> It consistently amazes me the definition of "poor" or "below the
> poverty-line" in the USA.
> Things that are defined as absolute necessities today; versus when I
> was growing up. Now WE were poor. We weren't starving; but there
> were very little of those things now defined as necessities that we
> had.
> No TV, and the only radios we had were those that *I* personally fixed
> from junkers thrown out by neighbors.
> The only television I ever saw was when passing by a furniture store
> and peeked in the big plate-glass windows. Even then, I couldn't hear
> the sound.
> We didn't have a car ... WAY too expensive. The whole family got
> around on busses. Of course, THAT city had darned good bus-service.
> Twenty cents (or was it twenty-five) and with transfers, you could get
> to within about five blocks of anywhere in the city. Later, we all
> got bicycles and got around that way.
> I never tasted a hamburger until I was 18 and in the marines.
> During that same time, I had ONE ice-cream-cone.
> That was bought for us kids as a treat by my uncle when he came out to
> visit Mom from the East Coast. Dairy-Queen "The Cone with the curl on
> top!" I think it cost five cents a cone back then.
> But, it's pop that makes me wonder about modern "Poor kids".
> Most people in the US, drink pop like it was free water.
> Depriving a kid of pop ....
> Yes, I DID drink SOME pop when I was a kid.
> Only ONE bottle (Of 7-up) was ever bought by Mom; and that because of
> the concussion when the doctor said it would be good for me.
> Every OTHER bottle (all *bottles* back then) us kids ever got, we paid
> for ourselves; usually by going around the neighborhood collecting
> beer and pop bottles and returning them to the local store. About
> five returned bottles would pay for one full bottle ... and then we'd
> turn THAT bottle in for redemption.
> However, walk into just about any really poor family's home today,
> even if the kids are practically living on pancakes and syrup (about
> the cheapest food outside of rice ... all calories and little else)
> and you'll probably find CASES of Diet-Coke and other crap, with no
> food-value at all. Go figure.
> The whole family is getting FAT on a diet of almost pure starch and
> sugar ... So they buy cases of diet soda to cut down on calories.
> Milk ... Costing less than half the price of soda-pop?
> "Milk is for BABIES!"
> Yeah, yeah, I know:
> "Grandpa used to walk ten miles to school through hip-deep snow ...
> Barefoot, and uphill both ways!"
> Well ... OK ... The DRIFTS were hip-high to a kid where the snowplow
> had tossed them alongside the road. One time he missed the bus and
> had to walk home ... but that was summer. And yeah, he once lost a
> shoe in a snowbank. As for "uphill both ways": There was a hill
> between home and school ... not very big; but there.
> Grandpa didn't LIE, exactly.
Is growing up in poverty what inspired you to write sick pedophile
rape stories?
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> On Sep 29, 10:50 pm, Frank McCoy <mcc...@millcomm.com> wrote:
>> It consistently amazes me the definition of "poor" or "below the
>> poverty-line" in the USA.
>> Things that are defined as absolute necessities today; versus when I
>> was growing up. Now WE were poor. We weren't starving; but there
>> were very little of those things now defined as necessities that we
>> had.
>> No TV, and the only radios we had were those that *I* personally
>> fixed from junkers thrown out by neighbors.
>> The only television I ever saw was when passing by a furniture store
>> and peeked in the big plate-glass windows. Even then, I couldn't hear
>> the sound.
>> We didn't have a car ... WAY too expensive. The whole family got
>> around on busses. Of course, THAT city had darned good bus-service.
>> Twenty cents (or was it twenty-five) and with transfers, you could
>> get to within about five blocks of anywhere in the city. Later, we
>> all got bicycles and got around that way.
>> I never tasted a hamburger until I was 18 and in the marines.
>> During that same time, I had ONE ice-cream-cone.
>> That was bought for us kids as a treat by my uncle when he came out
>> to visit Mom from the East Coast. Dairy-Queen "The Cone with the
>> curl on top!" I think it cost five cents a cone back then.
>> But, it's pop that makes me wonder about modern "Poor kids".
>> Most people in the US, drink pop like it was free water.
>> Depriving a kid of pop ....
>> Yes, I DID drink SOME pop when I was a kid.
>> Only ONE bottle (Of 7-up) was ever bought by Mom; and that because of
>> the concussion when the doctor said it would be good for me.
>> Every OTHER bottle (all *bottles* back then) us kids ever got, we
>> paid for ourselves; usually by going around the neighborhood
>> collecting beer and pop bottles and returning them to the local
>> store. About five returned bottles would pay for one full bottle ...
>> and then we'd turn THAT bottle in for redemption.
>> However, walk into just about any really poor family's home today,
>> even if the kids are practically living on pancakes and syrup (about
>> the cheapest food outside of rice ... all calories and little else)
>> and you'll probably find CASES of Diet-Coke and other crap, with no
>> food-value at all. Go figure.
>> The whole family is getting FAT on a diet of almost pure starch and
>> sugar ... So they buy cases of diet soda to cut down on calories.
>> Milk ... Costing less than half the price of soda-pop?
>> "Milk is for BABIES!"
>> Yeah, yeah, I know:
>> "Grandpa used to walk ten miles to school through hip-deep snow ...
>> Barefoot, and uphill both ways!"
>> Well ... OK ... The DRIFTS were hip-high to a kid where the snowplow
>> had tossed them alongside the road. One time he missed the bus and
>> had to walk home ... but that was summer. And yeah, he once lost a
>> shoe in a snowbank. As for "uphill both ways": There was a hill
>> between home and school ... not very big; but there.
>> Grandpa didn't LIE, exactly.
> Is growing up in poverty what inspired you to write sick pedophile
> rape stories?
> > On Sep 29, 10:50 pm, Frank McCoy <mcc...@millcomm.com> wrote:
> >> It consistently amazes me the definition of "poor" or "below the
> >> poverty-line" in the USA.
> >> Things that are defined as absolute necessities today; versus when I
> >> was growing up. Now WE were poor. We weren't starving; but there
> >> were very little of those things now defined as necessities that we
> >> had.
> >> No TV, and the only radios we had were those that *I* personally
> >> fixed from junkers thrown out by neighbors.
> >> The only television I ever saw was when passing by a furniture store
> >> and peeked in the big plate-glass windows. Even then, I couldn't hear
> >> the sound.
> >> We didn't have a car ... WAY too expensive. The whole family got
> >> around on busses. Of course, THAT city had darned good bus-service.
> >> Twenty cents (or was it twenty-five) and with transfers, you could
> >> get to within about five blocks of anywhere in the city. Later, we
> >> all got bicycles and got around that way.
> >> I never tasted a hamburger until I was 18 and in the marines.
> >> During that same time, I had ONE ice-cream-cone.
> >> That was bought for us kids as a treat by my uncle when he came out
> >> to visit Mom from the East Coast. Dairy-Queen "The Cone with the
> >> curl on top!" I think it cost five cents a cone back then.
> >> But, it's pop that makes me wonder about modern "Poor kids".
> >> Most people in the US, drink pop like it was free water.
> >> Depriving a kid of pop ....
> >> Yes, I DID drink SOME pop when I was a kid.
> >> Only ONE bottle (Of 7-up) was ever bought by Mom; and that because of
> >> the concussion when the doctor said it would be good for me.
> >> Every OTHER bottle (all *bottles* back then) us kids ever got, we
> >> paid for ourselves; usually by going around the neighborhood
> >> collecting beer and pop bottles and returning them to the local
> >> store. About five returned bottles would pay for one full bottle ...
> >> and then we'd turn THAT bottle in for redemption.
> >> However, walk into just about any really poor family's home today,
> >> even if the kids are practically living on pancakes and syrup (about
> >> the cheapest food outside of rice ... all calories and little else)
> >> and you'll probably find CASES of Diet-Coke and other crap, with no
> >> food-value at all. Go figure.
> >> The whole family is getting FAT on a diet of almost pure starch and
> >> sugar ... So they buy cases of diet soda to cut down on calories.
> >> Milk ... Costing less than half the price of soda-pop?
> >> "Milk is for BABIES!"
> >> Yeah, yeah, I know:
> >> "Grandpa used to walk ten miles to school through hip-deep snow ...
> >> Barefoot, and uphill both ways!"
> >> Well ... OK ... The DRIFTS were hip-high to a kid where the snowplow
> >> had tossed them alongside the road. One time he missed the bus and
> >> had to walk home ... but that was summer. And yeah, he once lost a
> >> shoe in a snowbank. As for "uphill both ways": There was a hill
> >> between home and school ... not very big; but there.
> >> Grandpa didn't LIE, exactly.
> > Is growing up in poverty what inspired you to write sick pedophile
> > rape stories?
> who cares what americans do
bin laden?
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inside of his garage"~~The Charlie Daniels Band.
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around" ~Scott Allen Salberg, Resident Fool & Court Jester of APH
........................................................................... ....................
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........................................................................... ..............
"Did you plug the hole yet Daddy?"~~Malia Obama
........................................................................... ..............
Now I know why they call him tiger, "ELDRICK TONT Woods"??
LMAO!! .
........................................................................... ...................
"There are 1000 or more reasons for a person INNOCENT of child
molesting to kill themselves"~ Arrested filth-monger frank mccoy
........................................................................... ..................
"A victory for one pornographer is a victory for all of the human
race"--pedophile "XXX"
........................................................................... ................
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"I am so superior to you that you can't even see it"~ScottyFLL
aka "Enos Penvy" aka scott salberg-- <enospenvy @null.net>
violent criminal Broward County Fla.
........................................................................... .................
"You are not decent citizens, you are sick, degenerate filth. The
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<m14m @earthlink.net>
........................................................................... ..................
"Only becasue they [bestiality and necrophilia] both ARE,
[harmless] for those who get off on that sort of thing. And what
*they* do is absolutely NONE of my busines NOR any of my concern NOR
that of anyone else!!"~~Craig Chilton <r @z.com> showcases why he's
designated a ko0k even by those he claims to defend and shows his
ignorance in using a spell checker..
........................................................................... ..................
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around forever, and are clearly a force to be reckoned with"~~Carl
<carrrrrrl @gmail.com> makes a correct statement for the first time
in
his life
........................................................................... ...................
Why should I have to press one for English??? This is AMERICA
<This space for rent>
>Is growing up in poverty what inspired you to write sick pedophile
>rape stories?
Don't write rape stories. Despise force of any kind.
Most of my stories were inspired by lack-of-sex when I reached
puberty; and the mistaken impression that everybody ELSE, especially
if a girl, was getting lots. After all, a girl only has to *hint*
that she wants sex to get all she'd ever dream of getting. Doesn't
she? So, I had/have wet-dreams about getting what I thought as a
teenager that everybody else was having: Lots and lots of sex. Yes,
being poor probably had *something* to do with that mistaken
impression. After all, all the OTHER, far more well-off boys were
going-out-with girls and DATING them; and that's the same thing ...
right?
Yeah, right.
Well ... OK ... SOME did.
But that's what most of my stories are based-on: That mistaken
impression. So, my "typical" story is about a young girl who goes
looking for sex; and not-surprisingly FINDS lots of it. The reason
for it usually being a young girl not a boy, is because supposedly
girls can GET a lot more sex by just saying yes. (See above logic.)
What's completely unrealistic about my stories isn't that; but the
completely upside-down reactions of parents. It's parental worry
about their little girls having sex that makes said parents keep their
sexy and nubile young daughters away from horny boys ... and yes, men
too. For some reason, most parents don't worry so much about leaving
their young boys alone with young girls, like the fathers of young
girls do about leaving the girls alone with horny young boys.
For some reason though, mothers aren't *quite* as protective of their
little girls as their husbands are. I guess it's because THEY don't
have the memories the fathers do of being a horny and oversexed
teenager.
So ... Fantasies about young girls not only *getting* all the sex they
want and have wet-dreams about (not really all that weird) but being
*allowed* and even *encouraged* by parents to do-so.
Now THAT just is NOT what our society expects.
Note: OUR society.
That's why most of my stories postulate completely different societies
... Ones where sex is encouraged as being healthy exercise, not viewed
as a SIN inspired by the Devil.
And yes, there HAVE been such societies. Rare, but they did and even
do exist. Just not right now in most "First World Countries". About
fourth-world, I think.
Notice: *NO* rape!
Yeah, OUR society calls a late-teen letting himself be seduced by a
young girl "Statutory Rape" on the part of the teenager. That just
demeans the real thing.
Well ... You ASKED.
I've answered the question before.
Probably, like usual, you weren't listening; blabbing your mouth
instead.
> Calling somebody older being seduced by somebody younger "rape",
When that "person" is a preteen child, yes, it IS considered rape
frank. Children are not old enough to give consent and a grown man
should know better.
> demeans the real thing ... As I said; and you ignored.
> "Statutory Rape" is not rape.
> Don't conflate the two.
> I don't write rape stories.
From franks own site:
''Frank McCoy is a man who started writing sex stories for his own
enjoyment, and later started publishing them on the internet (in
alt.sex.stories) when he found out that other people were interested
in reading them''
''His stories mostly involve incest, (family members having sex)
pedophilia, (young children having sex) pregnancy (yes, having babies)
and quite often several other quirks as well''.
"young children having babies"???? Don't you think that's a little
demented?
''These stories (with a few notable exceptions) are usually completely
consensual (That means that all parties involved want to do whatever
they are doing.) and are basically love-stories. Even though most
people might consider this "abuse," nobody (with the above noted
exceptions) gets abused in his stories''
So you DO write "exceptions" ... liar
''If a little girl has sex, (gets fucked) it's because she wants to
get fucked, and asks for it''
Ohhhh, according to phreeky frank if a preteen girl "asks" for it it's
perfectly ok.
''Thanking Obama for killing Bin Laden is like thanking Ronald
McDonald for the Big Mac. You thank the one who made the
burger, not the clown''
"Well he's a friend of those long haired, hippy type, pinko fags
I'll betcha he's even got a Commie flag tacked up on the wall
inside of his garage"~~The Charlie Daniels Band.
"I think we'll be seeing less of bobandcarole...at least while I'm
around" ~Scott Allen Salberg, Resident Fool & Court Jester of APH
........................................................................... ....................
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........................................................................... ............
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Cooper
........................................................................... ..............
"Did you plug the hole yet Daddy?"~~Malia Obama
........................................................................... ..............
Now I know why they call him tiger, "ELDRICK TONT Woods"??
LMAO!! .
........................................................................... ...................
"There are 1000 or more reasons for a person INNOCENT of child
molesting to kill themselves"~ Arrested filth-monger frank mccoy
........................................................................... ..................
"A victory for one pornographer is a victory for all of the human
race"--pedophile "XXX"
........................................................................... ................
Image snap of Court and Conviction Record, Scott Salberg.
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u20/ninety7gt/Intelius.jpg ........................................................................... ...............
"I am so superior to you that you can't even see it"~ScottyFLL
aka "Enos Penvy" aka scott salberg-- <enospenvy @null.net>
violent criminal Broward County Fla.
........................................................................... .................
"You are not decent citizens, you are sick, degenerate filth. The
fact that you attend church regularly proves it"~W.T.S.--
<m14m @earthlink.net>
........................................................................... ..................
"Only becasue they [bestiality and necrophilia] both ARE,
[harmless] for those who get off on that sort of thing. And what
*they* do is absolutely NONE of my busines NOR any of my concern NOR
that of anyone else!!"~~Craig Chilton <r @z.com> showcases why he's
designated a ko0k even by those he claims to defend and shows his
ignorance in using a spell checker..
........................................................................... ..................
"I understand, you guys{The UTB} i assume you belong? have been
around forever, and are clearly a force to be reckoned with"~~Carl
<carrrrrrl @gmail.com> makes a correct statement for the first time
in
his life
........................................................................... ...................
Why should I have to press one for English??? This is AMERICA
<This space for rent>
<usenetlegends00...@gmail.com> wrote:
>"young children having babies"???? Don't you think that's a little
>demented?
It DOES happen in real-life.
Don't you think it's a bit demented to ignore things that DO happen,
either because they're rare or because our particular society says
they aren't acceptable?
If the first, we should ignore lightning and volcano eruptions because
most people never are affected by any.
If the second, then we should ignore the reality of terrorism and
murder? Or, how about "children" seducing teachers. Happens every
day in every state in the union; and not just once or twice.
Should we ignore the reality of societies OTHER than our own, where
"children" (as WE define them, not their definition) get married and
have children of their own ... and have-done-so not just for
centuries, but millennia ... but WE want to force OUR societies mores
down THEIR throats. Or, as you suggest, not even admit they exist or
ever existed.
And yes: writing STORIES about things that are both rare and not
socially-acceptable, is exactly what most popular authors DO.
Look at the contents of most murder-mysteries, Westerns, and even
Romance-novels.
My stories just are a bit more ... extreme.
And yet ... SOME of what they cover really does/did/or do happen.
"Simply close your eyes, and reality will go away!"
<usenetlegends00...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Ohhhh, according to phreeky frank if a preteen girl "asks" for it it's
>perfectly ok.
Never once SAID that.
Some of my stories DO imply it; but THAT is in other societies!
No: "According to Frank if a preteen girl 'asks' for it it's not
*rape*."
According to our society and our laws, it's NOT OK.
And, not once did or do I ever recommend it.
I'll admit though, that most of my stories are propaganda; and not
very thinly-veiled propaganda at that. Mostly aimed at silly laws
against things like adult-sibling-incest; but far MORE so against laws
against describing in stories the very REAL things that do go on.
Even, or perhaps MORE-SO the unwritten laws that publishers enforce:
OK ... "Rules", not laws; but perhaps more adamant than laws.
1. Women just DO NOT want to get pregnant; and certainly not by anybody they aren't married-to. If they did (NEVER EVER do) it was an accident or they got raped ... REAL rape.
2. Incest just does NOT exist.
3. All people having sex are over 18.
(THAT is downright SILLY! MOST people start having sex at puberty
or possibly just before or just after.)
4. Interracial sex does not exist, except as rape.
5. Kids don't even think about sex until they're at least 16.
Etc.
Yet these rules are completely ACCEPTED without even argument.
If the First Amendment MEANS anything at all, then writing STORIES
about things that might/could/do happen should be protected.
Thus MY stories: Attacking every one of the above rules.
Silly, stupid, and completely unreal rules.
But, rules put into place by religious fanatics who think sex is evil
and probably an invention of the Devil.
So ... I write stories completely exaggerating reality; but still
staying JUST within the realms of possibility; all pretty much showing
how DUMB it is to make and enforce such rules.
OH yeah: I DESPISE force or hurting people; so my stories pretty much
(but not always) avoid such sexual games as B&D or other pain-related
sex. Since force and pain *turn me off*; you won't find them in most
of my material.
And yeah: They're completely unrealistic in where people who WANT sex
and WANT to get fucked ... get fucked, with NO bad consequences. Not
realistic at all; but not only possible, such things DO happen.
Rarely; like getting struck by lightning, but sometimes.
(When I remember all the times I wanted and needed sex ... and many
women have told me that THEY had the same problem ....)
As for "no bad consequences" ....
We ALL know how rare THAT is; especially if you're young.
If nothing else, parents, police, peers, etc., will make your life a
living-hell if you get found out. Look at Romeo and Juliet. ;-{
