Public retraction and apology
Catching colds
It occured to me today, with the help of a few friends, that perhaps
some of us, and in particular myself, have been barking up the wrong
tree, if you'll pardon the expression.
Upon mentally reviewing all the posts on what Furry supposedly is and
is not, I came to the conclusion that perhaps Xydexx and the like are
right, and it is whatever they want it to be.
My problem was that I didn't share their veiw, or many of their
interests. The only overlapping quality was an interest in funny
animals, which it turns out is what I'm a fan of.
So I'm going to publically apologize to everyone here. There's
nothing wrong with Furry Fandom. It's just the way you want it to be,
and I guess, that's the way it should be. I'm not about to dictate to
anyone what they want to participate in or believe, and if you ever got
that impression from me, then I'm sorry. It wasn't intentional.
I'm a funny animal and anthro fan, as are the associates I'm currently
dealing with. We want to get together and form something that we all
would personally like to see, independent of Furry, or it's fandom. You
all of course, are free to spectate, praise or criticize.
In particular I'm sorry to Xydexx, Vixy and Mark, who even though he
wasn't here in this newsgroup, I criticized nonetheless and I shouldn't
have. It's your fandom, and you all have the right to make it whatever
you want. That's what we're intending to do with our own.
RebelSqurl
In article <minbarEq...@netcom.com>, min...@netcom.com (Catching colds)
writes:
> I'm a funny animal and anthro fan, as are the associates I'm currently
>dealing with. We want to get together and form something that we all
>would personally like to see, independent of Furry, or it's fandom. You
>all of course, are free to spectate, praise or criticize.
>
> In particular I'm sorry to Xydexx, Vixy and Mark, who even though he
>wasn't here in this newsgroup, I criticized nonetheless and I shouldn't
>have. It's your fandom, and you all have the right to make it whatever
>you want. That's what we're intending to do with our own.
I, for one, accept your apology in the spirit it was offered. However, I hope
you won't let recent events mislead you. As others have pointed out, only a
small fraction of furry fans read or post to a.f.f., and the people you have
mentioned by name should not be considered to speak for all of us. There is no
such spokesman or arbiter who can do that.
"Furry Fandom" is simply a label that indicates our common interest in the very
same things you say you like -- funny animals and anthropomorphics. That label
covers a broad spectrum of artistic topics and tastes, just as the labels
"Science Fiction" and "Fantasy" do, and it does not mean -- as you are
suggesting in the paragraphs quoted above -- that we have to splinter apart
into specific sub-fandoms just because of differences of opinion or taste.
It's not that Furry Fandom is perfect as it is; it's not. But what's wrong
with it can be better corrected with a little decorum, decency, and common
sense on the part of all concerned, rather than venting our spleens at each
other here on Usenet.
So I invite you to stick around. Furry Fandom really does have more to offer
than flamewars. Believe it or not, it contains some of the nicest and
friendliest people I've ever met or known. If you get a chance to meet some of
us in person, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. :)
-- Jeff "REB" Pierce
(who just *had* to get that off his chestfur, and who hopes we can all finally
put this topic to rest for a few months...)
Catching colds
RebelSqurl (rebel...@aol.com) wrote:
: In article <minbarEq...@netcom.com>, min...@netcom.com (Catching colds)
: writes:
: > I'm a funny animal and anthro fan, as are the associates I'm currently
: >dealing with. We want to get together and form something that we all
: >would personally like to see, independent of Furry, or it's fandom. You
: >all of course, are free to spectate, praise or criticize.
: >
: > In particular I'm sorry to Xydexx, Vixy and Mark, who even though he
: >wasn't here in this newsgroup, I criticized nonetheless and I shouldn't
: >have. It's your fandom, and you all have the right to make it whatever
: >you want. That's what we're intending to do with our own.
: I, for one, accept your apology in the spirit it was offered.
: However, I hope you won't let recent events mislead you. As others
: have pointed out, only a small fraction of furry fans read or post to
: a.f.f., and the people you have mentioned by name should not be
: considered to speak for all of us. There is no such spokesman or
: arbiter who can do that.
Thank you for that. I'm pretty sure though that their sentiments are
echoed throughout the fandom, namely that they like things they way they
are, and that's perfectly alright. It's not really what I want, or what
the people who've e-mailed me want, though, so a parting of the ways is
definately a viable solution.
: "Furry Fandom" is simply a label that indicates our common interest in
: the very same things you say you like -- funny animals and
: anthropomorphics. That label covers a broad spectrum of artistic
: topics and tastes, just as the labels "Science Fiction" and "Fantasy"
: do, and it does not mean -- as you are suggesting in the paragraphs
: quoted above -- that we have to splinter apart into specific
: sub-fandoms just because of differences of opinion or taste. It's not
It's a lot more than that. I don't feel the need to identify with
some sort of animal, nor do I particularly enjoy such an emphasized
connection between funny animals and fetishes and things like that.
Again if that's what you want, that's fine. That is the general
perception of what 'Furry' is all about, and it's not what I or some
other people want. So I kind of think trying to keep two such camps
together is only going cause more troubles than it's worth, which the
occasional barrage of flamewars here in this newsgroup illustrates.
: that Furry Fandom is perfect as it is; it's not. But what's wrong with
: it can be better corrected with a little decorum, decency, and common
: sense on the part of all concerned, rather than venting our spleens at each
: other here on Usenet.
Well, there's usually a time when the house gets too small for the
people inside it, and so some of them have to move out and find a place
of their own. I think that's what's happening here.
: So I invite you to stick around. Furry Fandom really does have more
: to offer than flamewars. Believe it or not, it contains some of the
: nicest and friendliest people I've ever met or known. If you get a
: chance to meet some of us in person, I think you'll be pleasantly
: surprised. :)
I've have plenty of opportunity to meet a number of you in person. I
have a number of friends I've met thanks to this fandom, and I do not
bear any of them any ill will, make no mistakes. But this fandom is not
for me, and unless you all are willing to make some serious changes I
doubt it ever will be. It's wrong to ask you to make such changes
though, and a lot easier to start something of my own. I really hope you
understand.
Karl Meyer
Catching colds <min...@netcom.com> wrote:
: In particular I'm sorry to Xydexx, Vixy and Mark, who even though he
: wasn't here in this newsgroup, I criticized nonetheless and I shouldn't
: have. It's your fandom, and you all have the right to make it whatever
: you want. That's what we're intending to do with our own.
I believe Xydexx was saying all along that furry fandom was about
anthropomorphic animals which seems to be what you're a fan of also.
Looks like you're both on the same side.
Catching colds
Karl Meyer (fer...@enteract.com) wrote:
Well, he may have said that, but his actions do not. Certainly not
the opinions of Vixy or a number of other people who frequent this
newsgroup. But hey, if they want something that's all about cute furry
critters and pretending to be them and oogling at dirty little pinups,
more power to them. There is absolutely nothing wrong with wanting
something like that. There's also nothing wrong with not wanting
something like that, and wanting something a little more uhm, I guess
basic is the word I'm looking for. Funny animals in art and cartoons and
stuff like that. None of this wink wink nudge nudge say no more.
Certainly not seeing your favorite copyright infringement of the day in a
leather teddy and getting it in the end, so to speak.
Karl Meyer
Catching colds <min...@netcom.com> wrote:
: something like that. There's also nothing wrong with not wanting
: basic is the word I'm looking for. Funny animals in art and cartoons and
: stuff like that.
Nothing wrong at all. I think you'll find any number of newsgroups devoted
to various cartoons. I've been trying to find if there is one devoted to
collecting animation art since I collect cells. Most of those being of
furry characters.
Xydexx Squeakypony
Catching colds wrote:
> Karl Meyer (fer...@enteract.com) wrote:
> : I believe Xydexx was saying all along that furry fandom was about
> : anthropomorphic animals which seems to be what you're a fan of also.
> : Looks like you're both on the same side.
>
> Well, he may have said that, but his actions do not.
I don't know what actions you're referring to, but it seems obvious you
don't give a rat's patoot about funny animals, because if you did you
wouldn't be attacking people who support funny animals. Seems logical
to me, at least. I think you are just too caught up in making snipes
and trolling that the fact that I purchase G-rated furry art has eluded
you --- as has the fact that I don't do anything in public that would
offend my grandmother.
Regardless, your agenda-driven attempt to portray me as holding
positions I do not hold has been duly noted, and I am therefore taking
your blatantly insincere apology with the barrel of salt it warrants.
Your welcome.
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Coyote
Xydexx Squeakypony (xyd...@smart.netnot.aol.com) wrote:
: I don't know what actions you're referring to, but it seems obvious you
: don't give a rat's patoot about funny animals, because if you did you
: wouldn't be attacking people who support funny animals. Seems logical
: to me, at least. I think you are just too caught up in making snipes
: and trolling that the fact that I purchase G-rated furry art has eluded
: you --- as has the fact that I don't do anything in public that would
: offend my grandmother.
: Regardless, your agenda-driven attempt to portray me as holding
: positions I do not hold has been duly noted, and I am therefore taking
: your blatantly insincere apology with the barrel of salt it warrants.
Hey kids! It's time to play what's eating Xydexx now? What can like,
possibly be driving him to such insanity as he yet again nails himself to
a cross? Let's take a look, yeah? Yeah! =)
A> Xydexx has a chip on his shoulder.
B> Xydexx likes to take his grandmother to Confurence and show her all
the nice needlepoint of ponies. Awww, that's sweet.
C> Xydexx has a /really/ big chip on his shoulder.
D> Xydexx is secretly working for the nazi proletariat on a mission to
round up all the spoogemonkeys in furry fandom to do away with them all
and therefore has to publically denounce CC or else blow his cover.
E> Xydexx and CC are actually the same person on different accounts
and he just likes to really argue with himself and cause trouble. /Or/
they're the same person but he's trying to undermine the newsgroup in
the same glorious fashion as alt.syntax.tactical.
F> None of the above.
G> All of the above.
Thank you.
: Your welcome.
No problem. :)
(Disclaimer: Of course everybody here has an agenda. Duh! Like, you
don't want your best interests served? Some people seem to have a
problem with anyone who thinks differently than they do. Geez, get over
it! Besides, I know Xydexx only reads Playboy for the articles. :)
(Disclaimer: Thanks to that banana ear guy for the inspiration for
this post. :)
Xydexx Squeakypony
o/~ "I see the bad moon rising,
I see the trouble on the way." o/~
Coyote wrote:
> Hey kids! It's time to play what's eating Xydexx now?
(OTOH, Xydexx might be understandably miffed at someone who posts
apologies one minute and then follows it up with more little snipes at
him the next.[1])
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[1] ...and then has the audacity to run off to a.f.f.b and
curry sympathy for how their insincere apology fell on
deaf ears...[2]
[2] What's that? You say I'm being nasty and cynical?
Well, good, maybe I need to be. Maybe I'll be so
nasty and cynical I'll make Eric Blumrich look like
the fucking tooth fairy, okay?[3]
[3] o/~ "I see earthquakes and lightning,
I see bad times today." o/~
Farlo the fey dragon
Xydexx Squeakypony did speaketh thus:
>Coyote wrote:
>> Hey kids! It's time to play what's eating Xydexx now?
Two-legged fleas with internet access?
>
>[2] What's that? You say I'm being nasty and cynical?
> Well, good, maybe I need to be.
"Don't let the bastards get you down" - a fav sentiment of mine.
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Coyote (coy...@leopard.velox.com) wrote:
: (Disclaimer: Thanks to that banana ear guy for the inspiration for
: this post. :)
Now I feel truly famous.
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Farlo the fey dragon wrote:
> Two-legged fleas with internet access?
Yeah, something like that, I suspect.
> "Don't let the bastards get you down" - a fav sentiment of mine.
True enough. It's 24 hours later and I'm happily eating a bowl of Edy's
cherry chocolate chip ice cream and drinking more of that yummy
Celestial Seasonings chamomile tea. Happy squeaky pony.
Dan Pankratz
In article <352AF1...@smart.netnot.aol.com>, Xydexx Squeakypony <xyd...@smart.netnot.aol.com> writes:
> True enough. It's 24 hours later and I'm happily eating a bowl of Edy's
> cherry chocolate chip ice cream and drinking more of that yummy
> Celestial Seasonings chamomile tea. Happy squeaky pony.
What's the Noid having? :D
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Xydexx Squeakypony
Dan Pankratz wrote:
>Xydexx Squeakypony writes:
> > True enough. It's 24 hours later and I'm happily eating a bowl of Edy's
> > cherry chocolate chip ice cream and drinking more of that yummy
> > Celestial Seasonings chamomile tea. Happy squeaky pony.
>
> What's the Noid having? :D
The Noid? Which Noid?[1] O-:) <uni grin with halo>
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[1] Certainly you don't mean to imply that -I- was somehow
involved when that 15-foot Noid balloon was stolen off
the roof of Domino's Pizza so many years ago. Really,
I don't know anything about it. Nope nope nope. Not a
thing. Ididn'tdoit,nobodysawmedoit,can'tproveanything.
Dan Pankratz
In article <352C01...@smart.netnot.aol.com>, Xydexx Squeakypony <xyd...@smart.netnot.aol.com> writes:
> > What's the Noid having? :D
>
> The Noid? Which Noid?[1] O-:) <uni grin with halo>
I want the GIF, sweetheart. You have my email. :)
Xydexx Squeakypony
Dan Pankratz wrote:
> I want the GIF, sweetheart. You have my email. :)
Hmmmm... okay... that can be arranged... -:)
Maybe I'll put it on the now-defunct Anthrofurry page while I'm at it.
Heh heh heh...
Ravin' Squeakypony
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Coyote wrote:
> Hey kids! It's time to play what's eating Xydexx now?
Ooh, vorarephilia. What's eating me? A big wolfy, prolly. I'm
everyone's favorite chew-toy.
> What can like, possibly be driving him to such insanity as he
> yet again nails himself to a cross?
I don't need to, I've got plenty of other folks to do that for me. -:P
> D> Xydexx is secretly working for the nazi proletariat on a mission to
> round up all the spoogemonkeys in furry fandom to do away with them all
> and therefore has to publically denounce CC or else blow his cover.
Nah, that's CC's job. I was just sitting here minding my own business.
> E> Xydexx and CC are actually the same person on different accounts
> and he just likes to really argue with himself and cause trouble.
I think CC just gets too easily upset at G-rated inflatable reindeer,
and is also afraid of cows. I think CC should quit flaming people who
happen to like G-rated inflatable reindeer. I also think CC should get
multiple nose piercings, drink holographic eggnog, and wear pants twice
the size of Nate Patrin's. Then maybe I'd be impressed. Right now, I
ain't.
> Besides, I know Xydexx only reads Playboy for the articles. :)
Guilty, as charged. (But also note I haven't read an issue of Playboy
in over a decade..)
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