Well, the secret is out on ATOMIC MOUSE VS POWER JACK AND THE LOST MENAGERIE
Mike & Carole Curtis
Go down to the trivia section.
Of course for legal reasons I cannot confirm or deny this.
However, we are putting up one page of Ron Murphy pencils on the sfa site
this weekend, just not one with Power Jack and his team.
Mike
Joe Strike
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> Of course for legal reasons I cannot confirm or deny this.
>
Sounds a bit like More & Gibbons inventing new heroes inspired by the
Charlton characters they were originally going to use in Watchmen
Oliver
> Sounds a bit like More & Gibbons inventing new heroes inspired by the
> Charlton characters they were originally going to use in Watchmen.
Is it just me, or would 'Watchmen' have been better if DC had allowed
M&G to stick with this idea? (Captain Atom instead of Dr Manhattan,
Blue Beetle not Nite Owl, etc.) The post-modern, 'League of
Extraordinary Gentleman'-style appropriation and ennobling of pre-
existing characters could only have added to the work's depth -- as it
is, Miller's 'Dark Knight Returns' won out in that regard.
naorhyreply
<oaco...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>Is it just me, or would 'Watchmen' have been better if DC had allowed
>M&G to stick with this idea? (Captain Atom instead of Dr Manhattan,
>Blue Beetle not Nite Owl, etc.) The post-modern, 'League of
>Extraordinary Gentleman'-style appropriation and ennobling of pre-
>existing characters could only have added to the work's depth -- as it
>is, Miller's 'Dark Knight Returns' won out in that regard.
Donno, but I haven't heard anything I would consider 'new' coming out
of Marble of Deep Cee since the late '60's. Other than going Angst,
its same ol same ol as far as I see.
I've seen more character growth in MISFILE than I've seen from those
two companies in oh, forty-five years?
Pete Holland Jr.
> of Marble of Deep Cee since the late '60's. Other than going Angst,
> its same ol same ol as far as I see.
>
> I've seen more character growth in MISFILE than I've seen from those
> two companies in oh, forty-five years?
Are you talking the regular superheroes, or just the two houses in
general. The Sandman was absolutely epic, but that's purely Gaiman's
genius rather than anything DC came up with.
Personally speaking, I'll take the Flash stories "Return Of Barry
Allen" and "Terminal Velocity" by Mark Waid over anything being done
with Marvel's Secret Invasion or the current Crisis (Infinite Crisis,
indeed. It seems like these story ideas are NEVER going to stop).
Joe Strike
something like 'Watchmen') when I started getting that "I read this
story last year, only it was with a different hero" feeling.
It's funny though - For the most part I really enjoy the superhero
movies because they get back to the essence of the characters without
the last 20+ years' worth of barnacles they seem to collect these
days. (Ever read the superhero biographies on Wikipedia? How can
anyone take them seriously when they seem to go through some major
life-altering (ie, we gotta get the sales up) crisis every six
months?)
naorhyreply
<pet...@uti.com> wrote:
>Are you talking the regular superheroes, or just the two houses in
>general.
The two companies. Now you must excuse me, I've a Purple Flurple to
Waknoggle and the waters still too hot.
Pete Holland Jr.
> something like 'Watchmen') when I started getting that "I read this
> story last year, only it was with a different hero" feeling.
I was never that into mainstreams myself. I never quite "got" them.
I had a few comics my parents bought me as a kid, but never gave them
much thought. I still remember the first comic I specifically wanted
to buy (Sledge Hammer! #1), and the first comic series I rabidly
collected (The Real Ghostbusters). In fact, I still have first prints
of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles #2 - 8 in my archives (lots of
counterfeits floating around out there, make sure you can trust your
seller).
I eventually drifted into some mainstreams, mainly after the black and
white bubble burst and I was looking for something in this medium I
enjoyed to read. I was a huge fan of Peter David and Mark Waid. One
comic character I enjoyed but never really followed was The Flash.
When people started talking about the Return Of Barry Allen story, I
started picking it up, and I was hooked. Lasted until he left the
series.
But, yes, I know what you mean about mainstreams, only my objection
wasn't the familiarity of the stories, but the pacing. My first
mutant crossover was X-ecutioner's Song. When it came to story
progression, it was almost as bad as Dragonball Z. There was a
situation, not a story per se, and even the plot points it advanced
through weren't all that major, and fight scenes that seemed to go on
forever without any actual conclusion.
I was perfectly happy running around the indies. While my buddy, a
Marvel fanboy, was reading about Wolverine, I was reading the Fabulous
Furry Freak Brothers. Man, that was funny.... Besides, it kept me
from some aspects of comic fandom that I wasn't sure about. Let me
just say, Legion fans didn't seem to have much of a sense of humor at
times, and the conclusion of Waid's run on the series got me mixed up
in more than one "debate".
> It's funny though - For the most part I really enjoy the superhero
> movies because they get back to the essence of the characters without
> the last 20+ years' worth of barnacles they seem to collect these
> days. (Ever read the superhero biographies on Wikipedia? How can
> anyone take them seriously when they seem to go through some major
> life-altering (ie, we gotta get the sales up) crisis every six
> months?)
What's even funnier is things like the Marvel Ultimate line. "Here's
a series where you don't need to know every detail of the past thirty
years to follow the stories!" And what's happened? They've lasted
long enough to develop long histories of their own. On the
"regulation" side, there are people that don't seem to "get" the
characters, or huge storylines that Change Their Lives Forever mixed
with questionable retconning (I don't read Spider-Man, but when I
heard all the talk about One More Day, well....). There are very few
heroes I actually follow anymore, and it's pretty much ones that
either deliver some entertainment value (Deadpool can be really funny)
or don't have a kajillion years of history and neuroses to deal with
(Squirrel Girl is the closest to a modern favorite I have).