Hiding among the muggles
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when the trio was hiding from the deatheaters... why didn't they hide among
the muggles?
Bellatrix & Narcissa hated to go into a muggle town to see Snape. There just
weren't that many DEs and with there hatred of muggle communities the
chances of being spotted in a muggle town by a DE would be slim.
mag3
Nontheless, if Voldie ordered them to go, they would do it. If HP were somehow
detected in a muggle community that place would be flooded with DE's immediately
hatred or not.... Might even make them search harder/faster and be "meaner"
about it. That's the worst thing the HP Trio could do. I'd imagine there'd be a lot
more muggle deaths if this were to happen. Harry & Co. did the muggles a
favor by staying away.
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Arnold
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I agree that the DE would go to any muggle village if Voldie told them to...
I just think they would not be found in the first place..
I also agree that hiding with the muggles would put the muggles in danger
but Harry not winning would put ALL muggles in danger.
BriD
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You don't get a more muggle venue than Tottenham Court Road. Perhaps
their meeting DE's there put them off the idea!
BriD
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BriD
very likely but it shouldn't have... they were "follow" to Tottenham Court
Road... once they were free of the DE a muggle community would have served
them well... if nothing else they could have openly bought food.
scenario_dave
Doesn't the MOM look for magic done in muggle areas? If they used
magic it would show up like a beacon that there was a wizard there.
They could use the reasourses of the MoM to track them.
Thommadura
While it seems at first glance to be wrong to hide among the muggles - I
would go back to Goddrichs(SP) Hollow - where the Potter's lived - but
was also a muggle town as well. Also - While it would have been hard to
find it - the Black residence was also in a muggle neighborhood too.
THen of course - where would Hermione go =- since she was a muggle born.
DaveD
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Godric's Hollow was one of those villages/towns with a small magical
population; nothing like Hogsmead which is totally magical but more than
most villages, I think. As a result, I think it would be risky there as
there'd be more chance of someone magical seeing and recognising them and
word leaking out. A large town or anonymous city with almost no magical
population would be best as there'd be fewer people to see them.
But Hermione could stay with the others, not sure why being muggle-born
would matter one way or another, except she'd have no relatives of her own
but I'm sure anyone who sheltered Harry and Ron would be happy to shelter
Hermione. After all, the only anti-muggleborns would also see Harry and Ron
as blood traitors or other enemies :)
DaveD
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>But Hermione could stay with the others, not sure why being muggle-born
>would matter one way or another, except she'd have no relatives of her own
>but I'm sure anyone who sheltered Harry and Ron would be happy to shelter
>Hermione. After all, the only anti-muggleborns would also see Harry and Ron
>as blood traitors or other enemies :)
Well, not the Durselys. The Weaselys would.
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And stick out like sore thumbs ?
I'm sure it had been mentioned that magic shows itself, hence muggles being
invited to Hogwarts.
Thommadura
If the MOM was able to identify magic being done by underage wizards -
then the DE's would also have that ability. That would make it hard for
them to hide anywhere - much less in muggle areas.
I still have a problem with that one - since I believe that if the MOM
could detect underage magic - then they could also detect ALL MAGIC.
THey simply did not respond to wizards of age. It would make no sense to
be able to one and not the other.
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> If the MOM was able to identify magic being done by underage wizards -
> then the DE's would also have that ability. That would make it hard for
> them to hide anywhere - much less in muggle areas.
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> I still have a problem with that one - since I believe that if the MOM
> could detect underage magic - then they could also detect ALL MAGIC. THey
> simply did not respond to wizards of age. It would make no sense to be
> able to one and not the other.
I'm mixed on this one... my gut reaction is the same "if the MOM could
detect underage magic - then they could also detect ALL MAGIC"
I think the problem is that Rowling contradicts herself on this.
Rowling at times seems to make "the trace" as something set in reality...
unchangeable by good or bad wizards. Ron who has no trouble breaking rules
doesn't do magic in a house full of wizards.
but at it stated that MOM can detect magic but not who is doing it [which is
why Harry was blamed for Dobby's magic]
but in book 5, it was known that Harry did magic when he did it at least a
block from his house but...
when the order were bringing Harry secretly to #12... the order did magic
and no owls came.
there's also the question of how they find wizards of muggles parents like
Tom [who was in a muggle orphanage] and Hermione.
we also had Slughorn, who was in hiding, freely doing magic in a muggle
place. we also in the last book have the trio and other wizards in hiding
doing magic in non-wizard places.
I think Rowling has too much contradictions to make sense of it all
Toon
I think it depends on proximity to Muggles. If they're not around to
see it (and it depends on what spell is used), it doesn't trigger the
detectors. By the last book, I'm not sure the rules even applied. I'm
sure the DE's could care less if Muggles saw magic, since they wanted
to kill them all off anyway.
mag3
>I think it depends on proximity to Muggles. If they're not around to
>see it (and it depends on what spell is used), it doesn't trigger the
>detectors. By the last book, I'm not sure the rules even applied.
I thought it was also an "underage" thing. And since they were all "of age"
in the last book, the restriction would be lifted.
I'm of the belief that this was a "convenience device" for JKR to be used
when needed, even if continuity could not be maintained. And that's OK.
I think the point is that there are times and circumstances where magic
is best not used and/or could cause problems, and that kids should learn
what those are before they're allowed to use it unrestricted.
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Regards,
Arnold