need a movie to see his failures.
>
> By Byron York
LOL!
President (Clinton) wants Senate to hurry with new anti-terrorism laws
http://www.cnn.com/US/9607/30/clinton.terrorism/
The Clinton administration
a.. sent legislation to Congress to TIGHTEN AIRPORT SECURITY. (Remember,
this is before 911) The legislation was defeated by the Republicans because
of opposition from the airlines.
a.. sent legislation to Congress to allow for BETTER TRACKING OF TERRORIST
FUNDING. It was defeated by Republicans in the Senate because of opposition
from banking interests.
a.. sent legislation to Congress to add tagents to explosives, to allow for
BETTER TRACKING OF EXPLOSIVES USED BY TERRORISTS. It was defeated by the
Republicans because of opposition from the NRA. When Republicans couldn't
prevent executive action, President Clinton:
a.. Developed the nation's first anti-terrorism policy, and appointed first
national coordinator.
a.. Stopped cold the planned attack to blow up 12 U.S. jetliners
simultaneously.
a.. Stopped cold the planned attack to blow up UN Headquarters.
a.. Stopped cold the planned attack to blow up FBI Headquarters.
a.. Stopped cold the planned attack to blow up the Israeli Embassy in
Washington.
a.. Stopped cold the planned attack to blow up Boston airport.
a.. Stopped cold the planned attack to blow up Lincoln and Holland Tunnels
in NY.
a.. Stopped cold the planned attack to blow up the George Washington Bridge.
a.. Stopped cold the planned attack to blow up the US Embassy in Albania.
a.. Tried to kill Osama bin Laden and disrupt Al Qaeda through preemptive
strikes (efforts denounced by the G.O.P.).
a.. Brought perpetrators of first World Trade Center bombing and CIA
killings to justice.
a.. Did not blame Bush I administration for first World Trade Center bombing
even though it occurred 38 days after they had left office. Instead, worked
hard, even obsessively -- and successfully -- to stop future terrorist
attacks.
a.. Named the Hart-Rudman commission to report on nature of terrorist
threats and major steps to be taken to combat terrorism.
a.. Tripled the budget of the FBI for counterterrorism and doubled overall
funding for counterterrorism.
a.. Detected and destroyed cells of Al Qaeda in over 20 countries
a.. Created a national stockpile of drugs and vaccines including 40 million
doses of smallpox vaccine.
a.. Robert Oakley, Reagan Counterterrorism Czar says of Clinton's efforts
"Overall, I give them very high marks" and "The only major criticism I have
is the obsession with Osama"
a.. Paul Bremer, Bush's Administrator of Iraq disagrees slightly with Robert
Oakley saying he believed the Clinton Administration had "correctly focused
on bin Laden. "
a.. Barton Gellman of the Washington Post put it best, "By any measure
available, Clinton left office having given greater priority to terrorism
than any president before him" and was the "first administration to
undertake a systematic anti-terrorist effort."
--
September 1996: Republicans in Congress refuse all of Clinton's
requested counterterrorism spending. Orrin Hatch (R-UT): "The
administration would be wise to utilize the resources Congress has
already provided before it requests additional funding."
Kyle Daulton
Kyle Daulton
>
> "abracadabra" <ab...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3okNg.9150$Qg....@southeast.rr.com...
>>
>> "Pookie" <pooki...@optonline.net> wrote in message
>> news:XpjNg.32$_K1...@newsfe11.lga...
>>> September 11, 2006, 8:15 a.m.
>>>
>>> The Facts About Clinton and Terrorism
>>> You don't need a movie to see his failures.
>>
>> 1st WTC bombing - all the culprits are rotting in jail
>> OK City bombing - culprit caught, tried and executed
>> Atlanta bombings - culprit caught
>>
>> 911?
>> Where's Osama?
>> You don't need a movie to see Bush's failures, but you'd need a
>> microscope to find Byron York's brain.
>
> How Bill Clinton Compromised America's National Security
>
> by Buzz Patterson
> Posted Sep 11, 2006
>
mark
"Pookie" <pooki...@optonline.net> wrote:
> The Facts About Clinton and Terrorism
> You don't need a movie to see his failures.
Yes, we can see his failures, but we're living (and dying) with bush's.
~~~
łIt is easier for the world to accept a simple lie than
a complex truth." - Alexis de Tocqueville
Joseph Welch
Clinton record on terorrism:
3.Expand a pre-trial detention.
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Espionage Legislation:
Economic and Industrial Espionage:
Japanese Commercial Intelligence Gathering
Uniform Trade Secrets Act
Terrorism Legislation:
National Security Legislation:
Law Enforcement Legislation:
The United States Code
Information Protection Legislation:
Encryption Legislation:
Miscellaneous Security Legislation:
Bush record on terorrism:
--
Joseph Welch
The Clinton administration
a.. sent legislation to Congress to TIGHTEN AIRPORT SECURITY. (Remember,
this is before 911) The legislation was defeated by the Republicans because
of opposition from the airlines.
a.. sent legislation to Congress to allow for BETTER TRACKING OF TERRORIST
FUNDING. It was defeated by Republicans in the Senate because of opposition
from banking interests.
a.. sent legislation to Congress to add tagents to explosives, to allow for
BETTER TRACKING OF EXPLOSIVES USED BY TERRORISTS. It was defeated by the
Republicans because of opposition from the NRA. When Republicans couldn't
prevent executive action, President Clinton:
a.. Developed the nation's first anti-terrorism policy, and appointed first
national coordinator.
a.. Stopped cold the planned attack to blow up 12 U.S. jetliners
simultaneously.
a.. Stopped cold the planned attack to blow up UN Headquarters.
a.. Stopped cold the planned attack to blow up FBI Headquarters.
a.. Stopped cold the planned attack to blow up the Israeli Embassy in
Washington.
a.. Stopped cold the planned attack to blow up Boston airport.
a.. Stopped cold the planned attack to blow up Lincoln and Holland Tunnels
in NY.
a.. Stopped cold the planned attack to blow up the George Washington Bridge.
a.. Stopped cold the planned attack to blow up the US Embassy in Albania.
a.. Tried to kill Osama bin Laden and disrupt Al Qaeda through preemptive
strikes (efforts denounced by the G.O.P.).
a.. Brought perpetrators of first World Trade Center bombing and CIA
killings to justice.
a.. Did not blame Bush I administration for first World Trade Center bombing
even though it occurred 38 days after they had left office. Instead, worked
hard, even obsessively -- and successfully -- to stop future terrorist
attacks.
a.. Named the Hart-Rudman commission to report on nature of terrorist
threats and major steps to be taken to combat terrorism.
a.. Tripled the budget of the FBI for counterterrorism and doubled overall
funding for counterterrorism.
a.. Detected and destroyed cells of Al Qaeda in over 20 countries
a.. Created a national stockpile of drugs and vaccines including 40 million
doses of smallpox vaccine.
a.. Robert Oakley, Reagan Counterterrorism Czar says of Clinton's efforts
"Overall, I give them very high marks" and "The only major criticism I have
is the obsession with Osama"
a.. Paul Bremer, Bush's Administrator of Iraq disagrees slightly with Robert
Oakley saying he believed the Clinton Administration had "correctly focused
on bin Laden. "
a.. Barton Gellman of the Washington Post put it best, "By any measure
available, Clinton left office having given greater priority to terrorism
than any president before him" and was the "first administration to
undertake a systematic anti-terrorist effort."
On February 10, 1995, a counterterrorism bill drafted by the Clinton
Administration (Omnibus Counterterrorism Act of 1995) was introduced in the
Senate as S. 390 and in the House of Representatives as H.R. 896.
1.Authorized the Justice Department to choose crimes to investigate and
prosecute based on political beliefs and associations;
2.Repeal the ancient provision barring the U.S. military from civilian law
enforcement.
3.Expand a pre-trial detention.
4.Loosen the rules governing federal wiretaps.
5.Establish courts that would use secret evidence to order the deportation
of persons convicted of crimes.
6.Permit permanent detention by the Attorney General of aliens convicted or
suspected of crimes pending court.
7.Give the President unreviewable power to criminalize fund-raising for
unlawful activities associated terrorist causes.
8.Renege on the Administration's approval in the last Congress of a
provision to insure the FBI will investigate terrorist activities.
9.Resurrect the discredited ideological visa denial provisions of the
McCarran Walter Act.
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The Clinton administration fired 79 cruise missiles at bin Laden's camps in
Afghanistan and at a pharmaceutical plant in Sudan in August 1998, less than
two weeks after terrorist bombs killed more than 200 people at the U.S.
2000 The Washington Post
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million in fines Friday for his role in the 1993 bombing of the World Trade
Center.
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http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/bomb170.htm
far-reaching terrorist campaign to kill Americans, including the bombings of
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Terrorism Facts:
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(http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Nov1998/t11101998_t1110asd.html)
Taggants value disputed
Hatch blasts 'phony' issues
http://www.cnn.com/US/9607/30/clinton.terrorism/
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Espionage Legislation:
Economic and Industrial Espionage:
Japanese Commercial Intelligence Gathering
Uniform Trade Secrets Act
Terrorism Legislation:
National Security Legislation:
Law Enforcement Legislation:
The United States Code
Information Protection Legislation:
Encryption Legislation:
Miscellaneous Security Legislation:
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Joseph Welch
<ffr...@mailandnews.com> wrote in message
news:1158013378....@d34g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> Oh Yeah! If Clinton was so good then why didn't he invade any
> countries? After the 1993 bombing at the WTC he should have invaded
> Iraq or Iran or Cuba or some place to show the world the US won't take
> it laying down.
How about Mexico?
George Grapman
airport security funding.
May,2001-Aschroft puts out a memo listing his priorities. Terrorism is
not on the list. He had already taken steps,however, to cover a bare
breasted statue in the DOJ building.
Sept.10,2001- Ashcroft submits a budget the ignores and FBI request
for more counter-terrorism programs.
lab~rat >:-)
<bushhelpsc...@yahoo.com> puked:
>
>FifthColumnDemocrats wrote:
>> Democrats are too stupid to get it.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> liberals cant stop lying and distorting the truth, its in their nature.
>
>ABC is being sued by no less than 5 sources so far, their work of
>fiction is joke and right wingers are a bigger joke, nice propaganda
>film for the right, but they have also broken election rules by running
>a falsehood so close to an election,
Oh for christ sake, that is the biggest bunch of bullshit I've heard
in a long time. Good luck prosecuting that one.
And besides, I thought you geniuses had the election locked up because
everyone's leaving the Republican party. LOL
You people are fucked and trying dumbass lawsuits like this one is
only gonna make the American people hate you more than they already
do...
--
lab~rat >:-)
Do you want polite or do you want sincere?
lab~rat >:-)
<seattled...@freewebspace.com> puked:
>
>"Pookie" <pooki...@optonline.net> wrote in message
>news:XpjNg.32$_K1...@newsfe11.lga...
>
>> The Facts About Clinton and Terrorism
>
>
>Clinton record on terorrism:
You realize that repeatedly flooding numerous newsgroups with the same
message is considered spam? I think we all got the message you were
trying to put out there, now for the sake of the handful of us that
have dialup, could you pare your obnoxiously long message down to
maybe three lines? You should be able to cover the truth in that...
abracadabra
>> "Pookie" <pooki...@optonline.net> wrote in message
>> news:XpjNg.32$_K1...@newsfe11.lga...
>> > September 11, 2006, 8:15 a.m.
>> >
>> > The Facts About Clinton and Terrorism
>> > You don't need a movie to see his failures.
>>
>> 1st WTC bombing - all the culprits are rotting in jail
>> OK City bombing - culprit caught, tried and executed
>> Atlanta bombings - culprit caught
>>
>
> Oh Yeah! If Clinton was so good then why didn't he invade any
> countries? After the 1993 bombing at the WTC he should have invaded
> Iraq or Iran or Cuba or some place to show the world the US won't take
> it laying down.
I would have nominated France. They're real cooperative with occupying
armies.
> Clinton didn't understand like Pres Bush does that you can't win the
> War on Terror by being on the defensive. The only way to win is by
> taking the war to the enemy by being on the offensive.
>
> Pres Bush invaded and liberated two countries in response to the attack
> of 9/11/2001. Clinton didn't invade even ONE country because of the
> 1993 attack. That's the Difference.
It does seem that every new President has to prove himself by invading
somewhere. Perhaps we need to create one specific country we can invade
every 4 years? Maybe we can set up something with Canada where we invade
Saskatchewan over and over again!
abracadabra
<maxi...@netzoola.com> wrote in message
news:1158013830....@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
But we still owe punishment them for the Crocodile Dundee 2!
Dion
While on the subject of movies, 911 and terrorism... *Sorry, Haters* is a
must rent.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0425600/
--
Dion
PEACE - Back by popular demand
Joseph Welch
"lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net> wrote in message
news:bs9dg2h7rbchn9071...@4ax.com...
> You realize that repeatedly flooding numerous newsgroups with the same
> message is considered spam?
I'm responding to the man's point. It's on-topic, and relevant. The answer
doesn't change just because the name of the issuer of the bullshit does.
> I think we all got the message you were trying to put out there
No, I don't think you have, or you fucking liars wouldn't keep making the
idiotic claim that "Clinton did nothing to combat terorrism".
dk
If Bush has been so great for the economy why in the hell does anyone
still have dial-up? Does that really still exist given Bush's Tax Cuts
to Americans? Oh wait! I forgot!!! Taxes actually went UP for the
poor and middle class because they had to pay for schools, roads,
firemen, policemen, etc. after the Feds took away funding so that the
wealthiest 1% could be wealthier!!!!
lab~rat >:-)
<seattled...@freewebspace.com> puked:
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>"lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net> wrote in message
>news:bs9dg2h7rbchn9071...@4ax.com...
>
>> You realize that repeatedly flooding numerous newsgroups with the same
>> message is considered spam?
>
>I'm responding to the man's point. It's on-topic, and relevant. The answer
>doesn't change just because the name of the issuer of the bullshit does.
>
>> I think we all got the message you were trying to put out there
>
>No, I don't think you have, or you fucking liars wouldn't keep making the
>idiotic claim that "Clinton did nothing to combat terorrism".
Nothing is a relative term...
lab~rat >:-)
Where this computer is located, DSL isn't available. Sorry for
fucking up your ingenious theory.
Pookie
>
> "lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net> wrote in message
> news:bs9dg2h7rbchn9071...@4ax.com...
>
>> You realize that repeatedly flooding numerous newsgroups with the same
>> message is considered spam?
>
> I'm responding to the man's point. It's on-topic, and relevant. The
> answer doesn't change just because the name of the issuer of the bullshit
> does.
>
>> I think we all got the message you were trying to put out there
>
> No, I don't think you have, or you fucking liars wouldn't keep making the
> idiotic claim that "Clinton did nothing to combat terorrism".
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Lloyd King
Perhaps you would appear more reasonable if you were to say "Clinton did
*little* to combat terrorism." Then at least you wouldn't come off as a
frothing wacko. You could certainly make an argument that, in hindsight,
Clinton should have done more.
But then you're still stuck with the fact that the Republicans screeched and
howled at everything Clitnon DID do, and fought him every step of the way.
They wanted him to do LESS. And you're stuck with the fact that when Bush
took office, he DID do less - he cancelled almost all the Clinton programs
that were aimed at fighting terrorists, demoted the anti-terrorism personnel
and ignored the whole issue.
So however bad Clinton might have been on this issue, the Republicans were
worse.
Joseph Welch
>>No, I don't think you have, or you fucking liars wouldn't keep making the
>>idiotic claim that "Clinton did nothing to combat terorrism".
>
> Nothing is a relative term...
Only if by "relative" you are claiming that "nothing" can mean "a hell of a
lot".
Damn, you right-wingers are some stupid motherfuckers.
I hope that wasn' t too many lines for your lame dialup account, you cheap
ass.
lab~rat >:-)
<lloy...@kinglloydcom.com> puked:
Do you see that you come across as an argumentative douchebag in this
thread? Only a 'frothing wacko' would politicize a post where someone
respectfully requests a poster to stop spamming.
READING IS FUNDAMENTAL
lab~rat >:-)
<seattled...@freewebspace.com> puked:
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>"lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net> wrote in message
>news:mrsdg21gt0b28i4o6...@4ax.com...
>
>>>No, I don't think you have, or you fucking liars wouldn't keep making the
>>>idiotic claim that "Clinton did nothing to combat terorrism".
>>
>> Nothing is a relative term...
>
>Only if by "relative" you are claiming that "nothing" can mean "a hell of a
>lot".
>
>Damn, you right-wingers are some stupid motherfuckers.
>
>I hope that wasn' t too many lines for your lame dialup account, you cheap
>ass.
It gives me great satisfaction to know that I can type such a
minimalistic phrase, yet make you whine like a little bitch.
When are you going to learn that NOT ONE FREAKING THING you type on
usenet is gonna change one person's mind or impress anyone in any way?
The problem with you and people of your ilk is that you take all of
this way too seriously. Keep it up and you're gonna have a heart
attack and die in front of your computer with no friends online or in
real life...