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PlanetFur

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Nov 25, 2003, 11:02:46 PM11/25/03
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Kathmandu

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Nov 26, 2003, 12:21:20 AM11/26/03
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"PlanetFur" <nos...@nospam.planetfur.com> wrote in message
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> http://www.furbid.ws/cgi-bin/auction.pl?commission_adultfur&1070251211
>
> Good luck!
>

Heh, good luck to you my friend. With that point system, any story with
anything other than a vanilla sex scene will cost more than what most
national magazines pay for their story submissions. Furry fiction is
probably the least appreciated avocation there is, period. I *wish* there
was that kind of money in writing...

I hope you prove me wrong.


PlanetFur

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Nov 26, 2003, 12:38:06 AM11/26/03
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> Heh, good luck to you my friend. With that point system, any story with
> anything other than a vanilla sex scene will cost more than what most
> national magazines pay for their story submissions. Furry fiction is
> probably the least appreciated avocation there is, period. I *wish* there
> was that kind of money in writing...
>
> I hope you prove me wrong.

Highest commission I got before being published was $300.

So $200+ isn't too farfetched, especially since it could be done for
a holiday gift if so desired. (:

I do hope to prove you wrong. Only the economy and people's
interest will tell.


FuzzWolf

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Nov 26, 2003, 4:53:56 PM11/26/03
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"Kathmandu" <kath...@cableone.com> wrote in message
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If it works, I'll probably kick myself for not thinking of it sooner. :-)

It'd be nice if furry stories were valued as much, but written art isn't
nearly as appreciated in this fandom as visual art is, yiffy or otherwise.

Fuzzy
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My space on Furry Pleasures: http://www.yiff.nu/FuzzWolf/
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Also available on www.YiffStar.com and www.FurrySmut.com
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incomplete to me without three minutes of howling." - Warren Zevon


FuzzWolf

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Nov 26, 2003, 5:15:05 PM11/26/03
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"Kathmandu" <kath...@cableone.com> wrote in message
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> Heh, good luck to you my friend. With that point system, any story with


> anything other than a vanilla sex scene will cost more than what most
> national magazines pay for their story submissions. Furry fiction is
> probably the least appreciated avocation there is, period. I *wish* there
> was that kind of money in writing...

Holy hell, I hadn't even read the point system part yet when I replied to
this. At a rough guess, a 10 page, 2 character, plotless, same-sex yiff
story would cost $600. Now, I know visual art and written work have
different standards, but just to use a couple of examples, I paid $175 for
an oil painting of my character by Rog Minotaur, tasteful nude.

One of Wookiee's commissions has gone for about $600, same with BearClaw,
but those are probably the only artist's I can think of that have been paid
that much for a commission.

And why does a same-sex scene cost more than a regular scene? It amazes me
that most people seem to think straight people screwing is just sex, but gay
people doing it makes it "hard core". Minus any kinks in either case, it's
still just sex so why the extra charge for being gay?

Fuzzy


PlanetFur

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Nov 26, 2003, 5:24:06 PM11/26/03
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FuzzWolf wrote:

> And why does a same-sex scene cost more than a regular scene? It amazes me
> that most people seem to think straight people screwing is just sex, but gay
> people doing it makes it "hard core". Minus any kinks in either case, it's
> still just sex so why the extra charge for being gay?
>
> Fuzzy

See, here's where that logic fails. I don't think that gay people
bumping ugly is hard core. But for me, I'm straight, and that's what I
enjoy. I do not enjoy reading gay sex myself, and that's my personal
choice. So anything that normally I do not enjoy reading myself, I
would not like writing myself. To make me write it, it will cost more
than normal.

Same with scat, piss, etc. Just really far from my cup of tea. To get
a second character, there's just a bit more writing to get that
character more lifelike. I write to make a story that allows the reader
to think and be involved; I don't pitch out plotless, lifeless tales
that no one will remember.

The extra high charges are for things which would cause that, and not
normally what I would do. But if you have a character who wants to
explore with a dildo, or maybe something that has NOTHING to do with sex
at all (don't forget, you don't HAVE to have a sex scene in the story),
feel free to bid the minimum and get a great tale. If you want
something beyond that, it'll simply cost more.

And that's my logic. (:

iBuck

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Nov 27, 2003, 12:55:20 AM11/27/03
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>With that point system, any story with
>anything other than a vanilla sex scene will cost more than what most
>national magazines pay for their story submissions.

You say that like a story -needs- some thing more than a vanilla sex scene to
be good...

I have any number of good books that don't even have a vanilla sex scene..


"You can have it Quickly,Correct, Complex - Pick 2"

BR

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Nov 27, 2003, 2:12:56 AM11/27/03
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On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 05:55:20 +0000, iBuck wrote:

> I have any number of good books that don't even have a vanilla sex
> scene..

Chocolate.


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knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.

Allen Kitchen

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Nov 27, 2003, 2:32:10 PM11/27/03
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>
> "You can have it Quickly,Correct, Complex - Pick 2"

You have been saying this and saying this. The correct saying is:
"You have have Quick, you can have it Right, or you can have it
Cheap - pick any two." You can have it quick and cheap, but it won't
be right. You can have it right and cheap, but it won't be quick.
You can also have it quick and right, but buddy, it'll cost ya!

There's a variant that started in England some years back, replacing
the word Cheap with the word Simple. But as it is your version would
make me say "I'll have it quick and correct, but not complex" which
just isn't what the mantra originally meant at all.

Shockwave

iBuck

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Nov 27, 2003, 3:36:24 PM11/27/03
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>The correct saying is:
>"You have have Quick, you can have it Right, or you can have it
>Cheap - pick any two."

As far as I care, there's no such thing as a 'correct' version of the saying...
Nobody uses really "Godwin's Law", or "Information wants to be free"
correctly, I don't see a need to us a particular fomat..

I ran into a version of it in one of the 'X-Wing' novels, and then came up
with the variation I use, from my own experinces at work, where cost wasn't a
factor, but the complexity of the what I was being asked to do was. because I
was being paid a given rate, but I had to explain my limitations over, and over
and over again... the specific wording I use is simply a matter of keeping it
short and simple and alleratitive...

Kathmandu

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Nov 30, 2003, 9:39:23 PM11/30/03
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"iBuck" <lncra...@aol.com.star> wrote in message
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> >With that point system, any story with
> >anything other than a vanilla sex scene will cost more than what most
> >national magazines pay for their story submissions.
>
> You say that like a story -needs- some thing more than a vanilla sex
scene to
> be good...
>
> I have any number of good books that don't even have a vanilla sex
scene..

That isn't what I meant at all. What I meant was that anything *more* than
a vanilla sex scene would be really really expensive. I didn't mean it
necessarily had to have a sex scene to be good in any way. Then again $75
for a story without sex is probably high too but that is my opinion only.

On the other hand it would take "a great deal of money"(TM) for me to even
consider writing a commission story so it may be a bargain. :)


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