Next Fall
Will in New Haven
Amazon is not noted for being pessimistic.
Just a tip: Don't preorder it if you are over forty and/or in poor
health.
Martin isn't our bitch, but he's a bitch.
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Will in New Haven
Larry Caldwell
@b2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>, bill....@taylorandfrancis.com (Will in
New Haven) says...
> The latest estimate on Amazon for the new book is _next fall_ and
> Amazon is not noted for being pessimistic.
In other words, they are tired of answering queries, and picked a date
so people would shut up.
> Just a tip: Don't preorder it if you are over forty and/or in poor
> health.
Are they accepting preorders again? What would be the point? All the
credit cards will expire before the book is published.
> Martin isn't our bitch, but he's a bitch.
Martin needs to hire a ghost writer.
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Penelope Periwinkle
<firstnamel...@peaksky.com> wrote:
>In article <1c892ed3-df54-4ffe-813e-df63c85f6961
>@b2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>, bill....@taylorandfrancis.com (Will in
>New Haven) says...
Look, it's Gloomy and Grumpy! How's it going, guys?
Guess what? I got my new computer! Guess what else, it took me
two days to figure how to open the dvd bay!
*smoochies!*
Penelope
Arno
Crowbar? ;-)
Arno
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Will in New Haven
> On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:42:17 -0800, Larry Caldwell
>
> >New Haven) says...
>
> Look, it's Gloomy and Grumpy! How's it going, guys?
>
> Guess what? I got my new computer! Guess what else, it took me
> two days to figure how to open the dvd bay!
>
> *smoochies!*
I'm not all that gloomy and not at all grumpy. With the Martin thing,
it is much more a matter of losing interest than of being upset.
I've seen preview pages or whatever you call them on his website of
the alleged next book and they don't look all that good anyway.
Glad you got your new computer and smoochies back at you.
Penelope Periwinkle
>Penelope Periwinkle <penp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Guess what? I got my new computer! Guess what else, it took me
>> two days to figure how to open the dvd bay!
>
>Crowbar? ;-)
Flashlight
It's all sleek and shiny on the front, the power button is even
on top.
Windows 7 looks speciously like a Mac OS.
Penelope
Penelope Periwinkle
<bill....@taylorandfrancis.com> wrote:
>On Nov 30, 10:41�pm, Penelope Periwinkle <penpe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Look, it's Gloomy and Grumpy! �How's it going, guys?
>>
>> Guess what? I got my new computer! �Guess what else, it took me
>> two days to figure how to open the dvd bay!
>>
>> *smoochies!*
>
>I'm not all that gloomy and not at all grumpy.
Then we should notify the Academy concerning your nomination at
once.
> With the Martin thing,
>it is much more a matter of losing interest than of being upset.
>I've seen preview pages or whatever you call them on his website of
>the alleged next book and they don't look all that good anyway.
Gloomy, grumpy, and cynical, the perfect trifecta that is our
Will.
I left out horny cause it squicks Chucky.
>Glad you got your new computer and smoochies back at you.
Thank you, Dahlink!
Penelope
Will in New Haven
> On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 08:58:01 -0800 (PST), Will in New Haven
>
> >On Nov 30, 10:41 pm, Penelope Periwinkle <penpe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Look, it's Gloomy and Grumpy! How's it going, guys?
>
> >> Guess what? I got my new computer! Guess what else, it took me
> >> two days to figure how to open the dvd bay!
>
> >> *smoochies!*
>
> >I'm not all that gloomy and not at all grumpy.
>
> Then we should notify the Academy concerning your nomination at
> once.
>
> > With the Martin thing,
> >it is much more a matter of losing interest than of being upset.
> >I've seen preview pages or whatever you call them on his website of
> >the alleged next book and they don't look all that good anyway.
>
> Gloomy, grumpy, and cynical, the perfect trifecta that is our
> Will.
There may be sour grapes involved also. I mean, if he's never going to
finish it we might as well think it's no good.
>
> I left out horny cause it squicks Chucky.
Won't be horny again for a few days, hours anyway.
> >Glad you got your new computer and smoochies back at you.
>
> Thank you, Dahlink!
You are quite welcome.
Obbligato
"Next Fall" - now that sounds familiar. Didn't I hear it a few years
ago?
Arno
> On Nov 28, 7:20?pm, Will in New Haven
That should read "fall of some year".
Penelope Periwinkle
So, what? You made a special trip over here to whine? No one's
dropped by to change your diapers lately?
If I were Martin and had fans like you guys, I would refuse to
finish the book on general principle.
Penelope
Chucky & Janica
<penp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>If I were Martin and had fans like you guys, I would refuse to
>finish the book on general principle.
You are Martin, aren't you?
Come on, you can tell us.
C&J
Penelope Periwinkle
It's the beard, isn't it? The beard gave me away, didn't it? That
and my keen insights into the characters and storylines, right?
Penelope
Chucky and the Fantabulous Webomophone
> >>If I were Martin and had fans like you guys, I would refuse to
> >>finish the book on general principle.
>
> >You are Martin, aren't you?
>
> >Come on, you can tell us.
>
> It's the beard, isn't it? The beard gave me away, didn't it? That
> and my keen insights into the characters and storylines, right?
The keen insights, mainly. The beard and sailor hat were just the
final clues. And the high-pitched girly giggle.
C@w
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Chucky and Mopho, back at work for two glorious days!
Obbligato
<bill.re...@taylorandfrancis.com> wrote:
> Just a tip: Don't preorder it if you are over forty...
> --
> Will in New Haven
You know, I used to worry about whether Martin would finish the last
book of the series before he croaks.
Now its gone on so long that I worry whether Martin will finish the
last book before *I* croak!
Chucky & Janica
<obbli...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Just a tip: Don't preorder it if you are over forty...
>> --
>> Will in New Haven
>
>You know, I used to worry about whether Martin would finish the last
>book of the series before he croaks.
>Now its gone on so long that I worry whether Martin will finish the
>last book before *I* croak!
Yeah, or whatever weird clone-cyborg-Martin they brew up to finish the
books, using pieces of his brain tissue recovered from the comic
convention where his fans finally run him to ground and beat him to
death with copies of Dreamsongs XII.
C&J
You know, I'm beginning to lose hope in the possibility that the
future is going to be like that. It's 2010 and we still don't have
G.E.L.F.s.
Laurence
>> I left out horny cause it squicks Chucky.
>
> Won't be horny again for a few days, hours anyway.
>
>>> Glad you got your new computer and smoochies back at you.
>> Thank you, Dahlink!
>
> You are quite welcome.
Chucky dragged me back here /for this/?
:-\
Chucky and the Fantabulous Webomophone
> >> Thank you, Dahlink!
>
> > You are quite welcome.
>
> Chucky dragged me back here /for this/?
>
> :-\
You *do* realise that alt.fan.grrm is not the Monkeyhouse, don't you?
C@w
--
And if you don't, let me be the first to give you a turbo-wedgie.
*starts up a large machine that seems to be composed mainly of
outboard motor*
Laurence
> You *do* realise that alt.fan.grrm is not the Monkeyhouse, don't you?
I stuck my head briefly into AFRJ as well, realised almost all the
conversations were about a book I haven't read, and might well read at
some point (especially as the conversations seemed to mostly be quite
positive!) and ran away from the spoilers.
> And if you don't, let me be the first to give you a turbo-wedgie.
Hah, joke's on you, Chuckles, I'm not wearing any pants!
> *starts up a large machine that seems to be composed mainly of
> outboard motor*
However! I still don't want that inserted in me...
Chucky & Janica
wrote:
>> You *do* realise that alt.fan.grrm is not the Monkeyhouse, don't you?
>
>I stuck my head briefly into AFRJ as well, realised almost all the
>conversations were about a book I haven't read, and might well read at
>some point (especially as the conversations seemed to mostly be quite
>positive!) and ran away from the spoilers.
Well, you know what you need to do, don't you? Buy the book, and then
read the book, and then go to the newsgroup and discuss the book. Or
at least talk about something. We can go over bit torrents again.
>> And if you don't, let me be the first to give you a turbo-wedgie.
>
>Hah, joke's on you, Chuckles, I'm not wearing any pants!
Then what's that - gah! The joke's on me!
>> *starts up a large machine that seems to be composed mainly of
>> outboard motor*
>
>However! I still don't want that inserted in me...
Your eyes say "no", but your ... wait, those aren't your eyes.
C&J
Laurence
> Well, you know what you need to do, don't you? Buy the book, and then
> read the book, and then go to the newsgroup and discuss the book. Or
> at least talk about something. We can go over bit torrents again.
I might even do that... Actually, there's a chance my brother's already
bought it, in which case I might be able to nick it from him.
*yoink* as they say.
I don't seem to do as much reading as I used to, but I think I would
probably find the time to finally knock WoT on the head! I must have
been reading this series for about half my life now.
> Then what's that - gah! The joke's on me!
There'll be more than just jokes on you if you don't stop that!
Chucky & Janica
wrote:
>I don't seem to do as much reading as I used to, but I think I would
>probably find the time to finally knock WoT on the head! I must have
>been reading this series for about half my life now.
The latest book was really quite good. As you may have seen from the
Monkeyhouse, there were enough awesome moments in it for me to
assemble a small Compendium of Awesome for several of the main
characters. There were some great resolutions and it was an endless
relief to see the plot go forward again.
Think "that great big creaking groaning blood-dripping juggernaut
dragged by the dead inside the sword dragnipur" when I say "the plot".
If you know what I mean.
If you don't, then read some Erikson.
Or, you know, don't. Because they're like the Wheel of Time but with
more characters and countries and plots and pages. And no end in
sight.
C&J
Laurence
> On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 11:01:36 +0100, Laurence <laur...@none.none>
> wrote:
>
>> I don't seem to do as much reading as I used to, but I think I would
>> probably find the time to finally knock WoT on the head! I must have
>> been reading this series for about half my life now.
>
> The latest book was really quite good. As you may have seen from the
> Monkeyhouse, there were enough awesome moments in it for me to
> assemble a small Compendium of Awesome for several of the main
> characters. There were some great resolutions and it was an endless
> relief to see the plot go forward again.
Turns out the brother didn't have it, and gave me a strange look when I
asked if he'd bought a Wheel of Time book... I suppose it serves me
right! Maybe I should just buy it myself, especialy given what you're
saying about it being better and actually doing stuff! I'm trying to
work out if I've missed any books between the last one I read and the
new one...
To the Wikipedia!
Hmmm. I don't think I've read Knife of Dreams... Definitely read
Winter's Heart, and I think I read the one after...
Hmmm.
Well, it's not like anything's going to have happened in KoD...
> Think "that great big creaking groaning blood-dripping juggernaut
> dragged by the dead inside the sword dragnipur" when I say "the plot".
> If you know what I mean.
It's the juggernaut, bitch!
> If you don't, then read some Erikson.
I know my bitches. And my juggernauts. Dragonpurr sounds more to do with
ASoIaF than WoT though!
> Or, you know, don't. Because they're like the Wheel of Time but with
> more characters and countries and plots and pages. And no end in
> sight.
I don't think there's room in my brain for that. >.<
I'm not sure there's room in my brain to complete an entire ... Ooooh,
shiny!
Chucky & Janica
wrote:
>Turns out the brother didn't have it, and gave me a strange look when I
>asked if he'd bought a Wheel of Time book... I suppose it serves me
>right! Maybe I should just buy it myself, especialy given what you're
>saying about it being better and actually doing stuff! I'm trying to
>work out if I've missed any books between the last one I read and the
>new one...
>
>To the Wikipedia!
>
>Hmmm. I don't think I've read Knife of Dreams... Definitely read
>Winter's Heart, and I think I read the one after...
>
>Hmmm.
>
>Well, it's not like anything's going to have happened in KoD...
I don't recall anything happening in Knife of Dreams. Certainly not in
comparison to the things that happened in The Gathering Storm.
Although Knife of Dreams was a big improvement on Winter's Heart and
Crossroads of Twilight. We seem to recall agreeing (at least Janica
and I) that Knife of Dreams felt a bit more like classic Jordan, like
he was getting his mojo back and starting to get back into the story
and everything.
But yeah, can't remember anything much happening, even so.
>> Think "that great big creaking groaning blood-dripping juggernaut
>> dragged by the dead inside the sword dragnipur" when I say "the plot".
>> If you know what I mean.
>
>It's the juggernaut, bitch!
>
>> If you don't, then read some Erikson.
>
>I know my bitches. And my juggernauts. Dragonpurr sounds more to do with
>ASoIaF than WoT though!
I never said dragonpurr! Get off the road. *honk honk*
>> Or, you know, don't. Because they're like the Wheel of Time but with
>> more characters and countries and plots and pages. And no end in
>> sight.
>
>I don't think there's room in my brain for that. >.<
I tend to completely lose the plot every time I start to read a new
Erikson book, but that's okay because they tend not to connect up to
previous plots for a long time, and then when they do Erikson is
usually good enough to provide a bit of a reminder of what was going
on previously, for us slowpokes.
But then, I recently started to read Toll the Hounds, and it was
evidently just too long since I read the previous book. Lost the plot
and just never got it back again, and gave up and read Inkheart
instead.
>I'm not sure there's room in my brain to complete an entire ... Ooooh,
>shiny!
Yes, I polish them. Touching them is still sexual harrassment, though.
C&J
Laurence
> I don't recall anything happening in Knife of Dreams. Certainly not in
> comparison to the things that happened in The Gathering Storm.
Maybe I should investigate the library... I'm pretty sure we have at
least a couple within sensible distances. The other half keeps going to
them anyway!
> Although Knife of Dreams was a big improvement on Winter's Heart and
> Crossroads of Twilight. We seem to recall agreeing (at least Janica
> and I) that Knife of Dreams felt a bit more like classic Jordan, like
> he was getting his mojo back and starting to get back into the story
> and everything.
Hmmm. Might be worth trying to find... If it was like Winter's Heart,
then yeah, no point in reading it, could just start the next book. But
if ... actual plot happens! it might be worth at least skimming it.
That said, there's probably a plot summary on the interwebs somewhere
anyway. But that feels like cheating...
> I never said dragonpurr! Get off the road. *honk honk*
TOot toot!
Ummm.
That almost sounds like a skippy warning of some sort...
> Yes, I polish them. Touching them is still sexual harrassment, though.
I'm blind! Aaaaaaah!
Chucky & Janica
wrote:
>> I don't recall anything happening in Knife of Dreams. Certainly not in
>> comparison to the things that happened in The Gathering Storm.
>
>Maybe I should investigate the library... I'm pretty sure we have at
>least a couple within sensible distances. The other half keeps going to
>them anyway!
Have you ruled out the possibility that she's a crack addict?
Well, follow her anyway. If it turns out to be a library, get the
book. If it turns out to be a crack-house, well, they might still have
a copy.
It's win-win.
And also, do you have any idea of the argument-winning power of the
phrase, "yeah, well you're a crack addict."?
>Hmmm. Might be worth trying to find... If it was like Winter's Heart,
>then yeah, no point in reading it, could just start the next book. But
>if ... actual plot happens! it might be worth at least skimming it.
The last few books almost had to be skimmed. Even this most recent
one, it was tempting to skim some of the (rare) boring draggy
chapters.
And I don't mean the chapters where Rand dressed in women's clothing.
>That said, there's probably a plot summary on the interwebs somewhere
>anyway. But that feels like cheating...
Are you agonising over this, or just babbling back and forth in the
hopes that I will lose interest and walk away, thus saving you from
the effort of having to do anything? Because I will not walk away.
Laughing at you, however, I have not ruled out.
C&J
Laurence
>> Maybe I should investigate the library... I'm pretty sure we have at
>> least a couple within sensible distances. The other half keeps going to
>> them anyway!
>
> Have you ruled out the possibility that she's a crack addict?
That would explain a lot of things...
Like how she manages to put up with me.
> Well, follow her anyway. If it turns out to be a library, get the
> book. If it turns out to be a crack-house, well, they might still have
> a copy.
Because nothing gets people more in the mood for crack than reading Jordan.
> And I don't mean the chapters where Rand dressed in women's clothing.
*sniffs*
>> That said, there's probably a plot summary on the interwebs somewhere
>> anyway. But that feels like cheating...
>
> Are you agonising over this, or just babbling back and forth in the
> hopes that I will lose interest and walk away, thus saving you from
> the effort of having to do anything? Because I will not walk away.
Mostly just streaming words out through my fingers with little or no
filtering, tbh. So, yeah. Babbling. I still haven't got the book either...
Chucky & Janica
wrote:
>>> Maybe I should investigate the library... I'm pretty sure we have at
>>> least a couple within sensible distances. The other half keeps going to
>>> them anyway!
>>
>> Have you ruled out the possibility that she's a crack addict?
>
>That would explain a lot of things...
>
>Like how she manages to put up with me.
Hmm, I don't know, don't those drug addict types tend to be
highly-strung and jittery? I would have thought she would have even
less patience if she were a drug addict ... so maybe I misjudged.
Or maybe you're a part-time dealer. Is that what you were saying here?
Because if it is, I can't approve or condone.
>> Well, follow her anyway. If it turns out to be a library, get the
>> book. If it turns out to be a crack-house, well, they might still have
>> a copy.
>
>Because nothing gets people more in the mood for crack than reading Jordan.
Exactly.
Although the ironicality of this discussion on a Martin newsgroup
cannot be ignored.
>>> That said, there's probably a plot summary on the interwebs somewhere
>>> anyway. But that feels like cheating...
>>
>> Are you agonising over this, or just babbling back and forth in the
>> hopes that I will lose interest and walk away, thus saving you from
>> the effort of having to do anything? Because I will not walk away.
>
>Mostly just streaming words out through my fingers with little or no
>filtering, tbh. So, yeah. Babbling. I still haven't got the book either...
And look, I'm back and still not prepared to let this go.
C&J