top 100 SF (at the risk of being OnT)
Oscagne
have to read"
Heinlein only made the list 3 times: ST, Stranger, and Puppet Masters. (only
3? sacrilege.)
http://www.phobosweb.com/features/100books/top100index.html
and the Fark comments, with at least one lament that the juveniles are not
represented.
http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=1966525
--
Oscagne
jeanette
science fiction could you find two people who would come up with the
same list.
I didn't see anyone else on the list three times. Can't ignore the
short stories either.
Jeanette
TreetopAngel
"jeanette" writes:
Philip K. Dick made the list at least three times, too. That was just a
quick look.
The list looked fairly comprehensive to me, reminded me of some books
I've intended to read and some I will re-read.
E!
harryfmudd [AT] comcast [DOT] net
Asimov made it three times ("Foundation", "The Gods Themselves", and "I,
Robot"), but no other that I can find. Here's the entire list, by
author. Names were considered one big chunk for the purpose of assigning
credit and alphabetizing, thus neatly sidestepping the question of how
to deal with collaborations. From eyeballing the list, the only problem
with this is we deny Frederick Pohl the individual credit for his
collaboration with C.M. Kornbluth.
A.A. Attanasio - 1 ("Radix")
A.E. Van Vogt - 2 ("Slan", "The Voyage of the Space Beagle")
A.K. Dewdney - 1 ("Planiverse")
Aldous Huxley - 1 ("Brave New World")
Alfred Bester - 2 ("The Stars My Destination", "The Demolished Man")
Anne McCaffrey - 1 ("Dragonflight")
Anthony Burgess - 1 ("A Clockwork Orange")
Arthur C. Clarke - 2 ("Childhood's End", "2001: A Space Odyssey")
Ben Bova - 1 ("Mars")
Boris Strugatsky & Arkady Strugatsky - 1 ("Roadside Picnic")
C.J. Cherryh - 2 ("Cuckoo's Egg", "Downbelow Station")
C.M. Kornbluth & Frederick Pohl - 1 ("Space Merchants")
C.S. Friedman - 1 ("In Conquest Born")
Clifford Simak - 1 ("Way Station")
Connie Willis - 1 ("The Doomsday Book")
Dan Simmons - 1 ("Hyperion")
Daniel Keyes - 1 ("Flowers for Algernon")
David Brin - 2 ("Startide Rising", "The Postman")
David Gerrold - 1 ("The Man Who Folded Himself")
Douglas Adams - 1 ("Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy")
E. E. "Doc" Smith - 1 ("Gray Lensman")
Edgar Rice Burroughs - 1 ("A Princess of Mars")
Edwin Abbot - 1 ("Flatland")
Frank Herbert - 1 ("Dune")
Fred Saberhagen - 1 ("Berserker")
Frederick Pohl - 1 ("Gateway")
Gene Wolfe - 1 ("Shadow of the Torturer")
George Orwell - 1 ("1984")
George R. Stewart - 1 ("Earth Abides")
Greg Bear - 2 ("Eon", "Blood Music")
Gregory Benford - 2 ("Cosm", "Timescape")
H.G. Wells - 2 ("The War of the Worlds", "The Time Machine")
Hal Clement - 1 ("Mission of Gravity")
Harlan Ellison - 1 ("Deathbird Stories")
Henry Kuttner - 1 ("Mutant")
Hugo Gernsback - 1 ("Ralph 124C41+")
Isaac Asimov - 3 ("Foundation", "The Gods Themselves", "I, Robot")
J.G. Ballard - 1 ("Drowned World")
James Blish - 2 ("A Case of Conscience", "Cities in Flight")
James White - 1 ("Star Surgeon")
Joan Vinge - 1 ("The Snow Queen")
Joe Haldeman - 1 ("Forever War")
John Brunner - 1 ("Stand on Zanzibar")
John Christopher - 1 ("No Blade of Grass")
John Wyndham - 2 ("The Day of the Triffids", "The Midwich Cuckoos")
Jules Verne - 2 ("20,000 Leagues Under the Sea", "Journey to the Center
of the Earth")
Karl Kapek - 1 ("War with the Newts")
Kim Stanley Robinson - 1 ("Red Mars")
Kurt Vonnegut - 1 ("Cat's Cradle")
Larry Niven - 1 ("Ringworld")
Lewis Carroll - 1 ("Alice in Wonderland")
Marion Zimmer Bradley - 1 ("Heritage of Hastur")
Mary Wollstonecraft Shelley - 1 ("Frankenstein")
Michael Crichton - 1 ("The Andromeda Strain")
Michael Moorcock - 1 ("Behold the Man")
Nancy Kress - 1 ("Beggars in Spain")
Neal Stephenson - 1 ("Snow Crash")
Octavia E. Butler - 1 ("Dawn")
Olaf Stapledon - 2 ("Last and First Man", "Star Maker")
Orson Scott Card - 1 ("Ender's Game")
Philip Jose Farmer - 2 ("To Your Scattered Bodies Go", "Flesh")
Philip K. Dick - 3 ("Man in the High Castle", "Valis", "The Three
Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch")
Piers Anthony - 1 ("Omnivore")
Poul Anderson - 1 ("Brain Wave")
Ray Bradbury - 2 ("Fahrenheit 451", "The Martian Chronicles")
Richard Matheson - 1 ("I Am Legend")
Robert A. Heinlein - 3 ("Starship Troopers", "Stranger in a Strange
Land", "Puppet Masters")
Robert L. Forward - 1 ("Dragon's Egg")
Robert Louis Stevenson - 1 ("The Strange Case of Dr. Jeckyl And Mr. Hyde")
Roger Zelazny - 1 ("Lord of Light")
Samuel R. Delany - 2 ("Triton", "Dhalgren")
Stanislaw Lem - 1 ("Solaris")
Theodore Sturgeon - 1 ("More Than Human")
Thomas Disch - 1 ("Camp Concentration")
Ursula K. Le Guin - 2 ("The Left Hand of Darkness", "The Lathe of Heaven")
Various - 1 ("Upanishads")
Walter Miller - 1 ("A Canticle For Leibowitz")
William Gibson - 1 ("Neuromancer")
Tom Wyant
P.S. Hi E! Long time no see!
Chris Zakes
caused "harryfmudd [AT] comcast [DOT] net" <"harryfmudd [AT] comcast
[DOT] net"> to write:
(major snippage)
Okay, I've not read a goodly number of these stories, but at least I
recognize the titles and/or authors. Two of them have me scratching my
head though.
>Lewis Carroll - 1 ("Alice in Wonderland")
How does *anybody* figure that one for science fiction??
>Various - 1 ("Upanishads")
As in the Hindu sacred texts? The same question applies.
-Chris Zakes
Texas
You can find complaints as far back as Socrates about how things
aren't like they were in "the good old days" and how the world is
going to hell in a handbasket. Either hell is a lot farther away
than we thought, or the handbasket is moving *really* slowly.
Dr. Rufo
Chris Zakes wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 20:04:41 -0500, an orbital mind-control laser
> caused "harryfmudd [AT] comcast [DOT] net" <"harryfmudd [AT] comcast
> [DOT] net"> to write:
>
> (major snippage)
>
> Okay, I've not read a goodly number of these stories, but at least I
> recognize the titles and/or authors. Two of them have me scratching my
> head though.
>
>
>>Lewis Carroll - 1 ("Alice in Wonderland")
>
>
> How does *anybody* figure that one for science fiction??
>
>
>
>>Various - 1 ("Upanishads")
>
>
> As in the Hindu sacred texts? The same question applies.
The "easy answer" IMNSHO involves the person(s) creating that list
NOT understanding (at least) the two works you've mentioned above
and (I suspect) not a few more of the other entries.
But, on the whole, a list is a list, innit?
Just because it claims to indicate a specific content doesn't mean
it <i>relfects</i> that content. The immortal William Schwenk
Gilbert wrote:
"Things are seldom what they seem.
Skim milk masquerades as cream."
I, myself, could probably write a text book on Advanced Calculus
that would teach THAT subject as well as the list under discussion
reflects "The 100 science fiction books you just have to read."
Welllll, perhaps that's an exaggeration -- but not much!
Shucks, CZ, what's next? "The 100 Chick-Flicks you just have to
See" If George Pal's "Destination Moon" were to be placed on THAT
list; would that make is so?
In all honesty, after I got to the third entry on the list that
elicited a WTF?!? response -- I stoppd reading it. (Call me
irresponsible!)
Pax,
Rufe
lal_truckee
> In all honesty, after I got to the third entry on the list that
> elicited a WTF?!? response -- I stoppd reading it.
Heh. If you had kept going you could have sung a fine chorus of WTFs for
the entertainment of friends and neighbors.
Denny Wheeler
wrote:
>This link was posted to Fark.com. The "100 science fiction books you just
>have to read"
>
>Heinlein only made the list 3 times: ST, Stranger, and Puppet Masters. (only
>3? sacrilege.)
>
>http://www.phobosweb.com/features/100books/top100index.html
I was bemused by their including "2001-A Space Odyssey"--I agree that
"The Sentinel" is a 'must read'; but the book expansion from the
movie? Naaaahhhh.
-denny-
--
"...our dignity, our free institutions and the peace and
welfare of this and coming generations of Americans will be
secure only as we cling to the watchword of true patriotism:
'Our country--when right to be kept right; when wrong to be put
right.'" - Carl Schurz, in 1899
harryfmudd [AT] comcast [DOT] net
Hm. Sturgeon's law applies to "top 100" lists as well.
My personal take on this sort of thing is that it tells us more about
the compiler of the list about anything else.
Tom Wyant
TreetopAngel
"harryfmudd [AT] comcast [DOT] net" writes a very nice list!
<snip>
> P.S. Hi E! Long time no see!
Hi Tom...Been hanging around but unsociable, trying to do the spring
cleaning thing and get through the entire canon of a pair of
authors...Douglas Preston and Lincoln Child. Love their stories!
Getting down about two a week!
How you?
Hugs,
E!
lal_truckee
> On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 01:36:42 -0600, "Oscagne" <osc...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> http://www.phobosweb.com/features/100books/top100index.html
>
> I was bemused by their including "2001-A Space Odyssey"--I agree that
> "The Sentinel" is a 'must read'; but the book expansion from the
> movie? Naaaahhhh.
This particular list is an egregiously bad list. It is unworthy of even
passing consideration.
If anyone actually cares about such lists, a much better supported list
is available:
<http://classics.jameswallaceharris.com/Lists/SFClassics1996.html>
Background on this list is at
<http://classics.jameswallaceharris.com/>
See also a list of reasonably good other "best SF" lists at
<http://classics.jameswallaceharris.com/Lists/OtherLists.html>
Denny Wheeler
wrote:
>Denny Wheeler wrote:
>> On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 01:36:42 -0600, "Oscagne" <osc...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> http://www.phobosweb.com/features/100books/top100index.html
>>
>> I was bemused by their including "2001-A Space Odyssey"--I agree that
>> "The Sentinel" is a 'must read'; but the book expansion from the
>> movie? Naaaahhhh.
>
>This particular list is an egregiously bad list. It is unworthy of even
>passing consideration.
I wasn't terribly impressed. As with any such list, it'd be nice to
see who made it, what were the criteria, etc.
>
>If anyone actually cares about such lists, a much better supported list
>is available:
> <http://classics.jameswallaceharris.com/Lists/SFClassics1996.html>
Well, when I can *read* that list, I will. The webmaster chose a
*tiny* font for it. (hits <ctrl>+ twice) Ahhh. Much better.
>
>Background on this list is at
> <http://classics.jameswallaceharris.com/>
>
>See also a list of reasonably good other "best SF" lists at
> <http://classics.jameswallaceharris.com/Lists/OtherLists.html>
I will.
Thanks, Lal
Bookman
wrote:
>Denny Wheeler wrote:
I don't know that i can respect any list that ranks _Dune_ and _The
Foundation Trilogy_ higher than SiaSL, at least in terms of
importance.
I will say that, at least this one tried to have a consistent
approach.
Regards,
--
Rusty the bookman
Denny Wheeler
wrote:
>>If anyone actually cares about such lists, a much better supported list
>>is available:
>> <http://classics.jameswallaceharris.com/Lists/SFClassics1996.html>
>>
>>Background on this list is at
>> <http://classics.jameswallaceharris.com/>
>>
>>See also a list of reasonably good other "best SF" lists at
>> <http://classics.jameswallaceharris.com/Lists/OtherLists.html>
>
>I don't know that i can respect any list that ranks _Dune_ and _The
>Foundation Trilogy_ higher than SiaSL, at least in terms of
>importance.
But bear in mind that this one is weighted toward older works. Look
at the list of critics and polls--at least two of them predate
'Stranger,' so it can't be cited on them.
Granted, the same applies to _Dune_--but then I don't think the list
says "Most Important SF Works."
lal_truckee
> But bear in mind that this one is weighted toward older works. Look
> at the list of critics and polls--at least two of them predate
> 'Stranger,' so it can't be cited on them.
> Granted, the same applies to _Dune_--but then I don't think the list
> says "Most Important SF Works."
Terminates in 1996. Which is actually good, for how can one judge a work
in context before a certain passage of time. More recent works may have
value, but we won't really know for a couple of decades.
Some of the other lists referenced are interesting...
The Rocket Scientist
Here's a couple.
Brave New World Written by Aldous Huxley
1984 Written by George Orwell
These books are perhaps amusing social commentary, but they lack
several key ingredients found in SF. For one thing, I find in SF a
real kind of cockeyed optimism in the human race. As much as we might
mess ourselves up, SF always speaks to the triumph of humanity, even
over ourselves. In Brave New World and 1984, humanity lost. Even in
H.G. Wells' books, this thing called the human race somehow finds a way
to prevail.
One more observation.
A Princess of Mars Written by Edgar Rice Burroughs
I absolutely without hesitation enjoy Burroughs' martian novels, and
highly recommend them. But they are not SF. Burroughs plays fast and
loose with science. He was not a scientist, and it showed. He wrote
some fantastic adventures and I do enjoy reading and re-reading them.
But they just don't make the grade as SF.
Any other observations?
Bill Sullivan
"There are two types of people: those who divide everything into two
groups, and those who don't." - unknown
Bookman
<den...@TANSTAAFL.zipcon.net.INVALID> wrote:
>On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 06:48:26 GMT, Bookman <thebo...@kc.rr.comNULL>
>wrote:
>
>>>If anyone actually cares about such lists, a much better supported list
>>>is available:
>>> <http://classics.jameswallaceharris.com/Lists/SFClassics1996.html>
>>>
>>>Background on this list is at
>>> <http://classics.jameswallaceharris.com/>
>>>
>>>See also a list of reasonably good other "best SF" lists at
>>> <http://classics.jameswallaceharris.com/Lists/OtherLists.html>
>>
>>I don't know that i can respect any list that ranks _Dune_ and _The
>>Foundation Trilogy_ higher than SiaSL, at least in terms of
>>importance.
>
>But bear in mind that this one is weighted toward older works. Look
>at the list of critics and polls--at least two of them predate
>'Stranger,' so it can't be cited on them.
Oh, I do bear that in mind, Denny. That's why I said "this one tried
to have a consistent approach", to acknowledge that structure.
Possibly I was too subtle there.
>Granted, the same applies to _Dune_--but then I don't think the list
>says "Most Important SF Works."
Nope, it doesn't. Nor did I say it did, although one of the other
lists on that site is listed "by Rank", which I intended to include in
the generalization. That, and in terms of selection you can have a
critics' convention (importance), or a "beauty pageant" (popularity),
or a mix of some sort. I don't see any other ways of ranking them,
off-hand. This one tried for a mix, IMO, since it included polls.
But results count, too. Certainly there was a weighting effect in
terms of age, but I maintain that a list which places _Dune_ over
SiaSL and LotR, has problems. FWIW, i like all three, and the
Foundation books, too.
Probably any list or ranking will have certain problems. All I am
saying (and badly, apparently) is that I believe this one does, too,
and why I believe that.
Regards,
--
Rusty the bookman
WWFSMD?
MajorOz
is art I like and art that I don't like. Sometimes these two
categorizations overlap, sometimes not.
That said, I find this list to be teddibly, teddibly correct in the
artsy sense, with a few GOOD STORIES thrown in to placate us commoners.
My list, your list, their list; all different, but we should each try
to lay out our criteria. Mine is: Will I pass up a jam session or
afternoon fishing to finish the book?
YMMV
cheers
oz
harryfmudd [AT] comcast [DOT] net
Not too bad. This may be a busy week with grand-daughter's birthday
coming up and a cousin coming through to visit.
At this point, most of my reading is bedtime. After re-reading "Fafhrd
and the Mouser" and first-time reading "The Book Nobody Read"
(non-fiction, about the taking of a definitive inventory of the first
and second edition of Copernicus' "De Revolutionibus") I made the
mistake of pulling down "The Puppet Masters". I have read it at least
two or three times before, but it was no easier to put down this time.
Needless to say, I got up really groggy a couple mornings.
Off to the Highland Maple festival
(http://www.highlandcounty.org/maple.htm) last Saturday. It's a bit out
of the way for all-you-can-eat buckwheat pancakes with maple syrup, but fun.
Spring doesn't seem to know whether to come here or not. We had
jonquils, crocus, and hyacinth up since February, but they're predicting
snow tomorrow night.
Ahhhh - another high-quality hug from E! Reciprocated with pleasure
(which I hope is not _all_ mine) and enthusiasm.
TOm
jeanette
subjects where humanity wins.
Of course we want to be the good guys, but things happen and maybe we
won't always be. Cautionary tales should be an important part of future
speculation.
There is good SF that doesn't even include humans (although there is
usually some kind of being that "we" identify with).
Jeanette--who prefers happy endings, but knows that life isn't always
that way.
lal_truckee
> Bill--Rocket Scientist--I totally disagree that SF should be limited to
> subjects where humanity wins.
He's an unannounced Campbellian, maybe even not self-unacknowledged?
TreetopAngel
"harryfmudd [AT] comcast [DOT] net" mentions:
>
> Not too bad. This may be a busy week with grand-daughter's birthday
> coming up and a cousin coming through to visit.
That will distract you a bit!
>
> At this point, most of my reading is bedtime. After re-reading "Fafhrd
> and the Mouser" and first-time reading "The Book Nobody Read"
> (non-fiction, about the taking of a definitive inventory of the first
> and second edition of Copernicus' "De Revolutionibus") I made the
> mistake of pulling down "The Puppet Masters". I have read it at least
> two or three times before, but it was no easier to put down this time.
> Needless to say, I got up really groggy a couple mornings.
We are having a lull at work and so I've been able to take a book most
nights. I usually have multiple treatments and meds throughout the
night, but lately once I am done at 2100, I don't have anything else to
do with direct patient care until 0600. If I clean the med room anymore
I'll be scrubbing the pattern off the formica. I suggested they leave
me a ladder, paint and brushes...but that hasn't happened, so I read.
My nursing assistant has gotten stingy with letting me help, he's
getting bored, too!
>
> Off to the Highland Maple festival
> (http://www.highlandcounty.org/maple.htm) last Saturday. It's a bit
> out of the way for all-you-can-eat buckwheat pancakes with maple
> syrup, but fun.
Looks like fun!
>
> Spring doesn't seem to know whether to come here or not. We had
> jonquils, crocus, and hyacinth up since February, but they're
> predicting snow tomorrow night.
Been pretty cold here last few nights, but no snow. Looks like it's
hitting every where BUT here. I got the planters at work decorated for
Easter...dirt was still frozen. Nothing much coming up, yet.
>
> Ahhhh - another high-quality hug from E! Reciprocated with pleasure
> (which I hope is not _all_ mine) and enthusiasm.
Pleasure and enthusiasm overflow on this end, too!
More Hugs,
E!
The Rocket Scientist
No, I'm a lab mouse with an agenda for world domination. :-)
I appreciate your opinion, and really won't lose a lot of sleep if we
disagree.
I feel about this list kind of like I feel about any "Top 100" list of
anything. It is something for us to disagree with.
Bill Sullivan
"I'm shopping around for something to do that no one will like."
- Jerry Garcia
harryfmudd [AT] comcast [DOT] net
>
> "harryfmudd [AT] comcast [DOT] net" mentions:
>
>> (snipped)
>
>
> We are having a lull at work and so I've been able to take a book most
> nights. I usually have multiple treatments and meds throughout the
> night, but lately once I am done at 2100, I don't have anything else to
> do with direct patient care until 0600. If I clean the med room anymore
> I'll be scrubbing the pattern off the formica. I suggested they leave
> me a ladder, paint and brushes...but that hasn't happened, so I read. My
> nursing assistant has gotten stingy with letting me help, he's getting
> bored, too!
>
Cherish the boredom, for those times when you don't have any.
>>
>> Spring doesn't seem to know whether to come here or not. We had
>> jonquils, crocus, and hyacinth up since February, but they're
>> predicting snow tomorrow night.
>
>
> Been pretty cold here last few nights, but no snow. Looks like it's
> hitting every where BUT here. I got the planters at work decorated for
> Easter...dirt was still frozen. Nothing much coming up, yet.
>
Well, sometime overnight the forecast changed to rain. Maybe they got
some up Pixel's way. The cousin is from Baltimore, where it's supposed
to snow after noon.
>>
>> Ahhhh - another high-quality hug from E! Reciprocated with pleasure
>> (which I hope is not _all_ mine) and enthusiasm.
>
>
> Pleasure and enthusiasm overflow on this end, too!
>
> More Hugs,
> E!
>
Thank you so much. (((( E! ))))
Tom
TreetopAngel
"The Rocket Scientist" plans for tonight:
>
> No, I'm a lab mouse with an agenda for world domination. :-)
Are you Pinky or The Brain???
Just wondering...
E!
TreetopAngel
"harryfmudd [AT] comcast [DOT] net" writes:
>
> Cherish the boredom, for those times when you don't have any.
Trust me, I do! But, 9 hours is a long time to just hang out and
cherish! Not that I wish my patients would get sick or something...
>
> Thank you so much. (((( E! ))))
You are so welcome! {{{{{Tom}}}}}
E!
(off to get some sleep)
The Rocket Scientist
Narf!
Bill Sullivan
"I read somewhere that 77 per cent of all the mentally ill live in
poverty. Actually, I'm more intrigued by the 23 per cent who are
apparently doing quite well for themselves."
- Jerry Garcia
TreetopAngel
"The Rocket Scientist" sez:
> TreetopAngel wrote:
>> "The Rocket Scientist" plans for tonight:
>> >
>> > No, I'm a lab mouse with an agenda for world domination. :-)
>>
>> Are you Pinky or The Brain???
>>
>> Just wondering...
>
> Narf!
Gotcha!
E!
The Rocket Scientist
> "The Rocket Scientist" sez:
>
> > TreetopAngel wrote:
> >> "The Rocket Scientist" plans for tonight:
> >> >
> >> > No, I'm a lab mouse with an agenda for world domination. :-)
> >>
> >> Are you Pinky or The Brain???
> >>
> >> Just wondering...
> >
> > Narf!
>
> Gotcha!
>
I think so, Brain, but me and Pippi Longstocking... I mean, what would
the children look like?
Anneli
The Rocket Scientist skrev:
They would most cerenly look great. But Pippi Långstrump is a very
independent lady so you must be careful in your contacts with her. And
she dont drink anything alcoholic som may I offer you some lemonade?
Anneli
Anneli
Anneli skrev:
Pardon me it should be certenly as the fourth word!
I am so sorry!
Anneli
harryfmudd [AT] comcast [DOT] net
I would spell it "certainly", but that's OK. English isn't so much a
language as a collision, and spelling was kind of tacked on as an
afterthought. We have a "complete works of Shakespeare" with a facsimile
of the first page of "The Tempest" - and my conclusion is that William
Shakespeare couldn't spell any better than you or I can.
Or, as Mark Twain put it, "It's a poor speller that can only spell a
word one way."
And the irregular verbs! Aaaaaugh!
Actually, a U.S. cultural note is probably in order here. There was once
on television a Warner Brothers cartoon show which featured (among other
things) two laboratory mice, Pinky and the Brain ("one is a genius, the
other insane" as their theme song asserted). Their segment always
started with the following dialog:
Pinky: Duuh, what are we going to do tonight, Brain?
Brain: Same thing we do every night, Pinky. Try to take over the world!
At some point in the proceedings, Brain would say "Are you pondering
what I'm pondering, Pinky?" To which Pinky would respond with "I think
so, Brain, but ..." and a complete non-sequitur. Non-sequiturs that come
to mind include:
... this time you wear the tutu. (my favorite!)
... how do we know the Queen of England has a jet ski?
... me and Pippi Longstocking? What would the children look like?
I have probably gone on longer than enough on a note that maybe did not
need to be written at all. Please forgive me.
Tom Wyant
TreetopAngel
"The Rocket Scientist" wrote:
<hand smacking forehead>
E!
Oscagne
"harryfmudd [AT] comcast [DOT] net" <"harryfmudd [AT] comcast [DOT] net">
wrote in message news:W6ednZd6A-d-t7_Z...@comcast.com...
> At some point in the proceedings, Brain would say "Are you pondering what
> I'm pondering, Pinky?" To which Pinky would respond with "I think so,
> Brain, but ..." and a complete non-sequitur. Non-sequiturs that come to
> mind include:
>
> ... this time you wear the tutu. (my favorite!)
>
> ... how do we know the Queen of England has a jet ski?
>
> ... me and Pippi Longstocking? What would the children look like?
And my favorite: " . . . where are we going to find rubber pants our size?"
--
Oscagne
Bookman
wrote:
Check out
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Pinky_and_the_Brain
The "Pondering" quotes start about half-way down. (GIYF, hooray!)
Dr. Rufo
Bookman wrote:
< snip >
> Check out
>
> http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Pinky_and_the_Brain
>
> The "Pondering" quotes start about half-way down. (GIYF, hooray!)
Many thanks, Rusty, for providing the ponder-ous collection of
quotes and for demonstrating one of the IMNSHO very few
"appropriate" uses for citing a wikipedia entry.
< WEG >
(We each have our own hobby-horses, don't we?)
Pax,
Rufe
Bookman
wrote:
>
>
>Bookman wrote:
>< snip >
>> Check out
>>
>> http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Pinky_and_the_Brain
>>
>> The "Pondering" quotes start about half-way down. (GIYF, hooray!)
>
> Many thanks, Rusty, for providing the ponder-ous collection of
>quotes and for demonstrating one of the IMNSHO very few
>"appropriate" uses for citing a wikipedia entry.
>< WEG >
Ah, I am glad that someone found my addiction (to search engines, that
is) useful.
>(We each have our own hobby-horses, don't we?)
Indeed.
If I may ask a rather personal question, sir: You don't happen to live
close to Santa Barbara, do you?
<Sigh> I might as well admit it, I'm hoping the movie involving my
Father-in-law will get it's break, and considering your involvement
with the general field, I had very much hoped that you could have
taken a peek at it. Unfair on my part, I know. So is this post, but
i will hang my head in shame and click the <send> button anyway...
<Cue mournful music>
Dr. Rufo
Bookman wrote:
< snip >
> If I may ask a rather personal question, sir: You don't happen to live
> close to Santa Barbara, do you?
Rusty, I live approximately 105 miles (mas o menos) from Santa
Barbara. Depending on the estimated time of departure and the day of
the week (and therefore, the volume of traffic on the requisite
really-not-so-freeways) the transit time for me driving thence would
range (conservatively) from 2.5 hours to "Donner Party Time."
I've only once ever visited Santa Barbara. Actually I visited the
"Little Mountain" area ("Montecito") which is the higher-profile
(biggggger-$$$$$) portion of S.B. Oprah lives there and some classic
"romantic rendezvous-es joints"(big-$$$) dating from the 1930's to
the present. You know, "Ye Olde-Fashioned Pay-for-Nooky Shoppes"
where you bring-your-own and then pay the shoppe-keeper for
accommodations and paparazzi patrols. And, just in case you're
thinking it, I wasn't. I was visiting a priest. Honest.
> <Sigh> I might as well admit it, I'm hoping the movie involving my
> Father-in-law will get it's break, and considering your involvement
> with the general field, I had very much hoped that you could have
> taken a peek at it. Unfair on my part, I know. So is this post, but
> i will hang my head in shame and click the <send> button anyway...
>
> <Cue mournful music>
Stop the tape! Rewind!
The drive is not impossible. Could you re-provide the
day/time/location name of the movie's exhibition -- I can figger out
the address and what-not.
I'll see what I can do.
Pax,
Rufe
Bookman
wrote:
>
>
>Bookman wrote:
>< snip >
>
>> If I may ask a rather personal question, sir: You don't happen to live
>> close to Santa Barbara, do you?
> Rusty, I live approximately 105 miles (mas o menos) from Santa
>Barbara. Depending on the estimated time of departure and the day of
>the week (and therefore, the volume of traffic on the requisite
>really-not-so-freeways) the transit time for me driving thence would
>range (conservatively) from 2.5 hours to "Donner Party Time."
> I've only once ever visited Santa Barbara. Actually I visited the
>"Little Mountain" area ("Montecito") which is the higher-profile
>(biggggger-$$$$$) portion of S.B. Oprah lives there and some classic
>"romantic rendezvous-es joints"(big-$$$) dating from the 1930's to
>the present. You know, "Ye Olde-Fashioned Pay-for-Nooky Shoppes"
>where you bring-your-own and then pay the shoppe-keeper for
>accommodations and paparazzi patrols. And, just in case you're
>thinking it, I wasn't. I was visiting a priest. Honest.
Naturally. <G>
Well, that rather answers my question, which, in retrospect should
have been asked weeks ago, and would have been better phrased "is SB
conveniently close to you?
>
>> <Sigh> I might as well admit it, I'm hoping the movie involving my
>> Father-in-law will get it's break, and considering your involvement
>> with the general field, I had very much hoped that you could have
>> taken a peek at it. Unfair on my part, I know. So is this post, but
>> i will hang my head in shame and click the <send> button anyway...
>>
>> <Cue mournful music>
>Stop the tape! Rewind!
>The drive is not impossible. Could you re-provide the
>day/time/location name of the movie's exhibition -- I can figger out
>the address and what-not.
>I'll see what I can do.
Echh! Again, poorly phrased on my part, sir. I was talking purely in
the past tense, even to this question. Not your fault. In fine, the
film festival has come and gone. The movie itself appears to have
been quite well received, and prospects appear to have improved for
shopping it to a distributor.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr/reviews/review_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002158404
http://makeashorterlink.com/?S13D26BDC
I shouldn't have hinted around at it back at the time, sir. I should
have sent you an e-mail or asked directly in some other fashion. I'll
try not to let that happen again. It started with this post:
http://makeashorterlink.com/?T14D31BDC
And I was disappointed when I didn't see a response from you.
And in review, I see that I'm still as clumsy as a bull in a china
shop. you deserve compensation for bearing with me, eh? ;-)
Perhaps a drink from the bar? We sampled a local brewpub's wares
today, and I thought well of the raspberry wheat, although it was a
bit on the sweet side.
Best regards,
--
Rusty the bookman
Yes, I'm aware that I'm in a hole and trying to dig myself out
again...
David M. Silver
Bookman <thebo...@kc.rr.comNULL> wrote:
> Echh! Again, poorly phrased on my part, sir. I was talking purely in
> the past tense, even to this question. Not your fault. In fine, the
> film festival has come and gone. The movie itself appears to have
> been quite well received, and prospects appear to have improved for
> shopping it to a distributor.
>
> http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr/reviews/review_display.jsp?vnu_content_id
> =1002158404
>
> http://makeashorterlink.com/?S13D26BDC
That's a very nice review, Rusty. I hope it does find a distributor. I
thought of driving up to Santa Barbara at the time of the festival, as
I'm about as far from it as Rufo--in fact, Rufo and I might have decided
to go together, but it's just as well I didn't try at the time. I'd look
forward to seeing it in a theatrical release. Keep us posted, please.
God is in his Kingdom and all's right with the World. UCLA advances to
the Final Four. Next up: LSU, next Saturday.
--
David M. Silver
http://www.heinleinsociety.org
"The Lieutenant expects your names to shine!"
Robert Anson Heinlein, USNA '29
Lt.(jg), USN, R'td
Dr. Rufo
Bookman wrote:
< snip >
> And in review
The article in The Reporter reads well and I look forward to
hearing more about the film. I'm not acquainted with the work of the
two leads because they seem to have done the bulk of their earlier
work on television programs I don't view.
Now then, Rusty, pour the beer and pass the sushi.
But first, Cousin, lissenhere: If you want to make certain that I
UNDERSTAND what you're talking/typing about -- you have GOT to SPELL
IT OUT. If you want me to <i>physically</i> move from Point A to
Point B you must include EGGS-ZACTLY the WHAT, WHEN, HOW information.
That said, I'm sorry I missed the show. Perhaps next time?
Pax,
Rufe
Bookman
wrote:
>
>
>Bookman wrote:
>< snip >
>
>> And in review
> The article in The Reporter reads well and I look forward to
>hearing more about the film. I'm not acquainted with the work of the
>two leads because they seem to have done the bulk of their earlier
>work on television programs I don't view.
Thank you, sir. Motherthing thinks well of Mr. Dern's work, anyway.
> Now then, Rusty, pour the beer and pass the sushi.
<Selects pilsner glass-clinkety, whoossssshhhh - pause - ssshhh.
Deals coaster, places beer. Throws siding switch on the funny little
tracks running down the bar.> Watch out, though. Sushi is on my
"learn it someday" list. <EG>
> But first, Cousin, lissenhere: If you want to make certain that I
>UNDERSTAND what you're talking/typing about -- you have GOT to SPELL
>IT OUT. If you want me to <i>physically</i> move from Point A to
>Point B you must include EGGS-ZACTLY the WHAT, WHEN, HOW information.
Agreed, sir. Next time, I will not expect that your superior
intellect to be sufficient to untangle my tortured logic. Again, my
apologies.
> That said, I'm sorry I missed the show. Perhaps next time?
With luck, the next time will be on nationwide opener at AMC, or
something. But at this point, all I will say is that I hope that
y'all will _consider_ watching it. I also know that not everyone
cares for sports movies, let alone family-friendly, feel-good, girls'
sports movies.
In case I hadn't mentioned it, the book is "Brief Garland", by Harold
Keith. I thought is was a nice book.
Dr. Rufo
Bookman wrote:
< snip >
> Thank you, sir. Motherthing thinks well of Mr. Dern's work, anyway.
I agree. He has the physical configuration and the talent necessary
to portray a completely believable slime-ball every time he comes to
bat. One of my favorites of his performances is in the
oldie-but-goodie he was in with John Wayne: "The Cowboys". Which I
suppose says more about my taste than Mr. D's abilities.
>> Now then, Rusty, pour the beer and pass the sushi.
>
>
> <Selects pilsner glass-clinkety, whoossssshhhh - pause - ssshhh.
> Deals coaster, places beer. Throws siding switch on the funny little
> tracks running down the bar.> Watch out, though. Sushi is on my
> "learn it someday" list. <EG>
The little train is nice but at home I prefer to roll my own. I
learned the basic techniques a few years ago and you just can't beat
real fresh when you speak of sushi. Oh yeah, it's absolutely
necessary to buy the raw ingredients from purveyors of the best
available, IMHO. I obtained that information from a couple of
friends who were born in Osaka.
< another snip >
> Agreed, sir. Next time, I will not expect that your superior
> intellect to be sufficient to untangle my tortured logic. Again, my
> apologies.
Cousin, the only thing around this mad-house with "Superior" on the
label is some Mexican beer I sometimes drink with fajitas.
> I also know that not everyone
> cares for sports movies, let alone family-friendly, feel-good, girls'
> sports movies.
Shucks, a well-made film should be appreciated on its own merits
regardless of the "genre" into which it happens to fall. "Rudy"
comes immediately to mind.
> In case I hadn't mentioned it, the book is "Brief Garland", by Harold
> Keith. I thought is was a nice book.
So noted and added to my list.
Pax,
Rufe
Bookman
wrote:
>
>
>Bookman wrote:
>
>< snip >
>> Thank you, sir. Motherthing thinks well of Mr. Dern's work, anyway.
>
> I agree. He has the physical configuration and the talent necessary
>to portray a completely believable slime-ball every time he comes to
>bat. One of my favorites of his performances is in the
>oldie-but-goodie he was in with John Wayne: "The Cowboys". Which I
>suppose says more about my taste than Mr. D's abilities.
If so, I lack the grounding to discern it either way.
>
>>> Now then, Rusty, pour the beer and pass the sushi.
>>
>>
>> <Selects pilsner glass-clinkety, whoossssshhhh - pause - ssshhh.
>> Deals coaster, places beer. Throws siding switch on the funny little
>> tracks running down the bar.> Watch out, though. Sushi is on my
>> "learn it someday" list. <EG>
>
> The little train is nice but at home I prefer to roll my own. I
>learned the basic techniques a few years ago and you just can't beat
>real fresh when you speak of sushi. Oh yeah, it's absolutely
>necessary to buy the raw ingredients from purveyors of the best
>available, IMHO. I obtained that information from a couple of
>friends who were born in Osaka.
I believe you on all counts. For the moment, I'd lief as not depend
on an untalented professional rather than risk your palate with my own
attempts.
I've currently got a theory: Rice hates me.
Now, don't get me wrong. I like rice. I like it a lot, in fact. I'm
not really very fussy about the preperation methods, either, come to
that. Steamed rice, boiled rice, fried rice, mexican rice, spanish
rice, white ric, brown rice, to name the top of the list, I love 'em
all.
But the last few times I have tried to coax goodness out of the fruit
of the paddy have been disasters. Inedible messes. Specifically
including the risotto, but also including a stab at saffron rice.
<Sigh> I'm used to succeeding with new stuff on a routine basis.
This may take _work_.
No, sir, I shall not inflict my attempt at sushi upon you. You
haven't sineed badly enough for that.
;-)
>
>< another snip >
>
>> Agreed, sir. Next time, I will not expect that your superior
>> intellect to be sufficient to untangle my tortured logic. Again, my
>> apologies.
> Cousin, the only thing around this mad-house with "Superior" on the
>label is some Mexican beer I sometimes drink with fajitas.
Heh. I'll drink to that. May I nevertheless say that you are
posessed of an intellect that I respect, then?
>
>> I also know that not everyone
>> cares for sports movies, let alone family-friendly, feel-good, girls'
>> sports movies.
> Shucks, a well-made film should be appreciated on its own merits
>regardless of the "genre" into which it happens to fall. "Rudy"
>comes immediately to mind.
While i won't argue with your premise, I will point out that while I
found _The Madness of King George_ to be a very well crafted
film in all ways that I could judge it, I would never give it an
unqualified recommendation, if you know what i mean.
>
>> In case I hadn't mentioned it, the book is "Brief Garland", by Harold
>> Keith. I thought is was a nice book.
> So noted and added to my list.
FWIW, for me it was a short read, and a fast read.
MajorOz
Dr. Rufo wrote:
> ...you just can't beat
> real fresh when you speak of sushi. Oh yeah, it's absolutely
> necessary to buy the raw ingredients from purveyors of the best
> available, IMHO. I obtained that information from a couple of
> friends who were born in Osaka.
I guess I am a plebian. I view sushi / sachimi as I do catsup on
steak. I learned to eat sashimi in Micronesia and love it. We never
went on a boat, for any purpose, without lime, wasabe, and soya.
Yellowfin was often available, but wahoo (king mack) and BLUE WATER
baraccuda I found to be just as good.
For any rice, two parts water to one part rice works fine -- in a
specialty cooker or canteen cup over a fire. (I always carried curry
powder in a film can).
One of the few problems here in the heartland is that I can't get FRESH
yellowfin at any price. It is always (from) frozen. Just doesn't
taste right.
cheers
oz, forced to live on all-you-can-eat catfish for $4.99, which includes
sweet tea and blackberry cobbler.
Dr. Rufo
MajorOz wrote:
> Dr. Rufo wrote:
>
>>...you just can't beat
>>real fresh when you speak of sushi. Oh yeah, it's absolutely
>>necessary to buy the raw ingredients from purveyors of the best
>>available, IMHO. I obtained that information from a couple of
>>friends who were born in Osaka.
>
>
> I guess I am a plebian. I view sushi / sachimi as I do catsup on
> steak. I learned to eat sashimi in Micronesia and love it. We never
> went on a boat, for any purpose, without lime, wasabe, and soya.
I found out long ago that I can taste an unmistakable difference
between "real fresh" and "fresh that used to be frozen." The former
I can use to make sushi. The latter I can cook. I've never been able
to develop a taste for sashimi. I think it's the peasant in my
heritage. So much fish so little rice. With sushi the fish flavors
the rice. (Mmmm, rice)
> Yellowfin was often available, but wahoo (king mack) and BLUE WATER
> baraccuda I found to be just as good.
> For any rice, two parts water to one part rice works fine -- in a
> specialty cooker or canteen cup over a fire.
I know. That's the drill my Mom taught me during the Early
Cretaceous. There's a new (to me) lady-chef on one of the PBS
stations I receive named Daisy Martinez. She "specializes" in Latin
American cuisines from Mexico through the Caribbean to the Straits
of Magellan and back again. She used a variation of "my Mother's
method" of measuring the rice and water: Dump the rice you want to
cook into a big pan. Pour water on top until the rice is covered to
the depth of "two fingers." Bring to a boil; stir; cover; reduce
heat; wait till done. Check after about 20 minutes.
The Tricky Part: How do you determine the water is "two fingers"
over the rice? Sra. Martinez takes a simple wooden kitchen spoon and
places it into the water until it touches the surface of the rice.
The she places her index and middle fingers over the wet mark on the
spoon. That's her "two fingers."
My Mom didn't' use the spoon: She checked the water level by
putting her middle finger into the water until it touched the
surface of the rice. When the water came to the middle of the second
joint it was "right."
I compared Sra. Daisy's method with my Mom's and the results
compared favorable to within measurable parameters.
Me, I measure: Two cups of water for each cup of rice. I know that
will take between 18 and 20 minutes varying with climate/God's mood.
I set the timer and check at 18 mins.
> (I always carried curry powder in a film can).
My Father loved curries of all sorts and I cannot stand them. I
have eaten some made by indigenous cooks and made the appropriate
polite faces and noises. I'd rather have a Burger King cheeseburger.
> One of the few problems here in the heartland is that I can't get FRESH
> yellowfin at any price. It is always (from) frozen. Just doesn't
> taste right.
Amen.
> oz, forced to live on all-you-can-eat catfish for $4.99, which includes
> sweet tea and blackberry cobbler.
I mix the tea half-and-half with tangy lemonade in my glass and I
love it that way. By the way, you didn't mention the hushpuppies,
fries, okra and cole slaw. Didn't your Momma teach you to eat your
vegetables?
I was about to send this off when I thought: I haven't even seen
"blackberry cobbler" offered anywhere since I left Missouri -- let
alone actually eaten it!!
Ah, nostalgia. . .
Pax,
Rufe
MajorOz
Dr. Rufo wrote:
> MajorOz wrote:
> > oz, forced to live on all-you-can-eat catfish for $4.99, which includes
> > sweet tea and blackberry cobbler.
> I mix the tea half-and-half with tangy lemonade in my glass and I
> love it that way. By the way, you didn't mention the hushpuppies,
> fries, okra and cole slaw. Didn't your Momma teach you to eat your
> vegetables?
> I was about to send this off when I thought: I haven't even seen
> "blackberry cobbler" offered anywhere since I left Missouri -- let
> alone actually eaten it!!
> Ah, nostalgia. . .
>
> Pax,
> Rufe
When I can get there, on Friday night I follow state Hwy 95 (which
passes a mile and a half from my place) south to the intersection of
state 76 to a place called Plummers Junction, about 40 mi. from the
Arkansas line. They have what I stated AND what you added. The
cobblers and others are often made by the local ladies and put on top
of the light bar over the hot tables. They receive nothing for
bringing them there -- they just like to watch us sigh contentedly and
try to breathe normally -- and rhubarb / gooseberry season is fast
approaching
There is also, in the corner between the kitchen and restrooms, music
from local groups: bluegrass, classic country, gospel. I have played
there a few times and sung with whoever was there from time to time.
It is some of the super cornball, trite, simple goodness that keeps me
here.
cheers
oz, who often adds one packet of lemon CrystalLite to a gallon of sun
tea
djinn
Dr. Rufo wrote:
> I mix the tea half-and-half with tangy lemonade in my glass and I
> love it that way. By the way, you didn't mention the hushpuppies,
> fries, okra and cole slaw. Didn't your Momma teach you to eat your
> vegetables?
> I was about to send this off when I thought: I haven't even seen
> "blackberry cobbler" offered anywhere since I left Missouri -- let
> alone actually eaten it!!
> Ah, nostalgia. . .
>
Ruth's Place down in Santa Ana used to have it, IIRC. Ruth was from
Mississippi. I always had to get the banana pudding though.
Nostalgia.....
David M. Silver
"djinn" <dje...@gmail.com> wrote:
Santa Ana is striking distance from Anaheim, where World Con will be
this August ... are you talking about a place at 1236 W Civic Center Dr,
just off Bristol, Dave? About five blocks south of Santa Ana College?
bill....@taylorandfrancis.com
Bannana pudding, slowly I turned.
There was a place called Bill & Bob's in Jasper, Alabama that had
banana pudding that was what banana cream pie might have WANTED to be
when it reincarnated in another life. I have had a good deal of banana
cream pie since then and a few banana puddings that were pretty good
but nothing like that pudding UNTIL.
A soul-food place from NYC, called Amy Ruth's, opened another
restaurant up at Foxwoods Casino. I sometimes go to Foxwoods to play
poker. I love the food at Amy Ruth's but I never had enough room for
desert, the servings are too large. The other day, I went there with
the intention of trying one of their deserts. I ate my entire
pulled-pork sandwhich, which was big and quite delicious, but did not
go in for any side orders. I ordered the banana pudding and it was
better than the ones I remembered from my youth. That just doesn't
HAPPEN.
Will in New Haven
--
"I am thus far a Quaker, that I would gladly argue with all the world
to lay aside the use of arms and settle matters by negotiation, but
unless the whole will, the matter ends, and I take up my musket and
thank Heaven He has put it in my power."
1. -Writings of Thomas Paine 56 (M. Conway ed. 1894)
djinn
David M. Silver wrote:
> In article <1143636791.5...@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
> "djinn" <dje...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Dr. Rufo wrote:
> >
> > > I mix the tea half-and-half with tangy lemonade in my glass and I
> > > love it that way. By the way, you didn't mention the hushpuppies,
> > > fries, okra and cole slaw. Didn't your Momma teach you to eat your
> > > vegetables?
> > > I was about to send this off when I thought: I haven't even seen
> > > "blackberry cobbler" offered anywhere since I left Missouri -- let
> > > alone actually eaten it!!
> > > Ah, nostalgia. . .
> > >
> > Ruth's Place down in Santa Ana used to have it, IIRC. Ruth was from
> > Mississippi. I always had to get the banana pudding though.
> >
> > Nostalgia.....
>
> Santa Ana is striking distance from Anaheim, where World Con will be
> this August ... are you talking about a place at 1236 W Civic Center Dr,
> just off Bristol, Dave? About five blocks south of Santa Ana College?
>
three tables. I haven't been there in three years or so, guess it's
still there.
Carrie
news:1143749628....@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
>
> There was a place called Bill & Bob's in Jasper, Alabama that had
> banana pudding that was what banana cream pie might have WANTED to be
> when it reincarnated in another life. I have had a good deal of banana
> cream pie since then and a few banana puddings that were pretty good
> but nothing like that pudding UNTIL.
>
> A soul-food place from NYC, called Amy Ruth's, opened another
> restaurant up at Foxwoods Casino. I sometimes go to Foxwoods to play
> poker. I love the food at Amy Ruth's but I never had enough room for
> desert, the servings are too large. The other day, I went there with
> the intention of trying one of their deserts. I ate my entire
> pulled-pork sandwhich, which was big and quite delicious, but did not
> go in for any side orders. I ordered the banana pudding and it was
> better than the ones I remembered from my youth. That just doesn't
> HAPPEN.
Will--
I have not tried Bill and Bob's (Sorry I didn't, when I was in college at
B-SC, Jasper was only a skip away) nor Amy Ruth's, so I don't know the
details of theris, but no one should be deproved of at least a basic banana
pudding, they are just too easy!
Vanillla wafers
bananas, sliced
*Cooked* vanilla pudding, fresh off the stove. (Mix, lke Jello is fine, but
instant won't do.)
Layer ingrediesnts in a heatproof glass bowl, cool and serve. Some people
like meringue on top, but I al ways serve plain or with whipped cream.
Serve room temp or chillled as preferred.
I think every souther mom or grandma has a particlar dish they always mke
the banana pudding in, and the stff just "wouldn't taste the same" in
anythng else. There was mourning when my mother dropped and broke the old
yellow Pyrex bowl she had gotten as a newlywed, from a grocery store
promotion.
--Dee
bill....@taylorandfrancis.com
Carrie wrote:
> "willre...@yahoo.com" <bill....@taylorandfrancis.com> wrote in message
> news:1143749628....@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
>
> >
> > There was a place called Bill & Bob's in Jasper, Alabama that had
> > banana pudding that was what banana cream pie might have WANTED to be
> > when it reincarnated in another life. I have had a good deal of banana
> > cream pie since then and a few banana puddings that were pretty good
> > but nothing like that pudding UNTIL.
> >
> > A soul-food place from NYC, called Amy Ruth's, opened another
> > restaurant up at Foxwoods Casino. I sometimes go to Foxwoods to play
> > poker. I love the food at Amy Ruth's but I never had enough room for
> > desert, the servings are too large. The other day, I went there with
> > the intention of trying one of their deserts. I ate my entire
> > pulled-pork sandwhich, which was big and quite delicious, but did not
> > go in for any side orders. I ordered the banana pudding and it was
> > better than the ones I remembered from my youth. That just doesn't
> > HAPPEN.
>
>
>
> Will--
>
>
> I have not tried Bill and Bob's (Sorry I didn't, when I was in college at
> B-SC, Jasper was only a skip away) nor Amy Ruth's, so I don't know the
> details of theris, but no one should be deproved of at least a basic banana
> pudding, they are just too easy!
You went to Southern? I used to go up there to see plays and party with
their theater people. It was a great school when I was at the U. of A.
I have heard that the fundies cracked down on the theater group, which
would be too bad in my opinion.
No one at Southern would be likely to go to Jasper. I don't go back;
that's for sure.
When did you start posting under "Carrie?"
>
> Vanillla wafers
> bananas, sliced
> *Cooked* vanilla pudding, fresh off the stove. (Mix, lke Jello is fine, but
> instant won't do.)
>
> Layer ingrediesnts in a heatproof glass bowl, cool and serve. Some people
> like meringue on top, but I al ways serve plain or with whipped cream.
> Serve room temp or chillled as preferred.
Making those at home would mean that I would have a great desert
available entirely too often. My simple rule: "Only eat GREAT deserts,
only have virtual booze," keeps me from being even heavier. However, I
will put the recipe aside for those times when I break the simple rule:
when the need to celebrate or commemorate over-rules the need to keep
the rule. Usually that calls for actual, rather than virtual, Wild
Turkey but a banana pudding would be good too. Instead or first.
>
> I think every souther mom or grandma has a particlar dish they always mke
> the banana pudding in, and the stff just "wouldn't taste the same" in
> anythng else. There was mourning when my mother dropped and broke the old
> yellow Pyrex bowl she had gotten as a newlywed, from a grocery store
> promotion.
>
> --Dee
Will in New Haven
--
"Don't worry too much about being bluffed. D*gs DO bite."
_Poker for Cats_ by Feather
TreetopAngel
Will asks:
> When did you start posting under "Carrie?"
Dee must be at her Mother's again!
E!
Carrie
"TreetopAngel" <treeto...@bresnan.net> wrote in message
news:wr6dnWFzVe7m1rDZ...@bresnan.com...
Got it in one, E!. I said so to Will, too, but thanks to being back in IE,
not Mozilla, I goofed and made it an email, not a post. Sorry, Will, it's
nopt that there were any deep dark secrets there. Just my goof.
--Dee
Will in New Haven
I bet your email went to my work addy because that is what is on google
now. And I have been off for a week. I will see it and reply on Monday.
I just switched to Mozilla, by the way, and I love it.
Will in New Haven
--
"Win the easy hands. Loud, noisy confrontations are for d-gs."
TreetopAngel
"Carrie" writes:
>
> "TreetopAngel" <treeto...@bresnan.net> wrote in message
> news:wr6dnWFzVe7m1rDZ...@bresnan.com...
>>
>>
>> E!
>
> Got it in one, E!. I said so to Will, too, but thanks to being back
> in IE, not Mozilla, I goofed and made it an email, not a post. Sorry,
> Will, it's nopt that there were any deep dark secrets there. Just my
> goof.
>
> --Dee
E! Smart Girl...
Actually, the long term memory is good, the sort term is on the fritz...
E!
Carrie
"Will in New Haven" <bill....@taylorandfrancis.com> wrote in message
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> You went to Southern? I used to go up there to see plays and party with
> their theater people. It was a great school when I was at the U. of A.
> I have heard that the fundies cracked down on the theater group, which
> would be too bad in my opinion.
I went to 'Southern, and my work-study job was theatrical costuming. If you
remember the theatre from the days of Arnie Powell, you can well imagine we
made some "interesting" items. That was a long time ago though, and I don't
know how much my have changed. Certainly I was unhappy to learn that the
church arsonists came from 'Southern.
> No one at Southern would be likely to go to Jasper. I don't go back;
> that's for sure.
Just about my very best friend from that time, and Joe's too, was from
Cordova. I don't know that I ever went to Jasper, but spent some good
times at Harry's mother's house. One of my freshman year dorm floor-mates
married a frend from HS. Both were piano majors. Did you know any Hyches?
> When did you start posting under "Carrie?"
Happens when am at my mother's house on her computer. She is Carrie.
> Making those at home would mean that I would have a great desert
> available entirely too often. My simple rule: "Only eat GREAT deserts,
> only have virtual booze," keeps me from being even heavier. However, I
> will put the recipe aside for those times when I break the simple rule:
> when the need to celebrate or commemorate over-rules the need to keep
> the rule. Usually that calls for actual, rather than virtual, Wild
> Turkey but a banana pudding would be good too. Instead or first.
Make it when you have company, so you don't have it sitting around waiting
for you to eat it all. Banana pudding is always good for a "covered dish"
or a make ahead for a casual dinner with compnay coming. I try never to
make big batch of sweets unless I expect lots of help finishing them off.
Fortunately, I can keep the liquor on hand without getting in trouble. I am
a sipper, and not all that often. Just restocked the liquor cabinet with
the Glenlivet for Joe and Bushmills for me, plus something cheaper for
mixing.
--Dee
>