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Just Plain Jack

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Aug 26, 2012, 1:02:48 PM8/26/12
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So what happened to him anyway?

MajorOz

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Aug 26, 2012, 3:59:57 PM8/26/12
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On Sunday, August 26, 2012 12:02:48 PM UTC-5, Just Plain Jack wrote:
> So what happened to him anyway?

Well...........

He hasn't been healthy for a few years, now.

And.....the trashing he got in the Putsch was a terrible blow, after all he had done for The Heinlein Society.

He has done pretty much what I would have done......watch he children do what children do: work very hard to out-pretentious each other, with no thought to all those that made it all possible.

tian

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Aug 27, 2012, 3:57:43 AM8/27/12
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This place sure quieted down when he went away. Glad to know it wasn't
a terminal problem yet. Hope he's having fun with whatever he's doing.

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Just Plain Jack

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Aug 27, 2012, 10:54:55 PM8/27/12
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Has he disappeared?

Michael Black

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Aug 28, 2012, 8:24:14 PM8/28/12
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On Mon, 27 Aug 2012, Just Plain Jack wrote:

> Has he disappeared?
>
No change since you asked 2 days ago.

Michael

Just Plain Jack

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Aug 29, 2012, 1:46:04 PM8/29/12
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Is he still around?

Michael Black

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Aug 29, 2012, 3:06:23 PM8/29/12
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On Wed, 29 Aug 2012, Just Plain Jack wrote:

> Is he still around?
>
Still no change since August 26th, and August 27th. The newsgroups are
not "write only" you ought to read them and then you'd have an answer.

Michael

tian

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Aug 30, 2012, 5:47:31 AM8/30/12
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What is this "read them"? Some kind of conspiracy theory mumbo jumbo?
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Michael Black

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Aug 31, 2012, 7:00:27 PM8/31/12
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On Thu, 30 Aug 2012, tian wrote:

> On 08/29/2012 12:06 PM, Michael Black wrote:
>> On Wed, 29 Aug 2012, Just Plain Jack wrote:
>>
>>> Is he still around?
>>>
>> Still no change since August 26th, and August 27th. The newsgroups are
>> not "write only" you ought to read them and then you'd have an answer.
>>
> What is this "read them"? Some kind of conspiracy theory mumbo jumbo?

I think I might be missing a joke here.

The poster posted three times with basically the same message, the first
time he got som answers before he asked a second time. So clearly he's
not reading the newsgroup, he thinks newsgroups are for writing only, as
in advertising, and he expects answers to magically appear in his mailbox.

Michael

bpral...@aol.com

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Aug 31, 2012, 10:16:01 PM8/31/12
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Mike Sheffield is the only person I know who might have had some
contact with him in the last couple of years. I've still got his
phone number and addressed, presuming he hasn't changed them -- but he
might have, as David is the one who has chopped off all contact. Cant
blame him -- don't criticize his choice of tactics.

tian

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Sep 1, 2012, 5:08:07 AM9/1/12
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I figure if he wanted to say something to us he can. He knows where the
bar is, so to speak.

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MajorOz

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Sep 3, 2012, 8:17:50 PM9/3/12
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Had dinner with him and wife in LA in June, 2010.

See his sis in Colorado Springs a couple times a year.

Love them both.

reilloc

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Sep 24, 2012, 11:51:53 AM9/24/12
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On 8/29/2012 12:46 PM, Just Plain Jack wrote:
> Is he still around?
>
David M. Silver, 68, a retired attorney, was a confidant of Virginia
Heinlein's in the final years of her life,
and spent many hours chatting with
her on the internet about Robert A.
Heinlein's works and legacy.
"When I was eleven in 1954,� Mr.
Silver said of his introduction to
Heinlein�s books, �bored tearless one
smoggy summer with the books in
the children's library in Los Angeles
that I was �allowed� to read, a librarian handed me a copy of Rocket Ship
Galileo, classified as a �juvenile,� for
ages twelve and above, told me to
take it home and ask permission
from my parents before reading it. I
did, and my dad gave me permission.
I heard him tell my mother it was the
first juvenile he'd ever looked at, or
heard of, that had a Jewish boy as
one of the principal characters. I read
it, loved it all (and could have cared
less that one of the boys was Jewish � that was only normal I
thought), and returned it to the
librarian the next day. She issued
me a �juvenile� card with a pass to
any adult science fiction as well,
and I then proceeded to read every
Heinlein, juvenile or not, in the
library within a week or two.
"I've never stopped reading Heinlein
since."
Mr. Silver became SecretaryTreasurer of THS in the early
months of its existence, and along
with Ginny Heinlein and founding
president William H. Patterson, Jr. ,
was one of those largely responsible for turning the new Society into
a long-term viable entity dedicated
to furthering the legacy of Robert A.
Heinlein.
In 2001, at the "MilPhilCon" Philadelphia Worldcon, Mr. Silver accepted
Robert Heinlein's "RetroHugo" for Best Novella, awarded to
"The Man Who Sold the Moon". Mr.
Silver succeeded Mr. Patterson as
President/Chairman of THS in September of 2003.
"Any time a member of your founding generation retires, it is a
milestone", said board member Geo
Rule. "David and his wife Andrea
gave generously of their time and
resources from the earliest days of
the Society, and we appreciate the
role they've played in allowing the
Society to celebrate its 10th anniversary this year."

Michael Stemper

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Sep 24, 2012, 12:58:24 PM9/24/12
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In article <k3pvit$enb$1...@dont-email.me>, reilloc <rei...@gmail.com> writes:
>On 8/29/2012 12:46 PM, Just Plain Jack wrote:

>> Is he still around?
>>
>David M. Silver, 68, a retired attorney, was a confidant of Virginia
>Heinlein's in the final years of her life,
>and spent many hours chatting with
>her on the internet about Robert A.
>Heinlein's works and legacy.

Does that mean he is or is not still around? What you posted sounds a
lot like an obituary, so I'd guess that the answer is "not".

--
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#include <Standard_Disclaimer>
Life's too important to take seriously.

reilloc

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Sep 24, 2012, 1:52:51 PM9/24/12
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On 9/24/2012 11:58 AM, Michael Stemper wrote:
> In article <k3pvit$enb$1...@dont-email.me>, reilloc <rei...@gmail.com> writes:
>> On 8/29/2012 12:46 PM, Just Plain Jack wrote:
>
>>> Is he still around?
>>>
>> David M. Silver, 68, a retired attorney, was a confidant of Virginia
>> Heinlein's in the final years of her life,
>> and spent many hours chatting with
>> her on the internet about Robert A.
>> Heinlein's works and legacy.
>
> Does that mean he is or is not still around? What you posted sounds a
> lot like an obituary, so I'd guess that the answer is "not".
>

I think he's still kicking.

LNC

deto...@gmail.com

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Sep 24, 2012, 3:59:10 PM9/24/12
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On Monday, September 24, 2012 12:58:24 PM UTC-4, Michael Stemper wrote:
<snip>
>
>
>
> Does that mean he is or is not still around? What you posted sounds a
>
> lot like an obituary, so I'd guess that the answer is "not".
>

It sounded more like an announcement that Mr. Silver has retired from being president of THS. Neither Google nor DuckDuckGo could confirm that one way or the other.

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Regards,
Dann

MajorOz

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Sep 24, 2012, 5:19:12 PM9/24/12
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On Monday, September 24, 2012 10:51:57 AM UTC-5, reilloc wrote:
> On 8/29/2012 12:46 PM, Just Plain Jack wrote:
>
> > Is he still around?
>
> >
>
> David M. Silver, 68, a retired attorney, was a confidant of Virginia
>
> Heinlein's in the final years of her life,
>
> and spent many hours chatting with
>
> her on the internet about Robert A.
>
> Heinlein's works and legacy.
>
> "When I was eleven in 1954,” Mr.
>
> Silver said of his introduction to
>
> Heinlein’s books, “bored tearless one
>
> smoggy summer with the books in
>
> the children's library in Los Angeles
>
> that I was ‘allowed’ to read, a librarian handed me a copy of Rocket Ship
>
> Galileo, classified as a ‘juvenile,’ for
>
> ages twelve and above, told me to
>
> take it home and ask permission
>
> from my parents before reading it. I
>
> did, and my dad gave me permission.
>
> I heard him tell my mother it was the
>
> first juvenile he'd ever looked at, or
>
> heard of, that had a Jewish boy as
>
> one of the principal characters. I read
>
> it, loved it all (and could have cared
>
> less that one of the boys was Jewish — that was only normal I
>
> thought), and returned it to the
>
> librarian the next day. She issued
>
> me a ‘juvenile’ card with a pass to
Thank you.......but you scared the shit out of me.

I thought it was going to end with 1943--2012

MajorOz

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Sep 24, 2012, 5:22:45 PM9/24/12
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On Monday, September 24, 2012 2:59:10 PM UTC-5, deto...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, September 24, 2012 12:58:24 PM UTC-4, Michael Stemper wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Does that mean he is or is not still around? What you posted sounds a
>
> >
>
> > lot like an obituary, so I'd guess that the answer is "not".
>
> >
>
>
>
> It sounded more like an announcement that Mr. Silver has retired from being president of THS.

"Retired" doesn't really describe it. Think Germany in 1933.

Mike Dworetsky

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Sep 25, 2012, 6:44:55 AM9/25/12
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Don't know about you, but it sure would have given David a momentary fright.
Didn't Mark Twain have a similar problem while on his travels in Europe?

--
Mike Dworetsky

(Remove pants sp*mbl*ck to reply)

tian

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Sep 26, 2012, 1:32:44 AM9/26/12
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Yeah, but I'm still waiting for Silver to say "rumors of my demise
have been blown out of proportion."

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MajorOz

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Sep 26, 2012, 8:41:00 PM9/26/12
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He just did, about two hours ago.

He called me, while we were eating out.

Had a nice long chat.

Docs have fixed the problem in the heart that made him so tired all the time.

He sounded GREAT on the phone.....much better than at our dinner, a couple years ago.

Been off cigarettes for almost two years, which for him is a BIG thing.

All in all, doing much better than he has in years.

And........LNC.....

I told him of your nice eulogy.....he appreciated it.

tian

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Sep 27, 2012, 4:22:12 AM9/27/12
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On 09/26/2012 05:41 PM, MajorOz wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 26, 2012 12:25:54 AM UTC-5, tian wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, but I'm still waiting for Silver to say "rumors of my demise
>>
>> have been blown out of proportion."
>>
>
> He just did, about two hours ago.
>
> He called me, while we were eating out.
>
> Had a nice long chat.
>
> Docs have fixed the problem in the heart that made him so tired all the time.
>
> He sounded GREAT on the phone.....much better than at our dinner, a couple years ago.
>
> Been off cigarettes for almost two years, which for him is a BIG thing.
>
> All in all, doing much better than he has in years.
>
> And........LNC.....
>
> I told him of your nice eulogy.....he appreciated it.

Thank you for that update!
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Tian
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gaeltach

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Sep 27, 2012, 7:15:43 AM9/27/12
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"tian" <tnha...@aceweb.com.nospam> wrote in message
news:k411s...@enews2.newsguy.com...
> On 09/26/2012 05:41 PM, MajorOz wrote:
>> On Wednesday, September 26, 2012 12:25:54 AM UTC-5, tian wrote:

Why am I seeing Tian's post, but not Major Oz's original post that is quoted
in Tian's? Anyone else have this?

Sean


Michael Stemper

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Sep 27, 2012, 8:45:24 AM9/27/12
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In article <4efdcdc4-3364-4f99...@googlegroups.com>, MajorOz <Maj...@centurytel.net> writes:
>On Wednesday, September 26, 2012 12:25:54 AM UTC-5, tian wrote:

>> Yeah, but I'm still waiting for Silver to say "rumors of my demise
>> have been blown out of proportion."

>He just did, about two hours ago.
>
>He called me, while we were eating out.

You interrupt sex to answer the phone?

Michael Stemper

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Sep 27, 2012, 8:47:12 AM9/27/12
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It's probably because he's posting from Google Groups and either you or
your new provider has them killed.

That's probably why his posts are so buggered up, too, with ">=20" stuck
in between every line of quoted material.

jeanette

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Sep 27, 2012, 9:54:01 AM9/27/12
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I'm glad to hear he is doing well. I miss his postings.

Jeanette

MajorOz

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Sep 27, 2012, 11:03:55 AM9/27/12
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That'

On Thursday, September 27, 2012 7:45:25 AM UTC-5, Michael Stemper wrote:
> In article <4efdcdc4-3364-4f99...@googlegroups.com>, MajorOz <Maj...@centurytel.net> writes:
>
> >On Wednesday, September 26, 2012 12:25:54 AM UTC-5, tian wrote:
>
>
>
> >> Yeah, but I'm still waiting for Silver to say "rumors of my demise
>
> >> have been blown out of proportion."
>
>
>
> >He just did, about two hours ago.
>
> >
>
> >He called me, while we were eating out.

That's eating IN, you dolt.

MajorOz

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Sep 27, 2012, 11:05:14 AM9/27/12
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On Thursday, September 27, 2012 7:47:12 AM UTC-5, Michael Stemper wrote:
> In article <wzW8s.1591$Wo3....@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com>, "gaeltach" <hcat...@bigpond.com> writes:
>
> >"tian" <tnha...@aceweb.com.nospam> wrote in message news:k411s...@enews2.newsguy.com...
>
> >> On 09/26/2012 05:41 PM, MajorOz wrote:
>
>
>
> >>> On Wednesday, September 26, 2012 12:25:54 AM UTC-5, tian wrote:
>
> >
>
> >Why am I seeing Tian's post, but not Major Oz's original post that is quoted
>
> >in Tian's? Anyone else have this?
>
>
>
> It's probably because he's posting from Google Groups and either you or
>
> your new provider has them killed.
>
>
>
> That's probably why his posts are so buggered up, too, with ">=20" stuck
>
> in between every line of quoted material.

Really ?

I apologize.

Would you cut and paste a piece of one of them so I can see what you mean ?

thanx

Michael Stemper

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Sep 27, 2012, 12:36:24 PM9/27/12
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In article <48c92572-7e35-4a12...@googlegroups.com>, MajorOz <Maj...@centurytel.net> writes:
>On Thursday, September 27, 2012 7:47:12 AM UTC-5, Michael Stemper wrote:
>> In article <wzW8s.1591$Wo3....@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com>, "gaeltach" <hcat...@bigpond.com> writes:
>> >"tian" <tnha...@aceweb.com.nospam> wrote in message news:k411s...@enews2.newsguy.com...
>> >> On 09/26/2012 05:41 PM, MajorOz wrote:
>> >>> On Wednesday, September 26, 2012 12:25:54 AM UTC-5, tian wrote:

>> >Why am I seeing Tian's post, but not Major Oz's original post that is quoted
>>
>> >in Tian's? Anyone else have this?
>>
>>
>>
>> It's probably because he's posting from Google Groups and either you or
>>
>> your new provider has them killed.
>>
>>
>>
>> That's probably why his posts are so buggered up, too, with ">=20" stuck
>>
>> in between every line of quoted material.
>
>Really ?
>
>I apologize.

As I understand it, it's rather hard for a user to track, day by day, what
random behavior they decide to introduce. For instance, they appear to have
once again added the feature of emailing a copy of each followup article
to the person being followed up.

>Would you cut and paste a piece of one of them so I can see what you mean ?

Strangely, this post of yours didn't have that problem, but here's a piece
of the post to which I was referring:


On Wednesday, September 26, 2012 12:25:54 AM UTC-5, tian wrote:
> On 09/25/2012 03:44 AM, Mike Dworetsky wrote:
>=20
> > MajorOz wrote:
>=20
> >> On Monday, September 24, 2012 10:51:57 AM UTC-5, reilloc wrote:
>=20
> >>> On 8/29/2012 12:46 PM, Just Plain Jack wrote:
>=20
> >>>
>=20
> >>>> Is he still around?
>=20
> >>>
>=20
> >>>>
>=20
> >>>
>=20
> >>> David M. Silver, 68, a retired attorney, was a confidant of Virginia
>=20
> >>>
>=20
> >>> Heinlein's in the final years of her life,

[snip]

> > fright. Didn't Mark Twain have a similar problem while on his travels i=
n
>=20
> > Europe?
>=20
> >
>=20
> Yeah, but I'm still waiting for Silver to say "rumors of my demise
>=20
> have been blown out of proportion."
>=20
>=20
>=20
> --=20
>=20
> Tian
>=20
> http://tian.greens.org
>=20
> Latest change: Added pi in the sky above google HQ in Mountain View.
>=20
> The Green pin I got from a Kiwi in Baltimore's on a Michigan quarter.

He just did, about two hours ago.

He called me, while we were eating out.

Had a nice long chat.


Mike Dworetsky

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Sep 27, 2012, 5:06:11 PM9/27/12
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Michael Stemper wrote:
> In article <4efdcdc4-3364-4f99...@googlegroups.com>,
> MajorOz <Maj...@centurytel.net> writes:
>> On Wednesday, September 26, 2012 12:25:54 AM UTC-5, tian wrote:
>
>>> Yeah, but I'm still waiting for Silver to say "rumors of my demise
>>> have been blown out of proportion."
>
>> He just did, about two hours ago.
>>
>> He called me, while we were eating out.
>
> You interrupt sex to answer the phone?

"EF or FF?"

"Both!"

reilloc

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Oct 1, 2012, 11:46:46 AM10/1/12
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On 9/26/2012 7:41 PM, MajorOz wrote:

> He just did, about two hours ago.
>
> He called me, while we were eating out.
>
> Had a nice long chat.
>
> Docs have fixed the problem in the heart that made him so tired all the time.
>
> He sounded GREAT on the phone.....much better than at our dinner, a couple years ago.
>
> Been off cigarettes for almost two years, which for him is a BIG thing.
>
> All in all, doing much better than he has in years.
>
> And........LNC.....
>
> I told him of your nice eulogy.....he appreciated it.
>

I didn't write that. I copied and pasted it from THS website. I'll phone
the guy later this week and see what he's got to say for himself.

LNC

gaeltach

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Oct 1, 2012, 4:41:10 PM10/1/12
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"reilloc" <rei...@gmail.com> wrote :

> I didn't write that. I copied and pasted it from THS website. I'll phone
> the guy later this week and see what he's got to say for himself.
>
> LNC

It would be nice to see his words around here again sometime. Pass on my
regards if possible.

Sean


Just Plain Jack

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Nov 11, 2012, 8:15:18 PM11/11/12
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On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 15:06:23 -0400, Michael Black <et...@ncf.ca>
wrote:

>On Wed, 29 Aug 2012, Just Plain Jack wrote:
>
>> Is he still around?
>>
>Still no change since August 26th, and August 27th. The newsgroups are
>not "write only" you ought to read them and then you'd have an answer.
>
> Michael

I do apologize, my newreader decided not to refresh the list and I
thought I was doing something wrong. Had to delete the Newsgroup and
redownload it. Mea Culpa
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