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Brian W. Antoine

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May 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/16/97
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Tobias Koehler (t...@urz.tu-dresden.de) wrote:
: servers. furry.isc-br.com has a good amount of great art, but no
: `new' directory, so it's kinda hard to check what's new. but for

This has been mentioned to me by others a couple of times, and I
still have the same basic question I need answered. If I'm sorting
by artist name instead of filename, how to I even create a 'new' area?

Just lump the pictures together in a directory called 'New' without
regard for the artist name? That means that artwork without a clear
signature can't be associated with the artist, which was the whole
reason I didn't use the filename method avatar uses.

Suggestions?

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Gordon McVey

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May 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/17/97
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In article <EAAr7...@tau-ceti.isc-br.com>,

bri...@tau-ceti.isc-br.com (Brian W. Antoine) wrote:
>: servers. furry.isc-br.com has a good amount of great art, but no
>: `new' directory, so it's kinda hard to check what's new. but for
>
> This has been mentioned to me by others a couple of times, and I
>still have the same basic question I need answered. If I'm sorting
>by artist name instead of filename, how to I even create a 'new' area?

How about by making a copy of the new images on your site to a "new" directory
as well as to their respective directories? Then have a script to delete
files in the "new" directory that are 7 days (for example) old. This would
admittedly be a little extra work, though.


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Fuzzy Fox

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May 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/17/97
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db...@zhochaka.demon.co.uk ("David G. Bell") writes:

> So, how would you maintain the association between artist and picture?
> That's the problem, and the technical details of storing images in two
> places don't really solve that. Even if they only look to be in too
> places, how many ftp clients would show the true location?

How about creating a 'New' directory, and under that, a directory for
each artist, which has links to the new files from the respective
artist's directory. It would be more work on the browsing side, of
course, but worth it to preserve the artist's name.

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Brian W. Antoine

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May 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/17/97
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Fuzzy Fox (f...@fuzzy.org) wrote:
: How about creating a 'New' directory, and under that, a directory for

: each artist, which has links to the new files from the respective
: artist's directory. It would be more work on the browsing side, of
: course, but worth it to preserve the artist's name.

That would be about the only way to do it correctly, other then just
creating a file that listed the last N days worth of additions. The
file idea would require you to download and be reading it while you
used your client to retrieve each picture.

What I want to avoid is the following. Gorden-McVey (Hi) sends me
a new vixen picture, which goes into his directory.

/pub/Images/Gorden-McVey/Fluffy-Vixen.gif

Gordy was in a hurry though because Kandra (the vixen in question)
is going to vivisect him as soon as she sees the picture he did of her.
So, he doesn't sign his name clearly ...

If I just used the "new" directory like avatar, and either hard or
symlinked the picture from the artist directory to it, you'd get:

/pub/Images/New/Fluffy-Vixen.gif

Because his signature wasn't real clear, nobody would be able to
tell Kandra who she had to vivisect, because there wouldn't be a
clear link back to the artist directory. It gets even more fun if
picking on Kandra is the "hot" thing to do this week, and two artists
both created a "Fluffy-Vixen.gif" picture. The idea of creating a
structure like:

/pub/Images/New/Gordy-McVey/Fluffy-Vixen.gif

with a script that deleted things after about 10 days would be
technically doable, but it could get complex because some dirs
have sublevels for a series of pictures, stories, or animations.
It's an idea though, I'll kick it around some and see if any rust
shows up. :)

I'll also be waiting for Gordy and Kandra to come after me with
mayhem on their minds... (hides quickly) *grin*

Angela

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May 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/17/97
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Besides rat.org... are there other places that provide web space for
furry artists? Like furnation for example... how does one get space
there? I see no information on that on their web site, I feel like I'm
in the dark.
:) Angela
http://www.geocities.com/hollywood/2416/


Tobias Koehler wrote:
>
> i wonder which furry art servers most furries are checking
> regularly for new art? there used to be only avatar.snc.edu, but
> meanwhile there are quite a couple of newer, more comfortable


> servers. furry.isc-br.com has a good amount of great art, but no
> `new' directory, so it's kinda hard to check what's new. but for

> avatar and isc-br there's the index server at www.yiffco.com.
> rat.org is very user-friendly, with previews of all pictures and
> various sorting methods. i'm now following it regularly (it has
> a high amount of new art, often it's not enough to check `recent
> uploads' once per day!) less known, but also interesting, is
> nosmoj.ctrl-c.liu.se (sorted by artists, like isc-br, also no
> `new' directory). this is the server where i have my only artist
> directory (i've been lazy during the last months, so there is
> not much new). at last i'm spending some time on furry art
> again, but i'm still slow. well, now at least i have some
> picture i'm working on at all times. :) so i thought i would
> come out at more servers, to share my art at others - the ones
> that came to my mind are rat.org and furry.isc-br.com; are there
> any more that furries check regularly for new art?
> fluffsnuggles
> unci
> ps. please don't ask me right now to draw you, i still have
> about 15 on my list that i like to draw first ;)
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PeterCat

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May 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/18/97
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bri...@tau-ceti.isc-br.com (Brian W. Antoine) wrote:
>Fuzzy Fox (f...@fuzzy.org) wrote:
>: How about creating a 'New' directory, and under that, a directory for
>: each artist, which has links to the new files from the respective
>: artist's directory. It would be more work on the browsing side, of
>: course, but worth it to preserve the artist's name.
>
> That would be about the only way to do it correctly, other then just
>creating a file that listed the last N days worth of additions. The
>file idea would require you to download and be reading it while you
>used your client to retrieve each picture.

If you're limited to something in the FTP directories, and you're on a
server that can handle long filenames, how about for each image file
creating a zero-length text file starting with the name of the image (less
the extension)? E.g.:

/pub/Images/New/Fluffy-Vixen.by.Gorden-McVey
/pub/Images/New/Fluffy-Vixen.gif

These could be expired simply by file modification time.

Another possibility would be to use a perl script to generate a web index
page, unless you wanted to do that manually every time you archived a new
image, where the index page listed the image name, artist's name, and linked
to the image in the FTP directory. New entries would appear at the top, and
old entries would disappear from the bottom (or be moved to an "older
entries" file).

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Gordon McVey

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May 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/18/97
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In article <5lm3m8$q...@cyber2.servtech.com>,
pete...@furry.fan.org (PeterCat) wrote:

>Another possibility would be to use a perl script to generate a web index
>page, unless you wanted to do that manually every time you archived a new
>image, where the index page listed the image name, artist's name, and linked
>to the image in the FTP directory. New entries would appear at the top, and
>old entries would disappear from the bottom (or be moved to an "older
>entries" file).

You mean like the rat.org recent uploads and uploads by date pages?

Gordon McVey

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May 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/18/97
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In article <EACK9...@tau-ceti.isc-br.com>,

bri...@tau-ceti.isc-br.com (Brian W. Antoine) wrote:
>Fuzzy Fox (f...@fuzzy.org) wrote:

> What I want to avoid is the following. Gorden-McVey (Hi) sends me
>a new vixen picture, which goes into his directory.

>/pub/Images/Gorden-McVey/Fluffy-Vixen.gif

> Gordy was in a hurry though because Kandra (the vixen in question)
>is going to vivisect him as soon as she sees the picture he did of her.
>So, he doesn't sign his name clearly ...

Gordy? Am I being confused with silly squirrels now? Besides, if I did that,
I'd sign the picture with someone else's name, Kyrn's, for example. ;)

> I'll also be waiting for Gordy and Kandra to come after me with
>mayhem on their minds... (hides quickly) *grin*

Hmmm.... I understand from Bobby's recent picture that you have a thing for
lemon drops too? *evilgrin*

J. Simon

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May 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/18/97
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: > So, how would you maintain the association between artist and picture?
: > That's the problem, and the technical details of storing images in two
: > places don't really solve that. Even if they only look to be in too
: > places, how many ftp clients would show the true location?

: How about creating a 'New' directory, and under that, a directory for


: each artist, which has links to the new files from the respective
: artist's directory. It would be more work on the browsing side, of
: course, but worth it to preserve the artist's name.

That's an awful lot of work to do when the user can simply scan the
datestamps for hirself. That's how I use isc-br... I do a quick
directory listing and see which artist-directories have recent changes.

My recommendation would be to either have a New directory with
symbolic links and lose the artist information, or do nothing at
all and let the user do a little work. :)


- Lars

Sebastian F. Mix

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May 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/18/97
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db...@zhochaka.demon.co.uk ("David G. Bell") writes:

>In article <5lke90$429$1...@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
> cha...@cs.tu-berlin.de "Sebastian F. Mix" writes:

>> bri...@tau-ceti.isc-br.com (Brian W. Antoine) writes:
>>
>> >Tobias Koehler (t...@urz.tu-dresden.de) wrote:
>> >: servers. furry.isc-br.com has a good amount of great art, but no


>> >: `new' directory, so it's kinda hard to check what's new. but for
>>

>> > This has been mentioned to me by others a couple of times, and I
>> >still have the same basic question I need answered. If I'm sorting
>> >by artist name instead of filename, how to I even create a 'new' area?
>>

>> > Just lump the pictures together in a directory called 'New' without
>> >regard for the artist name? That means that artwork without a clear
>> >signature can't be associated with the artist, which was the whole
>> >reason I didn't use the filename method avatar uses.
>>
>> > Suggestions?
>>

>> Install the files in the "New" directory as softlinks to the actual files
>> in the artist's directory.

>So, how would you maintain the association between artist and picture?
>That's the problem, and the technical details of storing images in two
>places don't really solve that. Even if they only look to be in too
>places, how many ftp clients would show the true location?

A decent client will, in a long listing, show the softlinks to be such,
with the link's destination path necessarily containing the artist's
directory.

cu


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jenn...@toysrus.com

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May 19, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/19/97
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In article <EAAr7...@tau-ceti.isc-br.com>,

bri...@tau-ceti.isc-br.com (Brian W. Antoine) wrote:
>
> Tobias Koehler (t...@urz.tu-dresden.de) wrote:
> : servers. furry.isc-br.com has a good amount of great art, but no
> : `new' directory, so it's kinda hard to check what's new. but for
>
> This has been mentioned to me by others a couple of times, and I
> still have the same basic question I need answered. If I'm sorting
> by artist name instead of filename, how to I even create a 'new' area?
>
> Just lump the pictures together in a directory called 'New' without
> regard for the artist name? That means that artwork without a clear
> signature can't be associated with the artist, which was the whole
> reason I didn't use the filename method avatar uses.
>
> Suggestions?

Here's a silly one... can you add a flag for 'new' and just add an icon
next to the new picture within the artist's directory? Then you can do
routine sweeps on the bit and icon as they pass a certain length of
time...

(This from one who only knows the theories of programming, so bear with
me!)

ermine
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Brian W. Antoine

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jenn...@toysrus.com wrote:
: Here's a silly one... can you add a flag for 'new' and just add an icon

: next to the new picture within the artist's directory? Then you can do
: routine sweeps on the bit and icon as they pass a certain length of
: time...

That would only work if you used a web browser, and I'm not sure how
you'd change the icon on a picture by picture basis anyway.

What I'm doing for the moment is running a script once an hour that
creates a New directory with links to pictures that have arrived within
the last 7 days. I can't use symlinks, the dates are all the date the
symlink is made, not the date of the picture.

The script just uses 'find' and some options, to modify the name
will take a bit of programming. The current script should help abit
until I can get the time to write some code.

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