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Obrien wrote:
That looks like the work of that little busy body SIO. The truth shall be
known about PMS!
What pisses me off is that about 6 months ago some of PMS's assistants
(Dean and Eli?) made a few minor changes to it, and THEN SAID IT WAS
OKAY (warts and all).
What pisses me off is that about 6 months ago some of PMS's assistants
(Dean and Eli?) made a few minor changes to it, and THEN SAID IT WAS
OKAY (warts and all).
Obrien wrote:
That's SIO using an Aussie prox.
Originals were cut and pasted to afgs archives for safe keeping
Melissa, you bad little girl!
We saw what you did and we know who you are!
Neow, get over here and give me a lapdance.
so, my question to you is, does it bring you pleasure to torment
"Barbie"? or do you even stop for one second and think about how
Christ- her Savior- feels? who do you think it is you're REALLY
grieving with your threats? or do you care? yes, i know, you're doing
it to "protect the innocents"...but, you never consider that- just
maybe- she started out in sincerity...and took a few wrong turns along
the way, huh?
you, yourself, started out posting on this board by lying...not a
healthy start, my friend.
then you name "yourself" after some saint to protect you from venerial
desease? (well, some DO trust in chariots)....
two more questions:
#1-how would YOU like YOUR past sins put on display?
and
#2 - what think ye of Christ?
( you don't have to answer this post- you don't owe me a single
answer- or anyone else for that matter), but, you might wanna just pull
in the reigns there just a bit and consider
a few things here. ......if you want to. if not...so be it.
oh, and just for the record, Jesus Christ CAN and DID erase
EVERYTHING...and i thank God for that in my own case. trust me on
this, if He did it for me, everyone's a shoe-in!! Rejoyce! that's Good
News for you! :)
Putting past sins on display?
They are already on display in front of God and the rest of the world.
There's no getting around it.
How can anyone give thier testimony of what The Cross did for them if they
didn't have a past to
reference?
Melissa has no past? BULLSHIT !
I'm sure most of us would be honest in telling of
our life in order to testify of the miracle that
Jesus performed on that cross for our sins.
I was once blind, but now I can see.
How would the Bible stories ever accomplish this feat if we all hid our
former lives under the sheets? We wouldn't know the truthful repentance
from the scams.
As for the second question, that is just another perfect example of
scott-bot spiritual oneupmanship. To ask what I think about Christ is like
some mind game that puts the poor soul who has to answer to you in some
sort of defensive mode.
Christ is not a spiritual bellhop!
Christ is not some flunky that you can claim it in his name for your
benefit.
Christ is not looking for your money to gain faith, or brownie points to
heaven.
Christ hates the money changers in His house of prayer.
Christ and His Spirit are the ONE TRUE DOMATA.
Christ needs no intermediate.
Melissa is a fake, a phoney, running a scam
on the good faith of those who have been duped
by her late husband's mind bending techniques.
As for "tormenting" Barbie, that would be impossible. The only torment
in her life might be when the bags come back empty.
You accuse me of "lying" - I assume you refer to my changing my posting
name periodically - perhaps you don't post in many forums and don't
realize that's the fun of posting - it happens here from time to time;
I am not the first nor shall I be the last.
It all depends on my mood or my message - the "sharpies" here have
figured me out long ago and know me by my writing style. Notice I
stress the "sharp" ones.
I don't consider my jabs and gibes "threats"; I threaten no one. Not
on this forum, not anywhere. If the truth annoys, so be it but it's
never presented as a "threat". Most of us here point out the sorrows
that befall some who have given their lives or livelihoods to the
Scotts. But you can't stop people from acting like morons and pointing
out the pitfalls in no way can be construed as a "threat". Certainly
not to the morons who keep going back for more.
I didn't name myself "St. Fiacre" to protect myself or anyone else in
this forum from venereal disease. Apparently you didn't read my
earlier explanation wherein I said
St. Fiacre was the Saint of gardeners and those suffering from veneral
disease.
My fellow posters were described by me as "gardeners in the Gardens of
God" but that some others in the LAUC were enjoying a lifestyle where
they might have welcomed a little protection from good old St. Fiacre.
How would I like my past sins put on display? Well, if I got paid
enough I'd be the first to hand a list over but I fear no one would pay
even $10 for my boring DVD. Say, if you can find someone to pay
$10,000 for one starring me, I'll do my best to go out and stir
something up! I think we'll both be waiting a long time.
Finally, what do I think of Christ? I think he would be appalled at
the antics going on in his name for the last 35 years. Personally, I
think Christ would have burst open the doors of the "cathedral",
grabbed G Scott by his scruffy old neck and with the rest of his
consorting pals, thrown them all out of the temple and down the stairs,
locking the door behind them. Then, he would have walked the streets
around there and attended to those who needed lifting.
Christ surely paid for our sins but that doesn't mean you can sin and
sin again and think each sin is erased by pleading to God for
forgiveness. Sinning is a lot more than just lamebrain, easy money
pronography. Sinning to me is really hurting people by squeezing money
from those that don't have it to buy yourself anything you wish.
Sinning is locking the children out of the teaching. Sinning is
feathering your own nest while thousands go without the basics under
your nose in the neighborhood. . Sooner or later God extracts his
justice - how about your butt rotting off before your very eyes....now
that's what I call punishment!
"Re-joyce!"? Sorry, I can't. My names not Joyce in the first place.
.
Seems ole lack-of-sphincter-control-sarah is rattled trying to come up
with the 1M pledge before 8/14 (doc's b'day). Planet scott flying
monkeys always drop a load here when they don't know where else to go.
Hey, losc-sarah, check out the CashCall loan shark link provided by
your fellow flockmates, surely you can borrow for your 'gift'.
(thought: is flockmate a real word? hmmmm something to consider. Right
up there with re-joyce)
I think the top two sections are gone but it seems that the third group
are still there.
studio: Melissa is a fake, a phoney, running a scam on the good faith
of those who have been duped by her late husband's mind bending
techniques.
gypsie: somehow I think the actual dupees have left or are leaving.
Most of those still there are getting something else from the show.
i'll try this AGAIN:
i am not a scott-bot,
not a flying monkey,
not a scottie.
not a mole.
not involved w/ the 1M pledge.
oh...and i'm not melissa either...
what else?....is there anything else?
i'm just your little "sphincter" who didn't want to have to come out
and tell you that...(are you sitting down?)....yes, gypsie girl...you
CAN be wrong at times....like neow.
i'm sorry to have to be the one to break it to you...but geez! you're
like this kid wanting attention big time that won't stop getting
underfoot! i can't figure out if you need a swat or a hug sometimes.
now, calm yourself and go watch some cartoons 'til i figure out what in
the world i'm gonna do with you, child!
here, have a carrot, it's good for you...and remember, it's not that i
don't love you, it's just that i think we need a little time-out from
eachother 'til this thing blows over....k?
...and please, stop yelling....you spit when you yell...and that's NOT
attractive at all..
and that cussing...hhmmm....we're gonna have to do something about
that. i think you might have to write your favorite cuss word over and
over a thousand times, and THEN pronounce it every, single, solitary
way possible until you're so sick of it you won't wanna say it any
more. let's start with "shit"...you like that one.
i tried to let you keep your dignity- like a little poodle at the junk
yard- and let you protect your territory....but i'm sorry, your yapping
is driving me nuts!!
ok...i'll give you a choice...first do your writing assignment, THEN
you can have your carrot and watch cartoons..... but remember, it's
not that i don't love you. you'll thank me for this one day... i know
you don't believe me neow...but you will.
go on neow, be a good girl ...and take it like a man. xo
gypsi...@gmail.com wrote:
Emmett writes:
Darn it gypsie I think you are right.
Any idea what they are getting other than a royal screwing???
>
Keep flapping your wings in protest. You post like a self righteous
bible thumping scott lifer. Even yell (ALL CAPS). You are also unable
to post a response without preaching a diatribe = scottie with lack of
ability to focus and a load of shit to dump somewhere. ...... if it
walks like a duck et al, it looks like a flying monkey = scottie. I've
never met a scottie who knew how to be civil. Why not prove me wrong
and come off your high horse?
No, you are not a sphincter that implies self control (you claimed this
for yourself, interesting self image), you lack enough self control to
post in simple posts or respond in same. Go back and read your posts
and you will see what I mean (you can read can't you?)
Emmett: Darn it gypsie I think you are right.
Any idea what they are getting other than a royal screwing???
gypsie: just a guess, but I think they are looking to be on 'top' and
be able to have their own (individual) little ministries (errrr
hierarchies) to rule and abuse in the name (of Jesus of course).
They've stayed and endured for years and it seems to me that they may
feel it is their time, most that are left are closet abusers. missy
can't, won't or does not want to try to control this inner core. She
has proven this by putting Steve back on stage.
Besides who else but this bunch left will 'teach' the newbies the
ropes? missy won't.
It may sound cold but, this why I totally approve of missy leaning hard
on this bunch to pay up their pledges early. What do you think?
gypsi...@gmail.com wrote:
> Emmett wrote:
>
> snip
>>>
>>>gypsie: somehow I think the actual dupees have left or are leaving.
>>>Most of those still there are getting something else from the show.
>>
>>Emmett writes:
>>Darn it gypsie I think you are right.
>>Any idea what they are getting other than a royal screwing???
>
> gypsie: just a guess, but I think they are looking to be on 'top' and
> be able to have their own (individual) little ministries (errrr
> hierarchies) to rule and abuse in the name (of Jesus of course).
> They've stayed and endured for years and it seems to me that they may
> feel it is their time, most that are left are closet abusers. missy
> can't, won't or does not want to try to control this inner core. She
> has proven this by putting Steve back on stage.
>
> Besides who else but this bunch left will 'teach' the newbies the
> ropes? missy won't.
>
> It may sound cold but, this why I totally approve of missy leaning hard
> on this bunch to pay up their pledges early. What do you think?
>
Emmett writes:
I don't know. When they look around they have to be running scared.
Big budget, no money coming in and fewer people than ever. Even the
most hard core have to be questioning themselves. I think that the
higher ups stand to come out of this with some money from Dr. jean's
estate. Maybe they already have and that is why they are still there.
The congregation is just being led down the old dusty trail. I think
the higher ups are just playing an end game and then will pack up and
go home when all the money is expended. Whenever that will be.
They have to see the hand writing on the wall.
Emmett, I have gone in as a VOF in the last few months and if you could
see how people are cutting out their own territories there, it is
scary. Steve Stone is just an example of the prevailing spirit there
neow. Nah, I don't believe the higher ups will receive much from doc's
estate (except what they have and are neow receiving), missy is not
that generous and doc certainly was not (missy and the higher ups need
each other and they know it). The higher ups will stay on this ship
until it sinks and I just don't believe that the congregation is much
different (the lifers will stay no matter what cuz they have too much
invested in their own egos), they all have their own agendas and it
ain't for the love of God, believe me.
I am not referring to newbies that are getting caught up this in but,
the crowd that have been there for years. I would hope that the
listening audience can see how transparent missy is in her con game.
Nobody trust anyone else. Paranoia +++
Do you have personal reasons for still being a VOF?
Just keeping my eye on things up close and personal at times.
gypsi...@gmail.com wrote:
> Emmett wrote:
snip
>>Emmett writes:
Emmett writes:
You should have said that you had inside info. and I wouldn't have
questioned anything. But what territory is left or will be left??
I assume a small group to keep the teachins on the internet and
to keep up 1 of the properties???
other than that what territory could it be??? Maybe they still
have some grandiose dreams????
gypsi...@gmail.com wrote:
Emmett writes:
I can understand the curiosity. I have never been involved
there but am curious as hell to what is going on.
The great Mystery
Although, I don't think I could ever do that.
Go back, that is.
Things would have to radically change.
Even though while typing this I remember me posting here about how some of
us should crusade
our way back to LAUC and, and, and..........
What?
studio, I am not crusading or doing much to support. Just answering
phones once every few months. To my mind I am not really involved and
do my best to not get hooked into anything. I find that I really
cannot stand to do it any more often than I am. I like to stick my head
in and say hey and get caught up (if I can). I still have friends
there.
Emmett, I don't red flag myself often especially with the goings on
neow and I don't go alot. Yah, grandiose ideas. They are like Joe
Cortes thinking they will carve up a bit of the flock to themselves and
pull the same stuff doc and missy did. It is all about $$$$ and their
turn at bat. Some are not looking for missy to last long term and
others feel she will cut and run when the time is right. This crowd
knows what is going on and really don't have any illusions re her. They
are just biding their time and posturing for position. Same stuff that
went on with doc. The biggest problem is that newbies come but don't
return or volunteer/VOF. If you notice on live time, it is always the
same people. Rather like the Dead Sea, no inflow of new blood (like
jocko said)
BTW, I seriously doubt that the payoff for secret 1M is more than the
cost of a new winnebago or so. The only ones who can be strong armed
are the ones who are there alot and that is down to 1/150-200.
It's when they stray from God's word to Scott's word that the
heresy begins.
Like doc said you can lay a crooked stick down next to a straight stick
and tell the difference. Gene and Melissa Scott are two
crooked sticks in the wood pile but they try to disguise themselves by
calling other sticks more crooked.
Since there are no members, the only way that would happen is by the
generosity and kindness of Pastor Melissa Scott's heart.
We've seen the black hole that inhabits her heart where generosity
is usually seated.
If that's true then little loser men can be someone as a
part of something seemingly important. on planet Scott.
That has to be a strong draw to stay.
The occasional new VOF is just as likely to be an IRS agent
or other infiltrator as a new supporter, according to several
insider posts here. They won't be giving large amounts of
time and money for very long. Tithing is the ticket to
gettin on television to appear very important.
Methinks sarah's a man, trying to appear controlled and
balanced, but too transparent in admitting some glaring
shortcomings of Gene and Melissa.
I am not referring to newbies that are getting caught up this in but,
the crowd that have been there for years. I would hope that the
listening audience can see how transparent missy is in her con game.
Nobody trust anyone else. Paranoia +++
Obrien wrote:
Some of the "higher-ups" have a vested interest in Camp PMS. The day will
come when PMS will force them to cash-out and give it all to PMS inorder to
save the ministry. Those "higher-ups" were put into their positions so as
to create loyalty through dependency--which can quickly be taken away by
PMS, as she is the highest "higher-up" within the Camp PMS matriarchy.
Women like PMS do not part with their money, nor do they share it. If any
"higher-ups" at Camp PMS thinks that they are going to receive any money at
all after PMS's exit strategy plays out to its conclusion, they are gravely
mistaken. Especially if they didn't immediately give her more than $10K
for secret M1. The only one's that will receive money from PMS are her
attorneys, victims that have filed lawsuits, and various government
entities. PMS's actions have demonstrated that it has never been her
intention to keep this ministry going long-term post Dawkter Scowt's
death. I'm sure PMS enjoys the tax exempt status and she gave it a
half-a$$ed effort to try and keep it going for a little longer inorder to
bilk her minions out of as much money as possible while secretly
liquidating church assets and hiding the cash money off-shore for her
personal warchest.
Question to PMS's staff; Dean and Reginald: Does PMS fly out of the
country often during her extended absences from on-air time slots?
If the past is an indicator of the future, history has shown that when a
"cult" is disbanded and forced into insolvency, the cult leader spends the
next ten years or so of their life tied up in court paying out lawsuits
from civil liabilities to former minions--along with a cornucopia of legal
troubles. Examples: Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh, Rev. Ike, The Bakkers,
Moonies, etc.
Good, a clarification: Emmett what do you mean by higher ups?
My meaning is those close in to missy like Reggie, Dean, etc. rpbc,
Absolutely, this is what I said, all of these are there at the largesse
of missy and she is not about to give them anything more than she has
to (like transport and breakfast while a roadie). All the congregation
is there to serve missy's needs and wants. As doc said the purpose of
her church is to GIVE.
rpbc wrote: That is exactly how that society is structured, and how it
will play out. Missy didn't set it up though, Gene Scott did, it is a
structure she inherited from him, and her quickness to grasp it is what
Scott referred to when he said, she is the only one that ever got it. And
she did, she got that part, and faked the rest... looking after his
teaching, etc. She came to complete agreement with one end of his split
personality, and played the other. Many have tried to that thru the
years, she was successful.
rpbc wrote: Ten four good buddy. Roger and out.
Emmett writes:
It would be interesting if all the staff got together and claimed that
Dr. jean promised them $50,000.00 each if they would stay 2 years or so
after his death. I'll bet they could win the suit.
By the way, how many staff members are there?????
How many staff members are paid???
Do they all get paid $500.00 per week????
Yeah right Emmett. Care to share whatever it is you are smoking? :)
Emmett writes:
Not smokin, just daydreaming.
>
Can you give us a rough idea on what the head count among the survivors is?
<gypsi...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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BB: Do they have any idea that you are the Gypsie of AFGS?
gypsie: you post this like it is supposed to mean something (Gypsie of
AFGS is nothing). In answer to your question..... what do you think??
Obrien wrote:
How any Scottobite can think that a washed-up web-toed porno star can lead
them to a spot inside heaven's gate--is beyond me.
Any numbers on current headcount?
<gypsi...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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UPDATED
Pastor Melissa Scott, born in Italy on April 10, 1968 is an immigrant,
recent American citizen and Protestant who inherited her current
ministry from her late husband Dr. Eugene Scott whom she married in the
year 2000 as announced by Dr. and Mrs. Scott on their live church
service broadcast.
Mrs. Scott has said that she was raised Catholic, a faith which she
questioned before abandoning after hearing Dr. Scott's "Resurrection
message." She has also stated that she became a couple with Dr. Scott
in 1994 and that she learned a great deal from him before he ordained
her as a minister. She has no other theological or higher education and
has not been on the staff of any other church. Mrs. Gene Scott
announced her United States citizenship on her live broadcast in
September 2005. Pastor Scott continues to teach every Sunday at the Los
Angeles University Cathedral on Broadway, in Los Angeles, California.
She also has instituted a program, new to her late husband's ministry,
of conducting services from remote locations, specifically Berkeley,
California.
Mrs. Scott has attempted an outreach of the ministry, conducting
services at San Quentin prison and at the church's mausoleum near
Berkeley, in Northern California. To facilitate her idea of a traveling
ministry, Pastor Scott purchased a Winnebago motor home in 2006 and now
is able to broadcast from an eqipped van wherever her ministry travels.
According to an article in the Los Angeles Times in early 2006, the
managing lawyer in her attorney's firm was indicted on charges of
hiring illegal wire taps to gain advantage in civil litigation.
According to the Costa Mesa Police Department, Pastor Melissa Scott's
drummer
Steve Stone, was handcuffed and arrested on charges of assault and
battery upon his
brother. Both men are facing trial on their respective criminal
charges, the dates for which
have not been set. Both men stand to serve sentences that include
incarceration, if found
guilty of criminal conduct.
Maybe she knows that each man has confessed
and admitted guilt with a plea deal to be
announced. Melissa would not want to go out
on a limb to have the subjects of her
defense roll over and admit guilt as charged.
PG: If she believed in the innocence of her two associates
gypsie: Steve has been bragging about it and she has approved it in
private and publicly by putting him back on stage. If it were
otherwise, she would have acted immediately upon receiving the news!