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Butterbumps@Work
May 11, 2012, 1:21:52 PM5/11/12
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I agreed to co-post this with Jenny Chase, let's see if she shows up
to join in.
This is a CHapter Of the Week" for "A Dance With Dragons", book five
of "A Song of Ice and Fire" by "George R R. Martin". For a full list
of the "A Dance With Dragons" CHOW responsibles and links to the
completed works, go here: http://stchucky.wordpress.com/2011/10/24/chow-a-dance-with-dragons/
My cunt of a phone deleted my entire saved-up Davos CHOW and all the
fucking work I put into the shit of a chapter and the arse-sucking
plot points it brought up for discussion, so I will have to see about
re-writing the entire cock-shitting thing. But Jenny was also signed
up for this chapter so maybe she'll drop in with her version and
between us we'll cover all the piddly crap. If someone could send me a
new phone, Nokia C7 or better, I would take great pleasure in smashing
this one with a fucking hammer. I'll broadcast it on YouTube.
Davos I, or I'm Not Dead Yet
This chapter starts out a little bit in the past, sort of, prior to
Davos's apparent execution or faked-death in the previous book. So he
might still be due to die, or not. Very exciting.
It also finds him just after parting ways with Salladhor Saan and the
fleet that was meant to be Stannis's. They ran into some bad weather
and got their keels handed to them, so Saan has decided to take the
leftover ships and toddle off on his own, leaving Davos in a dingy for
old times' sake. Davos rowed into Sweetsister, one of the nasty little
nearby island communities (it may be a different island, my previous
version was well-researched but did I mention how my cunt of a phone
deleted it?), where he is promptly taken into custody while attempting
to buy passage to White Harbor and is taken to the keep of Breakwater,
yeah, Sisterton, Sweetsister, of the Three Sisters. It's all coming
back to me now, mainly because I had a grudging leaf back through, but
also because all you really need to remember is the word 'sister'.
Sweetsister is a scabby, sort of Tortuga-like place run by lord Godric
Borrell, a fat borderline-mutant guy whose sigil is the spider crab, a
legendary crimefighter of the islands' history who swung from a web
and pinched bad guys in socially awkward places. Davos is brought
before Borrell and maliciously fed some crab chowder.
Lord Borrell, who I'm pretty sure I remember is a bannerman of tubby-
arse Lord Wyman Manderly of the many failed hunger strikes for
vengeance league, or the Vale or someplace (okay, I looked it up, each
of the Three Sisters are sworn to Sunderland who rules the whole
place, and *he's* an Arryn bannerman but about as good at it as the
Freys and Boltons are, fat-arse Manderly doesn't come into it really),
chats a bit with Davos about current events and the future, and how
great the chowder is, having been made with three types of crab,
including spider crab. Look out, here comes spider crab (as the
minstrels sang). Yeah.
The main outcome of this chat is that the Sisters want to just go on
as usual and be nasty and inbred and gluttonous and slimy, and don't
really care who holds the throne. The implication at this point seems
to be that they'll let Davos go on to White Harbor and risk Manderly
pissing off the Lannisters, rather than guarantee Borrell pissing off
Stannis in the unlikely event he wins. If anyone at this stage can be
called a winner. Davos also learns that Tywin Lannister is dead and
that Manderly has made a pact with the Freys, which means Stannis is
royally screwed (probably his only remaining option as far as royal
anything is concerned) and Davos is too, if and when he ends up in
Manderly's clutches. Unless he can somehow stop the planned pact-
related marriages.
So the chapter ends with Davos agreeing that he had never been there,
and surviving to enjoy the island paradise for a little while longer.
And by 'island paradise', I seem to recall quipping in my original
much more clever and insightful version of this crotch-shitting
chapter, I mean 'nasty tawdry squalid little dump filled with
creatures who would be more at home in a Lovecraft story'.
Points for discussion
- Again, I had a few of these, but fucked if I can remember them now.
Discuss.
- Oh alright, one point that did come up and was quite interesting was
the new Ned Stark / Jon Snow story. Apparently at some point at the
start of the Baratheon uprising, Ned had to catch a ride with a
fisherman and his daughter, who he impregnated with Jon on the way.
The daughter, not the fisherman. The fisherman died on the way and the
daughter got them to the Sisters alive, and she named the bastard
after Jon Arryn. Lord Borrell Senior decided (much like this time
around with Davos) to quietly help him out rather than turn him in,
because they could see the way the winds were blowing. So, what's the
point of this addition? It seems a little weak, and a lot too late,
for additional false leads and alternate possibilities, although I
admit there are few better chapters, setting-wise, to put a bit of red
herring.
- I had more. Cunt it all, I had more.
- Oh yeah, apparently a couple of Saan's ships went down on Skagos, an
isle of 'unicorns and cannibals' where even 'the Blind Bastard' had
feared to land. Sounds like a fun place, will we ever see more? Who
was the Blind Bastard?
- The Manderlys came north nine hundred years before, settled in and
then apparently got too pushy, at which point 'the green hands slapped
them down', the Starks took their gold but let them have some land,
apparently leaving them around White Harbor. What are the green hands?
Something to do with the Reeds? The children of the forest? They were
chummy with the old, old Starks, weren't they?
- Anyone think, at this point, that Davos was going to die?
- How do you reckon the HBO version of Davos is going to piss Dana
off?
- Do you like chowder? I like chowder.
Gore-o-meter
Not a lot here. There's some hanging, and disembowelling-while-hanging
that made me wince the first time I was writing this cock-rotted CHOW,
due to the gastro-intestinal distress I was enjoying back in October
and November 2011. But really, not much. One flesh-gobbet out of five.
Sex-o-meter
Again, nothing. Sallador talks a lot about fucking, even going so far
as to point out that you can't roll a promise into bed and fuck it
until it squeals, but promises don't count. Half a heaving, sweating,
slow-motion HBO Dothraki dancer boob out of five.
Laff-o-meter
I had a chuckle at the mental image of Wolfspawn reading this chapter
and having a foamy-dog fit about the obese gluttony going on. And the
Sweetsister freaks, at least in the noble families, have webbed
fingers - and have had them for something like five thousand years.
That's not only funny, that's a really, really long time. That could
almost be a discussion point right there. That's almost evolutionary
timescale shit.
Final verdict
Good to see Davos alive and well and eating chowder. Let's move on.
to join in.
This is a CHapter Of the Week" for "A Dance With Dragons", book five
of "A Song of Ice and Fire" by "George R R. Martin". For a full list
of the "A Dance With Dragons" CHOW responsibles and links to the
completed works, go here: http://stchucky.wordpress.com/2011/10/24/chow-a-dance-with-dragons/
My cunt of a phone deleted my entire saved-up Davos CHOW and all the
fucking work I put into the shit of a chapter and the arse-sucking
plot points it brought up for discussion, so I will have to see about
re-writing the entire cock-shitting thing. But Jenny was also signed
up for this chapter so maybe she'll drop in with her version and
between us we'll cover all the piddly crap. If someone could send me a
new phone, Nokia C7 or better, I would take great pleasure in smashing
this one with a fucking hammer. I'll broadcast it on YouTube.
Davos I, or I'm Not Dead Yet
This chapter starts out a little bit in the past, sort of, prior to
Davos's apparent execution or faked-death in the previous book. So he
might still be due to die, or not. Very exciting.
It also finds him just after parting ways with Salladhor Saan and the
fleet that was meant to be Stannis's. They ran into some bad weather
and got their keels handed to them, so Saan has decided to take the
leftover ships and toddle off on his own, leaving Davos in a dingy for
old times' sake. Davos rowed into Sweetsister, one of the nasty little
nearby island communities (it may be a different island, my previous
version was well-researched but did I mention how my cunt of a phone
deleted it?), where he is promptly taken into custody while attempting
to buy passage to White Harbor and is taken to the keep of Breakwater,
yeah, Sisterton, Sweetsister, of the Three Sisters. It's all coming
back to me now, mainly because I had a grudging leaf back through, but
also because all you really need to remember is the word 'sister'.
Sweetsister is a scabby, sort of Tortuga-like place run by lord Godric
Borrell, a fat borderline-mutant guy whose sigil is the spider crab, a
legendary crimefighter of the islands' history who swung from a web
and pinched bad guys in socially awkward places. Davos is brought
before Borrell and maliciously fed some crab chowder.
Lord Borrell, who I'm pretty sure I remember is a bannerman of tubby-
arse Lord Wyman Manderly of the many failed hunger strikes for
vengeance league, or the Vale or someplace (okay, I looked it up, each
of the Three Sisters are sworn to Sunderland who rules the whole
place, and *he's* an Arryn bannerman but about as good at it as the
Freys and Boltons are, fat-arse Manderly doesn't come into it really),
chats a bit with Davos about current events and the future, and how
great the chowder is, having been made with three types of crab,
including spider crab. Look out, here comes spider crab (as the
minstrels sang). Yeah.
The main outcome of this chat is that the Sisters want to just go on
as usual and be nasty and inbred and gluttonous and slimy, and don't
really care who holds the throne. The implication at this point seems
to be that they'll let Davos go on to White Harbor and risk Manderly
pissing off the Lannisters, rather than guarantee Borrell pissing off
Stannis in the unlikely event he wins. If anyone at this stage can be
called a winner. Davos also learns that Tywin Lannister is dead and
that Manderly has made a pact with the Freys, which means Stannis is
royally screwed (probably his only remaining option as far as royal
anything is concerned) and Davos is too, if and when he ends up in
Manderly's clutches. Unless he can somehow stop the planned pact-
related marriages.
So the chapter ends with Davos agreeing that he had never been there,
and surviving to enjoy the island paradise for a little while longer.
And by 'island paradise', I seem to recall quipping in my original
much more clever and insightful version of this crotch-shitting
chapter, I mean 'nasty tawdry squalid little dump filled with
creatures who would be more at home in a Lovecraft story'.
Points for discussion
- Again, I had a few of these, but fucked if I can remember them now.
Discuss.
- Oh alright, one point that did come up and was quite interesting was
the new Ned Stark / Jon Snow story. Apparently at some point at the
start of the Baratheon uprising, Ned had to catch a ride with a
fisherman and his daughter, who he impregnated with Jon on the way.
The daughter, not the fisherman. The fisherman died on the way and the
daughter got them to the Sisters alive, and she named the bastard
after Jon Arryn. Lord Borrell Senior decided (much like this time
around with Davos) to quietly help him out rather than turn him in,
because they could see the way the winds were blowing. So, what's the
point of this addition? It seems a little weak, and a lot too late,
for additional false leads and alternate possibilities, although I
admit there are few better chapters, setting-wise, to put a bit of red
herring.
- I had more. Cunt it all, I had more.
- Oh yeah, apparently a couple of Saan's ships went down on Skagos, an
isle of 'unicorns and cannibals' where even 'the Blind Bastard' had
feared to land. Sounds like a fun place, will we ever see more? Who
was the Blind Bastard?
- The Manderlys came north nine hundred years before, settled in and
then apparently got too pushy, at which point 'the green hands slapped
them down', the Starks took their gold but let them have some land,
apparently leaving them around White Harbor. What are the green hands?
Something to do with the Reeds? The children of the forest? They were
chummy with the old, old Starks, weren't they?
- Anyone think, at this point, that Davos was going to die?
- How do you reckon the HBO version of Davos is going to piss Dana
off?
- Do you like chowder? I like chowder.
Gore-o-meter
Not a lot here. There's some hanging, and disembowelling-while-hanging
that made me wince the first time I was writing this cock-rotted CHOW,
due to the gastro-intestinal distress I was enjoying back in October
and November 2011. But really, not much. One flesh-gobbet out of five.
Sex-o-meter
Again, nothing. Sallador talks a lot about fucking, even going so far
as to point out that you can't roll a promise into bed and fuck it
until it squeals, but promises don't count. Half a heaving, sweating,
slow-motion HBO Dothraki dancer boob out of five.
Laff-o-meter
I had a chuckle at the mental image of Wolfspawn reading this chapter
and having a foamy-dog fit about the obese gluttony going on. And the
Sweetsister freaks, at least in the noble families, have webbed
fingers - and have had them for something like five thousand years.
That's not only funny, that's a really, really long time. That could
almost be a discussion point right there. That's almost evolutionary
timescale shit.
Final verdict
Good to see Davos alive and well and eating chowder. Let's move on.
John Vreeland
May 23, 2012, 3:12:39 PM5/23/12
to
On Fri, 11 May 2012 10:21:52 -0700 (PDT), "Butterbumps@Work"
<st.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
>I agreed to co-post this with Jenny Chase, let's see if she shows up
>to join in.
>
>This is a CHapter Of the Week" for "A Dance With Dragons", book five
>of "A Song of Ice and Fire" by "George R R. Martin". For a full list
>of the "A Dance With Dragons" CHOW responsibles and links to the
>completed works, go here: http://stchucky.wordpress.com/2011/10/24/chow-a-dance-with-dragons/
I's pronounced CHOW-DAH
<st.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
>I agreed to co-post this with Jenny Chase, let's see if she shows up
>to join in.
>
>This is a CHapter Of the Week" for "A Dance With Dragons", book five
>of "A Song of Ice and Fire" by "George R R. Martin". For a full list
>of the "A Dance With Dragons" CHOW responsibles and links to the
>completed works, go here: http://stchucky.wordpress.com/2011/10/24/chow-a-dance-with-dragons/
[lame excuses snippped]
>Davos I, or I'm Not Dead Yet
>
>This chapter starts out a little bit in the past, sort of, prior to
>Davos's apparent execution or faked-death in the previous book. So he
>might still be due to die, or not. Very exciting.
with Gilly was handled.
>It also finds him just after parting ways with Salladhor Saan and the
>fleet that was meant to be Stannis's. They ran into some bad weather
>and got their keels handed to them, so Saan has decided to take the
>leftover ships and toddle off on his own, leaving Davos in a dingy for
>old times' sake.
that ship for a long while.
> Davos rowed into Sweetsister, one of the nasty little
>nearby island communities
>Sweetsister is a scabby, sort of Tortuga-like place run by lord Godric
>Borrell, a fat borderline-mutant guy whose sigil is the spider crab, a
>legendary crimefighter of the islands' history who swung from a web
>and pinched bad guys in socially awkward places. Davos is brought
>before Borrell and maliciously fed some crab chowder.
Like a streak of rain, he arrives just in time?
>Borrell, a fat borderline-mutant guy whose sigil is the spider crab, a
>legendary crimefighter of the islands' history who swung from a web
>and pinched bad guys in socially awkward places. Davos is brought
>before Borrell and maliciously fed some crab chowder.
>Lord Borrell, who I'm pretty sure I remember is a bannerman of ...
> Sunderland who rules the whole
>place, and *he's* an Arryn bannerman but about as good at it as the
>Freys and Boltons are,
>place, and *he's* an Arryn bannerman but about as good at it as the
>Freys and Boltons are,
>chats a bit with Davos about current events and the future, and how
>great the chowder is, having been made with three types of crab,
>including spider crab. Look out, here comes spider crab (as the
>minstrels sang). Yeah.
Friendly neighborhood spider crab. Of course the Arryns are .. what,
>great the chowder is, having been made with three types of crab,
>including spider crab. Look out, here comes spider crab (as the
>minstrels sang). Yeah.
neutral? No, Petyr Baelish is in command now. Interesting. What would
he do with Lord Davos? Pity we shall never find out.
>The main outcome of this chat is that the Sisters want to just go on
>as usual and be nasty and inbred and gluttonous and slimy, and don't
>really care who holds the throne. The implication at this point seems
>to be that they'll let Davos go on to White Harbor and risk Manderly
>pissing off the Lannisters, rather than guarantee Borrell pissing off
>Stannis in the unlikely event he wins. If anyone at this stage can be
>called a winner. Davos also learns that Tywin Lannister is dead and
>that Manderly has made a pact with the Freys, which means Stannis is
>royally screwed (probably his only remaining option as far as royal
>anything is concerned) and Davos is too, if and when he ends up in
>Manderly's clutches. Unless he can somehow stop the planned pact-
>related marriages.
>
>So the chapter ends with Davos agreeing that he had never been there,
>and surviving to enjoy the island paradise for a little while longer.
>And by 'island paradise', I seem to recall quipping in my original
>much more clever and insightful version of this crotch-shitting
>chapter, I mean 'nasty tawdry squalid little dump filled with
>creatures who would be more at home in a Lovecraft story'.
>Points for discussion
>
>- Again, I had a few of these, but fucked if I can remember them now.
>Discuss.
>
>- Oh alright, one point that did come up and was quite interesting was
>the new Ned Stark / Jon Snow story. Apparently at some point at the
>start of the Baratheon uprising, Ned had to catch a ride with a
>fisherman and his daughter, who he impregnated with Jon on the way.
>The daughter, not the fisherman. The fisherman died on the way and the
>daughter got them to the Sisters alive, and she named the bastard
>after Jon Arryn. Lord Borrell Senior decided (much like this time
>around with Davos) to quietly help him out rather than turn him in,
>because they could see the way the winds were blowing. So, what's the
>point of this addition? It seems a little weak, and a lot too late,
>for additional false leads and alternate possibilities, although I
>admit there are few better chapters, setting-wise, to put a bit of red
>herring.
the sort of rumour Ned Stark woul dallow to start in order to hide the
truth if Jon were his nephew.
We can still be fairly certain that his sister had a baby, and he
promised her to keep her secret. Something had to happen to that baby.
>- Oh yeah, apparently a couple of Saan's ships went down on Skagos, an
>isle of 'unicorns and cannibals' where even 'the Blind Bastard' had
>feared to land. Sounds like a fun place, will we ever see more? Who
>was the Blind Bastard?
Could it be worse than the lands north of the Wall? They are
technically Stark bannermen, aren't they? Even if they speak the Old
tongue.
>- The Manderlys came north nine hundred years before, settled in and
>then apparently got too pushy, at which point 'the green hands slapped
>them down', the Starks took their gold but let them have some land,
>apparently leaving them around White Harbor. What are the green hands?
>Something to do with the Reeds? The children of the forest? They were
>chummy with the old, old Starks, weren't they?
seeem to have been observers, not doers.
>- Anyone think, at this point, that Davos was going to die?
He has one again next chapter. Must really build his character in odd
ways.
Oh, more time in a dank prison cell waiting to be killed.
>- How do you reckon the HBO version of Davos is going to piss Dana
>off?
>- Do you like chowder? I like chowder.
accents. It's CHOW-DAH.
White Harbah? You can't get they-h from he-ah.
>Gore-o-meter
>
>Not a lot here. There's some hanging, and disembowelling-while-hanging
>that made me wince the first time I was writing this cock-rotted CHOW,
>due to the gastro-intestinal distress I was enjoying back in October
>and November 2011. But really, not much. One flesh-gobbet out of five.
>
>Sex-o-meter
>
>Again, nothing. Sallador talks a lot about fucking, even going so far
>as to point out that you can't roll a promise into bed and fuck it
>until it squeals, but promises don't count. Half a heaving, sweating,
>slow-motion HBO Dothraki dancer boob out of five.
dreams about her.
>Laff-o-meter
>
>I had a chuckle at the mental image of Wolfspawn reading this chapter
>and having a foamy-dog fit about the obese gluttony going on. And the
>Sweetsister freaks, at least in the noble families, have webbed
>fingers - and have had them for something like five thousand years.
>That's not only funny, that's a really, really long time. That could
>almost be a discussion point right there. That's almost evolutionary
>timescale shit.
>
>Final verdict
>
>Good to see Davos alive and well and eating chowder. Let's move on.
of years. In the real world it is amazing that anything lasts for
hundreds of years.
I would divide all of GRRM's time lines by a factor of five or ten to
make them practiceable. The Night's Watch has been a going concern for
ten thousand years? Try one thousand years. That is still fucking
awesome.
How many institutions in our own world can you think of that have
lasted so long? Maybe the English monarchy. I cannot think of another.
--
Some aspects of life would be a lot easier if Creationists were required to carry warning signs. Fortunately, many of them already do.
Butterbumps@Work
May 24, 2012, 7:11:43 AM5/24/12
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On May 23, 10:12 pm, John Vreeland <john.vreel...@ieee.org> wrote:
> >This is a CHapter Of the Week" for "A Dance With Dragons", book five
> >of "A Song of Ice and Fire" by "George R R. Martin". For a full list
> >of the "A Dance With Dragons" CHOW responsibles and links to the
> >completed works, go here:http://stchucky.wordpress.com/2011/10/24/chow-a-dance-with-dragons/
>
> I's pronounced CHOW-DAH
Say it, Frenchie!
> >This is a CHapter Of the Week" for "A Dance With Dragons", book five
> >of "A Song of Ice and Fire" by "George R R. Martin". For a full list
> >of the "A Dance With Dragons" CHOW responsibles and links to the
> >completed works, go here:http://stchucky.wordpress.com/2011/10/24/chow-a-dance-with-dragons/
>
> I's pronounced CHOW-DAH
> [lame excuses snippped]
Hey! They were top-shelf excuses.
> >Lord Borrell, who I'm pretty sure I remember is a bannerman of ...
> > Sunderland who rules the whole
> >place, and *he's* an Arryn bannerman but about as good at it as the
> >Freys and Boltons are,
> >chats a bit with Davos about current events and the future, and how
> >great the chowder is, having been made with three types of crab,
> >including spider crab. Look out, here comes spider crab (as the
> >minstrels sang). Yeah.
>
> Friendly neighborhood spider crab.
> Of course the Arryns are .. what,
> neutral? No, Petyr Baelish is in command now. Interesting. What would
> he do with Lord Davos? Pity we shall never find out.
stage? They seem pretty out of touch.
As far as I can put together, the Arryns under Lysa would have been
heavily anti-Lannister. But under Littlefinger, less actively so.
> >So the chapter ends with Davos agreeing that he had never been there,
> >and surviving to enjoy the island paradise for a little while longer.
> >And by 'island paradise', I seem to recall quipping in my original
> >much more clever and insightful version of this crotch-shitting
> >chapter, I mean 'nasty tawdry squalid little dump filled with
> >creatures who would be more at home in a Lovecraft story'.
>
> Now that was unneccessary.
And the nasty.
> >- Oh alright, one point that did come up and was quite interesting was
> >the new Ned Stark / Jon Snow story. Apparently at some point at the
> >start of the Baratheon uprising, Ned had to catch a ride with a
> >fisherman and his daughter, who he impregnated with Jon on the way.
> >The daughter, not the fisherman. The fisherman died on the way and the
> >daughter got them to the Sisters alive, and she named the bastard
> >after Jon Arryn. Lord Borrell Senior decided (much like this time
> >around with Davos) to quietly help him out rather than turn him in,
> >because they could see the way the winds were blowing. So, what's the
> >point of this addition? It seems a little weak, and a lot too late,
> >for additional false leads and alternate possibilities, although I
> >admit there are few better chapters, setting-wise, to put a bit of red
> >herring.
>
> I don't know if we can trust that story at all. It would be exactly
> truth if Jon were his nephew.
But this is the first we hear of it. If he went around starting
rumours like this (or even "allowing" them to start, which really
doesn't mesh with the Ned *I* read about, but maybe if you ignore that
too...), surely there would have been more floating around for the
first few books. It just seems like a weird addition.
I'm certainly not thinking it's what happened, of course. Although
that would be funny. And make a lot more sense than certain other
possibilities.
> We can still be fairly certain that his sister had a baby, and he
> promised her to keep her secret. Something had to happen to that baby.
*not very hopeful*
Wouldn't be the first.
But the point is (and most of the dumber Jon Snow Thaerists seem to be
ignoring this element of the thing), lost princes can suddenly show up
out of nowhere and be conveniently retcon-explained with a backstory
nobody ever suspected, *five books in*. Martin is essentially telling
us, "your thaeries are adorable, but I'm telling this story and if I
want to make you all look like muppets, it's just this easy, watch ...
in fact, I'm going to type this next paragraph, explaining how Arya is
actually Rhaegar's daughter from Wylla, using my penis. Just a heads-
up, because as a result of this move there will be a lot of numbers
scattered through the first draft on account of my gut overhanging my
genitals."
Endquote.
> >- Oh yeah, apparently a couple of Saan's ships went down on Skagos, an
> >isle of 'unicorns and cannibals' where even 'the Blind Bastard' had
> >feared to land. Sounds like a fun place, will we ever see more? Who
> >was the Blind Bastard?
>
> Well, we are going to Skagos with Davos next book, so we shall see.
> Could it be worse than the lands north of the Wall? They are
> technically Stark bannermen, aren't they? Even if they speak the Old
> tongue.
*kicks flayed corpse under the desk*
> >- The Manderlys came north nine hundred years before, settled in and
> >then apparently got too pushy, at which point 'the green hands slapped
> >them down', the Starks took their gold but let them have some land,
> >apparently leaving them around White Harbor. What are the green hands?
> >Something to do with the Reeds? The children of the forest? They were
> >chummy with the old, old Starks, weren't they?
>
> I forgot that. No idea. Somethign to do with the Green men? but they
> seeem to have been observers, not doers.
the First Men? Don't remember them either.
> >- Anyone think, at this point, that Davos was going to die?
>
> Not really. He seems to get into these situations and out again alive.
> He has one again next chapter. Must really build his character in odd
> ways.
>
> Oh, more time in a dank prison cell waiting to be killed.
His diary would probably be a desperate mix of boredom and depression.
Now entering the Seaworth Family, pop. 6, I mean 4, I mean 1.
> >Good to see Davos alive and well and eating chowder. Let's move on.
>
> It is an unfortunate trope in fiction that things last for thousands
> of years. In the real world it is amazing that anything lasts for
> hundreds of years.
> I would divide all of GRRM's time lines by a factor of five or ten to
> make them practiceable. The Night's Watch has been a going concern for
> ten thousand years? Try one thousand years. That is still fucking
> awesome.
> How many institutions in our own world can you think of that have
> lasted so long? Maybe the English monarchy. I cannot think of another.
B@w
--
No, I'm not going to drop your stupid remark about "ignoring"
character traits and acts while formulating an opinion of them. Thanks
for asking.
Dana
May 24, 2012, 7:07:34 PM5/24/12
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On May 11, 12:21 pm, "Butterbumps@Work" <st.chu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> - How do you reckon the HBO version of Davos is going to piss Dana
> off?
Just by appearance mainly. Davos sounds Greek and so I always
> - How do you reckon the HBO version of Davos is going to piss Dana
> off?
pictured him as a dark haired, swarthy Greek fisherman type.
Possibly even with the Greek fisherman's hat that GRRM likes to sport
now and then.
HBO Davos doesn't look the part to me, but this I will agree is a
small thing.
You could actually swap the casting around for Stannis and Davos and
I'd say it was closer.
Butterbumps@Work
May 25, 2012, 4:44:35 AM5/25/12
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On May 25, 2:07 am, Dana <limod...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > - How do you reckon the HBO version of Davos is going to piss Dana
> > off?
>
> Just by appearance mainly. Davos sounds Greek and so I always
> pictured him as a dark haired, swarthy Greek fisherman type.
> Possibly even with the Greek fisherman's hat that GRRM likes to sport
> now and then.
Fair enough, I always pictured him rather like Captain Haddock in
> > - How do you reckon the HBO version of Davos is going to piss Dana
> > off?
>
> Just by appearance mainly. Davos sounds Greek and so I always
> pictured him as a dark haired, swarthy Greek fisherman type.
> Possibly even with the Greek fisherman's hat that GRRM likes to sport
> now and then.
Tintin, but then I do that for most sailor-characters in books.
> HBO Davos doesn't look the part to me, but this I will agree is a
> small thing.
>
> You could actually swap the casting around for Stannis and Davos and
> I'd say it was closer.
B@w
--
Also, apparently I'm not allowed to make comments or questions until
I've seen the show. Oh wait, no, that's not right. What I meant to say
was "fuck you, you'll read my opinions and like them, you little
pussy."
Dana
May 25, 2012, 11:43:26 AM5/25/12
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On May 25, 3:44 am, "Butterbumps@Work" <st.chu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 25, 2:07 am, Dana <limod...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > - How do you reckon the HBO version of Davos is going to piss Dana
> > > off?
>
> > Just by appearance mainly. Davos sounds Greek and so I always
> > pictured him as a dark haired, swarthy Greek fisherman type.
> > Possibly even with the Greek fisherman's hat that GRRM likes to sport
> > now and then.
>
> Fair enough, I always pictured him rather like Captain Haddock in
> Tintin, but then I do that for most sailor-characters in books.
Same basic dark / black haired / bearded look. I could go along with
> On May 25, 2:07 am, Dana <limod...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > - How do you reckon the HBO version of Davos is going to piss Dana
> > > off?
>
> > Just by appearance mainly. Davos sounds Greek and so I always
> > pictured him as a dark haired, swarthy Greek fisherman type.
> > Possibly even with the Greek fisherman's hat that GRRM likes to sport
> > now and then.
>
> Fair enough, I always pictured him rather like Captain Haddock in
> Tintin, but then I do that for most sailor-characters in books.
that, in different garb.
John Vreeland
May 26, 2012, 3:57:16 PM5/26/12
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