Here is post from the archives about Scott's true theology which is
far cry from biblical christianity put into words by someone who can
say it alot better than I can.......
jmccla...@yahoo.com View profile Yesterday morning, before we
started our Sunday service, Tom told me that Gene was sick and that
the band was now flanked by additional singers, ostensibly to push
Melissa along and cover the sour notes. When I got home I clicked onto
Gene's site for the first time in years and watched the morning
service --- we're in the Central time zone, so his 11:00 a.m. service
broadcasts at 1:00 p.m. our time. What I saw was the culmination of
years of errant theology coming to fruition. Here's what I mean.
Gene always taught that if you died in the act of "faithing" you would
go to Heaven. He likened it to being plugged into a wall socket. As
long as you left this world "plugged in," you were assured an entrance
into God's eternity. Now, here at what appears to be the end of his
life, he is forced to cling to his declarations that God must heal
him. He believes that his faith in God's eventual healing is
tantamount to staying "plugged in." He has no choice but to insist on
God's miraculous deliverance, because if he stops believing that he
risks dying in a "non-faithing" state and being eternally lost. To use
one of his favorite phrases, he is hung on his own petard. Gene does
not have faith in Christ's full and finished atoning work. Gene has
faith in his own faith to save him. However, in one of his countless
contradictions and confusions, he also teaches that God determines the
very moment of your death. That being the case, God can decide (quite
capriciously, I suppose) to kill you during a "faithing" moment or
during a lapse. In the end, it is still up to God whether you wind up
in Heaven or not. I hope everyone who watches his continued physical
corruption and eventual demise will recognize that his teaching has
not led him into a state of peace with God or confidence in his own
salvation. And the reason he has no peace is that he has taken the
focus off of Christ's finished atoning work. According to the author
of Hebrews, Christ's propitiatory sacrifice fully accomplished and
perfected the people for whom He died. "For by one offering he hath
perfected for ever them that are sanctified." (Heb. 10:14) Gene has
never taught on passages such as Hebrews 10:14 because if his
congregation ever truly embraced the full atonement of Christ they
would not live in slavish fear of Gene's wrath and continue emptying
their pocketbooks in order to appease him. Gene is scared. You can
hear it in his voice and in his choice of Psalms. He is craving some
assurance that he is going to be okay before God. But, he has no
genuine peace because his synergistic theology cannot produce rest for
the weary soul. It only produces ongoing work of the fleshly mind,
attempting to create levels of faith sufficient to obligate God both
temporally and eternally. At best, his theology is confused. At
worst, it is heresy. Again, I hope everyone witnessing this pathetic
spectacle will realize that his theology inevitably led his deathbed
panic. And, unless they embrace the gospel of Christ in all his
sufficiency, they too will wind up like their "pastor" --- flailing in
the wind, without hope or peace, craving some sense of well-being
where none exists. Anyway, that's the view from here. Jim McClarty
www.salvationbygrace.org More options Jan 24 2005, 7:23 am
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Yesterday morning, before we started our Sunday service, Tom told me
that Gene was sick and that the band was now flanked by additional
singers, ostensibly to push Melissa along and cover the sour notes.
When I got home I clicked onto Gene's site for the first time in
years
and watched the morning service --- we're in the Central time zone,
so
his 11:00 a.m. service broadcasts at 1:00 p.m. our time.
What I saw was the culmination of years of errant theology coming to
fruition. Here's what I mean. Gene always taught that if you died
in
the act of "faithing" you would go to Heaven. He likened it to being
plugged into a wall socket. As long as you left this world "plugged
in," you were assured an entrance into God's eternity. Now, here at
what appears to be the end of his life, he is forced to cling to his
declarations that God must heal him. He believes that his faith in
God's eventual healing is tantamount to staying "plugged in." He has
no choice but to insist on God's miraculous deliverance, because if
he
stops believing that he risks dying in a "non-faithing" state and
being
eternally lost.
To use one of his favorite phrases, he is hung on his own petard.
Gene does not have faith in Christ's full and finished atoning work.
Gene has faith in his own faith to save him. However, in one of his
countless contradictions and confusions, he also teaches that God
determines the very moment of your death. That being the case, God
can
decide (quite capriciously, I suppose) to kill you during a
"faithing"
moment or during a lapse. In the end, it is still up to God whether
you wind up in Heaven or not.
I hope everyone who watches his continued physical corruption and
eventual demise will recognize that his teaching has not led him into
a
state of peace with God or confidence in his own salvation. And the
reason he has no peace is that he has taken the focus off of Christ's
finished atoning work. According to the author of Hebrews, Christ's
propitiatory sacrifice fully accomplished and perfected the people
for
whom He died. "For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them
that are sanctified." (Heb. 10:14)
Gene has never taught on passages such as Hebrews 10:14 because if
his
congregation ever truly embraced the full atonement of Christ they
would not live in slavish fear of Gene's wrath and continue emptying
their pocketbooks in order to appease him.
Gene is scared. You can hear it in his voice and in his choice of
Psalms. He is craving some assurance that he is going to be okay
before God. But, he has no genuine peace because his synergistic
theology cannot produce rest for the weary soul. It only produces
ongoing work of the fleshly mind, attempting to create levels of
faith
sufficient to obligate God both temporally and eternally. At best,
his
theology is confused. At worst, it is heresy.
Again, I hope everyone witnessing this pathetic spectacle will
realize
that his theology inevitably led his deathbed panic. And, unless
they
embrace the gospel of Christ in all his sufficiency, they too will
wind
up like their "pastor" --- flailing in the wind, without hope or
peace,
craving some sense of well-being where none exists.
Wegelin used a special code, "BNQ," on around 70 new U.S. undeclared
accounts that were opened over 2008 and 2009. It also sometimes opened
accounts for U.S. citizens who held passports from other countries,
and opened the accounts through the non-U.S. passports.
Matt2442:
Jim's words of wisdom were very timely and needed at that moment. I
hope it spoke to many of the scotties who were reading here.
"To use one of his favorite phrases, he is hung on his own petard.
Gene does not have faith in Christ's full and finished atoning work.
Gene has faith in his own faith to save him."
Not only that but he also robbed his congregation (local and
elsewhere) of the ability to trust in His finished work. Oh he offered
that, but he yanked it away and stuck the law of the tithe and
attendance in it's place.
On Feb 2, 10:42 pm, matt2442 <matt2...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Matt2442:
> Jim's words of wisdom were very timely and needed at that moment. I
> hope it spoke to many of the scotties who were reading here.
> "To use one of his favorite phrases, he is hung on his own petard.
> Gene does not have faith in Christ's full and finished atoning work.
> Gene has faith in his own faith to save him."
> Not only that but he also robbed his congregation (local and
> elsewhere) of the ability to trust in His finished work. Oh he offered
> that, but he yanked it away and stuck the law of the tithe and
> attendance in it's place.
WM-Yea right Matt. Looks more like a conflict between a once saved
always saved mindset and the other well known idea.....that you can
lose it. Naturally the once and always are smug and give off the fumes
of pride. Gene comes from the oil in the lamp school. You go away from
the door even to get more oil and the door may be opened while you are
gone. If the the atonment were enough then the whole world would be
saved as christ bought up the whole field. But as we see in the story
of the oil even some that know where the door is will be lost when
they come back to find it closed.
On 3 velj, 05:05, geraldkrug <gd...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Poor little PMS gonna get in trouble...
> Wegelin used a special code, "BNQ," on around 70 new U.S. undeclared
> accounts that were opened over 2008 and 2009. It also sometimes opened
> accounts for U.S. citizens who held passports from other countries,
> and opened the accounts through the non-U.S. passports.
why,little poor???she dont use passports,she use bible...Wegelin&co
gave accounts special names including "Elvis" and "Limpopo
Foundation",sounds like music bank account.
> On Feb 2, 10:42 pm, matt2442 <matt2...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Matt2442:
> > Jim's words of wisdom were very timely and needed at that moment. I
> > hope it spoke to many of the scotties who were reading here.
> > "To use one of his favorite phrases, he is hung on his own petard.
> > Gene does not have faith in Christ's full and finished atoning work.
> > Gene has faith in his own faith to save him."
> > Not only that but he also robbed his congregation (local and
> > elsewhere) of the ability to trust in His finished work. Oh he offered
> > that, but he yanked it away and stuck the law of the tithe and
> > attendance in it's place.
> WM-Yea right Matt. Looks more like a conflict between a once saved
> always saved mindset and the other well known idea.....that you can
> lose it. Naturally the once and always are smug and give off the fumes
> of pride. Gene comes from the oil in the lamp school. You go away from
> the door even to get more oil and the door may be opened while you are
> gone. If the the atonment were enough then the whole world would be
> saved as christ bought up the whole field. But as we see in the story
> of the oil even some that know where the door is will be lost when
> they come back to find it closed.
You got it wrong big time...there is nothing wrong with enjoying the
biblical truth of ones eternal security nothing to do with smugness,
if you think the anointing work is not enough than how many works (aka
faith actions) are needed to keep one saved? How good is good enough?
The misquote of the scripture of the virgins with there lamp of oil
speaks of the saved and the unsaved the unsaved try to light the lamp
by there own efforts while those with the lamp full are those who
have the spirit of God they dont have to have to worry about there
lamps going out because they have believed on the Lord Jesus Christ
for there salvation. The foolish virgins had religion the wise Virgins
have Jesus Christ.Salvation is full complete and forever......Hebrews
7:25
Therefore He is also able to save to the uttermost those who come to
God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them.
> WM-Yea right Matt. Looks more like a conflict between a once saved
> always saved mindset and the other well known idea.....that you can
> lose it. Naturally the once and always are smug and give off the fumes
> of pride.
> Gene comes from the oil in the lamp school. You go away from
> the door even to get more oil and the door may be opened while you are
> gone. If the the atonment were enough then the whole world would be
> saved as christ bought up the whole field. But as we see in the story
> of the oil even some that know where the door is will be lost when
> they come back to find it closed.
Matt2442:
Both sides can be smug and prideful. It depends on which side of the
argument we are on as to whom we perceive as being smug.
I don't think Jim was being smug, but he, from his Calvinist
perspective, saw through the holes in Scott's doctrine, mainly because
Scott DID in fact say many times that Christ's finished work of
atonement was enough (you know, "Jesus saves with no buts attached?).
I am not a Calvinist but I did appreciate his views on this at the
time.
I can see what you are saying though. As far as the "oil in the lamp
school", I thought the parable had to do with expecting the Lord's
return and being prepared. I know the oil is a symbol of the Holy
Spirit, and the 5 wise virgins kept their lamps full, expecting the
bridegroom to come at any moment, while the foolish did not maintain
their oil. Obviously something must be "done" to maintain the oil in
our lamps. How is the atonement not enough? How is the "oil"
maintained? By faithing actions? By tithing 25%? By attending the LAUC
every Sunday? By reaching the "amen level" of faith? That's what Doc
seemed to think and it left him without peace, perhaps until the very
end. I would think that maintaining the oil (the Holy Spirit) has
everything to do with Christ's atoning work on the cross being
sufficient, and trusting in that.
If nothing else, you've prompted me to study up on that parable.
"Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they be sound in the faith: Not
giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from
the truth."
(Titus 1:13-14)
For years many of you have written to me expressing questions and
concerns about the explosive topic of the Jews and the nation of
Israel. God has spoken to my heart on this matter and has compelled me
to devote many hundreds of hours studying His Word, praying, and
accomplishing research.
The Apostle Paul over and over tearfully warned the Christian Church
about the "accursed gospel" of the Judaizers (Galatians 1). How sad
that, today, the same Judaizer untruths and heresies are widespread.
Indeed, it being the last days, the chief and most blasphemous heresy
found inside the Christian Church today involves the poisonous fables
spread about by the Judaizers.
Doubly pitiful is that many sincere people have bought into the
Judaizer doctrines. This is a telling sign that Jesus spoke the truth
when he prophesied that in the end-time, the deception would be so
seductive and smooth that, "If it were possible, even the very elect
would be deceived" (Matthew 24:24).
The Number One Problem Plaguing the Church
I am persuaded that the "accursed gospel" (Galatians 1) of the
Judaizers is the number one problem plaguing the weakened, apostate
Christian Church. If a man or woman buys this lie, he will be sucked
into believing every lie! This is the leaven that spoils the whole.
The Judaizer Lie is the very Lie and Abomination that the Antichrist,
the Son of Perdition, will someday soon declare from the pulpit of a
rebuilt, unholy, last days Temple of the Jews in Jerusalem (see II
Thes. 2).
The reconstructed, national House of Israel—Israel after the flesh—
made up of Jews in Israel, in the U.S.A. and around the globe—is
clearly identified in the prophetic Scripture as "Mystery, Babylon the
Great."
This sordid, Christ-hating global Jewish Entity is the fount of almost
every evil on earth. Indeed, I produce a mountain of evidence proving
this in my groundbreaking video, Cauldron of Abaddon. The book of
Revelation calls this Jewish Entity by the horrible, but descriptive,
codename, "Sodom and Egypt" (Revelation 11:8). The Jewish Entity is
the head of the fearsome satanic Beast that was once wounded in 70 AD,
but lives. It is now using America as its proxy to conquer the Middle
East by military force.
> You got it wrong big time...there is nothing wrong with enjoying the
> biblical truth of ones eternal security nothing to do with smugness,
> if you think the <atoning> work is not enough than how many works (aka
> faith actions) are needed to keep one saved? How good is good enough?
> The misquote of the scripture of the virgins with there lamp of oil
> speaks of the saved and the unsaved the unsaved try to light the lamp
> by there own efforts while those with the lamp full are those who
> have the spirit of God they dont have to have to worry about there
> lamps going out because they have believed on the Lord Jesus Christ
> for there salvation. The foolish virgins had religion the wise Virgins
> have Jesus Christ.Salvation is full complete and forever......Hebrews
> 7:25
> Therefore He is also able to save to the uttermost those who come to
> God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them.
> Here is post from the archives about Scott's true theology which is
> far cry from biblical christianity put into words by someone who can
> say it alot better than I can.......
> jmccla...@yahoo.com View profile Yesterday morning, before we
> started our Sunday service, Tom told me that Gene was sick and that
> the band was now flanked by additional singers, ostensibly to push
> Melissa along and cover the sour notes. When I got home I clicked onto
> Gene's site for the first time in years and watched the morning
> service --- we're in the Central time zone, so his 11:00 a.m. service
> broadcasts at 1:00 p.m. our time. What I saw was the culmination of
> years of errant theology coming to fruition. Here's what I mean.
> Gene always taught that if you died in the act of "faithing" you would
> go to Heaven. He likened it to being plugged into a wall socket. As
> long as you left this world "plugged in," you were assured an entrance
> into God's eternity. Now, here at what appears to be the end of his
> life, he is forced to cling to his declarations that God must heal
> him. He believes that his faith in God's eventual healing is
> tantamount to staying "plugged in." He has no choice but to insist on
> God's miraculous deliverance, because if he stops believing that he
> risks dying in a "non-faithing" state and being eternally lost. To use
> one of his favorite phrases, he is hung on his own petard. Gene does
> not have faith in Christ's full and finished atoning work. Gene has
> faith in his own faith to save him. However, in one of his countless
> contradictions and confusions, he also teaches that God determines the
> very moment of your death. That being the case, God can decide (quite
> capriciously, I suppose) to kill you during a "faithing" moment or
> during a lapse. In the end, it is still up to God whether you wind up
> in Heaven or not. I hope everyone who watches his continued physical
> corruption and eventual demise will recognize that his teaching has
> not led him into a state of peace with God or confidence in his own
> salvation. And the reason he has no peace is that he has taken the
> focus off of Christ's finished atoning work. According to the author
> of Hebrews, Christ's propitiatory sacrifice fully accomplished and
> perfected the people for whom He died. "For by one offering he hath
> perfected for ever them that are sanctified." (Heb. 10:14) Gene has
> never taught on passages such as Hebrews 10:14 because if his
> congregation ever truly embraced the full atonement of Christ they
> would not live in slavish fear of Gene's wrath and continue emptying
> their pocketbooks in order to appease him. Gene is scared. You can
> hear it in his voice and in his choice of Psalms. He is craving some
> assurance that he is going to be okay before God. But, he has no
> genuine peace because his synergistic theology cannot produce rest for
> the weary soul. It only produces ongoing work of the fleshly mind,
> attempting to create levels of faith sufficient to obligate God both
> temporally and eternally. At best, his theology is confused. At
> worst, it is heresy. Again, I hope everyone witnessing this pathetic
> spectacle will realize that his theology inevitably led his deathbed
> panic. And, unless they embrace the gospel of Christ in all his
> sufficiency, they too will wind up like their "pastor" --- flailing in
> the wind, without hope or peace, craving some sense of well-being
> where none exists. Anyway, that's the view from here. Jim McClartywww.salvationbygrace.org > More options Jan 24 2005, 7:23 am
> Newsgroups: alt.fan.gene-scott
> From: JMcCla...@Yahoo.com
> Date: 24 Jan 2005 07:23:31 -0800
> Local: Mon, Jan 24 2005 7:23 am
> Subject: The View From Here
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> Yesterday morning, before we started our Sunday service, Tom told me
> that Gene was sick and that the band was now flanked by additional
> singers, ostensibly to push Melissa along and cover the sour notes.
> When I got home I clicked onto Gene's site for the first time in
> years
> and watched the morning service --- we're in the Central time zone,
> so
> his 11:00 a.m. service broadcasts at 1:00 p.m. our time.
> What I saw was the culmination of years of errant theology coming to
> fruition. Here's what I mean. Gene always taught that if you died
> in
> the act of "faithing" you would go to Heaven. He likened it to being
> plugged into a wall socket. As long as you left this world "plugged
> in," you were assured an entrance into God's eternity. Now, here at
> what appears to be the end of his life, he is forced to cling to his
> declarations that God must heal him. He believes that his faith in
> God's eventual healing is tantamount to staying "plugged in." He has
> no choice but to insist on God's miraculous deliverance, because if
> he
> stops believing that he risks dying in a "non-faithing" state and
> being
> eternally lost.
> To use one of his favorite phrases, he is hung on his own petard.
> Gene does not have faith in Christ's full and finished atoning work.
> Gene has faith in his own faith to save him. However, in one of his
> countless contradictions and confusions, he also teaches that God
> determines the very moment of your death. That being the case, God
> can
> decide (quite capriciously, I suppose) to kill you during a
> "faithing"
> moment or during a lapse. In the end, it is still up to God whether
> you wind up in Heaven or not.
> I hope everyone who watches his continued physical corruption and
> eventual demise will recognize that his teaching has not led him into
> a
> state of peace with God or confidence in his own salvation. And the
> reason he has no peace is that he has taken the focus off of Christ's
> finished atoning work. According to the author of Hebrews, Christ's
> propitiatory sacrifice fully accomplished and perfected the people
> for
> whom He died. "For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them
> that are sanctified." (Heb. 10:14)
> Gene has never taught on passages such as Hebrews 10:14 because if
> his
> congregation ever truly embraced the full atonement of Christ they
> would not live in slavish fear of Gene's wrath and continue emptying
> their pocketbooks in order to appease him.
> Gene is scared. You can hear it in his voice and in his choice of
> Psalms. He is craving some assurance that he is going to be okay
> before God. But, he has no genuine peace because his synergistic
> theology cannot produce rest for the weary soul. It only produces
> ongoing work of the fleshly mind, attempting to create levels of
> faith
> sufficient to obligate God both temporally and eternally. At best,
> his
> theology is confused. At worst, it is heresy.
> Again, I hope everyone witnessing this pathetic spectacle will
> realize
> that his theology inevitably led his deathbed panic. And, unless
> they
> embrace the gospel of Christ in all his sufficiency, they too will
> wind
> up like their "pastor" --- flailing in the wind, without hope or
> peace,
> craving some sense of well-being where none exists.
> On Feb 2, 8:52 pm, Daniel <dano2...@netzero.net> wrote:
> > Here is post from the archives about Scott's true theology which is
> > far cry from biblical christianity put into words by someone who can
> > say it alot better than I can.......
> > jmccla...@yahoo.com View profile Yesterday morning, before we
> > started our Sunday service, Tom told me that Gene was sick and that
> > the band was now flanked by additional singers, ostensibly to push
> > Melissa along and cover the sour notes. When I got home I clicked onto
> > Gene's site for the first time in years and watched the morning
> > service --- we're in the Central time zone, so his 11:00 a.m. service
> > broadcasts at 1:00 p.m. our time. What I saw was the culmination of
> > years of errant theology coming to fruition. Here's what I mean.
> > Gene always taught that if you died in the act of "faithing" you would
> > go to Heaven. He likened it to being plugged into a wall socket. As
> > long as you left this world "plugged in," you were assured an entrance
> > into God's eternity. Now, here at what appears to be the end of his
> > life, he is forced to cling to his declarations that God must heal
> > him. He believes that his faith in God's eventual healing is
> > tantamount to staying "plugged in." He has no choice but to insist on
> > God's miraculous deliverance, because if he stops believing that he
> > risks dying in a "non-faithing" state and being eternally lost. To use
> > one of his favorite phrases, he is hung on his own petard. Gene does
> > not have faith in Christ's full and finished atoning work. Gene has
> > faith in his own faith to save him. However, in one of his countless
> > contradictions and confusions, he also teaches that God determines the
> > very moment of your death. That being the case, God can decide (quite
> > capriciously, I suppose) to kill you during a "faithing" moment or
> > during a lapse. In the end, it is still up to God whether you wind up
> > in Heaven or not. I hope everyone who watches his continued physical
> > corruption and eventual demise will recognize that his teaching has
> > not led him into a state of peace with God or confidence in his own
> > salvation. And the reason he has no peace is that he has taken the
> > focus off of Christ's finished atoning work. According to the author
> > of Hebrews, Christ's propitiatory sacrifice fully accomplished and
> > perfected the people for whom He died. "For by one offering he hath
> > perfected for ever them that are sanctified." (Heb. 10:14) Gene has
> > never taught on passages such as Hebrews 10:14 because if his
> > congregation ever truly embraced the full atonement of Christ they
> > would not live in slavish fear of Gene's wrath and continue emptying
> > their pocketbooks in order to appease him. Gene is scared. You can
> > hear it in his voice and in his choice of Psalms. He is craving some
> > assurance that he is going to be okay before God. But, he has no
> > genuine peace because his synergistic theology cannot produce rest for
> > the weary soul. It only produces ongoing work of the fleshly mind,
> > attempting to create levels of faith sufficient to obligate God both
> > temporally and eternally. At best, his theology is confused. At
> > worst, it is heresy. Again, I hope everyone witnessing this pathetic
> > spectacle will realize that his theology inevitably led his deathbed
> > panic. And, unless they embrace the gospel of Christ in all his
> > sufficiency, they too will wind up like their "pastor" --- flailing in
> > the wind, without hope or peace, craving some sense of well-being
> > where none exists. Anyway, that's the view from here. Jim McClartywww.salvationbygrace.org > > More options Jan 24 2005, 7:23 am
> > Newsgroups: alt.fan.gene-scott
> > From: JMcCla...@Yahoo.com
> > Date: 24 Jan 2005 07:23:31 -0800
> > Local: Mon, Jan 24 2005 7:23 am
> > Subject: The View From Here
> > Reply to author | Forward | Print | Individual message | Show original
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> > Yesterday morning, before we started our Sunday service, Tom told me
> > that Gene was sick and that the band was now flanked by additional
> > singers, ostensibly to push Melissa along and cover the sour notes.
> > When I got home I clicked onto Gene's site for the first time in
> > years
> > and watched the morning service --- we're in the Central time zone,
> > so
> > his 11:00 a.m. service broadcasts at 1:00 p.m. our time.
> > What I saw was the culmination of years of errant theology coming to
> > fruition. Here's what I mean. Gene always taught that if you died
> > in
> > the act of "faithing" you would go to Heaven. He likened it to being
> > plugged into a wall socket. As long as you left this world "plugged
> > in," you were assured an entrance into God's eternity. Now, here at
> > what appears to be the end of his life, he is forced to cling to his
> > declarations that God must heal him. He believes that his faith in
> > God's eventual healing is tantamount to staying "plugged in." He has
> > no choice but to insist on God's miraculous deliverance, because if
> > he
> > stops believing that he risks dying in a "non-faithing" state and
> > being
> > eternally lost.
> > To use one of his favorite phrases, he is hung on his own petard.
> > Gene does not have faith in Christ's full and finished atoning work.
> > Gene has faith in his own faith to save him. However, in one of his
> > countless contradictions and confusions, he also teaches that God
> > determines the very moment of your death. That being the case, God
> > can
> > decide (quite capriciously, I suppose) to kill you during a
> > "faithing"
> > moment or during a lapse. In the end, it is still up to God whether
> > you wind up in Heaven or not.
> > I hope everyone who watches his continued physical corruption and
> > eventual demise will recognize that his teaching has not led him into
> > a
> > state of peace with God or confidence in his own salvation. And the
> > reason he has no peace is that he has taken the focus off of Christ's
> > finished atoning work. According to the author of Hebrews, Christ's
> > propitiatory sacrifice fully accomplished and perfected the people
> > for
> > whom He died. "For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them
> > that are sanctified." (Heb. 10:14)
> > Gene has never taught on passages such as Hebrews 10:14 because if
> > his
> > congregation ever truly embraced the full atonement of Christ they
> > would not live in slavish fear of Gene's wrath and continue emptying
> > their pocketbooks in order to appease him.
> > Gene is scared. You can hear it in his voice and in his choice of
> > Psalms. He is craving some assurance that he is going to be okay
> > before God. But, he has no genuine peace because his synergistic
> > theology cannot produce rest for the weary soul. It only produces
> > ongoing work of the fleshly mind, attempting to create levels of
> > faith
> > sufficient to obligate God both temporally and eternally. At best,
> > his
> > theology is confused. At worst, it is heresy.
> > Again, I hope everyone witnessing this pathetic spectacle will
> > realize
> > that his theology inevitably led his deathbed panic. And, unless
> > they
> > embrace the gospel of Christ in all his sufficiency, they too will
> > wind
> > up like their "pastor" --- flailing in the wind, without hope or
> > peace,
> > craving some sense of well-being where none exists.
> > Anyway, that's the view from here.
> > Jim McClartywww.salvationbygrace.org > Emmett writes:
> Daniel, I'm glad to see you finally figured Dr. jean out.- Hide quoted text -
> > Daniel, I'm glad to see you finally figured Dr. jean out.- Hide quoted text -
Daniel writes:-
> Thank You Emmett
.
studio:
What? That's it? No off the cuff comment on how
Emmett is being tongue in cheek about your beautiful post?
My goodness, what's happening here? First gypsie invites
the flying monkeys to our party here then she says she's
willing to be Melissa's lap pooch with a bible quote about
preaching incorrectly, NOW this?
I'm in shock........2012, this must be the end!
Next thing ya know Batty Addy will invite matt2442
and h8n s8n to his church on Sunday.......
they'll come back with new brides!
(brush up on yer Spanish).
The truth is when an energy God settles a society is built up
so the idea of God in clothes God in us Gods' outside is no matter
since inner is
so spiritual...
If you rip a mans clothes he is inconvenienced so the clothes are part
of man inside...
How much is to know then is not much but the transendentcy suprises us
everytime.
