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Harry Potter a ripoff from Spellcasting 101?

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zalzon

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May 24, 2004, 2:54:15 PM5/24/04
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In the early 90s, a company called Legend released a game called
Spellcasting 101. It was an adventure game where you were a boy who
living with an abusive father. You filled out an application for
Soucerer's University and escaped from your home. Basically lots of
interesting stuff happens when you are at university as you mess around
with magic. The game was written to be humourous as much as it was
adventurous.

What I noticed is that the concept was ripped off by this Harry potter
stuff.

Take a look at the box cover of the game. The main character in the game
even looks a little like harry potter.

http://www.waitingforgo.com/legend/s101/s101.bmp

Craig McMartin

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You. Die. Now!


BaronjosefR

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>> In the early 90s, a company called Legend released a game called
>> Spellcasting 101. It was an adventure game where you were a boy who
>> living with an abusive father. You filled out an application for
>> Soucerer's University and escaped from your home. Basically lots of
>> interesting stuff happens when you are at university as you mess around
>> with magic. The game was written to be humourous as much as it was
>> adventurous.
>>
>> What I noticed is that the concept was ripped off by this Harry potter
>> stuff.
>>
>> Take a look at the box cover of the game. The main character in the game
>> even looks a little like harry potter.
>>
>> http://www.waitingforgo.com/legend/s101/s101.bmp

Is that Hermione on the right?

Craig McMartin

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*spasms* You also die now!!

*points wand* Avada Kadavra!!


Zack Smith

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May 24, 2004, 5:48:00 PM5/24/04
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Heh. I thought this was a joke but it looks like a real game.

http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?id=1027


John VanSickle

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May 24, 2004, 7:24:49 PM5/24/04
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zalzon wrote:
>
> In the early 90s, a company called Legend released a game called
> Spellcasting 101. It was an adventure game where you were a boy who
> living with an abusive father. You filled out an application for
> Soucerer's University and escaped from your home. Basically lots of
> interesting stuff happens when you are at university as you mess around
> with magic. The game was written to be humourous as much as it was
> adventurous.
>
> What I noticed is that the concept was ripped off by this Harry potter
> stuff.

This is the active ingredient in Dungbombs.

The Legend people cannot claim that the concept of the wizard school was
theirs because the story idea has been around since, oh, The Earthsea
Trilogy, and wasn't a new idea then.

#1 Rule of Copyright: NOBODY OWNS IDEAS.

Regards,
John

Richard Eney

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May 24, 2004, 9:33:46 PM5/24/04
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In article <40B28441...@hotmail.com>,

John VanSickle <evilsna...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>zalzon wrote:
>>
>> In the early 90s, a company called Legend released a game called
>> Spellcasting 101. <snip> You filled out an application for

>> Soucerer's University and escaped from your home.
<snip>

>> What I noticed is that the concept was ripped off by this Harry potter
>> stuff.

>This is the active ingredient in Dungbombs.
>
>The Legend people cannot claim that the concept of the wizard school was
>theirs because the story idea has been around since, oh, The Earthsea
>Trilogy, and wasn't a new idea then.
>
>#1 Rule of Copyright: NOBODY OWNS IDEAS.

I see it's time to re-post the list of Wizard Schools. I've learned
of a couple more, anyway.

The first HP book was published in 1997; it was bought in 1996, JKR began
it in 1990. Regardless, nobody else saw it until part way through 1997.
So any book published in 1997 (which would also have been bought in 1996)
is totally and completely clear of any claims of having been influenced
by JKR. Furthermore, as John VanSickle wrote, the idea has been around
for a very long time. I've been collecting examples.

In reverse order, starting with 1997:

1997: Pierce, Tamora: "Circle of Magic" series begins with _Sandry's
Book_. kids go to a magic school where they live in a dormitory; there is
also a university of magic.

1996: Friesner, Esther: _Wishing Season_. Genies go to Genie School.
1995: Schweitzer, Darrell: _The Mask of the Sorcerer_. Students attend the
College of Shadows. not a kid's book, no way!
1995: Ball, Margaret: _Lost in Translation_. teen goes to the College of
Magical Arts and Sciences.
1994: Hambly, Barbara: _Stranger at the Wedding_ (in the UK, _Sorcerer's
Ward_) teen girl goes to the Citadel of Wizards magic school.
1994: Stevermer, Caroline: _A College of Magics_ teen girls attend
Greenlaw School for Witches.
1994: Bogen, K.B.: _Go Quest, Young Man_. teen goes to Sorcerer's
Apprentice School.
1993: Turtledove, Harry: _The Case of the Toxic Spell Dump_ mentions a
Professor Harvey Blanc, Chair of Goetic Sciences at the University of
California.
1993: Friesner, Esther: _Majyk by Accident_, a deliberately silly spoof of
the concept and the way some people mess around with the spelling of the
word, set at Thengor's Academy of High Wizardry.
1992: Modesitt, L.E.Jr.: _The Magic of Recluce_. The Brothers are ruled
by The Institute.
1992: Lisle, Holly: _Fire in the Mist_ The university of Women's Magic is
Daane University; the men's equivalent is Faulea University.
1991: Yolen, Jane: _Wizard's Hall_ takes place at, obviously, Wizard's
Hall.
1991: Brittain, C.Dale: _A Bad Spell in Yurt_, the unnamed wizard school
is at collegiate level.
1990: deCamp, L. Sprague: _Sir Harold and the Gnome King_, a completion of
his much earlier work The Compleat Enchanter, involving one scene at the
University of Unholy Names. (See 1941, Dr. John Clark, who wrote it up in
the 1930s)
1990: Doyle and Macdonald: "Circle of Magic" series (unrelated to Tamora
Pierce's later use of the same title), _School of Wizardry_, set at the
Schola Sorceriae at Tarnsberg.
1989: Tarr, Judith: _Ars Magica_ Pope Alexander II learns magic in tenth
century Spain, then founds a school with an Inner School for magic
lessons.
1988: Horowitz, Anthony: _Groosham Grange_, a boy finds out his new school
is a school of dark magic
1988: Wrede, Patricia and Caroline Stevermer: _Sorcery and Cecelia_
mentions a Royal College of Wizards.
1988: Kurland, Michael: _Ten Little Wizards_ continuation of Randall
Garrett's Lord Darcy series, mentions mantic arts courses. (See 1978)
1988: Jones, Diana Wynne: _The Lives of Christopher Chant_, he attends
Penge School, where he took the ordinary magic classes for ordinary kids,
along with English, maths, etc.
1987: Hawke, Simon: _The Wizard of 4th Street_. Merlin, freed after a
disaster, sets up wizard schools all over the world. The best book of the
series is _The Nine Lives of Catseye Gomez_
1987: Gilliland, Alexis: _Shadow Shaia_, 2nd volume of the Wizenbeak
trilogy. Dr. Wizenbeak studied with Dr. Raswisenji but the school alumni
society lost track of him when he stopped sending money.
1986: Friesner, Esther: _Harlot's Ruse_. the young man goes off to an
unnamed magic university.
1983: Pratchett, Terry: _The Colour of Magic_, the first book in his
Discworld series, mentions Unseen University and also unnamed universities
of magic, such as the one at Krull.
1982: Low, Alice: _Genie and the Witch's Spells_ book for small children,
a child trades spelling lessons for math lessons from a young witch who
was expelled from Witch School.
1979: Schweitzer, Darrell: short story "The Final? Murder? of Eleven
Thios?" - not a kid's story! - has a magic university on the Isle of
Sorcerers.
1978: Garrett, Randall: a song set in his Lord Darcy universe, "The Duke
of Normandy", ends with "I'll take him to the School of Sorcery".
1977: Jones, Diana Wynne: _Charmed Life_, and the rest of the Chrestomanci
series; Chrestomanci runs a small, private boarding school for top-class
wizards.
1974: Murphy, Jill: _The Worst Witch_. Miss Cackle's Academy for Witches.
a girls' boarding school series.
1971: Stewart, Mary: _The Little Broomstick_. a girl helps a black cat
rescue its brother.
1971: the movie version of Bedknobs and Broomsticks, loosely based on Mary
Norton's books, has a correspondence school for witchcraft that was not in
the books.
1968: LeGuin, Ursula: _A Wizard of Earthsea_. the young wizard attends
the School at Roke, a full-fledged boarding school of wizardry.

1941: deCamp, L.Sprague, and Fletcher Pratt: The Complete Enchanter. Duke
Astolph attended Winchester, which has Merlin on the Board of Trustees.

1941: Hubbard, L. Ron: "The Case of the Friendly Corpse", in _Unknown
Worlds_ magazine, used the magazine's standard school, the College of
Unholy Names, invented in the 1930s by Dr. John D. Clark and his friend
Mark Baldwin.
1938: White, T.H.: _The Sword in the Stone_ - the _first_ version, not the
rewrite - mentioned that Madame Mim had attended Dom-Daniel, the college
for Witches and Warlocks under the sea.

1897: Stoke, Bram: _Dracula_ Van Helsing says that Dracula had attended
the Scholamance school of Dark Arts, amongst the mountains over Lake
Hermanstadt, where the devil claims the tenth scholar as his due.

1850? Balzac, Honore de: _The Secret of Ruggier_. Ruggier attended a
secret university for the study of the occult sciences.
1797-1800: Southey, Robert: _Thalaba the Destroyer_, a long poem. In the
Preface to the fourth edition, he said that the continuation of the
Arabian Knights tales had mentioned the DomDaniel, a seminary for evil
magicians under the roots of the sea. Book Two Stanza 2: "In the
Domdaniel caverns, Under the Roots of the Ocean/ Met the masters of the
Spell."

14th-15th century: "The Four Sons of Aymon", one of the chansons de gestes
relating to Aymon and his cousin the necromancer Malagigi, probably based
on ballads about Charles the Bald and his men. Malagigi "learned his
black art in the famous school of Toledo."

=Tamar

Robyn, Duke of Amber

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May 25, 2004, 1:08:40 AM5/25/04
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On Mon, 24 May 2004 18:54:15 GMT, zalzon <zalzon...@zalll.com>
wrote:

>In the early 90s, a company called Legend released a game called
>Spellcasting 101. It was an adventure game where you were a boy who
>living with an abusive father. You filled out an application for
>Soucerer's University and escaped from your home. Basically lots of
>interesting stuff happens when you are at university as you mess around
>with magic. The game was written to be humourous as much as it was
>adventurous.


I'dd say no.
although Tim Hunter from the books of Magic would be more possible
: )

Can you imagine John Constantine screwing over Dumbledore?


Neil

Nwsy

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May 25, 2004, 4:00:05 AM5/25/04
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Richard Eney wrote:
>
>
> 14th-15th century: "The Four Sons of Aymon", one of the chansons de
> gestes relating to Aymon and his cousin the necromancer Malagigi,
> probably based on ballads about Charles the Bald and his men.
> Malagigi "learned his black art in the famous school of Toledo."
>


Well that one's an obvious ripoff. Chuh, she should track down the
descendants and sue their plagiarising asses.

--
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"It's a shame being stupid isn't painful"

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Toon

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May 25, 2004, 6:23:52 AM5/25/04
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On Mon, 24 May 2004 18:54:15 GMT, zalzon <zalzon...@zalll.com>
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>In the early 90s, a company called Legend released a game called

Looks like Alfred E. Newman and Harry had a kid together.
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May 25, 2004, 8:42:43 AM5/25/04
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Richard Eney wrote:

> In article <40B28441...@hotmail.com>,
> John VanSickle <evilsna...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> I see it's time to re-post the list of Wizard Schools. I've learned
> of a couple more, anyway.
>

excellent list; i have forwarded on my friends that appreciate HP. I
have to say that I had never heard of the concept before now, but I am
no great reader. You have to give it to JKR: she made the concept
generally popular as no author had ever done--at least to the general
public and no-great-readers like me.

dvh

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May 25, 2004, 8:46:51 AM5/25/04
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Richard Eney wrote:

> In article <40B28441...@hotmail.com>,
> John VanSickle <evilsna...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>

Also, I kept a pretty good list of recommended books from posts here.
Do you recommend any be added to list? A few are already on there.
(sorry to all that have dial up, as I know this is a long post.) Here
is list as stands now:

A.
Abbott, Tony, The Secrets of Droon Series
Adams, Douglas, Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy
Adams, Robert, The Horseclans Series
Aiken, Joan, The Wolves of Willoughby Chase
Alexander, Lloyd, the Prydain Chromicles.
Anderson, Hans Christen, any fairy tale by
Anthony, Piers, Blue Adept
Atwood, Margaret
The Robber Bride
Cat’s Eye
Asimov, Isaac anything but /End of Eternity
Asprin, Robert, MYTH Adventures
Auel, Jean, Earth's Children series
Austen, Jane, Pride and Prejudice
.
B.
.
Bang, Herman, anything by
Barron, T.A., the Lost Years of Merlin series.
Bellairs, John, Curse of the Blue Figurine
Bogen, K.: Go Quest, Young Man
Borges, Jorge Luis, short book on mythical animals
Brin, David, Uplift trilogies
Bradley, Marion Zimmer, Darkover series
Brust, Steven, Issola
Bujold, Lois M., Warrior's Apprentice
Burnette, Frances Hodgeson, The Secret Garden
Burroughs, Edgar Rice, The John Carter novels
.
C.
.
Card, Orson Scott
Speaker For The Dead
Enders Game
Carroll, Leo, Alice in Wonderland & through the looking glass
Cervantes, Don Quixote
Chalker, Jack, The Well World Series
Christie, Agatha, anything
Claney, Tom, Jack Ryan series
Clavelle, James, Tai Pan
Cleary, Beverly, Anything by
Colfer, Eoin, Artemis Fowl
Cooper, Susan, The Dark Is Rising" (five books)
Covenant, Thomas, Chronicles of
Cross, Gillian, The Demon Headmaster
.
D.
.
Dahl, Roald, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory
decamp, L. Sprague, anything.
Dolgun, Alexander, An American in the Gulag
Doyle, Conan, Sherlock Holmes books
Dunnett, Dorothy, Lymond series
Duane, Diane, Young Wizards series
so you want to be a wizard book 1 1983
deep wizardry book 2 '85
high wizardry book 3 '90
a wizard abroad book 4 '93
The Wizard's Dilemma book 5 '01
the book night with moon book 1 '99
To Visit the Queen book 2 '00
A Wizard Alone (Book Six)
Wizard's Holiday (Book Seven)
Dumas, Alexandre
The Three Musketeers
The Count of Monte Cristo
La Reine Margot
.
E.
.
Eco, Umberto, Focult's Pendulum
Eddings, david and leigh,
the belgariad
malorian,( both are series)
polgra the sorceress
belgarath the sorcerer (prequels to the series)
Ellroy, James, American Tabloid
Ende, Michael
The Neverending Story
Eager, Edward
Half Magic
Magic By The Lake
The Story of the Amulet

F.
.
Feist, Ray, the Krondor/Riftwar books
Forward, Robert L., Flight of the Dragon Fly
Foster, Allen Dean, Spell singer Series
Friesner, Ester
Mustafa and His Wise Dog
Chicks In Chainmail
Harpy High
Gnome Man's Land
Funke, Cornelia, The Thief Lord
.
G.
.
Gaiman, Neil
Coraline
Stardust
Good Omens (co authored with Terry Pratchett)
American Gods
Gallico, Paul, Manx Mouse
Garner, Alan
The Weirdstone of Brisingamen
The Moon of Gomrath
The Owl Service
Garrett, Randall
Lord Darcy
Too Many Magicians
Gibson, William
Johnny Mnemonic
Neuromancer
Gliori, Debi,
Pure dead magic
pure dead wicked
Goodkind, Terry
Grahame, Kenneth, The Wind in the Willow
Gray, Martin, For Those I loved
.
H.
.
Haddon, Mark, The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-time
Hardy, Lyndon, Master of the Five Magics.
Heller, Joseph, Catch 22
Hemingway, Ernest, The Sun Also Rises
Herbert, Frank, Dune
Holdstock, Robert, The Mythago wood cycle
Hougan, James, Spooks
Howard, Linda, Shades of Twilight

Hugo, Victor
Les Miserables
Notre Dame de Paris (AKA the Hunchback of Notre Dame)

Huxley, Aldous, Brave New World
.
I.
.
J.
.
Jackson, Brenda, Delaney's Desert Sheikh

Jansson, Tove, Moomintrolls
Jones, Diana Wynne Jones
The Chrestomanci series
Deep Secret
Howl's Moving Castle
The Magicians of Caprona
Witch Week
Charmed Life
The Lives of Christopher Chant
Archer's Goon
Howl's Moving Castle
Jordan, Robert, Wheel of Time
Joy, Dara, High Energy
.
K.
.
Klause, Anette Curtis, The Silver Kiss
King, Stephen
The Stand
It
Krentz, Jayne Ann
Jayne Castle
Amanda Quick
.
L.
.
Lee, Harper, To kill a mockingbird
LeGuin, Ursula
A Wizard of Earthsea
The Tombs of Atuan
The Farthest Shore
Tehanu
L’Engle, Madeleine
A Wrinkle in Time
A Wind at the Door
A Swiftly Tilting Planet
Many Waters
Lewis, C.S.
Anything by
Chronicles of Narnia
Lewis, Roy, Evolution Man
Lindgren, Astrid
Mio My Son
The Brothers Lionheart
Jacqueline Lichtenberg and Jean Lorrah, Sime-Gen" series
Lovecraft, H.P.
The Lurking Fear and Other Stories
Anything by
Lowry, Lois, The Giver
.
M.
Mailer, Norman, Naked and the Dead
McCaffrey, Anne
the Pern books, such as
dragon Riders of Pern,
White Dragon,
Dragondrums
Crystal Singer Series
Talent Series
McKiernan, Dennis, the Mithgar books
McMurty, Larry, Lonesome Dove
Martel, Yann, Life of Pi
Martin, George RR, A Song of Ice and Fire
Martin, J.P., Tales of Uncle the Elephant
May, Julian, Pliocene Exile, Intervention and Galactic Milieu series
Michener, James, Chesapeake
Molnar, Ferenc, The boys of pal street
Moorcock, Michael
any earlier works
Champion at the End of Time books
(Corum, Count Brass, and Elric).
Murphy, Jill, Worst Witch
Michael Kurland: Ten Little Wizards
.
N.
.
Nesbit E.
Five Children And It
The Railway Children
Nicholson, William
The Wind Singer
Fire song
Norton, Mary, Bed knobs and Broomsticks
.
O.
Orwell, George
Animal Farm
Nineteen Eighty Four
.
P.
.
Paterson, Katherine, Bridge to Terabithia
Payson, Albert
Terhune's dog books such as
Lad: A dog, Lad of Sunnybank
The Heart of a dog
Treve
The critter
Further Adventures of Lad
Piers, Anthony
Blue Adept
Incarnations of Immortality Series
Pratchett, Terry
Discworld Series:
1. The Colour of Magic, the rest are (in order)
2. Light Fantastic
3. Equal Rites
4. Mort
5. Sourcery
6. Wyrd Sisters
7. Pyramids
8. Guards! Guards!
9. Eric
10. Moving Pictures
11. Reaper Man
12. Witches Abroad
13. Small Gods
14. Lords and Ladies
15. Men at Arms
16. Soul Music
17. Interesting Times
18. Maskerade
19. Feet of Clay
20. Hogfather
21. Jingo
22. Last Continent
23. Carpe Jugulum
24. The Fifth Elephant
25. The Truth
26. The last hero
Monstrous Regiment,
related books about Discworld.
The Discworld Companion
Science of the Discworld II:
the Globe
Thief of Time
Carpe Jugulum
The Wee Free Men
The Last Continent
The Amazing Maurice and His Educated Rodents
TAMAHER
We Free Men
The Bromeliad (The Nomes Trilogy):
Only You Can Save Mankind
Johnny and the Dead
Johnny and the Bomb
Other sci fi
TRUCKERS
DIGGERS
WINGS
Strata
The Dark Side of The Sun
The Unadulterated Cat
Good Omens (with Neil Gaiman)
The Carpet People
Pratt, Fletcher Pratt and decamp, L. Sprague, The Complete Compleat
Enchanter
Pryce, Malcolm,
Aberystwyth Mon Amour
Last Tango in Aberystwyth
Pullman, Phillip
His Dark Materials Triology
The Ruby in the Smoke
The Shadow in the North
The Tiger in the Well
The Tin Princess
.
Q.
.
R.
Rand, Ayn, Atlas Shrugged
Reichs, Kathy, The Temperance Brennan set
Rodda, Emily, the Deltora Quest series
Roth, Henry, Call It Sleep
Rowling, J.K.
Sorceror’s Stone
Prisoner of Azkaban
Order of the Phoenix
Goblet of Fire
Chamber of Secrets
S.
Sachar, Louis, Holes
Sala, Sharon, Sweet Baby
Salvator, R.A., The Dark Elf books
Sayers, Dorothy
Peter Wimsey and short stories
The Nine Taylors
Scherfig, Hans, Anything by
Sendak, Maurice, Where the Wild Things Are
Shute, Nevil
What Ever Happened to the Corbett's
Trustee from the Toolroom
Smith, E.E., The Lensman series
Smith, Thorne, Night life of the gods
Sterling, Bruce
Schismatrix
Islands In The Net
Stevenson, Robert Louis, Treasure Island
Sturluson, Snorri, The Eddas
Swanwick, Michael
Iron Dragon's Daughter
.
T.
.
Takahashi, Rumiko, Inu Yasha
Tan, Amy
Joy Luck Club
Kitchen God’s Wife
Tolkien, J.R.R.
Lord of the Rings
The Hobbit
Trillin, Calvin, One of the "tummy trilogy" (from Kansas City, now New York)
Tyler, Anne, The Accidential Tourist
Twain, Mark, The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn.
.
U.
V.
Vance, Jack, anything Vance.
Verne, Jules, anything
Vonnegut, Kurt, Breakfast of Champions
.
W.
.
Weis, Margaret and Hickman, Tracy, Dragon lance Chronicles and Legends.
Williams, Tad
The Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn series
Otherland
White, T.H., The sword in the stone (the once and future king)
Willis, Connie, To Say Nothing Of The Dog
Windling, Terry, Borderlands series
Wolfe, Gene, Soldier of the Mist and Soldier of Arete
Wrede, Patricia
Mairelon the Magician
4 books in the Dragons series
Wren, MK
The Phoenix Legacy:
(Sword of the Lamb, Shadow of the Swan, House of
the Wolf)
X.
Y.
Z.
Zelazny, Roger, The ten Chronicles of Amber books
.
unknown authors:
.
The Bible
The Histories by Herodotus. Ostensibly a history of the war between
Persia and the Greeks in the 5th century BCE
The Icelandic Sagas

To add:
The Sound and the Fury_ (William Faulkner), _In the Name of the Rose_
(Umberto Eco), _Journey to the West_ (Wu Cheng'en), _<insert any title
here>_ (Virginia Woolf), _Candide_ (Voltaire), _Romance of the Three
Kingdoms_ (Lou Guanzhong), _Dream of the Red Mansion_ (Cao Xueqin),
_Beauty_/_Rose Daughter_ (Robin McKinley).

A

Alex Clark

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> >> http://www.waitingforgo.com/legend/s101/s101.bmp
>
> Is that Hermione on the right?

No way. That's Pansy Parkinson after she had her "magic surgery".

Or else it's Narcissa after an overdose of Cheering Charms.

--
Alex Clark

Rare old mold vomit (an anagram rejected by Tom Riddle)

djl

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On Tue, 25 May 2004 12:46:51 GMT, dvh <henn...@swbell.net> wrote:

Add Zelazny, Roger:
Dilvish the Damned
The Changing Land
Roadmarks
Jack of Shadows
Lord of Light
Isle of the Dead
You really cannot go wrong with anything written by Zelazney. The books
published after he died were not as good as his earlier work including the
Amber and Chaos series.

CDriver333

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It's actually a look forward to Harry's college years...


Richard Eney

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In article <%eHsc.417$Yl3...@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com>,
dvh <henn...@swbell.net> wrote:

>Also, I kept a pretty good list of recommended books from posts here.
>Do you recommend any be added to list? A few are already on there.

<snips>

I've corrected some spellings and added some books.

>Aiken, Joan, The Wolves of Willoughby Chase

There are quite a few others by her, also very good. The Wolves book is
the first one in her series set in an alternate universe in which the
Stuarts remained on the throne in England. _The Stolen Lake_ gives a very
odd look at King Arthur.

>Bellairs, John, Curse of the Blue Figurine

He wrote three different series for children, each with several books.
The continuations after he died weren't as good. Another book he wrote
that I recommend is _The Face in the Frost_.

Blaylock, James:
Land of Dreams
The Elfin Ship
The Disappearing Dwarf
The Stone Giant

Boyer, Elizabeth:
The Sword and the Satchel
The Elves and the Otterskin
The Thrall and the Dragon's Heart
The Wizard and the Warlord
The Troll's Grindstone
The Curse of Slagfid
The Lord of Chaos

>Brin, David, Uplift trilogies
also by Brin: _The Practice Effect_

>Bujold, Lois M., Warrior's Apprentice

also the other books in the Miles Vorkosigan series

>Card, Orson Scott
> Speaker For The Dead
> Enders Game

Ender's Game is the first book.

>Chalker, Jack, The Well World Series

The first three books are the best. The first one is
_Midnight at the Well of Souls_.

Cuppy, Will: How to Tell Your Friends From the Apes

Dickson, Gordon: The Dragon and the George

>Eco, Umberto, Focult's Pendulum

I believe it's _Foucault's Pendulum_

>Eddings, david and leigh,
> the belgariad
> malorian,( both are series)

_The Mallorean_

> polgra the sorceress

Polgara

> belgarath the sorcerer (prequels to the series)

>Friesner, Ester


> Mustafa and His Wise Dog

Mustapha
add:
The Water King's Laughter
Spells of Mortal Weaving
The Witchwood Cradle

>Hardy, Lyndon, Master of the Five Magics.

There are two sequels:
Secret of the Sixth Magic
Riddle of the Seven Realms


Hodgell, P.C.: Godstalk

Hughart, Barry:
Bridge of Birds
and the two sequels

>Jansson, Tove, Moomintrolls

Any of the series, but I particularly recommend
_Moominland Midwinter_

>Jones, Diana Wynne Jones
> The Chrestomanci series

is:


> The Lives of Christopher Chant

> Charmed Life


> The Magicians of Caprona
> Witch Week

Others by her include:

> Deep Secret
> Howl's Moving Castle

> Archer's Goon


Kendall, Carol:
The Minnipins (in the US, The Gammage Cup)
The Whisper of Glocken

Lafferty, R.A.:
900 Grandmothers (a collection of short stories)

>LeGuin, Ursula
> A Wizard of Earthsea
> The Tombs of Atuan
> The Farthest Shore
> Tehanu

and there's a fifth book out now.

>L脱ngle, Madeleine

l'Engle

McKillip, Patricia:
Riddle of Stars trilogy:
(The Riddlemaster of Hed, Heir of Sea and Fire, Harpist in the Wind)
The Forgotten Beasts of Eld

Niven, Larry: The Flight of the Horse

>Pratchett, Terry
> The Wee Free Men
this is a misspelling of the above: We Free Men

the sequel, A Hat Full of Sky
has just been released in the UK

> The Amazing Maurice and His Educated Rodents

this is an abbreviation for the above: TAMAHER

> The Bromeliad (The Nomes Trilogy):

is the all-in-one title for these three books:
> TRUCKERS
> DIGGERS
> WINGS

Schmitz, James: The Witches of Karres

Simak, Clifford: The Goblin Reservation

>Vance, Jack, anything Vance.

Especially _The Dying Earth_

Watt-Evans, Lawrence:
With A Single Spell
The Misenchanted Sword
The Unwilling Warlord

>Willis, Connie, To Say Nothing Of The Dog

anything by her. She has a very wide range.

Wodehoue, P.G.: Cocktail Time
and anything else, really,
especially if it has "Jeeves" or "Wooster" in the title

>Wrede, Patricia
> Mairelon the Magician

> 4 books in the Dragons series:

Dealing with Dragons
Searching for Dragons
Calling on Dragons
Talking to Dragons

Sorcery and Cecelia (with C. Stevermer as co-author)

>Zelazny, Roger, The ten Chronicles of Amber books

I second the recommendation of anything by Zelazny. A few of his
later works are minor, but most are excellent.

=Tamar

snark^

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=>> The runes were cast, the portents thundered and then djl
warbled on about "good books to add to list" in a.f.h-p <<=

> You really cannot go wrong with anything written by Zelazney. The books
> published after he died were not as good as his earlier work including the
> Amber and Chaos series.

Note the same cannot be said of Elron Hubbard... that his works written
when he walked this earth weren't good enough to use a toilet paper only
merely hints at the quality of those which have slithered and lurched
into the shelves since his demise.

--
Up the airy mountain, Down the rushing glen,
We daren't go a-hunting; For fear of little men.
-- William Allingham, _The Fairies_

dvh

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done.

dvh

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done.

Richard Eney wrote:

>>L’Engle, Madeleine

Alex Clark

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dic...@radix.net (Richard Eney) wrote in message news:<10b8l13...@corp.supernews.com>...

> McKillip, Patricia:
> Riddle of Stars trilogy:
> (The Riddlemaster of Hed, Heir of Sea and Fire, Harpist in the Wind)
> The Forgotten Beasts of Eld

Most likely this list of recommended writings could reasonably be
expanded to include everything she ever wrote, with the possible
exception of shopping lists. I haven't gotten to all her books yet,
but I have yet to find one that I thought was not worth reading.

--
Alex Clark

Drat mom idol lover (an anagram rejected by Tom Riddle)

ash

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"snark^" <snark...@tulgeywook.org> wrote in message
news:tc09b0h529hdf5veo...@4ax.com...

> =>> The runes were cast, the portents thundered and then djl
> warbled on about "good books to add to list" in a.f.h-p <<=
>
> > You really cannot go wrong with anything written by Zelazney. The books
> > published after he died were not as good as his earlier work including
the
> > Amber and Chaos series.
>
> Note the same cannot be said of Elron Hubbard... that his works written
> when he walked this earth weren't good enough to use a toilet paper only
> merely hints at the quality of those which have slithered and lurched
> into the shelves since his demise.

Most of the ones published after his death were not written by him but by
the Scientology PR Machine cashing in.


Todd Martin

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L. Ron Hubbard was a psychopath. He worshipped aliens and based his religion
around us evolving from clams. He also made wild claims of being a war hero,
only problem was he never enlisted in the military in his entire life. His
cult is on a massive campaign against mental health institutions because
they think they are evil. When the 911 attack happened all the scientology
lunatics in the area ran to the scene set up a tent and started "touch
therapy" for the victims.

Wanna know more?
http://www.xenu.net/


On 5/26/04 9:16 AM, in article c92ft...@news1.newsguy.com, "ash"
<ashwin...@grimauldplace.net> wrote:

--
I know what you're thinking about but it isn't so, no how. Contrariwise, if
it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it
ain't. That's logic."

richard e white

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John VanSickle wrote:

I have read works that talk about wizard schools that where writen in the
1400 and they thought it was an old idea.

--
Richard The Blind Typer
Lets Hear It For Talking Computers.


Eric Bohlman

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Todd Martin <to...@iamblue.net> wrote in
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> L. Ron Hubbard was a psychopath. He worshipped aliens and based his
> religion around us evolving from clams. He also made wild claims of
> being a war hero, only problem was he never enlisted in the military
> in his entire life. His cult is on a massive campaign against mental

Actually, he did in fact serve in the Navy briefly during WWII; he had a
very minor command, of which he was relieved for incompetence (such as
ordering his boat to fire at islands inhabited only by wild goats, and at
magnetic deposits that he insisted were submarines).

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