Not that I made much of a splash back then, but here I am again.
A small question that I have not been able to satisfactorily resolve. I just finished "Revolt in 2100". There is a reference to a couple of early 20th century philosophers at one point. I can't locate it again...yes I have tried.
I'll have to read the whole thing over again. Pleasant as that might be, I haven't the time.
Does anyone recall those names? Bonus points...were they real or fictional?
The reference was in the context of one of RAH's expository moments where he was pointing out ideas from the early 20th century that had been drowned out by competing ideas from Marxists and of course old Jeremiah Scudder his-own-self.
On Monday, September 10, 2012 3:12:09 PM UTC-5, deto...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hey Y'all,
> Not that I made much of a splash back then, but here I am again.
> A small question that I have not been able to satisfactorily resolve. I just finished "Revolt in 2100". There is a reference to a couple of early 20th century philosophers at one point. I can't locate it again...yes I have tried.
> I'll have to read the whole thing over again. Pleasant as that might be, I haven't the time.
> Does anyone recall those names? Bonus points...were they real or fictional?
> The reference was in the context of one of RAH's expository moments where he was pointing out ideas from the early 20th century that had been drowned out by competing ideas from Marxists and of course old Jeremiah Scudder his-own-self.
"Had the science of semantics developed as rapidly as psycho-dynamics and its implementing arts of propaganda and mob psychology, the United States might never have fallen into dictatorship, then been forced to undergo the Second Revolution. All of the scientific principles embodied in the Covenant which marked the end of the revolution were formulated as far back as the first quarter of the twentieth century.
But the work of the pioneer semanticists, C. K. Ogden, Alfred Korzybski, and others, were known to but a handful of students, whereas psycho-dynamics, under the impetus of repeated wars and the frenzy of high-pressure merchandising, progressed by leaps and bounds." - Coventry
-- Matt Hickman Man lives in a world of ideas. Any phenomenon is so complex that he cannot
possibly grasp the whole of it. He abstracts certain characteristics of a
given phenomenon as an idea, then represents that idea as a symbol, be it a
word or a mathematical sign. Human reaction is almost entirely reaction to
symbols, and only negligibly to phenomena. (Lentz)
Robert A. Heinlein (1907 - 1988)
"Blowups Happen" c. 1940 (ASF)
On Tuesday, September 11, 2012 5:32:01 PM UTC-4, (unknown) wrote:
> On Monday, September 10, 2012 3:12:09 PM UTC-5, deto...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Hey Y'all,
> > Not that I made much of a splash back then, but here I am again.
> > A small question that I have not been able to satisfactorily resolve. I just finished "Revolt in 2100". There is a reference to a couple of early 20th century philosophers at one point. I can't locate it again...yes I have tried.
> > I'll have to read the whole thing over again. Pleasant as that might be, I haven't the time.
> > Does anyone recall those names? Bonus points...were they real or fictional?
> > The reference was in the context of one of RAH's expository moments where he was pointing out ideas from the early 20th century that had been drowned out by competing ideas from Marxists and of course old Jeremiah Scudder his-own-self.
> "Had the science of semantics developed as rapidly as psycho-dynamics and its implementing arts of propaganda and mob psychology, the United States might never have fallen into dictatorship, then been forced to undergo the Second Revolution. All of the scientific principles embodied in the Covenant which marked the end of the revolution were formulated as far back as the first quarter of the twentieth century.
> But the work of the pioneer semanticists, C. K. Ogden, Alfred Korzybski, and others, were known to but a handful of students, whereas psycho-dynamics, under the impetus of repeated wars and the frenzy of high-pressure merchandising, progressed by leaps and bounds." - Coventry
> On Tuesday, September 11, 2012 5:32:01 PM UTC-4, (unknown) wrote:
> > On Monday, September 10, 2012 3:12:09 PM UTC-5, deto...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > Hey Y'all,
> > > Not that I made much of a splash back then, but here I am again.
> > > A small question that I have not been able to satisfactorily resolve. I just finished "Revolt in 2100". There is a reference to a couple of early 20th century philosophers at one point. I can't locate it again...yes I have tried.
> > > I'll have to read the whole thing over again. Pleasant as that might be, I haven't the time.
> > > Does anyone recall those names? Bonus points...were they real or fictional?
> > > The reference was in the context of one of RAH's expository moments where he was pointing out ideas from the early 20th century that had been drowned out by competing ideas from Marxists and of course old Jeremiah Scudder his-own-self.
> > "Had the science of semantics developed as rapidly as psycho-dynamics and its implementing arts of propaganda and mob psychology, the United States might never have fallen into dictatorship, then been forced to undergo the Second Revolution. All of the scientific principles embodied in the Covenant which marked the end of the revolution were formulated as far back as the first quarter of the twentieth century.
> > But the work of the pioneer semanticists, C. K. Ogden, Alfred Korzybski, and others, were known to but a handful of students, whereas psycho-dynamics, under the impetus of repeated wars and the frenzy of high-pressure merchandising, progressed by leaps and bounds." - Coventry
> Excellent! Thanks very much!
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> B/R,
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I think his reference to Ogden was specifically to Ogden and
Richards.The Meaning of Meaning (1923).
