I'm real. I'm in California. Greetings Charles Bishop!
Please say something about yourself...
-- Tian
http://tian.greens.org Latest change: Added writeup on the Green Party Convention in Baltimore.
The Green pin I got from a Kiwi there is on a Kentucky quarter.
On Monday, August 27, 2012 7:40:57 PM UTC-5, tian wrote:
> On 08/27/2012 03:43 PM, Charles Bishop wrote: > Now there are 4, or 3, or 2. > I'm real. I'm in California. Greetings Charles Bishop! Please say something about yourself... -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Latest change: Added writeup on the Green Party Convention in Baltimore. The Green pin I got from a Kiwi there is on a Kentucky quarter.
Greetings, Charles Bishop. There are 3. Mudge knows little to nothing about Hofstadter, but he does submit good jokes now and then. Tian is our resident bike-rider and Green Party activist who puts coins in piggy banks when he encounters spam. I am a long time Hof afficienado, starting with GEB back in 1980and continuing with all his subsequent major books. We have been at 3 now for what seems like years. We're desperate for anyone else.
On Monday, August 27, 2012 9:48:33 PM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> On Monday, August 27, 2012 7:40:57 PM UTC-5, tian wrote: > On 08/27/2012 03:43 PM, Charles Bishop wrote: > Now there are 4, or 3, or 2. > I'm real. I'm in California. Greetings Charles Bishop! Please say something about yourself... -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Latest change: Added writeup on the Green Party Convention in Baltimore. The Green pin I got from a Kiwi there is on a Kentucky quarter. Greetings, Charles Bishop. There are 3. Mudge knows little to nothing about Hofstadter, but he does submit good jokes now and then. Tian is our resident bike-rider and Green Party activist who puts coins in piggy banks when he encounters spam. I am a long time Hof afficienado, starting with GEB back in 1980and continuing with all his subsequent major books. We have been at 3 now for what seems like years. We're desperate for anyone else.
PS Tian knows more about Hof than I gave him credit for. Mudge ataully doubts Hof's existence.
> On Monday, August 27, 2012 9:48:33 PM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
>> On Monday, August 27, 2012 7:40:57 PM UTC-5, tian wrote: > On >> 08/27/2012 03:43 PM, Charles Bishop wrote: > Now there are 4, or 3, or >> 2. > I'm real. I'm in California. Greetings Charles Bishop! Please say >> something about yourself... -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Latest >> change: Added writeup on the Green Party Convention in Baltimore. The >> Green pin I got from a Kiwi there is on a Kentucky quarter. Greetings, >> Charles Bishop. There are 3. Mudge knows little to nothing about >> Hofstadter, but he does submit good jokes now and then. Tian is our >> resident bike-rider and Green Party activist who puts coins in piggy >> banks when he encounters spam. I am a long time Hof afficienado, >> starting with GEB back in 1980and continuing with all his subsequent >> major books. We have been at 3 now for what seems like years. We're >> desperate for anyone else.
> PS Tian knows more about Hof than I gave him credit for. Mudge > ataully doubts Hof's existence.
I don't doubt his existence - but I wonder about his sanity !
-- The Canadian Curmudgeon (in Calgary)
Fix the biosphere - eliminate people
In article <9d1631b7-6586-4605-b53f-ddcfb60b7b9d@googlegroups.com>, Don
Stockbauer <donstockba...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Monday, August 27, 2012 7:40:57 PM UTC-5, tian wrote:
>> On 08/27/2012 03:43 PM, Charles Bishop wrote: > Now there are 4, or 3, or=
> 2. > I'm real. I'm in California. Greetings Charles Bishop! Please say som=
>ething about yourself... -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Latest change: Adde=
>d writeup on the Green Party Convention in Baltimore. The Green pin I got f=
>rom a Kiwi there is on a Kentucky quarter.
>Greetings, Charles Bishop. There are 3. Mudge knows little to nothing abo=
>ut Hofstadter, but he does submit good jokes now and then. Tian is our res=
>ident bike-rider and Green Party activist who puts coins in piggy banks whe=
>n he encounters spam. I am a long time Hof afficienado, starting with GEB =
>back in 1980and continuing with all his subsequent major books. We have be=
>en at 3 now for what seems like years. We're desperate for anyone else.
I'm sorry to say I probably won't be able to contribute much. I too read
GED back in the day and understood maybe half of it, but it was the book
to read. Was this a thriving group back in the palmy days of USENET? It's
sad to see what some groups have come to, either moribund or filled with
trolls.
>> On 08/27/2012 03:43 PM, Charles Bishop wrote:
>>> Now there are 4, or 3, or 2.
>> I'm real. I'm in California. Greetings Charles Bishop!
>> Please say something about yourself...
> We know you're real.
> What we question - is Calfornia real ?
Ummm... Depends what you mean by real. Please explain.
-- Tian
http://tian.greens.org Latest change: Added an update on the current state of my garden.
The Green pin I got from a Kiwi there is on a Kentucky quarter.
> In article<k1h41p02...@enews4.newsguy.com>, tian
> <tnhar...@aceweb.com.nospam> wrote:
>> On 08/27/2012 03:43 PM, Charles Bishop wrote:
>>> Now there are 4, or 3, or 2.
>> I'm real. I'm in California. Greetings Charles Bishop!
>> Please say something about yourself...
> I'm in CA too. I think I've seen you in, umm a DNA group.
Yeah, I do that one to. Another author I enjoyed a lot.
-- Tian
http://tian.greens.org Latest change: Added an update on the current state of my garden.
The Green pin I got from a Kiwi in Baltimore is on a Kentucky quarter.
On Tuesday, August 28, 2012 4:29:30 PM UTC-5, tian wrote:
> On 08/28/2012 02:43 PM, Charles Bishop wrote: > In article<k1h41p02...@enews4.newsguy.com>, tian > <tnhar...@aceweb.com.nospam> wrote: > >> On 08/27/2012 03:43 PM, Charles Bishop wrote: >>> Now there are 4, or 3, or 2. >>> >> I'm real. I'm in California. Greetings Charles Bishop! >> Please say something about yourself... > > I'm in CA too. I think I've seen you in, umm a DNA group. > Yeah, I do that one to. Another author I enjoyed a lot. -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Latest change: Added an update on the current state of my garden. The Green pin I got from a Kiwi in Baltimore is on a Kentucky quarter.
On Tuesday, August 28, 2012 3:48:08 PM UTC-5, Charles Bishop wrote:
> In article <9d1631b7-6586-4605-b53f-ddcfb60b7b9d@googlegroups.com>, Don Stockbauer <donstockba...@hotmail.com> wrote: >On Monday, August 27, 2012 7:40:57 PM UTC-5, tian wrote: >> On 08/27/2012 03:43 PM, Charles Bishop wrote: > Now there are 4, or 3, or= > 2. > I'm real. I'm in California. Greetings Charles Bishop! Please say som= >ething about yourself... -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Latest change: Adde= >d writeup on the Green Party Convention in Baltimore. The Green pin I got f= >rom a Kiwi there is on a Kentucky quarter. > >Greetings, Charles Bishop. There are 3. Mudge knows little to nothing abo= >ut Hofstadter, but he does submit good jokes now and then. Tian is our res= >ident bike-rider and Green Party activist who puts coins in piggy banks whe= >n he encounters spam. I am a long time Hof afficienado, starting with GEB = >back in 1980and continuing with all his subsequent major books. We have be= >en at 3 now for what seems like years. We're desperate for anyone else. I'm sorry to say I probably won't be able to contribute much. I too read GED back in the day and understood maybe half of it, but it was the book to read. Was this a thriving group back in the palmy days of USENET? It's sad to see what some groups have come to, either moribund or filled with trolls. -- charles
Well, that's ok if you cant contribute much. Way back like in the late 90's there were people here that were quite Hofstadter knowledgable. I first came here in like 2003? and it was down to some people who discussed computers but not necessarily Hof. Tian showed up shortly after that with mysterious "I drop a 1952 D nickle in my piggy bank" quotes which took some time to decipher. And then we have Mudge. He wandered in here and had no idea who Hof is, and still doesn't. But he seems harmless enough, he's elderly and seems to have retained something of his wits (a lot, really) so to round out the "3 persons in one fan" configuration he stayed around. Sometimes I think I ran everybody off but when I got here it really wasn't a Hof fan group anymore.
> On Tuesday, August 28, 2012 4:29:30 PM UTC-5, tian wrote:
>> On 08/28/2012 02:43 PM, Charles Bishop wrote:> In article<k1h41p02...@enews4.newsguy.com>, tian> <tnhar...@aceweb.com.nospam> wrote:> >> On 08/27/2012 03:43 PM, Charles Bishop wrote:>>> Now there are 4, or 3, or 2.>>> >> I'm real. I'm in California. Greetings Charles Bishop!>> Please say something about yourself...> > I'm in CA too. I think I've seen you in, umm a DNA group.> Yeah, I do that one to. Another author I enjoyed a lot. -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Latest change: Added an update on the current state of my garden. The Green pin I got from a Kiwi in Baltimore is on a Kentucky quarter.
> So---you've been seeing other groups????? :-(
That one is a froup.
-- Tian
http://tian.greens.org Latest change: Added an update on the current state of my garden.
The Green pin I got from a Kiwi in Baltimore is on a Kentucky quarter.
On 2012-08-28 21:01:29 -0600, Don Stockbauer said:
> And then we have Mudge. He wandered in here and had no idea who Hof > is, and still doesn't. But he seems harmless enough, he's elderly and > seems to have retained something of his wits (a lot, really) so to > round out the "3 persons in one fan" configuration he stayed around.
Really, m'dear Don, I have googloided Hoff, read his thingy in Wikiwoo, and done some research, so I do know about Hof (or at least as much as I care to) so I am not totally non-compus relative to Hofstadter - sheesh !! And, I amn't a troll either ammi ????
Yayyyy, Mitt !
-- The Canadian Curmudgeon (in Calgary)
Fix the biosphere - eliminate people
On Wednesday, August 29, 2012 11:30:31 AM UTC-5, Mudge wrote:
> On 2012-08-28 21:01:29 -0600, Don Stockbauer said: > > And then we have Mudge. He wandered in here and had no idea who Hof > is, and still doesn't. But he seems harmless enough, he's elderly and > seems to have retained something of his wits (a lot, really) so to > round out the "3 persons in one fan" configuration he stayed around. Really, m'dear Don, I have googloided Hoff, read his thingy in Wikiwoo, and done some research, so I do know about Hof (or at least as much as I care to) so I am not totally non-compus relative to Hofstadter - sheesh !! And, I amn't a troll either ammi ???? Yayyyy, Mitt ! -- The Canadian Curmudgeon (in Calgary) Fix the biosphere - eliminate people
Now that you've done all that, you are a Hofstadter expert, knowing more about him than 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of the population. Way to go, Mudge. And by the way - why the "yay, Mitt" - you're Canaderian????????
> On 2012-08-28 21:01:29 -0600, Don Stockbauer said:
>> And then we have Mudge. He wandered in here and had no idea who Hof
>> is, and still doesn't. But he seems harmless enough, he's elderly and
>> seems to have retained something of his wits (a lot, really) so to
>> round out the "3 persons in one fan" configuration he stayed around.
> Really, m'dear Don, I have googloided Hoff, read his thingy in Wikiwoo,
> and done some research, so I do know about Hof (or at least as much as I
> care to) so I am not totally non-compus relative to Hofstadter - sheesh
> !! And, I amn't a troll either ammi ????
I loved browsing the pictures in Godel, Escher, and Bach. Totally worth doing, even if you can't be bothered to read the thing!
> Yayyyy, Mitt !
Yay Jill Stein!
-- Tian
http://tian.greens.org Latest change: Added an update on the current state of my garden.
The Green pin I got from a Kiwi in Baltimore is on a Tennessee quarter.
On Thursday, August 30, 2012 5:46:54 PM UTC-5, tian wrote:
> On 08/29/2012 09:30 AM, Mudge wrote: > On 2012-08-28 21:01:29 -0600, Don Stockbauer said: >> >> And then we have Mudge. He wandered in here and had no idea who Hof >> is, and still doesn't. But he seems harmless enough, he's elderly and >> seems to have retained something of his wits (a lot, really) so to >> round out the "3 persons in one fan" configuration he stayed around. > > Really, m'dear Don, I have googloided Hoff, read his thingy in Wikiwoo, > and done some research, so I do know about Hof (or at least as much as I > care to) so I am not totally non-compus relative to Hofstadter - sheesh > !! And, I amn't a troll either ammi ???? I loved browsing the pictures in Godel, Escher, and Bach. Totally worth doing, even if you can't be bothered to read the thing! > > Yayyyy, Mitt ! > Yay Jill Stein! -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Latest change: Added an update on the current state of my garden. The Green pin I got from a Kiwi in Baltimore is on a Tennessee quarter.
I like Hof's works, but here are sections of GEB I never read, especially the part on microbiology (or perhaps you'd call it his mathematical simulation of it) since I've never much cared for the subject. There are sections of it that I've read but didn't understand at the time. Now, with 32 years of life experience later I might do better with them. What I find myself doing with it nowadays is to remember how some subject relates to something someone has written and go back and quote that material to them. And we must remember that GEB is but one tome out of 5 or 6, with yet another coming someday.
The Green Party candidate for President of the United States.
-- Tian
http://tian.greens.org Latest change: Added an update on the current state of my garden.
The Green pin I got from a Kiwi in Baltimore is on an Ohio quarter.
On Saturday, September 1, 2012 3:46:11 PM UTC-5, Mudge wrote:
> On 2012-09-01 14:20:42 -0600, Don Stockbauer said: > Is that like a herd in the band is worth boo in the tush? As you like ! -- The Canadian Curmudgeon (in Calgary) Fix the biosphere - eliminate people
I don't like it. It's a punchline. The joke?
Oh, it has to do with a herd of cattle getting lose in a band which was playing, and marijuana suppositories, etc.
