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John Vreeland
Mar 27, 2012, 11:32:38 PM3/27/12
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This is a "Chapter OF The Week*" for A Song of Ice and Fire by George
R R. Martin
*week = occasionally when I feel like it. Much like the books.
Jon 2
This chapter is largely left over from where it should have been in
the previous book. A bit of exposition, some surprises are set up
that we already know about, etc. One gets the impression that a bit
was cut out as being redundant or perhaps lacking in impact.
It begins with Jon agonizing over a letter he is sending to the Iron
Throne. Eventually Sam will arrive and provide the exposition to this
mysterious missive, but before then we hear...no, actually Dolorous
Edd is actually only described as muttering in his usual fashion and
so we are spared his tiresome drivel for once.
Gilly the wildling comes in and Jon does a decent job of explaining to
the unwilling girl what she must do to save the babies, though the
details of the plan are skipped over here, as they would have been in
the original version, probably. But in any event we already know
them.
Perhaps as foreshadowing Jon has her hold her hand over a candle to
experience the pain of burning. This was what helped convince her to
obey, but there will be more burning.
Sam then arrives as she is leaving, gets bitten by Mormont's awful
crow, and convinces Jon that the letter he is sending to the
Lannisters describing why and how they are dealing with Stannis will
serve as a paper shield in the event that Stannis is defeated by them.
Sam rambles for a while, but Jon finally gets him to spit out what he
has learned about the others. During the Age of Heroes the children of
the forest would give the Night's Watch 100 obsidian daggers every
year, but nothing else that was not already known or known to be
mysterious. The references to "giant ice spiders" was something that
Sam could not explain.
How to fight them?
"The armor of the Others is proof against most ordinary blades, if
the tales can be believed, and their own swords are so cold they
shatter steel. Fire will dismay them, though, and they are
vulnerable to obsidian. I found one account of the Long Night that
spoke of the last hero slaying Others with a blade of dragonsteel.
Supposedly they could not stand against it.” “Dragonsteel?” The
term was new to Jon. “Valyrian steel?”
Then Jon tells Sam the he and Gilly and Maester Amon are going to
Oldtown. Sam balks, fearing his father's disapproval, but Jon repeats
a refrain in his own head that he used earlier but now is beginning to
make sense, "kill the boy, kill the boy inside you."
When he had last spoken to Aemon, the old maester told him this:
"Kill the boy within you, I told him the day I took ship for the
Wall. It takes a man to rule. An Aegon, not an Egg. Kill the boy
and let the man be born.” The old man felt Jon’s face. “You are
half the age that Egg was, and your own burden is a crueler one, I
fear. You will have little joy of your command, but I think you
have the strength in you to do the things that must be done. Kill
the boy, Jon Snow. Winter is almost upon us. Kill the boy and let
the man be born.”
So they said their goodbyes and Sam and Aemon and Gilly and the boy
prince traveled back in time to the previous book, but that's for
another chapter.
Aside, Aemon mentions a chapter that he marked for Jon in the Jade
Compendium, a book by a man who had traveled to Ashai. I cannot recall
if we ever learned what was in it.
Finally, Jon leaves the previous book behind and gets on with this
one. He instructs "Giant" Bedwyck, an illiterate poache rwho is a
seasoned veteran of much of the Wall's troubles, to take over one of
the old castles, Icemark. With him will go four of the Kingslanders
who arrived with Janos Slynt. Jon means to put eyes all along the Wall
if he can.
In the days of Jon's great-great grandfather a King-Beyond-the-Wall
named Raymun Redbeard came over the top in force, so that "Jolly" Jack
Musgood, the Lord Commander at the time, was forever known as "Sleepy"
Jack for arriving at the battle after William Stark and the Umbers had
already finished off the wildlings. There would be no "Sleepy" Jon
Snow.
So, Giant was geting Icemark, and Janos Slynt was getting Greyguard
and thirty men. But the kingslander did not like it at all, oh no.
Slynt refused, not understanding, so in the morning when it was time
for Slynt to depart Jon went into the mess and ordered him to go
again. Sitting with Alliser Thorne and cronies, again, he refused. So
Jon ordered him taken outside and hanged.**
Slynt started blubbering like a baby, and Jon annoyed everyone for a
moment when he called a halt to the proceedings, but it was just to
change the method of execution to one more proper to Slynt's station.
“I will not hang him,” said Jon. “Bring him here.” “Oh, Seven save
us,” he heard Bowen Marsh cry out. The smile that Lord Janos Slynt
smiled then had all the sweetness of rancid butter. Until Jon
said, “Edd, fetch me a block,” and unsheathed Longclaw.
then some time was spent find a block and then dragging Slynt out
from the winch cage where he had tried to escape. (The winch cage?
Interesting choice.)
Janos Slynt twisted his neck around to stare up at him. “Please, my
lord. Mercy. I’ll … I’ll go, I will, I …” No, thought Jon. You
closed that door. Longclaw descended. “Can I have his boots?”
asked Owen the Oaf, as Janos Slynt’s head went rolling across the
muddy ground. “They’re almost new, those boots. Lined with fur.”
Jon glanced back at Stannis. For an instant their eyes met. Then
the king nodded and went back inside his tower.
** Not hung. He is not a tapestry, after all. Though he looked like
a pasty pastry when he realized he ws about to be executed.
Of course Stannis never liked Slynt, but was willing to work with the
horrid man if he had to under the rules of the Wall, which wipe away a
man's prior sins. But some people take no advantage of that and
remain the same pricks they had always been. Seriously, what did
Alliser Thorne see in him?
And now Jon Snow needs someone else for Greyguard. WHo does he have
left?
So, it was a dreary chapter, with little humor. Even dolorour Edd was
just going through the motions. "Edd here. Dreary dreary blagh. Don't
worry, if you aren't me things cannot be too bad for you."
There wasn't much of any titillating going on, either, though I was
distracted by memories of something else. Not sure if that counts.
Probably not. Sam was distracted, too, by the silliest talk of wet
nurses. I find it hard to laugh at him, though.
And Janos Slynt got his head chopped off. Everything else was just
filler.
--
Some aspects of life would be a lot easier if Creationists were required to carry warning signs. Fortunately, many of them already do.
R R. Martin
*week = occasionally when I feel like it. Much like the books.
Jon 2
This chapter is largely left over from where it should have been in
the previous book. A bit of exposition, some surprises are set up
that we already know about, etc. One gets the impression that a bit
was cut out as being redundant or perhaps lacking in impact.
It begins with Jon agonizing over a letter he is sending to the Iron
Throne. Eventually Sam will arrive and provide the exposition to this
mysterious missive, but before then we hear...no, actually Dolorous
Edd is actually only described as muttering in his usual fashion and
so we are spared his tiresome drivel for once.
Gilly the wildling comes in and Jon does a decent job of explaining to
the unwilling girl what she must do to save the babies, though the
details of the plan are skipped over here, as they would have been in
the original version, probably. But in any event we already know
them.
Perhaps as foreshadowing Jon has her hold her hand over a candle to
experience the pain of burning. This was what helped convince her to
obey, but there will be more burning.
Sam then arrives as she is leaving, gets bitten by Mormont's awful
crow, and convinces Jon that the letter he is sending to the
Lannisters describing why and how they are dealing with Stannis will
serve as a paper shield in the event that Stannis is defeated by them.
Sam rambles for a while, but Jon finally gets him to spit out what he
has learned about the others. During the Age of Heroes the children of
the forest would give the Night's Watch 100 obsidian daggers every
year, but nothing else that was not already known or known to be
mysterious. The references to "giant ice spiders" was something that
Sam could not explain.
How to fight them?
"The armor of the Others is proof against most ordinary blades, if
the tales can be believed, and their own swords are so cold they
shatter steel. Fire will dismay them, though, and they are
vulnerable to obsidian. I found one account of the Long Night that
spoke of the last hero slaying Others with a blade of dragonsteel.
Supposedly they could not stand against it.” “Dragonsteel?” The
term was new to Jon. “Valyrian steel?”
Then Jon tells Sam the he and Gilly and Maester Amon are going to
Oldtown. Sam balks, fearing his father's disapproval, but Jon repeats
a refrain in his own head that he used earlier but now is beginning to
make sense, "kill the boy, kill the boy inside you."
When he had last spoken to Aemon, the old maester told him this:
"Kill the boy within you, I told him the day I took ship for the
Wall. It takes a man to rule. An Aegon, not an Egg. Kill the boy
and let the man be born.” The old man felt Jon’s face. “You are
half the age that Egg was, and your own burden is a crueler one, I
fear. You will have little joy of your command, but I think you
have the strength in you to do the things that must be done. Kill
the boy, Jon Snow. Winter is almost upon us. Kill the boy and let
the man be born.”
So they said their goodbyes and Sam and Aemon and Gilly and the boy
prince traveled back in time to the previous book, but that's for
another chapter.
Aside, Aemon mentions a chapter that he marked for Jon in the Jade
Compendium, a book by a man who had traveled to Ashai. I cannot recall
if we ever learned what was in it.
Finally, Jon leaves the previous book behind and gets on with this
one. He instructs "Giant" Bedwyck, an illiterate poache rwho is a
seasoned veteran of much of the Wall's troubles, to take over one of
the old castles, Icemark. With him will go four of the Kingslanders
who arrived with Janos Slynt. Jon means to put eyes all along the Wall
if he can.
In the days of Jon's great-great grandfather a King-Beyond-the-Wall
named Raymun Redbeard came over the top in force, so that "Jolly" Jack
Musgood, the Lord Commander at the time, was forever known as "Sleepy"
Jack for arriving at the battle after William Stark and the Umbers had
already finished off the wildlings. There would be no "Sleepy" Jon
Snow.
So, Giant was geting Icemark, and Janos Slynt was getting Greyguard
and thirty men. But the kingslander did not like it at all, oh no.
Slynt refused, not understanding, so in the morning when it was time
for Slynt to depart Jon went into the mess and ordered him to go
again. Sitting with Alliser Thorne and cronies, again, he refused. So
Jon ordered him taken outside and hanged.**
Slynt started blubbering like a baby, and Jon annoyed everyone for a
moment when he called a halt to the proceedings, but it was just to
change the method of execution to one more proper to Slynt's station.
“I will not hang him,” said Jon. “Bring him here.” “Oh, Seven save
us,” he heard Bowen Marsh cry out. The smile that Lord Janos Slynt
smiled then had all the sweetness of rancid butter. Until Jon
said, “Edd, fetch me a block,” and unsheathed Longclaw.
then some time was spent find a block and then dragging Slynt out
from the winch cage where he had tried to escape. (The winch cage?
Interesting choice.)
Janos Slynt twisted his neck around to stare up at him. “Please, my
lord. Mercy. I’ll … I’ll go, I will, I …” No, thought Jon. You
closed that door. Longclaw descended. “Can I have his boots?”
asked Owen the Oaf, as Janos Slynt’s head went rolling across the
muddy ground. “They’re almost new, those boots. Lined with fur.”
Jon glanced back at Stannis. For an instant their eyes met. Then
the king nodded and went back inside his tower.
** Not hung. He is not a tapestry, after all. Though he looked like
a pasty pastry when he realized he ws about to be executed.
Of course Stannis never liked Slynt, but was willing to work with the
horrid man if he had to under the rules of the Wall, which wipe away a
man's prior sins. But some people take no advantage of that and
remain the same pricks they had always been. Seriously, what did
Alliser Thorne see in him?
And now Jon Snow needs someone else for Greyguard. WHo does he have
left?
So, it was a dreary chapter, with little humor. Even dolorour Edd was
just going through the motions. "Edd here. Dreary dreary blagh. Don't
worry, if you aren't me things cannot be too bad for you."
There wasn't much of any titillating going on, either, though I was
distracted by memories of something else. Not sure if that counts.
Probably not. Sam was distracted, too, by the silliest talk of wet
nurses. I find it hard to laugh at him, though.
And Janos Slynt got his head chopped off. Everything else was just
filler.
--
Some aspects of life would be a lot easier if Creationists were required to carry warning signs. Fortunately, many of them already do.
Butterbumps@Home
Mar 31, 2012, 3:56:40 AM3/31/12
to
On Mar 28, 6:32 am, John Vreeland <john.vreel...@ieee.org> wrote:
> This is a "Chapter OF The Week*" for A Song
> of Ice and Fire by George R R. Martin
Oh yeah! Houston, we have a CHOW. About goddamn time, I just logged in
> This is a "Chapter OF The Week*" for A Song
> of Ice and Fire by George R R. Martin
to say I'd do this ... I should have logged in sooner. Also, I have a
sad feeling I will be the only responder.
> *week = occasionally when I feel like it. Much
> like the books.
> Jon 2
>
> This chapter is largely left over from where
> it should have been in the previous book. A
> bit of exposition, some surprises are set up
> that we already know about, etc. One gets
> the impression that a bit
> was cut out as being redundant or perhaps
> lacking in impact.
>
> It begins with Jon agonizing over a letter
> he is sending to the Iron
> Throne. Eventually Sam will arrive and
> provide the exposition to this
> mysterious missive, but before then we
> hear...no, actually Dolorous
> Edd is actually only described as muttering
> in his usual fashion and
> so we are spared his tiresome drivel for once.
not being lame. This latest book has actually given me a little bit of
hope that they won't be lame. He really brought some magic back into
the political-sado-porn in this book.
> How to fight them?
>
> "The armor of the Others is proof against most
> ordinary blades, if the tales can be believed,
> and their own swords are so cold they
> shatter steel. Fire will dismay them,
> though, and they are vulnerable to obsidian.
> I found one account of the Long Night that
> spoke of the last hero slaying Others with
> a blade of dragonsteel. Supposedly they
> could not stand against it.” “Dragonsteel?” The
> term was new to Jon. “Valyrian steel?”
> Then Jon tells Sam the he and Gilly and
> Maester Amon are going to Oldtown. Sam
> balks, fearing his father's disapproval, but
> Jon repeats a refrain in his own head that
> he used earlier but now is beginning to
> make sense, "kill the boy, kill the boy inside you."
>
> When he had last spoken to Aemon, the old
> maester told him this:
>
> "Kill the boy within you, I told him the day I
> took ship for the Wall. It takes a man to
> rule. An Aegon, not an Egg. Kill the boy
> and let the man be born.” The old man felt
> Jon’s face. “You are half the age that Egg
> was, and your own burden is a crueler one, I
> fear. You will have little joy of your command,
> but I think you have the strength in you to do
> the things that must be done. Kill
> the boy, Jon Snow. Winter is almost upon
> us. Kill the boy and let the man be born.”
this parting scene took place a long time after the short stories.
> So they said their goodbyes and Sam and
> Aemon and Gilly and the boy prince traveled
> back in time to the previous book, but that's for
> another chapter.
> Aside, Aemon mentions a chapter that he
> marked for Jon in the Jade Compendium, a
> book by a man who had traveled to Ashai. I
> cannot recall if we ever learned what was in it.
chapters.
> Finally, Jon leaves the previous book behind
> and gets on with this one. He instructs "Giant"
> Bedwyck, an illiterate poache rwho is a
> seasoned veteran of much of the Wall's
> troubles, to take over one of the old castles,
> Icemark. With him will go four of the Kingslanders
> who arrived with Janos Slynt. Jon means to put
> eyes all along the Wall if he can.
>
> In the days of Jon's great-great grandfather a
> King-Beyond-the-Wall named Raymun Redbeard
> came over the top in force, so that "Jolly" Jack
> Musgood, the Lord Commander at the time, was
> forever known as "Sleepy" Jack for arriving at
> the battle after William Stark and the Umbers
> had already finished off the wildlings.
didn't remember this snippet.
> There would be no "Sleepy" Jon Snow.
>
> So, Giant was geting Icemark, and Janos Slynt
> was getting Greyguard and thirty men. But the
> kingslander did not like it at all, oh no.
> Slynt refused, not understanding, so in the
> morning when it was time for Slynt to depart
> Jon went into the mess and ordered him to go
> again. Sitting with Alliser Thorne and cronies,
> again, he refused. So Jon ordered him taken
> outside and hanged.**
> Slynt started blubbering like a baby, and Jon
> annoyed everyone for a moment when he
> called a halt to the proceedings, but it was just to
> change the method of execution to one more
> proper to Slynt's station.
>
> “I will not hang him,” said Jon. “Bring him
> here.” “Oh, Seven save us,” he heard Bowen
> Marsh cry out. The smile that Lord Janos Slynt
> smiled then had all the sweetness of rancid
> butter. Until Jon said, “Edd, fetch me a block,” and
> unsheathed Longclaw.
>
> then some time was spent find a block and then
> dragging Slynt out from the winch cage where
> he had tried to escape. (The winch cage?
> Interesting choice.)
desperation in this.
> Janos Slynt twisted his neck around to stare
> up at him. “Please, my lord. Mercy. I’ll … I’ll go, I
> will, I …” No, thought Jon. You closed that door.
> Longclaw descended. “Can I have his boots?”
> asked Owen the Oaf, as Janos Slynt’s head
> went rolling across the muddy ground. “They’re
> almost new, those boots. Lined with fur.”
> Jon glanced back at Stannis. For an instant
> their eyes met. Then the king nodded and went
> back inside his tower.
> ** Not hung. He is not a tapestry, after all.
> Though he looked like a pasty pastry when he
> realized he ws about to be executed.
> Of course Stannis never liked Slynt, but was
> willing to work with the horrid man if he had to
> under the rules of the Wall, which wipe away a
> man's prior sins. But some people take no
> advantage of that and remain the same pricks
> they had always been.
> Seriously, what did Alliser Thorne see in him?
kindred spirit. Jon should be sending Thorne away or lopping off his
head.
> And now Jon Snow needs someone else for
> Greyguard. WHo does he have left?
castle and a bunch of men anyway, plotting and building up a
following. He probably knew he'd refuse and this was a good way to
bump him off. Only place he'll be safe.
> So, it was a dreary chapter, with little humor.
> Even dolorour Edd was just going through the
> motions. "Edd here. Dreary dreary blagh. Don't
> worry, if you aren't me things cannot be too bad
> for you."
> There wasn't much of any titillating going on,
> either,
> though I was distracted by memories of something
> else. Not sure if that counts. Probably not.
> Sam was distracted, too, by the silliest talk of wet
> nurses. I find it hard to laugh at him, though.
> And Janos Slynt got his head chopped off.
> Everything else was just filler.
Dour, cynical, disillusioned and borderline sarcastic, but a classic
CHOW and much appreciated.
I think I'm up next.
B@h
--
Now we're cookin' with gas.
Chucky & Janica
Apr 1, 2012, 4:06:30 AM4/1/12
to
On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 23:32:38 -0400, John Vreeland
<john.v...@ieee.org> wrote:
Weird, my phone-sent responses to all these posts aren't showing up on
Freeagent, although they are showing up on Google Groups.
C&J
<john.v...@ieee.org> wrote:
Weird, my phone-sent responses to all these posts aren't showing up on
Freeagent, although they are showing up on Google Groups.
C&J
Chucky & Janica
Apr 1, 2012, 4:12:59 AM4/1/12
to
What the Hell, might as well repost it, right?
On 31 maalis, 10:56, "Butterbumps@Home" <st.chu...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mar 28, 6:32 am, John Vreeland <john.vreel...@ieee.org> wrote:
> This is a "Chapter OF The Week*" for A Song
> of Ice and Fire by George R R. Martin
> of Ice and Fire by George R R. Martin
Oh yeah! Houston, we have a CHOW. About goddamn time, I just logged
in
to say I'd do this ... I should have logged in sooner. Also, I have a
sad feeling I will be the only responder.
in
to say I'd do this ... I should have logged in sooner. Also, I have a
sad feeling I will be the only responder.
> *week = occasionally when I feel like it. Much
> like the books.
> like the books.
The bitterness is strong with this one.
> Jon 2
> This chapter is largely left over from where
> it should have been in the previous book. A
> bit of exposition, some surprises are set up
> that we already know about, etc. One gets
> the impression that a bit
> was cut out as being redundant or perhaps
> lacking in impact.
> It begins with Jon agonizing over a letter
> he is sending to the Iron
> Throne. Eventually Sam will arrive and
> provide the exposition to this
> mysterious missive, but before then we
> hear...no, actually Dolorous
> Edd is actually only described as muttering
> in his usual fashion and
> so we are spared his tiresome drivel for once.
> This chapter is largely left over from where
> it should have been in the previous book. A
> bit of exposition, some surprises are set up
> that we already know about, etc. One gets
> the impression that a bit
> was cut out as being redundant or perhaps
> lacking in impact.
> It begins with Jon agonizing over a letter
> he is sending to the Iron
> Throne. Eventually Sam will arrive and
> provide the exposition to this
> mysterious missive, but before then we
> hear...no, actually Dolorous
> Edd is actually only described as muttering
> in his usual fashion and
> so we are spared his tiresome drivel for once.
Aw, you're even soured on Edd?
I'm excited by the giant ice spiders. Just quietly. I hope they end
up
not being lame. This latest book has actually given me a little bit
of
hope that they won't be lame. He really brought some magic back into
the political-sado-porn in this book.
up
not being lame. This latest book has actually given me a little bit
of
hope that they won't be lame. He really brought some magic back into
the political-sado-porn in this book.
> How to fight them?
>
> "The armor of the Others is proof against most
> ordinary blades, if the tales can be believed,
> and their own swords are so cold they
> shatter steel. Fire will dismay them,
> though, and they are vulnerable to obsidian.
> I found one account of the Long Night that
> spoke of the last hero slaying Others with
> a blade of dragonsteel. Supposedly they
> could not stand against it.” “Dragonsteel?” The
> term was new to Jon. “Valyrian steel?”
>
> "The armor of the Others is proof against most
> ordinary blades, if the tales can be believed,
> and their own swords are so cold they
> shatter steel. Fire will dismay them,
> though, and they are vulnerable to obsidian.
> I found one account of the Long Night that
> spoke of the last hero slaying Others with
> a blade of dragonsteel. Supposedly they
> could not stand against it.” “Dragonsteel?” The
> term was new to Jon. “Valyrian steel?”
Could be, or some metal otherwise forged by dragon flame.
> Then Jon tells Sam the he and Gilly and
> Maester Amon are going to Oldtown. Sam
> balks, fearing his father's disapproval, but
> Jon repeats a refrain in his own head that
> he used earlier but now is beginning to
> make sense, "kill the boy, kill the boy inside you."
> When he had last spoken to Aemon, the old
> maester told him this:
> "Kill the boy within you, I told him the day I
> took ship for the Wall. It takes a man to
> rule. An Aegon, not an Egg. Kill the boy
> and let the man be born.” The old man felt
> Jon’s face. “You are half the age that Egg
> was, and your own burden is a crueler one, I
> fear. You will have little joy of your command,
> but I think you have the strength in you to do
> the things that must be done. Kill
> the boy, Jon Snow. Winter is almost upon
> us. Kill the boy and let the man be born.”
> Maester Amon are going to Oldtown. Sam
> balks, fearing his father's disapproval, but
> Jon repeats a refrain in his own head that
> he used earlier but now is beginning to
> make sense, "kill the boy, kill the boy inside you."
> When he had last spoken to Aemon, the old
> maester told him this:
> "Kill the boy within you, I told him the day I
> took ship for the Wall. It takes a man to
> rule. An Aegon, not an Egg. Kill the boy
> and let the man be born.” The old man felt
> Jon’s face. “You are half the age that Egg
> was, and your own burden is a crueler one, I
> fear. You will have little joy of your command,
> but I think you have the strength in you to do
> the things that must be done. Kill
> the boy, Jon Snow. Winter is almost upon
> us. Kill the boy and let the man be born.”
I never realised Egg was ...what, in his forties? Although I guess
this parting scene took place a long time after the short stories.
this parting scene took place a long time after the short stories.
> So they said their goodbyes and Sam and
> Aemon and Gilly and the boy prince traveled
> back in time to the previous book, but that's for
> another chapter.
Nyuck.
> Aemon and Gilly and the boy prince traveled
> back in time to the previous book, but that's for
> another chapter.
> Aside, Aemon mentions a chapter that he
> marked for Jon in the Jade Compendium, a
> book by a man who had traveled to Ashai. I
> cannot recall if we ever learned what was in it.
Doesn't ring a bell, but maybe it's an escape hatch for Jon's
...later
chapters.
...later
chapters.
> Finally, Jon leaves the previous book behind
> and gets on with this one. He instructs "Giant"
> Bedwyck, an illiterate poache rwho is a
> seasoned veteran of much of the Wall's
> troubles, to take over one of the old castles,
> Icemark. With him will go four of the Kingslanders
> who arrived with Janos Slynt. Jon means to put
> eyes all along the Wall if he can.
> In the days of Jon's great-great grandfather a
> King-Beyond-the-Wall named Raymun Redbeard
> came over the top in force, so that "Jolly" Jack
> Musgood, the Lord Commander at the time, was
> forever known as "Sleepy" Jack for arriving at
> the battle after William Stark and the Umbers
> had already finished off the wildlings.
> and gets on with this one. He instructs "Giant"
> Bedwyck, an illiterate poache rwho is a
> seasoned veteran of much of the Wall's
> troubles, to take over one of the old castles,
> Icemark. With him will go four of the Kingslanders
> who arrived with Janos Slynt. Jon means to put
> eyes all along the Wall if he can.
> In the days of Jon's great-great grandfather a
> King-Beyond-the-Wall named Raymun Redbeard
> came over the top in force, so that "Jolly" Jack
> Musgood, the Lord Commander at the time, was
> forever known as "Sleepy" Jack for arriving at
> the battle after William Stark and the Umbers
> had already finished off the wildlings.
Are we still sneaking in little bits of false information? Heh, I
didn't remember this snippet.
didn't remember this snippet.
> There would be no "Sleepy" Jon Snow.
> So, Giant was geting Icemark, and Janos Slynt
> was getting Greyguard and thirty men. But the
> kingslander did not like it at all, oh no.
> Slynt refused, not understanding, so in the
> morning when it was time for Slynt to depart
> Jon went into the mess and ordered him to go
> again. Sitting with Alliser Thorne and cronies,
> again, he refused. So Jon ordered him taken
> outside and hanged.**
> So, Giant was geting Icemark, and Janos Slynt
> was getting Greyguard and thirty men. But the
> kingslander did not like it at all, oh no.
> Slynt refused, not understanding, so in the
> morning when it was time for Slynt to depart
> Jon went into the mess and ordered him to go
> again. Sitting with Alliser Thorne and cronies,
> again, he refused. So Jon ordered him taken
> outside and hanged.**
I fucking *loved* this scene.
> Slynt started blubbering like a baby, and Jon
> annoyed everyone for a moment when he
> called a halt to the proceedings, but it was just to
> change the method of execution to one more
> proper to Slynt's station.
> “I will not hang him,” said Jon. “Bring him
> here.” “Oh, Seven save us,” he heard Bowen
> Marsh cry out. The smile that Lord Janos Slynt
> smiled then had all the sweetness of rancid
> butter. Until Jon said, “Edd, fetch me a block,” and
> unsheathed Longclaw.
> then some time was spent find a block and then
> dragging Slynt out from the winch cage where
> he had tried to escape. (The winch cage?
> Interesting choice.)
> annoyed everyone for a moment when he
> called a halt to the proceedings, but it was just to
> change the method of execution to one more
> proper to Slynt's station.
> “I will not hang him,” said Jon. “Bring him
> here.” “Oh, Seven save us,” he heard Bowen
> Marsh cry out. The smile that Lord Janos Slynt
> smiled then had all the sweetness of rancid
> butter. Until Jon said, “Edd, fetch me a block,” and
> unsheathed Longclaw.
> then some time was spent find a block and then
> dragging Slynt out from the winch cage where
> he had tried to escape. (The winch cage?
> Interesting choice.)
Not so many other places he could have run to, I like the mindless
desperation in this.
desperation in this.
> Janos Slynt twisted his neck around to stare
> up at him. “Please, my lord. Mercy. I’ll … I’ll go, I
> will, I …” No, thought Jon. You closed that door.
> Longclaw descended. “Can I have his boots?”
> asked Owen the Oaf, as Janos Slynt’s head
> went rolling across the muddy ground. “They’re
> almost new, those boots. Lined with fur.”
> Jon glanced back at Stannis. For an instant
> their eyes met. Then the king nodded and went
> back inside his tower.
Stannis understands that shit.
> up at him. “Please, my lord. Mercy. I’ll … I’ll go, I
> will, I …” No, thought Jon. You closed that door.
> Longclaw descended. “Can I have his boots?”
> asked Owen the Oaf, as Janos Slynt’s head
> went rolling across the muddy ground. “They’re
> almost new, those boots. Lined with fur.”
> Jon glanced back at Stannis. For an instant
> their eyes met. Then the king nodded and went
> back inside his tower.
> ** Not hung. He is not a tapestry, after all.
> Though he looked like a pasty pastry when he
> realized he ws about to be executed.
> Of course Stannis never liked Slynt, but was
> willing to work with the horrid man if he had to
> under the rules of the Wall, which wipe away a
> man's prior sins. But some people take no
> advantage of that and remain the same pricks
> they had always been.
> Seriously, what did Alliser Thorne see in him?
Alliser is a dumb shit and a giant cunt to boot, he doubtless saw a
kindred spirit. Jon should be sending Thorne away or lopping off his
head.
kindred spirit. Jon should be sending Thorne away or lopping off his
head.
> And now Jon Snow needs someone else for
> Greyguard. WHo does he have left?
> Greyguard. WHo does he have left?
I doubt he would have wanted Slynt out of his sight, in charge of a
castle and a bunch of men anyway, plotting and building up a
following. He probably knew he'd refuse and this was a good way to
bump him off. Only place he'll be safe.
castle and a bunch of men anyway, plotting and building up a
following. He probably knew he'd refuse and this was a good way to
bump him off. Only place he'll be safe.
> So, it was a dreary chapter, with little humor.
> Even dolorour Edd was just going through the
> motions. "Edd here. Dreary dreary blagh. Don't
> worry, if you aren't me things cannot be too bad
> for you."
Aww.
> Even dolorour Edd was just going through the
> motions. "Edd here. Dreary dreary blagh. Don't
> worry, if you aren't me things cannot be too bad
> for you."
> There wasn't much of any titillating going on,
> either,
Seldom is, in a Wall chapter.
> though I was distracted by memories of something
> else. Not sure if that counts. Probably not.
*shakes head*
> else. Not sure if that counts. Probably not.
> Sam was distracted, too, by the silliest talk of wet
> nurses. I find it hard to laugh at him, though.
I find him funny, sometimes. But more heart-wrenching, usually.
> And Janos Slynt got his head chopped off.
> Everything else was just filler.
> Everything else was just filler.
*applause*
Dour, cynical, disillusioned and borderline sarcastic, but a classic
CHOW and much appreciated.
I think I'm up next.
Yep, I'll put up a Tyrion III soon.
Dour, cynical, disillusioned and borderline sarcastic, but a classic
CHOW and much appreciated.
I think I'm up next.
C&J
Bill O'Meally
Apr 1, 2012, 10:21:30 AM4/1/12
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Groups that didn't seem to make it into my newsreader. Seems to be only
this newsgroup, as the Tolkien groups and others I follow appear to be
working fine. Though your post obviously came through, I see 12 posts
to "HBO Tyrion" on Google Groups, but I only have four in my
newsreader. Only Butterbumps@Home's post did not come through for this
thread. Cyber April Fool's joke?
--
Bill
"Wise Fool" -- Gandalf, _The Two Towers_
(The Wise will remove 'se' to reach me. The Foolish will not)
Larry
Apr 1, 2012, 11:15:06 AM4/1/12
to
In article <033gn71boh6558jim...@4ax.com>,
janica...@kolumbus.fi says...
Your phone responses were posted through Google Groups, and Google is
apparently not propagating articles to the rest of Usenet. I checked one
other newsgroup, and GG articles are not showing up there either.
janica...@kolumbus.fi says...
apparently not propagating articles to the rest of Usenet. I checked one
other newsgroup, and GG articles are not showing up there either.
Will in New Haven
Apr 2, 2012, 12:59:31 PM4/2/12
to
On Mar 27, 11:32 pm, John Vreeland <john.vreel...@ieee.org> wrote:
> This is a "Chapter OF The Week*" for A Song of Ice and Fire by George
> R R. Martin
>
> *week = occasionally when I feel like it. Much like the books.
Well, that's better than anyone ELSE has been doing.
> This is a "Chapter OF The Week*" for A Song of Ice and Fire by George
> R R. Martin
>
> *week = occasionally when I feel like it. Much like the books.
>
> Jon 2
>
> This chapter is largely left over from where it should have been in
> the previous book.
the previous book>
> So they said their goodbyes and Sam and Aemon and Gilly and the boy
> prince traveled back in time to the previous book, but that's for
> another chapter.
>
> Aside, Aemon mentions a chapter that he marked for Jon in the Jade
> Compendium, a book by a man who had traveled to Ashai. I cannot recall
> if we ever learned what was in it.
>
> Finally, Jon leaves the previous book behind and gets on with this
> one. He instructs "Giant" Bedwyck, an illiterate poache rwho is a
> seasoned veteran of much of the Wall's troubles, to take over one of
> the old castles, Icemark. With him will go four of the Kingslanders
> who arrived with Janos Slynt. Jon means to put eyes all along the Wall
> if he can.
>
> In the days of Jon's great-great grandfather a King-Beyond-the-Wall
> named Raymun Redbeard came over the top in force, so that "Jolly" Jack
> Musgood, the Lord Commander at the time, was forever known as "Sleepy"
> Jack for arriving at the battle after William Stark and the Umbers had
> already finished off the wildlings. There would be no "Sleepy" Jon
> Snow.
promotion. But that will wait for another chapter.
>
> So, Giant was geting Icemark, and Janos Slynt was getting Greyguard
> and thirty men. But the kingslander did not like it at all, oh no.
> Slynt refused, not understanding, so in the morning when it was time
> for Slynt to depart Jon went into the mess and ordered him to go
> again. Sitting with Alliser Thorne and cronies, again, he refused. So
> Jon ordered him taken outside and hanged.**
>
> Slynt started blubbering like a baby, and Jon annoyed everyone for a
> moment when he called a halt to the proceedings, but it was just to
> change the method of execution to one more proper to Slynt's station.
>
> “I will not hang him,” said Jon. “Bring him here.” “Oh, Seven save
> us,” he heard Bowen Marsh cry out. The smile that Lord Janos Slynt
> smiled then had all the sweetness of rancid butter. Until Jon
> said, “Edd, fetch me a block,” and unsheathed Longclaw.
>
> then some time was spent find a block and then dragging Slynt out
> from the winch cage where he had tried to escape. (The winch cage?
> Interesting choice.)
>
> Janos Slynt twisted his neck around to stare up at him. “Please, my
> lord. Mercy. I’ll … I’ll go, I will, I …” No, thought Jon. You
> closed that door. Longclaw descended. “Can I have his boots?”
> asked Owen the Oaf, as Janos Slynt’s head went rolling across the
> muddy ground. “They’re almost new, those boots. Lined with fur.”
> Jon glanced back at Stannis. For an instant their eyes met. Then
> the king nodded and went back inside his tower.
>
> ** Not hung. He is not a tapestry, after all. Though he looked like
> a pasty pastry when he realized he ws about to be executed.
>
> Of course Stannis never liked Slynt, but was willing to work with the
> horrid man if he had to under the rules of the Wall, which wipe away a
> man's prior sins. But some people take no advantage of that and
> remain the same pricks they had always been. Seriously, what did
> Alliser Thorne see in him?
anything wrong with that.
>
> And now Jon Snow needs someone else for Greyguard. WHo does he have
> left?
>
> So, it was a dreary chapter, with little humor. Even dolorour Edd was
> just going through the motions. "Edd here. Dreary dreary blagh. Don't
> worry, if you aren't me things cannot be too bad for you."
>
> There wasn't much of any titillating going on, either, though I was
> distracted by memories of something else. Not sure if that counts.
> Probably not. Sam was distracted, too, by the silliest talk of wet
> nurses. I find it hard to laugh at him, though.
>
> And Janos Slynt got his head chopped off. Everything else was just
> filler.
shortened was a good thing.
--
Will in New Haven
John Vreeland
Apr 3, 2012, 10:19:05 AM4/3/12
to
least suggestion in the text that it were true.
>>
>> And now Jon Snow needs someone else for Greyguard. WHo does he have
>> left?
>>
>> So, it was a dreary chapter, with little humor. Even dolorour Edd was
>> just going through the motions. "Edd here. Dreary dreary blagh. Don't
>> worry, if you aren't me things cannot be too bad for you."
>>
>> There wasn't much of any titillating going on, either, though I was
>> distracted by memories of something else. Not sure if that counts.
>> Probably not. Sam was distracted, too, by the silliest talk of wet
>> nurses. I find it hard to laugh at him, though.
>>
>> And Janos Slynt got his head chopped off. Everything else was just
>> filler.
>
>I don't know if I agree with the "else." But, yeah, Slynt getting
>shortened was a good thing.
--
Butterbumps@Home
Apr 5, 2012, 9:39:06 AM4/5/12
to
On Apr 1, 6:15 pm, Larry <lar...@peaksky.com> wrote:
> In article <033gn71boh6558jimpr4j32hs0svl2i...@4ax.com>,
> janica.hin...@kolumbus.fi says...
Maybe something to do with 'the new' Google Groups that is coming? Or
should I be complaining to someone?
B@h
--
Bastards.
> In article <033gn71boh6558jimpr4j32hs0svl2i...@4ax.com>,
> janica.hin...@kolumbus.fi says...
should I be complaining to someone?
B@h
--
Bastards.
Butterbumps@Home
Apr 5, 2012, 10:37:27 AM4/5/12
to
On Apr 2, 7:59 pm, Will in New Haven <bill.re...@taylorandfrancis.com>
wrote:
three or four I have written until the person with the next CHOW in
line has posted theirs. Still, very glad the Vree finally did so.
He takes after his giant noble dumbarse of a father / uncle in that
regard.
>
>
> > So, Giant was geting Icemark, and Janos Slynt was getting Greyguard
> > and thirty men. But the kingslander did not like it at all, oh no.
> > Slynt refused, not understanding, so in the morning when it was time
> > for Slynt to depart Jon went into the mess and ordered him to go
> > again. Sitting with Alliser Thorne and cronies, again, he refused. So
> > Jon ordered him taken outside and hanged.**
>
> > Slynt started blubbering like a baby, and Jon annoyed everyone for a
> > moment when he called a halt to the proceedings, but it was just to
> > change the method of execution to one more proper to Slynt's station.
>
> > “I will not hang him,” said Jon. “Bring him here.” “Oh, Seven save
> > us,” he heard Bowen Marsh cry out. The smile that Lord Janos Slynt
> > smiled then had all the sweetness of rancid butter. Until Jon
> > said, “Edd, fetch me a block,” and unsheathed Longclaw.
>
> > then some time was spent find a block and then dragging Slynt out
> > from the winch cage where he had tried to escape. (The winch cage?
> > Interesting choice.)
>
> Any port in a big wine cup. Or in a storm.
Mmmm. Port.
>
> > Janos Slynt twisted his neck around to stare up at him. “Please, my
> > lord. Mercy. I’ll … I’ll go, I will, I …” No, thought Jon. You
> > closed that door. Longclaw descended. “Can I have his boots?”
> > asked Owen the Oaf, as Janos Slynt’s head went rolling across the
> > muddy ground. “They’re almost new, those boots. Lined with fur.”
> > Jon glanced back at Stannis. For an instant their eyes met. Then
> > the king nodded and went back inside his tower.
>
> He'd been there and done that.
>
>
>
> > ** Not hung. He is not a tapestry, after all. Though he looked like
> > a pasty pastry when he realized he ws about to be executed.
>
> > Of course Stannis never liked Slynt, but was willing to work with the
> > horrid man if he had to under the rules of the Wall, which wipe away a
> > man's prior sins. But some people take no advantage of that and
> > remain the same pricks they had always been. Seriously, what did
> > Alliser Thorne see in him?
>
> Well, you know, their vows only mentione _women_ Not that there's
> anything wrong with that.
Really not seeing it between Thorne and Slynt. Look how they treat
Satin.
>
>
> > And now Jon Snow needs someone else for Greyguard. WHo does he have
> > left?
>
> > So, it was a dreary chapter, with little humor. Even dolorour Edd was
> > just going through the motions. "Edd here. Dreary dreary blagh. Don't
> > worry, if you aren't me things cannot be too bad for you."
>
> > There wasn't much of any titillating going on, either, though I was
> > distracted by memories of something else. Not sure if that counts.
> > Probably not. Sam was distracted, too, by the silliest talk of wet
> > nurses. I find it hard to laugh at him, though.
>
> > And Janos Slynt got his head chopped off. Everything else was just
> > filler.
>
> I don't know if I agree with the "else." But, yeah, Slynt getting
> shortened was a good thing.
Could have happened sooner, but it was definite progress. Thorne next,
please.
B@h
--
Aw. Please?
wrote:
> On Mar 27, 11:32 pm, John Vreeland <john.vreel...@ieee.org> wrote:
>
> > This is a "Chapter OF The Week*" for A Song of Ice and Fire by George
> > R R. Martin
>
> > *week = occasionally when I feel like it. Much like the books.
>
> Well, that's better than anyone ELSE has been doing.
Perhaps you have forgotten how the CHOWs work. I can't post any of the
>
> > This is a "Chapter OF The Week*" for A Song of Ice and Fire by George
> > R R. Martin
>
> > *week = occasionally when I feel like it. Much like the books.
>
> Well, that's better than anyone ELSE has been doing.
three or four I have written until the person with the next CHOW in
line has posted theirs. Still, very glad the Vree finally did so.
regard.
>
>
> > So, Giant was geting Icemark, and Janos Slynt was getting Greyguard
> > and thirty men. But the kingslander did not like it at all, oh no.
> > Slynt refused, not understanding, so in the morning when it was time
> > for Slynt to depart Jon went into the mess and ordered him to go
> > again. Sitting with Alliser Thorne and cronies, again, he refused. So
> > Jon ordered him taken outside and hanged.**
>
> > Slynt started blubbering like a baby, and Jon annoyed everyone for a
> > moment when he called a halt to the proceedings, but it was just to
> > change the method of execution to one more proper to Slynt's station.
>
> > “I will not hang him,” said Jon. “Bring him here.” “Oh, Seven save
> > us,” he heard Bowen Marsh cry out. The smile that Lord Janos Slynt
> > smiled then had all the sweetness of rancid butter. Until Jon
> > said, “Edd, fetch me a block,” and unsheathed Longclaw.
>
> > then some time was spent find a block and then dragging Slynt out
> > from the winch cage where he had tried to escape. (The winch cage?
> > Interesting choice.)
>
> Any port in a big wine cup. Or in a storm.
>
> > Janos Slynt twisted his neck around to stare up at him. “Please, my
> > lord. Mercy. I’ll … I’ll go, I will, I …” No, thought Jon. You
> > closed that door. Longclaw descended. “Can I have his boots?”
> > asked Owen the Oaf, as Janos Slynt’s head went rolling across the
> > muddy ground. “They’re almost new, those boots. Lined with fur.”
> > Jon glanced back at Stannis. For an instant their eyes met. Then
> > the king nodded and went back inside his tower.
>
> He'd been there and done that.
>
>
>
> > ** Not hung. He is not a tapestry, after all. Though he looked like
> > a pasty pastry when he realized he ws about to be executed.
>
> > Of course Stannis never liked Slynt, but was willing to work with the
> > horrid man if he had to under the rules of the Wall, which wipe away a
> > man's prior sins. But some people take no advantage of that and
> > remain the same pricks they had always been. Seriously, what did
> > Alliser Thorne see in him?
>
> Well, you know, their vows only mentione _women_ Not that there's
> anything wrong with that.
Satin.
>
>
> > And now Jon Snow needs someone else for Greyguard. WHo does he have
> > left?
>
> > So, it was a dreary chapter, with little humor. Even dolorour Edd was
> > just going through the motions. "Edd here. Dreary dreary blagh. Don't
> > worry, if you aren't me things cannot be too bad for you."
>
> > There wasn't much of any titillating going on, either, though I was
> > distracted by memories of something else. Not sure if that counts.
> > Probably not. Sam was distracted, too, by the silliest talk of wet
> > nurses. I find it hard to laugh at him, though.
>
> > And Janos Slynt got his head chopped off. Everything else was just
> > filler.
>
> I don't know if I agree with the "else." But, yeah, Slynt getting
> shortened was a good thing.
please.
B@h
--
Aw. Please?
Larry
Apr 5, 2012, 2:39:29 PM4/5/12
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In article <a4aff11d-992c-423b-9b64-008ae99e4104
@l4g2000vbt.googlegroups.com>, st.c...@gmail.com says...
> > Your phone responses were posted through Google Groups, and Google is
> > apparently not propagating articles to the rest of Usenet. I checked one
> > other newsgroup, and GG articles are not showing up there either.
>
> Maybe something to do with 'the new' Google Groups that is coming? Or
> should I be complaining to someone?
Google started propagating articles again. They did this in January too, so
you can expect periodic malfunctions in the Google news feed. They only last
a week or two.
@l4g2000vbt.googlegroups.com>, st.c...@gmail.com says...
> > Your phone responses were posted through Google Groups, and Google is
> > apparently not propagating articles to the rest of Usenet. I checked one
> > other newsgroup, and GG articles are not showing up there either.
>
> Maybe something to do with 'the new' Google Groups that is coming? Or
> should I be complaining to someone?
you can expect periodic malfunctions in the Google news feed. They only last
a week or two.
Chucky & Janica
Apr 9, 2012, 8:56:26 AM4/9/12
to
On Thu, 5 Apr 2012 11:39:29 -0700, Larry <lar...@peaksky.com> wrote:
>> Maybe something to do with 'the new' Google Groups that is coming? Or
>> should I be complaining to someone?
>
>Google started propagating articles again. They did this in January too, so
>you can expect periodic malfunctions in the Google news feed. They only last
>a week or two.
Good old google.
>> Maybe something to do with 'the new' Google Groups that is coming? Or
>> should I be complaining to someone?
>
>Google started propagating articles again. They did this in January too, so
>you can expect periodic malfunctions in the Google news feed. They only last
>a week or two.
C&J
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