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Daniel
Feb 2, 2012, 11:52:28 PM2/2/12
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Here is post from the archives about Scott's true theology which is
far cry from biblical christianity put into words by someone who can
say it alot better than I can.......
jmccla...@yahoo.com View profile Yesterday morning, before we
started our Sunday service, Tom told me that Gene was sick and that
the band was now flanked by additional singers, ostensibly to push
Melissa along and cover the sour notes. When I got home I clicked onto
Gene's site for the first time in years and watched the morning
service --- we're in the Central time zone, so his 11:00 a.m. service
broadcasts at 1:00 p.m. our time. What I saw was the culmination of
years of errant theology coming to fruition. Here's what I mean.
Gene always taught that if you died in the act of "faithing" you would
go to Heaven. He likened it to being plugged into a wall socket. As
long as you left this world "plugged in," you were assured an entrance
into God's eternity. Now, here at what appears to be the end of his
life, he is forced to cling to his declarations that God must heal
him. He believes that his faith in God's eventual healing is
tantamount to staying "plugged in." He has no choice but to insist on
God's miraculous deliverance, because if he stops believing that he
risks dying in a "non-faithing" state and being eternally lost. To use
one of his favorite phrases, he is hung on his own petard. Gene does
not have faith in Christ's full and finished atoning work. Gene has
faith in his own faith to save him. However, in one of his countless
contradictions and confusions, he also teaches that God determines the
very moment of your death. That being the case, God can decide (quite
capriciously, I suppose) to kill you during a "faithing" moment or
during a lapse. In the end, it is still up to God whether you wind up
in Heaven or not. I hope everyone who watches his continued physical
corruption and eventual demise will recognize that his teaching has
not led him into a state of peace with God or confidence in his own
salvation. And the reason he has no peace is that he has taken the
focus off of Christ's finished atoning work. According to the author
of Hebrews, Christ's propitiatory sacrifice fully accomplished and
perfected the people for whom He died. "For by one offering he hath
perfected for ever them that are sanctified." (Heb. 10:14) Gene has
never taught on passages such as Hebrews 10:14 because if his
congregation ever truly embraced the full atonement of Christ they
would not live in slavish fear of Gene's wrath and continue emptying
their pocketbooks in order to appease him. Gene is scared. You can
hear it in his voice and in his choice of Psalms. He is craving some
assurance that he is going to be okay before God. But, he has no
genuine peace because his synergistic theology cannot produce rest for
the weary soul. It only produces ongoing work of the fleshly mind,
attempting to create levels of faith sufficient to obligate God both
temporally and eternally. At best, his theology is confused. At
worst, it is heresy. Again, I hope everyone witnessing this pathetic
spectacle will realize that his theology inevitably led his deathbed
panic. And, unless they embrace the gospel of Christ in all his
sufficiency, they too will wind up like their "pastor" --- flailing in
the wind, without hope or peace, craving some sense of well-being
where none exists. Anyway, that's the view from here. Jim McClarty
www.salvationbygrace.org
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Yesterday morning, before we started our Sunday service, Tom told me
that Gene was sick and that the band was now flanked by additional
singers, ostensibly to push Melissa along and cover the sour notes.
When I got home I clicked onto Gene's site for the first time in
years
and watched the morning service --- we're in the Central time zone,
so
his 11:00 a.m. service broadcasts at 1:00 p.m. our time.
What I saw was the culmination of years of errant theology coming to
fruition. Here's what I mean. Gene always taught that if you died
in
the act of "faithing" you would go to Heaven. He likened it to being
plugged into a wall socket. As long as you left this world "plugged
in," you were assured an entrance into God's eternity. Now, here at
what appears to be the end of his life, he is forced to cling to his
declarations that God must heal him. He believes that his faith in
God's eventual healing is tantamount to staying "plugged in." He has
no choice but to insist on God's miraculous deliverance, because if
he
stops believing that he risks dying in a "non-faithing" state and
being
eternally lost.
To use one of his favorite phrases, he is hung on his own petard.
Gene does not have faith in Christ's full and finished atoning work.
Gene has faith in his own faith to save him. However, in one of his
countless contradictions and confusions, he also teaches that God
determines the very moment of your death. That being the case, God
can
decide (quite capriciously, I suppose) to kill you during a
"faithing"
moment or during a lapse. In the end, it is still up to God whether
you wind up in Heaven or not.
I hope everyone who watches his continued physical corruption and
eventual demise will recognize that his teaching has not led him into
a
state of peace with God or confidence in his own salvation. And the
reason he has no peace is that he has taken the focus off of Christ's
finished atoning work. According to the author of Hebrews, Christ's
propitiatory sacrifice fully accomplished and perfected the people
for
whom He died. "For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them
that are sanctified." (Heb. 10:14)
Gene has never taught on passages such as Hebrews 10:14 because if
his
congregation ever truly embraced the full atonement of Christ they
would not live in slavish fear of Gene's wrath and continue emptying
their pocketbooks in order to appease him.
Gene is scared. You can hear it in his voice and in his choice of
Psalms. He is craving some assurance that he is going to be okay
before God. But, he has no genuine peace because his synergistic
theology cannot produce rest for the weary soul. It only produces
ongoing work of the fleshly mind, attempting to create levels of
faith
sufficient to obligate God both temporally and eternally. At best,
his
theology is confused. At worst, it is heresy.
Again, I hope everyone witnessing this pathetic spectacle will
realize
that his theology inevitably led his deathbed panic. And, unless
they
embrace the gospel of Christ in all his sufficiency, they too will
wind
up like their "pastor" --- flailing in the wind, without hope or
peace,
craving some sense of well-being where none exists.
Anyway, that's the view from here.
Jim McClarty
www.salvationbygrace.org
far cry from biblical christianity put into words by someone who can
say it alot better than I can.......
jmccla...@yahoo.com View profile Yesterday morning, before we
started our Sunday service, Tom told me that Gene was sick and that
the band was now flanked by additional singers, ostensibly to push
Melissa along and cover the sour notes. When I got home I clicked onto
Gene's site for the first time in years and watched the morning
service --- we're in the Central time zone, so his 11:00 a.m. service
broadcasts at 1:00 p.m. our time. What I saw was the culmination of
years of errant theology coming to fruition. Here's what I mean.
Gene always taught that if you died in the act of "faithing" you would
go to Heaven. He likened it to being plugged into a wall socket. As
long as you left this world "plugged in," you were assured an entrance
into God's eternity. Now, here at what appears to be the end of his
life, he is forced to cling to his declarations that God must heal
him. He believes that his faith in God's eventual healing is
tantamount to staying "plugged in." He has no choice but to insist on
God's miraculous deliverance, because if he stops believing that he
risks dying in a "non-faithing" state and being eternally lost. To use
one of his favorite phrases, he is hung on his own petard. Gene does
not have faith in Christ's full and finished atoning work. Gene has
faith in his own faith to save him. However, in one of his countless
contradictions and confusions, he also teaches that God determines the
very moment of your death. That being the case, God can decide (quite
capriciously, I suppose) to kill you during a "faithing" moment or
during a lapse. In the end, it is still up to God whether you wind up
in Heaven or not. I hope everyone who watches his continued physical
corruption and eventual demise will recognize that his teaching has
not led him into a state of peace with God or confidence in his own
salvation. And the reason he has no peace is that he has taken the
focus off of Christ's finished atoning work. According to the author
of Hebrews, Christ's propitiatory sacrifice fully accomplished and
perfected the people for whom He died. "For by one offering he hath
perfected for ever them that are sanctified." (Heb. 10:14) Gene has
never taught on passages such as Hebrews 10:14 because if his
congregation ever truly embraced the full atonement of Christ they
would not live in slavish fear of Gene's wrath and continue emptying
their pocketbooks in order to appease him. Gene is scared. You can
hear it in his voice and in his choice of Psalms. He is craving some
assurance that he is going to be okay before God. But, he has no
genuine peace because his synergistic theology cannot produce rest for
the weary soul. It only produces ongoing work of the fleshly mind,
attempting to create levels of faith sufficient to obligate God both
temporally and eternally. At best, his theology is confused. At
worst, it is heresy. Again, I hope everyone witnessing this pathetic
spectacle will realize that his theology inevitably led his deathbed
panic. And, unless they embrace the gospel of Christ in all his
sufficiency, they too will wind up like their "pastor" --- flailing in
the wind, without hope or peace, craving some sense of well-being
where none exists. Anyway, that's the view from here. Jim McClarty
www.salvationbygrace.org
More options Jan 24 2005, 7:23 am
Newsgroups: alt.fan.gene-scott
From: JMcCla...@Yahoo.com
Date: 24 Jan 2005 07:23:31 -0800
Local: Mon, Jan 24 2005 7:23 am
Subject: The View From Here
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Yesterday morning, before we started our Sunday service, Tom told me
that Gene was sick and that the band was now flanked by additional
singers, ostensibly to push Melissa along and cover the sour notes.
When I got home I clicked onto Gene's site for the first time in
years
and watched the morning service --- we're in the Central time zone,
so
his 11:00 a.m. service broadcasts at 1:00 p.m. our time.
What I saw was the culmination of years of errant theology coming to
fruition. Here's what I mean. Gene always taught that if you died
in
the act of "faithing" you would go to Heaven. He likened it to being
plugged into a wall socket. As long as you left this world "plugged
in," you were assured an entrance into God's eternity. Now, here at
what appears to be the end of his life, he is forced to cling to his
declarations that God must heal him. He believes that his faith in
God's eventual healing is tantamount to staying "plugged in." He has
no choice but to insist on God's miraculous deliverance, because if
he
stops believing that he risks dying in a "non-faithing" state and
being
eternally lost.
To use one of his favorite phrases, he is hung on his own petard.
Gene does not have faith in Christ's full and finished atoning work.
Gene has faith in his own faith to save him. However, in one of his
countless contradictions and confusions, he also teaches that God
determines the very moment of your death. That being the case, God
can
decide (quite capriciously, I suppose) to kill you during a
"faithing"
moment or during a lapse. In the end, it is still up to God whether
you wind up in Heaven or not.
I hope everyone who watches his continued physical corruption and
eventual demise will recognize that his teaching has not led him into
a
state of peace with God or confidence in his own salvation. And the
reason he has no peace is that he has taken the focus off of Christ's
finished atoning work. According to the author of Hebrews, Christ's
propitiatory sacrifice fully accomplished and perfected the people
for
whom He died. "For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them
that are sanctified." (Heb. 10:14)
Gene has never taught on passages such as Hebrews 10:14 because if
his
congregation ever truly embraced the full atonement of Christ they
would not live in slavish fear of Gene's wrath and continue emptying
their pocketbooks in order to appease him.
Gene is scared. You can hear it in his voice and in his choice of
Psalms. He is craving some assurance that he is going to be okay
before God. But, he has no genuine peace because his synergistic
theology cannot produce rest for the weary soul. It only produces
ongoing work of the fleshly mind, attempting to create levels of
faith
sufficient to obligate God both temporally and eternally. At best,
his
theology is confused. At worst, it is heresy.
Again, I hope everyone witnessing this pathetic spectacle will
realize
that his theology inevitably led his deathbed panic. And, unless
they
embrace the gospel of Christ in all his sufficiency, they too will
wind
up like their "pastor" --- flailing in the wind, without hope or
peace,
craving some sense of well-being where none exists.
Anyway, that's the view from here.
Jim McClarty
www.salvationbygrace.org
geraldkrug
Feb 3, 2012, 1:05:10 AM2/3/12
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Poor little PMS gonna get in trouble...
Wegelin used a special code, "BNQ," on around 70 new U.S. undeclared
accounts that were opened over 2008 and 2009. It also sometimes opened
accounts for U.S. citizens who held passports from other countries,
and opened the accounts through the non-U.S. passports.
http://news.yahoo.com/u-justice-department-indicts-swiss-bank-wegelin-021153409.html
Wegelin used a special code, "BNQ," on around 70 new U.S. undeclared
accounts that were opened over 2008 and 2009. It also sometimes opened
accounts for U.S. citizens who held passports from other countries,
and opened the accounts through the non-U.S. passports.
http://news.yahoo.com/u-justice-department-indicts-swiss-bank-wegelin-021153409.html
geraldkrug
Feb 3, 2012, 1:14:04 AM2/3/12
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In PMS shoes it's quite the same, waiting for the truth deadened out
and as I said Liberty Liberty Liberty.
Now go play deader.
and as I said Liberty Liberty Liberty.
Now go play deader.
geraldkrug
Feb 3, 2012, 1:15:50 AM2/3/12
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Now we can finally pay off the national debit...
geraldkrug
Feb 3, 2012, 1:20:21 AM2/3/12
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Social Security, U.S. Civil Service and Military trust funds own 62.2%
of the U.S. national debt, while foreign nations own the remaining
37.8%.
The big surprise of the chart is that China, contrary to popular
opinion, only owns 7.5% of the U.S. debt.
Gerald - And the payout per person is $28,888 which is easily covered
by the super rich...
of the U.S. national debt, while foreign nations own the remaining
37.8%.
The big surprise of the chart is that China, contrary to popular
opinion, only owns 7.5% of the U.S. debt.
Gerald - And the payout per person is $28,888 which is easily covered
by the super rich...
geraldkrug
Feb 3, 2012, 1:31:36 AM2/3/12
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On 222012
I found you stealing even the wild blue
on 222012
you got a new job
making him accept the third
and making him what you rob
On 222012
The last day stayed true
On 222012
I could be ME
you could be you
I found you stealing even the wild blue
on 222012
you got a new job
making him accept the third
and making him what you rob
On 222012
The last day stayed true
On 222012
I could be ME
you could be you
geraldkrug
Feb 3, 2012, 1:49:35 AM2/3/12
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On 222012 MY fountain of youth
said twas MY man downstairs and you.
said twas MY man downstairs and you.
matt2442
Feb 3, 2012, 1:42:39 AM2/3/12
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Matt2442:
Jim's words of wisdom were very timely and needed at that moment. I
hope it spoke to many of the scotties who were reading here.
"To use one of his favorite phrases, he is hung on his own petard.
Gene does not have faith in Christ's full and finished atoning work.
Gene has faith in his own faith to save him."
Not only that but he also robbed his congregation (local and
elsewhere) of the ability to trust in His finished work. Oh he offered
that, but he yanked it away and stuck the law of the tithe and
attendance in it's place.
Jim's words of wisdom were very timely and needed at that moment. I
hope it spoke to many of the scotties who were reading here.
"To use one of his favorite phrases, he is hung on his own petard.
Gene does not have faith in Christ's full and finished atoning work.
Gene has faith in his own faith to save him."
elsewhere) of the ability to trust in His finished work. Oh he offered
that, but he yanked it away and stuck the law of the tithe and
attendance in it's place.
Weatherman
Feb 3, 2012, 10:23:02 AM2/3/12
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always saved mindset and the other well known idea.....that you can
lose it. Naturally the once and always are smug and give off the fumes
of pride. Gene comes from the oil in the lamp school. You go away from
the door even to get more oil and the door may be opened while you are
gone. If the the atonment were enough then the whole world would be
saved as christ bought up the whole field. But as we see in the story
of the oil even some that know where the door is will be lost when
they come back to find it closed.
cowman
Feb 3, 2012, 12:08:59 PM2/3/12
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why,little poor???she dont use passports,she use bible...Wegelin&co
gave accounts special names including "Elvis" and "Limpopo
Foundation",sounds like music bank account.
Daniel
Feb 3, 2012, 10:19:48 PM2/3/12
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biblical truth of ones eternal security nothing to do with smugness,
if you think the anointing work is not enough than how many works (aka
faith actions) are needed to keep one saved? How good is good enough?
The misquote of the scripture of the virgins with there lamp of oil
speaks of the saved and the unsaved the unsaved try to light the lamp
by there own efforts while those with the lamp full are those who
have the spirit of God they dont have to have to worry about there
lamps going out because they have believed on the Lord Jesus Christ
for there salvation. The foolish virgins had religion the wise Virgins
have Jesus Christ.Salvation is full complete and forever......Hebrews
7:25
Therefore He is also able to save to the uttermost those who come to
God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them.
geraldkrug
Feb 3, 2012, 10:27:41 PM2/3/12
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Dream on, you deny HIM by denying HIS FATHERS DAYS on Earth.
matt2442
Feb 3, 2012, 10:42:55 PM2/3/12
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> WM-Yea right Matt. Looks more like a conflict between a once saved
> always saved mindset and the other well known idea.....that you can
> lose it. Naturally the once and always are smug and give off the fumes
> of pride.
> Gene comes from the oil in the lamp school. You go away from
> the door even to get more oil and the door may be opened while you are
> gone. If the the atonment were enough then the whole world would be
> saved as christ bought up the whole field. But as we see in the story
> of the oil even some that know where the door is will be lost when
> they come back to find it closed.
Both sides can be smug and prideful. It depends on which side of the
argument we are on as to whom we perceive as being smug.
I don't think Jim was being smug, but he, from his Calvinist
perspective, saw through the holes in Scott's doctrine, mainly because
Scott DID in fact say many times that Christ's finished work of
atonement was enough (you know, "Jesus saves with no buts attached?).
I am not a Calvinist but I did appreciate his views on this at the
time.
I can see what you are saying though. As far as the "oil in the lamp
school", I thought the parable had to do with expecting the Lord's
return and being prepared. I know the oil is a symbol of the Holy
Spirit, and the 5 wise virgins kept their lamps full, expecting the
bridegroom to come at any moment, while the foolish did not maintain
their oil. Obviously something must be "done" to maintain the oil in
our lamps. How is the atonement not enough? How is the "oil"
maintained? By faithing actions? By tithing 25%? By attending the LAUC
every Sunday? By reaching the "amen level" of faith? That's what Doc
seemed to think and it left him without peace, perhaps until the very
end. I would think that maintaining the oil (the Holy Spirit) has
everything to do with Christ's atoning work on the cross being
sufficient, and trusting in that.
If nothing else, you've prompted me to study up on that parable.
geraldkrug
Feb 3, 2012, 11:50:39 PM2/3/12
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Waiting for God and you think when HE comes HE'S gonna need something?
FREAKS !
FREAKS !
geraldkrug
Feb 4, 2012, 12:01:36 AM2/4/12
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Oh well MY Facebook app is gonna be used more now that the IPO
has stated it will use users as billboards.
http://apps.facebook.com/336613603021079/
has stated it will use users as billboards.
http://apps.facebook.com/336613603021079/
cowman
Feb 4, 2012, 1:13:28 AM2/4/12
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hexadecad number...you know alphabet+number, H1F0 or something like
that.
geraldkrug
Feb 4, 2012, 1:53:19 AM2/4/12
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It's actually a code that had letters sprinkled in and removed for
pure numerical uniqueness.
Judaizers Need Light of Truth!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they be sound in the faith: Not
giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from
the truth."
(Titus 1:13-14)
For years many of you have written to me expressing questions and
concerns about the explosive topic of the Jews and the nation of
Israel. God has spoken to my heart on this matter and has compelled me
to devote many hundreds of hours studying His Word, praying, and
accomplishing research.
The Apostle Paul over and over tearfully warned the Christian Church
about the "accursed gospel" of the Judaizers (Galatians 1). How sad
that, today, the same Judaizer untruths and heresies are widespread.
Indeed, it being the last days, the chief and most blasphemous heresy
found inside the Christian Church today involves the poisonous fables
spread about by the Judaizers.
Doubly pitiful is that many sincere people have bought into the
Judaizer doctrines. This is a telling sign that Jesus spoke the truth
when he prophesied that in the end-time, the deception would be so
seductive and smooth that, "If it were possible, even the very elect
would be deceived" (Matthew 24:24).
The Number One Problem Plaguing the Church
I am persuaded that the "accursed gospel" (Galatians 1) of the
Judaizers is the number one problem plaguing the weakened, apostate
Christian Church. If a man or woman buys this lie, he will be sucked
into believing every lie! This is the leaven that spoils the whole.
The Judaizer Lie is the very Lie and Abomination that the Antichrist,
the Son of Perdition, will someday soon declare from the pulpit of a
rebuilt, unholy, last days Temple of the Jews in Jerusalem (see II
Thes. 2).
The reconstructed, national House of Israel—Israel after the flesh—
made up of Jews in Israel, in the U.S.A. and around the globe—is
clearly identified in the prophetic Scripture as "Mystery, Babylon the
Great."
This sordid, Christ-hating global Jewish Entity is the fount of almost
every evil on earth. Indeed, I produce a mountain of evidence proving
this in my groundbreaking video, Cauldron of Abaddon. The book of
Revelation calls this Jewish Entity by the horrible, but descriptive,
codename, "Sodom and Egypt" (Revelation 11:8). The Jewish Entity is
the head of the fearsome satanic Beast that was once wounded in 70 AD,
but lives. It is now using America as its proxy to conquer the Middle
East by military force.
pure numerical uniqueness.
Judaizers Need Light of Truth!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they be sound in the faith: Not
giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from
the truth."
(Titus 1:13-14)
For years many of you have written to me expressing questions and
concerns about the explosive topic of the Jews and the nation of
Israel. God has spoken to my heart on this matter and has compelled me
to devote many hundreds of hours studying His Word, praying, and
accomplishing research.
The Apostle Paul over and over tearfully warned the Christian Church
about the "accursed gospel" of the Judaizers (Galatians 1). How sad
that, today, the same Judaizer untruths and heresies are widespread.
Indeed, it being the last days, the chief and most blasphemous heresy
found inside the Christian Church today involves the poisonous fables
spread about by the Judaizers.
Doubly pitiful is that many sincere people have bought into the
Judaizer doctrines. This is a telling sign that Jesus spoke the truth
when he prophesied that in the end-time, the deception would be so
seductive and smooth that, "If it were possible, even the very elect
would be deceived" (Matthew 24:24).
The Number One Problem Plaguing the Church
I am persuaded that the "accursed gospel" (Galatians 1) of the
Judaizers is the number one problem plaguing the weakened, apostate
Christian Church. If a man or woman buys this lie, he will be sucked
into believing every lie! This is the leaven that spoils the whole.
The Judaizer Lie is the very Lie and Abomination that the Antichrist,
the Son of Perdition, will someday soon declare from the pulpit of a
rebuilt, unholy, last days Temple of the Jews in Jerusalem (see II
Thes. 2).
The reconstructed, national House of Israel—Israel after the flesh—
made up of Jews in Israel, in the U.S.A. and around the globe—is
clearly identified in the prophetic Scripture as "Mystery, Babylon the
Great."
This sordid, Christ-hating global Jewish Entity is the fount of almost
every evil on earth. Indeed, I produce a mountain of evidence proving
this in my groundbreaking video, Cauldron of Abaddon. The book of
Revelation calls this Jewish Entity by the horrible, but descriptive,
codename, "Sodom and Egypt" (Revelation 11:8). The Jewish Entity is
the head of the fearsome satanic Beast that was once wounded in 70 AD,
but lives. It is now using America as its proxy to conquer the Middle
East by military force.
matt2442
Feb 3, 2012, 11:39:34 PM2/3/12
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Daniel:
Better said than my post.
> You got it wrong big time...there is nothing wrong with enjoying the
> biblical truth of ones eternal security nothing to do with smugness,
> if you think the <atoning> work is not enough than how many works (aka
> biblical truth of ones eternal security nothing to do with smugness,
> faith actions) are needed to keep one saved? How good is good enough?
> The misquote of the scripture of the virgins with there lamp of oil
> speaks of the saved and the unsaved the unsaved try to light the lamp
> by there own efforts while those with the lamp full are those who
> have the spirit of God they dont have to have to worry about there
> lamps going out because they have believed on the Lord Jesus Christ
> for there salvation. The foolish virgins had religion the wise Virgins
> have Jesus Christ.Salvation is full complete and forever......Hebrews
> 7:25
> Therefore He is also able to save to the uttermost those who come to
> God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them.
Matt2442:
> The misquote of the scripture of the virgins with there lamp of oil
> speaks of the saved and the unsaved the unsaved try to light the lamp
> by there own efforts while those with the lamp full are those who
> have the spirit of God they dont have to have to worry about there
> lamps going out because they have believed on the Lord Jesus Christ
> for there salvation. The foolish virgins had religion the wise Virgins
> have Jesus Christ.Salvation is full complete and forever......Hebrews
> 7:25
> Therefore He is also able to save to the uttermost those who come to
> God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them.
Better said than my post.
Emmett
Feb 4, 2012, 1:10:07 PM2/4/12
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Daniel, I'm glad to see you finally figured Dr. jean out.
Daniel
Feb 4, 2012, 7:57:44 PM2/4/12
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>
> - Show quoted text -
Thank You Emmett
studio
Feb 4, 2012, 9:46:50 PM2/4/12
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> > Emmett writes:
>
> > Daniel, I'm glad to see you finally figured Dr. jean out.- Hide quoted text -
>
>
> Thank You Emmett
.
studio:
What? That's it? No off the cuff comment on how
Emmett is being tongue in cheek about your beautiful post?
My goodness, what's happening here? First gypsie invites
the flying monkeys to our party here then she says she's
willing to be Melissa's lap pooch with a bible quote about
preaching incorrectly, NOW this?
I'm in shock........2012, this must be the end!
Next thing ya know Batty Addy will invite matt2442
and h8n s8n to his church on Sunday.......
they'll come back with new brides!
(brush up on yer Spanish).
geraldkrug
Feb 4, 2012, 11:36:46 PM2/4/12
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Look up brown girls who love white guys.
I found this girl today by accident...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wZm2vKDtPI
She's an example of very interesting people on youtube if you got the
right key words.
I found this girl today by accident...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wZm2vKDtPI
She's an example of very interesting people on youtube if you got the
right key words.
geraldkrug
Feb 5, 2012, 12:06:45 AM2/5/12
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The truth is when an energy God settles a society is built up
so the idea of God in clothes God in us Gods' outside is no matter
since inner is
so spiritual...
If you rip a mans clothes he is inconvenienced so the clothes are part
of man inside...
How much is to know then is not much but the transendentcy suprises us
everytime.
so the idea of God in clothes God in us Gods' outside is no matter
since inner is
so spiritual...
If you rip a mans clothes he is inconvenienced so the clothes are part
of man inside...
How much is to know then is not much but the transendentcy suprises us
everytime.
geraldkrug
Feb 5, 2012, 12:12:06 AM2/5/12
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The concept of God being poor is only created in response to being
ashamed of having sold out.
God is a dynamic wild ride to make people happy and everyone buys in.
ashamed of having sold out.
God is a dynamic wild ride to make people happy and everyone buys in.
geraldkrug
Feb 5, 2012, 12:15:56 AM2/5/12
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That's why all downtown Los Angeles can know I'm here
and be cool about it. I'm known to be negotiated not debated.
and be cool about it. I'm known to be negotiated not debated.
geraldkrug
Feb 5, 2012, 12:22:14 AM2/5/12
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That's where I draw the line in MY sand.
How stupid of you to not know I do the best
at all times.
How stupid of you to not know I do the best
at all times.
Daniel
Feb 5, 2012, 11:10:01 AM2/5/12
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kumbia song fest....Hey its the big 2012 maybe I am mellowing in my
old age...
studio
Feb 5, 2012, 12:27:38 PM2/5/12
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On Feb 5, 8:10 am, Daniel <dano2...@netzero.net> wrote:
> On Feb 4, 6:46 pm, studio <studios...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Emmett writes:
>
> > > > Daniel, I'm glad to see you finally figured Dr. jean out.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > Daniel writes:-
>
> > > Thank You Emmett
>
> > .
> > studio:
>
> > What? That's it? No off the cuff comment on how
> > Emmett is being tongue in cheek about your beautiful post?
>
> > My goodness, what's happening here? First gypsie invites
> > the flying monkeys to our party here then she says she's
> > willing to be Melissa's lap pooch with a bible quote about
> > preaching incorrectly, NOW this?
>
> > I'm in shock........2012, this must be the end!
>
> > Next thing ya know Batty Addy will invite matt2442
> > and h8n s8n to his church on Sunday.......
> > they'll come back with new brides!
> > (brush up on yer Spanish).
.
> On Feb 4, 6:46 pm, studio <studios...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Emmett writes:
>
> > > > Daniel, I'm glad to see you finally figured Dr. jean out.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > Daniel writes:-
>
> > > Thank You Emmett
>
> > .
> > studio:
>
> > What? That's it? No off the cuff comment on how
> > Emmett is being tongue in cheek about your beautiful post?
>
> > My goodness, what's happening here? First gypsie invites
> > the flying monkeys to our party here then she says she's
> > willing to be Melissa's lap pooch with a bible quote about
> > preaching incorrectly, NOW this?
>
> > I'm in shock........2012, this must be the end!
>
> > Next thing ya know Batty Addy will invite matt2442
> > and h8n s8n to his church on Sunday.......
> > they'll come back with new brides!
> > (brush up on yer Spanish).
Daniel:
> I know weird huh? I was going to invite Emmett over to my house for a
> kumbia song fest....Hey its the big 2012 maybe I am mellowing in my
> old age...
.
> kumbia song fest....Hey its the big 2012 maybe I am mellowing in my
> old age...
studio:
lol....or maybe yer back to smokin' the good stuff?
Weatherman
Feb 5, 2012, 8:45:19 PM2/5/12
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>
> - Show quoted text -
WM-Nothing aimed at you there. The oil in the lamp is read in several
> - Show quoted text -
ways. As far as it meaning the unsaved it does look a bit more
complicated to me anyway. Looks like some did wait for a time and why
did they wait if there was not some hope. Maybe its akin to those that
wouldnt come when they were bidden.
Weatherman
Feb 5, 2012, 8:46:31 PM2/5/12
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Daniel
Feb 5, 2012, 9:04:51 PM2/5/12
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>
> - Show quoted text -
Didnt take it personally. Well I think people do find hope in
> - Show quoted text -
religion but realize to late it was for naught like the other
scriptures where they said Lord havent we done this and this in your
name and Jesus says depart from me I never knew you ...the scripture
seems to indicate in its original meaning that the foolish virgins
went out with no oil in there lamps at all meaning they did not have
the Holy Spirit in them ie not saved
http://bible.org/seriespage/ten-virgins-what-it-means-be-ready-matthew-251-13
Weatherman
Feb 5, 2012, 9:07:55 PM2/5/12
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>
> - Show quoted text -
WM-Oh so they went out looking for some oil.
> - Show quoted text -
geraldkrug
Feb 6, 2012, 8:24:03 PM2/6/12
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If there is no peer pressure then it's just the best road to
save savings.
save savings.
babyshoes
Feb 14, 2012, 8:27:04 PM2/14/12
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On Feb 2, 8:52 pm, Daniel <dano2...@netzero.net> wrote:
> Here is post from the archives about Scott's true theology which is
> far cry from biblical christianity put into words by someone who can
> say it alot better than I can.......
>
> jmccla...@yahoo.com View profile Yesterday morning, before we
> started our Sunday service, Tom told me that Gene was sick and that
> the band was now flanked by additional singers, ostensibly to push
> Melissa along and cover the sour notes. When I got home I clicked onto
> Gene's site for the first time in years and watched the morning
> service --- we're in the Central time zone, so his 11:00 a.m. service
> broadcasts at 1:00 p.m. our time. What I saw was the culmination of
> years of errant theology coming to fruition. Here's what I mean.
> Gene always taught that if you died in the act of "faithing" you would
> go to Heaven. He likened it to being plugged into a wall socket. As
> long as you left this world "plugged in," you were assured an entrance
> into God's eternity. Now, here at what appears to be the end of his
> life, he is forced to cling to his declarations that God must heal
> him. He believes that his faith in God's eventual healing is
> tantamount to staying "plugged in." He has no choice but to insist on
> God's miraculous deliverance, because if he stops believing that he
> risks dying in a "non-faithing" state and being eternally lost. To use
> Here is post from the archives about Scott's true theology which is
> far cry from biblical christianity put into words by someone who can
> say it alot better than I can.......
>
> jmccla...@yahoo.com View profile Yesterday morning, before we
> started our Sunday service, Tom told me that Gene was sick and that
> the band was now flanked by additional singers, ostensibly to push
> Melissa along and cover the sour notes. When I got home I clicked onto
> Gene's site for the first time in years and watched the morning
> service --- we're in the Central time zone, so his 11:00 a.m. service
> broadcasts at 1:00 p.m. our time. What I saw was the culmination of
> years of errant theology coming to fruition. Here's what I mean.
> Gene always taught that if you died in the act of "faithing" you would
> go to Heaven. He likened it to being plugged into a wall socket. As
> long as you left this world "plugged in," you were assured an entrance
> into God's eternity. Now, here at what appears to be the end of his
> life, he is forced to cling to his declarations that God must heal
> him. He believes that his faith in God's eventual healing is
> tantamount to staying "plugged in." He has no choice but to insist on
> God's miraculous deliverance, because if he stops believing that he
> one of his favorite phrases, he is hung on his own petard. Gene does
> not have faith in Christ's full and finished atoning work. Gene has
> not have faith in Christ's full and finished atoning work. Gene has
> To use one of his favorite phrases, he is hung on his own petard.
>
> Gene does not have faith in Christ's full and finished atoning work.
>
> Gene does not have faith in Christ's full and finished atoning work.
end..
he kept commenting on the bruised reed...
studio
Feb 14, 2012, 8:34:14 PM2/14/12
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On Feb 14, 5:27 pm, babyshoes <mthrb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I wonder if Gene had a broken, repentant, and contrite spirit, in the
> end..
> he kept commenting on the bruised reed...
He never said he was sorry to me about anything.
>
> I wonder if Gene had a broken, repentant, and contrite spirit, in the
> end..
> he kept commenting on the bruised reed...
So I don't think he was sorry, broken maybe....but not sorry.
matt2442
Feb 16, 2012, 3:44:31 PM2/16/12
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God only knows.
studio
Feb 16, 2012, 5:20:25 PM2/16/12
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been wrong in my lifetime once, maybe twice.
....and of course the AFGS disclaimer...........
"Don't take any of this too seriously, you'll end up
sitting at the bar by yourself."
Ronny TX
Feb 17, 2012, 6:57:05 PM2/17/12
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Scott's True Theology
Group: alt.fan.gene-scott Date: Thu, Feb
2, 2012, 8:52pm (CST-2) From:
dano...@netzero.net (Daniel)
Daniel:
time in years and watched the morning service --- (snip)
Ronny to Daniel:
I've read this thread earlier and then much of it again,this Friday
evening. It's very interesting to me. Why? Because as I've said,there
was a time in the past,when I watched Gene Scott's TV program,now and
then-that usually,on a hit or miss basis,as I channel surfed,to see what
was on? And as I've also said in here,I could remember there were
somethings,that I agreed with him about;but for the life of me,it's been
so long back,so I can't really remember,what those things were? Nor,if
in the present day,I would still agree with him,on somethings,as I did
back when?
And since running up on this group again, I've lately been doing some
searching,at Google. Trying to find out,what were the basic,bedrock
teachings/beliefs,of Gene Scott? And from there,of Melissa Scott? Well,I
take it from,what I've read in here and on a Google search,that they
both believe and hold to,the exact same teachings. I suppose that's
right?
So,I ran upon this webpage and that led on,to Melissa Scott's webpage.
http://www.drgenescott.com/
I will add here again,that I am very limited in what I can see
online,since I'm on a WebTV unit and not a computer. So far the
present,watching video online,is not something I can do. Plus,with
WebTV,I can't really read webpages,written in PDF format. Though I have
maybe 2 ways,to get around some of that? One way I've found,that
sometimes works for me,is that I can take the URL address of a PDF
webpage,plug that in at Google search and they will convert that page,to
much more simple HTML. Which I can then read.
But what I'm finally getting to, :-) (ha) is that I really wanted to
read the basic teachings and beliefs,of both Gene and Melissa Scott. And
I much prefer to do that,by reading their own words. Well,I found
nothing like that,on that drgenescott.com webpage. So I followed the
link there,to Melissa Scott's webpage. I was simply hoping to find,on
either webpage,a statement of basic beliefs and teachings. And as I
say,I really wanted to read that,in their own words. But so far, I've
yet to find that basic statement of belief/teachings,on either Gene or
Melissa Scott's webpage. What I believe I did find though,on Melissa
Scott's page,is a very few teaching messages of hers,in printen format?
They're in PDF format though and I need to take the time to see if I can
get the URL addresses for those,then take that over to Google search.
From there,see if I can get Google,to come up with a copy of those,in
HTML? That's what I hope to try and do,later on.
But,it would just be so nice,if there was a place or places online,where
I could go and read,the basic teachings/beliefs,of both Gene and Melissa
Scott,in their own words. First,really wanting to start with his,so I
can try and remember what it was in the past,that I do seem to remember,
agreeing with him about,etc?
And Daniel,there is more I want to say, ask,comment about,etc,about what
you've posted from the past,by this Jim McClarty. It's just way
interesting. But I better hold off on that,for a late post! :-) Too
much, already in this one! (ha) :-)
Group: alt.fan.gene-scott Date: Thu, Feb
2, 2012, 8:52pm (CST-2) From:
dano...@netzero.net (Daniel)
Daniel:
Ronny to Daniel:
I've read this thread earlier and then much of it again,this Friday
evening. It's very interesting to me. Why? Because as I've said,there
was a time in the past,when I watched Gene Scott's TV program,now and
then-that usually,on a hit or miss basis,as I channel surfed,to see what
was on? And as I've also said in here,I could remember there were
somethings,that I agreed with him about;but for the life of me,it's been
so long back,so I can't really remember,what those things were? Nor,if
in the present day,I would still agree with him,on somethings,as I did
back when?
And since running up on this group again, I've lately been doing some
searching,at Google. Trying to find out,what were the basic,bedrock
teachings/beliefs,of Gene Scott? And from there,of Melissa Scott? Well,I
take it from,what I've read in here and on a Google search,that they
both believe and hold to,the exact same teachings. I suppose that's
right?
So,I ran upon this webpage and that led on,to Melissa Scott's webpage.
http://www.drgenescott.com/
I will add here again,that I am very limited in what I can see
online,since I'm on a WebTV unit and not a computer. So far the
present,watching video online,is not something I can do. Plus,with
WebTV,I can't really read webpages,written in PDF format. Though I have
maybe 2 ways,to get around some of that? One way I've found,that
sometimes works for me,is that I can take the URL address of a PDF
webpage,plug that in at Google search and they will convert that page,to
much more simple HTML. Which I can then read.
But what I'm finally getting to, :-) (ha) is that I really wanted to
read the basic teachings and beliefs,of both Gene and Melissa Scott. And
I much prefer to do that,by reading their own words. Well,I found
nothing like that,on that drgenescott.com webpage. So I followed the
link there,to Melissa Scott's webpage. I was simply hoping to find,on
either webpage,a statement of basic beliefs and teachings. And as I
say,I really wanted to read that,in their own words. But so far, I've
yet to find that basic statement of belief/teachings,on either Gene or
Melissa Scott's webpage. What I believe I did find though,on Melissa
Scott's page,is a very few teaching messages of hers,in printen format?
They're in PDF format though and I need to take the time to see if I can
get the URL addresses for those,then take that over to Google search.
From there,see if I can get Google,to come up with a copy of those,in
HTML? That's what I hope to try and do,later on.
But,it would just be so nice,if there was a place or places online,where
I could go and read,the basic teachings/beliefs,of both Gene and Melissa
Scott,in their own words. First,really wanting to start with his,so I
can try and remember what it was in the past,that I do seem to remember,
agreeing with him about,etc?
And Daniel,there is more I want to say, ask,comment about,etc,about what
you've posted from the past,by this Jim McClarty. It's just way
interesting. But I better hold off on that,for a late post! :-) Too
much, already in this one! (ha) :-)
studio
Feb 17, 2012, 9:44:28 PM2/17/12
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On Feb 17, 3:57 pm, Acts17...@webtv.net (Ronny TX) wrote:
> But,it would just be so nice,if there was a place or places online,where
> I could go and read,the basic teachings/beliefs,of both Gene and Melissa
> Scott,in their own words. First,really wanting to start with his,so I
> can try and remember what it was in the past,that I do seem to remember,
> agreeing with him about,etc?
>
> And Daniel,there is more I want to say, ask,comment about,etc,about what
> you've posted from the past,by this Jim McClarty. It's just way
> interesting. But I better hold off on that,for a late post! :-) Too
> much, already in this one! (ha) :-)
.
> But,it would just be so nice,if there was a place or places online,where
> I could go and read,the basic teachings/beliefs,of both Gene and Melissa
> Scott,in their own words. First,really wanting to start with his,so I
> can try and remember what it was in the past,that I do seem to remember,
> agreeing with him about,etc?
>
> And Daniel,there is more I want to say, ask,comment about,etc,about what
> you've posted from the past,by this Jim McClarty. It's just way
> interesting. But I better hold off on that,for a late post! :-) Too
> much, already in this one! (ha) :-)
studio:
Hey Ronny, notice how nobody is coming to your rescue here and
guiding you to a link about Gene Scott's theology?
There's a good reason for that! lol
Is there anything in particular that you may want to know?
I'm still questioning if they have a true fear of The Lord or if
the quest for money is the driving force behind the cameras.......
ya know i was there for decades just like some others here.
Some shit I just can't figure out. You know what they say,
It doesn't have to make sense cuz it's a cult!
Just because someone is on TV and reads from The Bible
does not mean they have any credibility or systematic
theology behind them. You may find that's it's all a
hodgepodge of beliefs with no real substance or connection
with a logical path of Christianity.
You will let us know what you find, right?
geraldkrug
Feb 17, 2012, 10:41:14 PM2/17/12
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Find another cult if PMS ain't your thing.
Ronny TX
Feb 17, 2012, 11:32:16 PM2/17/12
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> Re: Scott's True Theology
> Group: alt.fan.gene-scott Date: Fri, Feb
> 17, 2012, 6:44pm (CST-2) From:
> studi...@gmail.com (studio)
Ronny to Studio:
God willing Studio,I will. And after resting this evening and getting a
bit of needed work done about the place,I did do a lot more Google
searching. Found some interesting things,at least to me. one was where I
read a whole article,by Melissa Scott on tithing,firstfruits,etc. That
in her own words,so that was some of what I was looking for. But I just
didn't think it or any of the things I found,would be of much interest
to folks here,for me to post such here. Well,I figured y'all already
know about all that Gene and Melissa Scott taught/teaches. (For now,I
will simply say that I completely disagreed with her,on her teaching
about tithing,etc. Maybe more on that later?)
Changed my mind! :-) And BTW,unless I am told better,I'm just going to
assume for now,that everything presently believed and taught by Melissa
Scott,was also taught and believed,by her husband,Gene Scott. So,right
or wrong,at least for now,
I'm just going to make that assumption.
On that teaching article I read on tithing,
by Melissa Scott,I see she believes in and teaches the 10% tithe and I
disagree with her,on that.
I see her saying,that if you are listening to and taught by her,then you
should send her,your tithe.
I see,that she says,gospel preachers/ teachers like her are the New
Testament priesthood,to which Christians are to give their tithes,etc.
And I completely disagree with her,on that.
I see,where she says we are to follow God and God's leaders,with her,as
one of those leaders. And unless I'm shown to be wrong on this part,I
see her saying/ claiming that following her,listening to and believing
her,is the equal of listening to,believing and following God. And of
course,with that,I completely and 100% disagree. And I can not stress
that part, strong enough.
And a question. Did Gene and Melissa Scott,expect people to follow
them,with out question? Or at anytime,did either one of them ever tell
people,to simply ask God,if what they were telling them,was true or not?
Or did they simply expect you to believe them,as if every word from
them,was exactly the same,as you getting such,straight from God? Well,if
that's what they expected/demanded of people, then they weren't worthy
following. And that's,putting it mildly. And I say that,not in a
superiour way;but as one,who was also once,in a cult like group and was
well brainwashed,into that.
And among other things I read and or remembered,as I read this
evening-one thing,was that Gene Scott used to be in a
Holiness,Pentecostal and or Assembly of God type Protestant group or
groups. And at times,he was mixed in with and worked for Oral
Roberts,etc. Which is where I don't doubt;but that his and Melissa's
prosperity type gospel teaching came from. As I see it now,that's just a
variation on that teaching,as taught by some Pentecostal type preachers.
So as best I see it now,Gene Scott obviously took that teaching in and
just added his peculiarities to it.
Yeah,some interesting things,I'm finding this evening,doing a Google
search,on Gene and Melissa Scott. And I'm not saying,they were/are any
worse,that some other preachers. But so far,as I see it,they
are/were,just as bad as some.
> Group: alt.fan.gene-scott Date: Fri, Feb
> 17, 2012, 6:44pm (CST-2) From:
> studi...@gmail.com (studio)
> On Feb 17, 3:57 pm, Acts17...@webtv.net
> (Ronny TX) wrote:
> But,it would just be so nice,if there
> was a place or places online,where I
> could go and read,the basic
> teachings/beliefs,of both Gene and
> Melissa Scott,in their own words.
> First,really wanting to start with
> his,so I can try and remember what it
> was in the past,that I do seem to
> remember, agreeing with him about,etc?
> And Daniel,there is more I want to say,
> ask,comment about,etc,about what you've
> posted from the past,by this Jim
> McClarty. It's just way interesting. But
> I better hold off on that,for a late
> post! :-) Too much, already in this one!
> (ha) :-)
>
> (Ronny TX) wrote:
> But,it would just be so nice,if there
> was a place or places online,where I
> could go and read,the basic
> teachings/beliefs,of both Gene and
> Melissa Scott,in their own words.
> First,really wanting to start with
> his,so I can try and remember what it
> was in the past,that I do seem to
> remember, agreeing with him about,etc?
> And Daniel,there is more I want to say,
> ask,comment about,etc,about what you've
> posted from the past,by this Jim
> McClarty. It's just way interesting. But
> I better hold off on that,for a late
> post! :-) Too much, already in this one!
> (ha) :-)
>
> studio:
> Hey Ronny, notice how nobody is coming
> to your rescue here and guiding you to a
> link about Gene Scott's theology?
> There's a good reason for that! lol
> Is there anything in particular that you
> may want to know?
> I'm still questioning if they have a
> true fear of The Lord or if the quest
> for money is the driving force behind
> the cameras....... ya know i was there
> for decades just like some others here.
> Some shit I just can't figure out. You
> know what they say, It doesn't have to
> make sense cuz it's a cult!
> Just because someone is on TV and reads
> from The Bible does not mean they have
> any credibility or systematic theology
> behind them. You may find that's it's
> all a hodgepodge of beliefs with no real
> substance or connection with a logical
> path of Christianity.
> You will let us know what you find,
> right?
> ---
> Hey Ronny, notice how nobody is coming
> to your rescue here and guiding you to a
> link about Gene Scott's theology?
> There's a good reason for that! lol
> Is there anything in particular that you
> may want to know?
> I'm still questioning if they have a
> true fear of The Lord or if the quest
> for money is the driving force behind
> the cameras....... ya know i was there
> for decades just like some others here.
> Some shit I just can't figure out. You
> know what they say, It doesn't have to
> make sense cuz it's a cult!
> Just because someone is on TV and reads
> from The Bible does not mean they have
> any credibility or systematic theology
> behind them. You may find that's it's
> all a hodgepodge of beliefs with no real
> substance or connection with a logical
> path of Christianity.
> You will let us know what you find,
> right?
Ronny to Studio:
God willing Studio,I will. And after resting this evening and getting a
bit of needed work done about the place,I did do a lot more Google
searching. Found some interesting things,at least to me. one was where I
read a whole article,by Melissa Scott on tithing,firstfruits,etc. That
in her own words,so that was some of what I was looking for. But I just
didn't think it or any of the things I found,would be of much interest
to folks here,for me to post such here. Well,I figured y'all already
know about all that Gene and Melissa Scott taught/teaches. (For now,I
will simply say that I completely disagreed with her,on her teaching
about tithing,etc. Maybe more on that later?)
Changed my mind! :-) And BTW,unless I am told better,I'm just going to
assume for now,that everything presently believed and taught by Melissa
Scott,was also taught and believed,by her husband,Gene Scott. So,right
or wrong,at least for now,
I'm just going to make that assumption.
On that teaching article I read on tithing,
by Melissa Scott,I see she believes in and teaches the 10% tithe and I
disagree with her,on that.
I see her saying,that if you are listening to and taught by her,then you
should send her,your tithe.
I see,that she says,gospel preachers/ teachers like her are the New
Testament priesthood,to which Christians are to give their tithes,etc.
And I completely disagree with her,on that.
I see,where she says we are to follow God and God's leaders,with her,as
one of those leaders. And unless I'm shown to be wrong on this part,I
see her saying/ claiming that following her,listening to and believing
her,is the equal of listening to,believing and following God. And of
course,with that,I completely and 100% disagree. And I can not stress
that part, strong enough.
And a question. Did Gene and Melissa Scott,expect people to follow
them,with out question? Or at anytime,did either one of them ever tell
people,to simply ask God,if what they were telling them,was true or not?
Or did they simply expect you to believe them,as if every word from
them,was exactly the same,as you getting such,straight from God? Well,if
that's what they expected/demanded of people, then they weren't worthy
following. And that's,putting it mildly. And I say that,not in a
superiour way;but as one,who was also once,in a cult like group and was
well brainwashed,into that.
And among other things I read and or remembered,as I read this
evening-one thing,was that Gene Scott used to be in a
Holiness,Pentecostal and or Assembly of God type Protestant group or
groups. And at times,he was mixed in with and worked for Oral
Roberts,etc. Which is where I don't doubt;but that his and Melissa's
prosperity type gospel teaching came from. As I see it now,that's just a
variation on that teaching,as taught by some Pentecostal type preachers.
So as best I see it now,Gene Scott obviously took that teaching in and
just added his peculiarities to it.
Yeah,some interesting things,I'm finding this evening,doing a Google
search,on Gene and Melissa Scott. And I'm not saying,they were/are any
worse,that some other preachers. But so far,as I see it,they
are/were,just as bad as some.
Ronny TX
Feb 18, 2012, 12:08:24 AM2/18/12
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Scott's True Theology
Ronny to Daniel:
Daniel,I'm confused about this Jim McClarity and what he was doing
posting in here,in 2005? Was he a former member,of Gene Scott's church?
A former follower,of his? And I see by his webpage,
that Jim's a dyed in the wool Calvinist. Just as I was once brought up
in church and taught to believe and be. But if he was once a follower of
Gene Scott,was he a Calvinist at that time or only afterwards? Well,I'm
also wondering,if Gene Scott was a Calvinist or an Arminian/free will
type,in belief?
Well,I read the post again and I can see,as Jim wrote it,that Gene Scott
was obviously,no Calvinist in belief. And it surely seems,from what I've
read here, that he was much more a Pentecostal/ Holiness type,who
believed that God had to heal him and would,if he just had enough faith.
But did the man never mention or bring up the fact,that it just might
not be God's will,to heal him? Or did he say/teach,that God had to? And
that God would,just as long as he had enough faith,to believe that God
would?
And I see,from what Jim posted here,that Gene Scott taught,that a person
could be saved and then,lose their salvation and go to hell. And that to
keep than from happening,a person had to keep up their faith.
And in the post,I see where JimM said;
believe it. That is,that we save ourself,by our faith and we keep
ourself saved,by our faith. But as scripture plainly says,we are saved
by God's grace,through faith and that not of ourself;but such,is God
gifts to us. And scripture tells us,we are not saved by our faith;but by
the faith,of Jesus Christ. His faith,not ours.
"And you hath he (God) quickened (made alive),who were dead in
trespasses and sins. Wherein in time past you walked according to the
course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the
air,the spirit that now works in the children of disobedience. Among
whom also we all had our conversation (manner of life) in times past in
the lusts of our flesh,fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the
mind and were by nature the children of wrath,even as others. But God,
who is rich in mercy,for his great love wherewith he loved us, Even when
we were dead in sins,has quickened us (made us alive) together with
Christ,(by grace you are saved;) And has raised us up together and made
us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: That in the ages to
come he might show the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness
toward us through Christ Jesus. For by grace are you saved through faith
and that not of yourselves,it is the gift of God. Not of works,lest any
person should boast. For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ
Jesus unto good works,
which God has before ordained that we should walk in them." Ephesians
2:1,10
Daniel,I'm confused about this Jim McClarity and what he was doing
posting in here,in 2005? Was he a former member,of Gene Scott's church?
A former follower,of his? And I see by his webpage,
that Jim's a dyed in the wool Calvinist. Just as I was once brought up
in church and taught to believe and be. But if he was once a follower of
Gene Scott,was he a Calvinist at that time or only afterwards? Well,I'm
also wondering,if Gene Scott was a Calvinist or an Arminian/free will
type,in belief?
Well,I read the post again and I can see,as Jim wrote it,that Gene Scott
was obviously,no Calvinist in belief. And it surely seems,from what I've
read here, that he was much more a Pentecostal/ Holiness type,who
believed that God had to heal him and would,if he just had enough faith.
But did the man never mention or bring up the fact,that it just might
not be God's will,to heal him? Or did he say/teach,that God had to? And
that God would,just as long as he had enough faith,to believe that God
would?
And I see,from what Jim posted here,that Gene Scott taught,that a person
could be saved and then,lose their salvation and go to hell. And that to
keep than from happening,a person had to keep up their faith.
And in the post,I see where JimM said;
"Gene does not have faith in Christ's full and finished atoning work.
Gene has faith in his own faith to save him."
Well,that's exactly how many people are falsely taught it and taught to
Gene has faith in his own faith to save him."
believe it. That is,that we save ourself,by our faith and we keep
ourself saved,by our faith. But as scripture plainly says,we are saved
by God's grace,through faith and that not of ourself;but such,is God
gifts to us. And scripture tells us,we are not saved by our faith;but by
the faith,of Jesus Christ. His faith,not ours.
"And you hath he (God) quickened (made alive),who were dead in
trespasses and sins. Wherein in time past you walked according to the
course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the
air,the spirit that now works in the children of disobedience. Among
whom also we all had our conversation (manner of life) in times past in
the lusts of our flesh,fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the
mind and were by nature the children of wrath,even as others. But God,
who is rich in mercy,for his great love wherewith he loved us, Even when
we were dead in sins,has quickened us (made us alive) together with
Christ,(by grace you are saved;) And has raised us up together and made
us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: That in the ages to
come he might show the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness
toward us through Christ Jesus. For by grace are you saved through faith
and that not of yourselves,it is the gift of God. Not of works,lest any
person should boast. For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ
Jesus unto good works,
which God has before ordained that we should walk in them." Ephesians
2:1,10
Ronny TX
Feb 18, 2012, 12:30:48 AM2/18/12
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Re: Scott's True Theology
Group: alt.fan.gene-scott Date: Fri, Feb 3, 2012, 7:23am (CST-2) From:
the.siz...@yahoo.com (Weatherman)
I don't doubt at all,that is sometimes true; but not always. For
instance,I was never smug in my knowing,that I couldn't lose, my
salvation,my being born of God. Well, that had to do,with my
knowing,that God had saved me and not,that I'd saved myself. And it had
to do,with God humbling me,as God saved me-as God brought me to
repentance towards God. And God doing that for me afterwards as well,in
my life and when I needed such humbling.
WM to Matt:
I come from the school,that says God keeps working on us,teaching us,
conforming us to the image of God's Son,Jesus Christ and that God,never,
ever gives up on us! :-) And that what is true,for God's working and
work in my life,is just as true,for every person and their life. So I
come from the school that stresses,that the good shepherd,Jesus
Christ,he keeps going until he has found the very last sheep,put it on
his shoulder and brings it safely home! :-)
Group: alt.fan.gene-scott Date: Fri, Feb 3, 2012, 7:23am (CST-2) From:
the.siz...@yahoo.com (Weatherman)
On Feb 2, 10:42 pm, matt2442 <matt2...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Matt2442:
Jim's words of wisdom were very timely and needed at that moment. I hope
it spoke to many of the scotties who were reading here.
Matt2442:
Jim's words of wisdom were very timely and needed at that moment. I hope
it spoke to many of the scotties who were reading here.
"To use one of his favorite phrases, he is hung on his own petard.
Gene does not have faith in Christ's full and finished atoning work.
Gene has faith in his own faith to save him."
Gene does not have faith in Christ's full and finished atoning work.
Gene has faith in his own faith to save him."
Not only that but he also robbed his congregation (local and elsewhere)
of the ability to trust in His finished work. Oh he offered that, but he
yanked it away and stuck the law of the tithe and attendance in it's
place.
WM to Matt:
of the ability to trust in His finished work. Oh he offered that, but he
yanked it away and stuck the law of the tithe and attendance in it's
place.
WM-Yea right Matt. Looks more like a conflict between a once saved
always saved mindset and the other well known idea.....that you can lose
it. Naturally the once and always are smug and give off the fumes of
pride.
Ronny to WM:
always saved mindset and the other well known idea.....that you can lose
it. Naturally the once and always are smug and give off the fumes of
pride.
I don't doubt at all,that is sometimes true; but not always. For
instance,I was never smug in my knowing,that I couldn't lose, my
salvation,my being born of God. Well, that had to do,with my
knowing,that God had saved me and not,that I'd saved myself. And it had
to do,with God humbling me,as God saved me-as God brought me to
repentance towards God. And God doing that for me afterwards as well,in
my life and when I needed such humbling.
WM to Matt:
Gene comes from the oil in the lamp school. You go away from the door
even to get more oil and the door may be opened while you are gone. If
the the atonment were enough then the whole world would be saved as
christ bought up the whole field. But as we see in the story of the oil
even some that know where the door is will be lost when they come back
to find it closed.
Ronny to WM:
even to get more oil and the door may be opened while you are gone. If
the the atonment were enough then the whole world would be saved as
christ bought up the whole field. But as we see in the story of the oil
even some that know where the door is will be lost when they come back
to find it closed.
I come from the school,that says God keeps working on us,teaching us,
conforming us to the image of God's Son,Jesus Christ and that God,never,
ever gives up on us! :-) And that what is true,for God's working and
work in my life,is just as true,for every person and their life. So I
come from the school that stresses,that the good shepherd,Jesus
Christ,he keeps going until he has found the very last sheep,put it on
his shoulder and brings it safely home! :-)
Ronny TX
Feb 18, 2012, 12:43:31 AM2/18/12
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Re: Scott's True Theology
Group: alt.fan.gene-scott Date: Fri, Feb 3, 2012, 7:19pm (CST-2) From:
dano...@netzero.net (Daniel)
On Feb 3, 7:23 am, Weatherman <the.sizeofah...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Feb 2, 10:42 pm, matt2442 <matt2...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Matt2442:
Jim's words of wisdom were very timely and needed at that moment. I hope
it spoke to many of the scotties who were reading here.
"To use one of his favorite phrases, he is hung on his own petard.
Gene does not have faith in Christ's full and finished atoning work.
Gene has faith in his own faith to save him."
Not only that but he also robbed his congregation (local and elsewhere)
of the ability to trust in His finished work. Oh he offered that, but he
yanked it away and stuck the law of the tithe and attendance in it's
place.
WM to Matt:
WM-Yea right Matt. Looks more like a conflict between a once saved
always saved mindset and the other well known idea.....that you can lose
it. Naturally the once and always are smug and give off the fumes of
pride. Gene comes from the oil in the lamp school. You go away from the
Matt2442:
Jim's words of wisdom were very timely and needed at that moment. I hope
it spoke to many of the scotties who were reading here.
"To use one of his favorite phrases, he is hung on his own petard.
Gene does not have faith in Christ's full and finished atoning work.
Gene has faith in his own faith to save him."
Not only that but he also robbed his congregation (local and elsewhere)
of the ability to trust in His finished work. Oh he offered that, but he
yanked it away and stuck the law of the tithe and attendance in it's
place.
WM to Matt:
WM-Yea right Matt. Looks more like a conflict between a once saved
always saved mindset and the other well known idea.....that you can lose
it. Naturally the once and always are smug and give off the fumes of
door even to get more oil and the door may be opened while you are gone.
If the the atonment were enough then the whole world would be saved as
christ bought up the whole field. But as we see in the story of the oil
even some that know where the door is will be lost when they come back
to find it closed.
Daniel to WM:
If the the atonment were enough then the whole world would be saved as
christ bought up the whole field. But as we see in the story of the oil
even some that know where the door is will be lost when they come back
to find it closed.
You got it wrong big time...there is nothing wrong with enjoying the
biblical truth of ones eternal security nothing to do with smugness, if
you think the anointing work is not enough than how many works (aka
faith actions) are needed to keep one saved? How good is good enough?
The misquote of the scripture of the virgins with there lamp of oil
speaks of the saved and the unsaved the unsaved try to light the lamp by
there own efforts while those with the lamp full are those who have the
spirit of God they dont have to have to worry about there lamps going
out because they have believed on the Lord Jesus Christ for there
salvation. The foolish virgins had religion the wise Virgins have Jesus
Christ.Salvation is full complete and forever......Hebrews 7:25
Therefore He is also able to save to the uttermost those who come to God
through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them.
Ronny to:
biblical truth of ones eternal security nothing to do with smugness, if
you think the anointing work is not enough than how many works (aka
faith actions) are needed to keep one saved? How good is good enough?
The misquote of the scripture of the virgins with there lamp of oil
speaks of the saved and the unsaved the unsaved try to light the lamp by
there own efforts while those with the lamp full are those who have the
spirit of God they dont have to have to worry about there lamps going
out because they have believed on the Lord Jesus Christ for there
salvation. The foolish virgins had religion the wise Virgins have Jesus
Christ.Salvation is full complete and forever......Hebrews 7:25
Therefore He is also able to save to the uttermost those who come to God
through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them.
Amen! :-)
And some more scripture on this.
All that the Father gives me shall come to me and he that comes to me I
will in no wise cast out. For I came down from heaven,not to do mine own
will,but the will of him that sent me. And this is the Father's will who
has sent me,that of all which he has given me I should lose nothing,but
should raise it up again at the last day. And this is the will of him
that sent me,that every one which sees the Son and believes on him,may
have everlasting life and I will raise him up at the last day." John
6:37,40
"Jesus therefore answered and said unto them,Murmur not among
yourselves. No man can come to me,except the Father who has sent me draw
him and I will raise him up at the last day. It is written in the
prophets,And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that
has heard, and has learned of the Father,comes unto me." John 6:43,45
geraldkrug
Feb 18, 2012, 7:17:53 PM2/18/12
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You can not be taught God because God is all connecting so you'd never
know his current state.
know his current state.
Weatherman
Feb 18, 2012, 8:44:47 PM2/18/12
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On Feb 17, 9:43 pm, Acts17...@webtv.net (Ronny TX) wrote:
> Re: Scott's True Theology
> Group: alt.fan.gene-scott Date: Fri, Feb 3, 2012, 7:19pm (CST-2) From:
> dano2...@netzero.net (Daniel)
> Re: Scott's True Theology
> Group: alt.fan.gene-scott Date: Fri, Feb 3, 2012, 7:19pm (CST-2) From:
have been ready at the first comming. "the cry"...."the voice of one
crying in the wilderness". Jesus does say we sould be ready and
watchfull. "watch therefore for you know not whathour the Lord doth
come". By your reading then only the sheep will be watching.
But they are still admonished to watch and not be taken unaware. This
and the surrounding parables suggest some effort on the part of the
watchers. "They knew not untill the flood came and took them all
away".
babyshoes
Feb 19, 2012, 3:38:34 AM2/19/12
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philedelphia
Mar 24, 2012, 10:19:58 AM3/24/12
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ronnytx
But,it would just be so nice,if there was a place or places
online,where
> I could go and read,the basic teachings/beliefs,of both Gene and Melissa
> Scott,in their own words. First,really wanting to start with his,so I
> can try and remember what it was in the past,that I do seem to remember,
> agreeing with him about,etc?
kro to ronnytx
online,where
> I could go and read,the basic teachings/beliefs,of both Gene and Melissa
> Scott,in their own words. First,really wanting to start with his,so I
> can try and remember what it was in the past,that I do seem to remember,
> agreeing with him about,etc?
no such place. illuminati have seen to that.
heres another synopsis
the strife surrounding Dr.Scott was that he was a very presumptious
elitist and abusive with staff.
I my self was a supporter from longdistance for 15 years and i
also supported melissa scott for another 5 yrs so i never knew of the
behind the scenes goings on until i surfed in here and discovered to
my horror what a narssistic and greedy person he was. Many ex-staff
members here have reported working for the man and never being paid
for very long periods of time if at all. The hours they would put in
were inhumane and it was a thankless and loveless endeavor. Dr.Scott
rode the backs of vlunteers and staffs suffering to a very self
absorbed and lavish lifestyle. Understand that dr.Scott did in fact
threaten people with hell for not tithing, paying firstfruits,
tabernacle offerings, desiganated with a dollar amount of 203.00,
double portion month, pastors offerings and some 20 + offerings
designated as secrets over the course of his ministry.
Know that i am not against tithing myself nor am i opposed to the
importance of worship (offerings), but in the final 15 yrs of
dr.scotts life he became fixiated on it. What started out as a Godly
expression of giving Gods way and a declaration to an onlooking world
that the church is not a charity nor is God a beggar, became an
exersize in proving your saved by giving money.
Dr.Scott preached an uncompromised version of the gosple saved by
grace through faith and no buts attatched and this is what attracted
many of us here to his ministry. Many here had walked away from the
self-righteous/hypocrytical works oriented church at large but had
not
abanded God in the process, Dr.Scott brought us back with the
message
of grace and peace, faith and genuin worship of God. But sadly his
fixation over money became a legalistic bondage in itself hence he
became a vampiric hypocryt touting freedom in christ yet bondage to
his own approval whatever the standard (money, undying obedience to
his foulmouthed tyrany and abusive exploitation of staff and
volunteers)
As for melissa Scott
It was Dr.Scotts own narssistic liberty in christ that brought her
into the fold. She was a paid escort one of 5 or 6 that he paid to
follow him around where ever he went including church. He would
march
all of the "ponygirls into the church every sunday and demand that
all
stand and applaud the farce at risk of excommunication while they
were
seated in the front row. These girls (including melissa were paid to
come to church and in doing so the message of grace dr.Scott
proclaimed and exemplified became a liscentious distraction.
Inexcusable!
Finally Dr.Scott settled on choosing mellisa to marry and she was
designated "Administrative pastor" Dr.Scott seems to have givin her
a
free pass from the standards and expectations he so harshly burdened
the rest of the congregation. Reports from those up close and
personal
detail a very mean spirited and spoiled woman. Not the person you
get
to see in public. She participated in the systamatic abuse that
Dr.Scott was exacting on any one close to him.
Dr.Scott had intentions for his ministry to continue after his
passing. He had amassed a a fortune over the course of his life to
that end. He intended for his voice/messages (all of them) to
continue
being broadcast around the world 24 hrs a day and 7 days a week till
jesus come. Dr.Scott had a web site chaulked full of 30 yrs of
teachings in operation when he passed on. Any and all could access
that site and download his messages freely and at there own
discretion
as often and as much as they desired. furthermore he purchased the
los angeles university cathedral (the church itself) and it was paid
for in full befor his passing so as to insure that the heart of the
city have a beakon of light ever present.
Point is, after Dr.Scotts passing "administrator scott" was to be
entrusted with carrying out his wishes and she did'nt. She almost
immediatly took down his web site and all those archives while
simutaneously phasing out his voice and supplanting it with her own.
Congregates would have filled that church every sunday and watched
Dr.scott on a screen as a testimoney to the importance of the message
and his legacy.
Also, after docs passing it was reported that melissa scott was
cohorting with the same charlatens that Dr.Scott booted out when he
took over faith center and that would be TBN and the crouchs "clowns
for jesus" man pleasing fakes. the very fact that she would even be
intrested in there likes is a testimony to the fact that she had no
affinity with the indignation Dr.Scott had for the shame these people
bring upon the lord.
As for her porn past
Melissa scott did an interveiw with mary clair (i think thats the
right name) magazine in which she was directly asked did you do porn?
her reply? No if i start defending that what else will i have to
defend? Good question. what else would you have to defend pms.
point is we here at afgs dont judge her for her seedy past. What we
despise is lying about it and yes her response to that question
infers
shes lying. If she would have simply been honest as a pastor should
be and said thats behind me it would have been a testimony to the
grace of Gods forgiveness not to mention those in that industry that
may have come to the lord with the understanding that god forgives
past present and future, takes you as you are and if there is any
changing its gods vertical miracle via the indwelling of his spirit
not in response to horizontal pressure placed upon us by others that
would have us conform to there imperfect image of what a christian
should or should'nt be. for faith god puts on the spectical of
christ and veiws us with the imputed righteoussness of christ, a
finished product freed by the blood of the lamb and loved by a
forgiving god.
Anyway, melissa scott is selling the church silencing dr.Scotts voice
and riding his legacy to her own elitist illuminati vain glory. shes a
liar and a
hypocryt for not washing the slate comming clean about the abuse
apoligizing for her part in it as well as for her husbands tyranny and
involvement in subversive beliefs related to watchers and i quote
dr.scott
"in the beginning gods (plural) created the heavens and the earth. I
dont know what that does to your theology but thats what it says"
what a hummdinger that presumptious insinuation in ignorence on docs
part has evolved into
Now i will say this and its a paradox Dr.Scott is the greatest bible
teacher of our time he was Gods man on point. But he became a self-
righteouss hypocryt and a very narsistic abuser, sad but true.
As for the infighting, this forum is made up of very diverse opinions
that share a common scott experience yes there is a potential for
infighting to break out but that is the nature of an uncensored forum
and like Dr.scott used to say where ever there is a fight going on
especialy over things that pertain to God and his church, chances are
that a very important spiritual truth is battling to break through
into edifying revelation. Not all of the infighting is such for some
of it is just carnal enmity and sinful men and women just being the
sinful jackass's they can be.
this forum has primarily become a place to air these Scott issues out
pros and cons it is also a place of healing for those that can hear
it. Many of us invested a major portion of our lives to the scott
ministry and its a unique experience in ways. we need a place where
we can discuss these issues with those in the know.
I hope i was able to help you understand the nature and purpose of
the
place you now find yourself posting in.
yours truly
kevin (aka surfkrow aka philedelphia aka kro)
Gypsie
Mar 24, 2012, 11:03:08 AM3/24/12
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gypsie: Afgs represents a wide spectrum of personalities with their
own thoughts and experiences....... you can not and do not speak for
afgs, you can only speak for yourself asswipe.
philedelphia
Mar 24, 2012, 12:29:45 PM3/24/12
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philedelphia
Mar 24, 2012, 1:52:55 PM3/24/12
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gypsie makes her conflict the issue of the occassion left no room for
good faith not to mention good will...
laodicea
have more wine dear...now you were saying? ahh yes yes the afgs world
amidst territorial dispute...lol
truth is...
to a degree i dont speak for the shared scott experience and that
realization provokes a fewe of reactions
1) im happy about that cause it enabled me to keep growing and
discovering
2 ) it scares me because it should'nt be that way afgs hurts itself
and or is under courrupt illuminati occupation . theres always at
least one illuminati agent provocature to keep the orbit of assembly
heading in its prescribed due course
or
3) "2)" is correct by ignorent default (highly unlikely)
"if your not for me your against me" end game here in ignorent
default as to the nature of the occassion for this forum helps the
advisary the illumiinati via sin of unbelief and the inaction that
follows on the part of those likeminded, amused, entertained and or
just plain ole indifferent to the conversation taking place around
these principalaties
and i see that you have begun to notice the anomolies that crop up in
the gospel of john that suggest a need for further explanation. good
good
the journey doesnt end here, take care christian
geraldkrug
Mar 24, 2012, 7:17:49 PM3/24/12
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The point is the Pope said no to PMS and all the other women TV fuck
holes for God...
Well I guess I won't get laid tonight...ME, God of course.
holes for God...
Well I guess I won't get laid tonight...ME, God of course.
philedelphia
Mar 25, 2012, 3:59:34 AM3/25/12
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ya know...i can do better than this now..and with less words lol
that synopsys was an early post of mine when i was still enamored in
immature fashion
in fact ronnytx i could and would be delighted to give you a tour of
scott theology
based on what i am familiar with i would be inclined to call to your
attention two primary issues with regard to jesus as i witnessed dr,
scott emphasize it
[there is a third issue i keep in my vest pocket its the issue of the
ressurection per doc approach]
firstly, the issue of grace and peace from which dr scott drew heavily
from paul.
for example take note of how many times paul opens his letters with
the phrase "grace and peace"
paul rescued the gospel and dr scott grasped that as well as pauls
struggles with applying worship in a the correct new testiment frame
of reference as it translated from the old testiment types . i can
still hear dr scott bellowing "no not for an hour that the truth of
the gospel might continue with you" :)
the second issue is the issue of sabbathing "faithing" upon jesus
christ drawing from romans to galatians dr scott rediscoverd the
scriptural spearhead of reformation in the western world "the just
shall live by faith with its three fold emphasis "the JUST shall live
by faith" meaning the issue of the just as the bible defines "the
just" well they live by faith ...they are justified by their faith
(ing) in jesus christ...(no perfectionism here just sabbothing on the
finished works of christ.)
the second emphasis being "the just shall LIVE by faith" meaning the
issue is "life".. the ressurection life via faith in christ which is
already defined as just
and thirdly "the just shall live by FAITH" meaning the emphasis is on
the application of faithing on the promises of god in the face of
circumstances irritation or confound.
further more dr.scott had a keen insight into the message of the
potters house
and a gift for drawing out the true nature of biblical charscters
both old testiment and new
just a snap shot
philedelphia
Mar 25, 2012, 4:40:13 AM3/25/12
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now for some detail
lets find out what knowleledge base we share ronnytx whatta ya say :)
then we can understand each other when we reference key words phrases
and ideas really...
goes like this
any triggers in what follows?
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let your moderation be known the lord is at hand
dr. sctt
"dont be so absolutely unbending in your as you see it just due...
loose in the saddle down here pilgrims on a pilgrimage aliens and
strangers down here citizens of a heavenly kingdom ...outta act like
it"
when the truth hits home its an axiomatic occurance...the change in
nature is due in no small part by the change in focus not
ability..ability is cultivated from the least to the greatest (into
the greatest) and we covet how pathetic... anyway.
precious psalms to live by..
"underneath bottomless are the everlasting arms to catch you" and ps
139 1-10 (at least)
book of hebrews the"heroes of faith" only place in scripture where man
is uligized by god, memorialized apart from the woman with the
alabastor box... oh and the alabastor box..well doc turned that into
pandoras box so here goes..
docs emphasis of giving via the alabastor scene had a virtue in it a
pearl of truth not to be lost but now to wit stored away a snap shot
that has begun to fade of the worship of god in the face of an evil
world. the pandora box it morphed into is gods blessing called
disclosure of the revelation code and the merger of johns compass and
the feild map of the christ through his ministry however meeger its
begining and tested its end be..
the lot of zacharias has come to pass and the oath to elizabeth has
been consecrated
john is great only in the eyes of those that recognize him as such and
they are john in that their voice is of one accord and it is a
pleasing sound to the lord heard out of the mouth of babes
docs application of faithing was intended for the focus of the gospel
revelation, the prescriptions of the book of revelation reserved for
the last days application by a last days generation with a last days
understanding of the prescriptions and the faith required to enter
into applying them into occuring on the stage of history for the
namesake of jesus the christ and his father the most high living god
that was evolved side bar lol
philedelphia
Mar 25, 2012, 8:30:39 AM3/25/12
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shoot why not more on the evolved side bar lol
the life of faith grace and peace in truth and love in our current
parenthesis of time prior to trib tribgreat is translated into loving
one another as we learn from the prescriptions via inference that lay
dormant in gods word designated for a future time with its own unique
occassion and coloquial veiw
learning via inference from revelatory prescriptions found in the
paralells of the book of revelation and the testimony of jesus in
johns gospel. in this mind set i have found myself understanding
what the apostles and our lord meant by keeping constant watch for the
day of the lord to draw nigh...
see when one is aware of the true focus of the goins on in all them
words in that book then one realises to infer a lesson...if this then
that if this scriptual passage denotes that future scene applied for
that future reason than what light does that cast on my goins on? is
it for or against.? so one finds oneself watching the day as in
applying the prescriptions to there current state of affairs and or
thier hypothetical culmination...."watching the day" "keeping watch"
observing the season...
see the inference process...this is minding the holy spirit in a very
important way, the whole thought process is rooted in ideas conveyed
via gods living (relevent) word into the heart via inference into
identity with "the cause" because the understanding of the mechanism
at work here is realised, eyes are wide open and choices made wisely.
cofee break and a bass is calling my name
philedelphia
Mar 25, 2012, 9:36:03 AM3/25/12
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the inclination
. (((((((studio))))))) .
Mar 25, 2012, 1:59:51 PM3/25/12
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geraldkrug
Mar 28, 2012, 10:25:06 PM3/28/12
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I'm up in the cold here near the world seed repository.
I'm in a special vehicle and I'm gonna live here now.
I got a message to evacuate here so I'm gone people.
I'm in a special vehicle and I'm gonna live here now.
I got a message to evacuate here so I'm gone people.
geraldkrug
Mar 28, 2012, 11:01:32 PM3/28/12
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You can go here...To get saved...
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Gypsie
Mar 29, 2012, 3:17:55 AM3/29/12
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On Mar 25, 10:59 am, ". (((((((studio))))))) ." <studios...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Dood, speeeek Ingalesh! I cunt udder staind a syngul werd yer sea yan.- Hide quoted text -
it is not understanding that is being sought, it is attention... me me
me me me me me me seems to me that is the whole game. hmm mebbe it is
for the best, at least when these posts are kill filed (for those not
in the know, killfile is a filter that allows you to entirely block
out receiving these and other posts that are only here to obfuscate,
block out actualy intelligent convo as well as degrade this NG in the
whole).
A clue that a scottobyte is getting too enamored with self as time
goes on is that they are able to really post and then answer only to
themselves. As doc was in his waning years, these scottobytes that
linger at afgs find that it is only their company that they can really
tolerate in the end and so, they go about bouncing their brains from
pillar to post until they come to the realization that in reality they
are really the only ones that can understand what they are posting. I
predict that it won't be long before eats etc will become another sio
and thoroughly enjoy all of his convos with himself as this is really
the only human being... look for an eats site (link coming soon!!!)
wrote:
>
> - Show quoted text -
gypsie: sorry studio, asswipe eats will never post to be understood,
> - Show quoted text -
it is not understanding that is being sought, it is attention... me me
me me me me me me seems to me that is the whole game. hmm mebbe it is
for the best, at least when these posts are kill filed (for those not
in the know, killfile is a filter that allows you to entirely block
out receiving these and other posts that are only here to obfuscate,
block out actualy intelligent convo as well as degrade this NG in the
whole).
A clue that a scottobyte is getting too enamored with self as time
goes on is that they are able to really post and then answer only to
themselves. As doc was in his waning years, these scottobytes that
linger at afgs find that it is only their company that they can really
tolerate in the end and so, they go about bouncing their brains from
pillar to post until they come to the realization that in reality they
are really the only ones that can understand what they are posting. I
predict that it won't be long before eats etc will become another sio
and thoroughly enjoy all of his convos with himself as this is really
the only human being... look for an eats site (link coming soon!!!)
. (((((((studio))))))) .
Mar 29, 2012, 5:02:27 PM3/29/12
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On Mar 29, 12:17 am, Gypsie <gypsiel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 25, 10:59 am, ". (((((((studio))))))) ." <studios...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > cofee break and a bass is calling my name
>
> > Dood, speeeek Ingalesh! I cunt udder staind a syngul werd yer sea yan.-
>
> On Mar 25, 10:59 am, ". (((((((studio))))))) ." <studios...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > cofee break and a bass is calling my name
>
> > Dood, speeeek Ingalesh! I cunt udder staind a syngul werd yer sea yan.-
>
t -
>
> gypsie: sorry studio, asswipe eats will never post to be understood,
> it is not understanding that is being sought, it is attention... me me
> me me me me me me seems to me that is the whole game. hmm mebbe it is
> for the best, at least when these posts are kill filed (for those not
> in the know, killfile is a filter that allows you to entirely block
> out receiving these and other posts that are only here to obfuscate,
> block out actualy intelligent convo as well as degrade this NG in the
> whole).
>
> A clue that a scottobyte is getting too enamored with self as time
> goes on is that they are able to really post and then answer only to
> themselves. As doc was in his waning years, these scottobytes that
> linger at afgs find that it is only their company that they can really
> tolerate in the end and so, they go about bouncing their brains from
> pillar to post until they come to the realization that in reality they
> are really the only ones that can understand what they are posting. I
> predict that it won't be long before eats etc will become another sio
> and thoroughly enjoy all of his convos with himself as this is really
> the only human being... look for an eats site (link coming soon!!!)
You forgot the flap flap flap, smoochies!
>
> gypsie: sorry studio, asswipe eats will never post to be understood,
> it is not understanding that is being sought, it is attention... me me
> me me me me me me seems to me that is the whole game. hmm mebbe it is
> for the best, at least when these posts are kill filed (for those not
> in the know, killfile is a filter that allows you to entirely block
> out receiving these and other posts that are only here to obfuscate,
> block out actualy intelligent convo as well as degrade this NG in the
> whole).
>
> A clue that a scottobyte is getting too enamored with self as time
> goes on is that they are able to really post and then answer only to
> themselves. As doc was in his waning years, these scottobytes that
> linger at afgs find that it is only their company that they can really
> tolerate in the end and so, they go about bouncing their brains from
> pillar to post until they come to the realization that in reality they
> are really the only ones that can understand what they are posting. I
> predict that it won't be long before eats etc will become another sio
> and thoroughly enjoy all of his convos with himself as this is really
> the only human being... look for an eats site (link coming soon!!!)
geraldkrug
Mar 29, 2012, 5:37:25 PM3/29/12
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Eats has real talent, he plays bass with his projecting ass hemorrhoid.
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