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Mesklinite

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Sep 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/29/98
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Dear gentle readers:
Why the hell do you assume anyone who wants to talk about subjects other
than "Lifestyling" is a troll? That's right, close your ears 'cause the truth
hurts!
Is your response when anyone lifts up your dark rock to slam it back down even
harder? Do you have no other life than to sit at home alone and masturbate to
72 dpi images on a by now rather sticky screen? Do you even care about the
subtle human discourse of true intimacy rather than screen-buffered gang-bangs?

I think that SOME of you would at least pause a moment to look in a mirror
(y'know, that thing next to the shower? SHOW-ERR! That tollbooth like thing
you use to play "Doctor Who?") when the practical founder of the genre (Steve
Gallacci) says he's embarassed- and your response is: "Shut up, or we'll
crucify you! You are an Icon only, not to be heard! Criticize our fragile
egos one more time and we'll ruin you!" That really makes me physically ill.
Do any of you care enough to ask Steve how he's doing nowadays? Do any of you
care to hear the answer? Would you swerve if Steve was in the road?
Feh. Talking to yourselves has given you some kind of dull-witted
impression that you must be powerful if yours is the only voice that is heard.
Last time, folks-
Get a LIFE, not a "Lifestyle!"
Yeah- I still do the art: That is not the POINT! The POINT is that you
obsess over trivial matters and therefore deserve the designate: OTAKU! Talk
to the anime fans if you don't know what it means. You kill a genre through
obsessing over niddling details. What color is Minnie's pubic hair? How would
a dinosaur have sex with an anthro rat? Who killed furry fandom? Well, check
the graveyard you are in now- no parent in their right mind would ever want
their children near this crap. Yet- these are some of the people (the kids)
who enjoy it the most! And no- I am not talking about those dribble-glass
humor "animaniacs" and other assorted fodder. I am talking about Richard
Scarry, Stan & Jan Berenstein, the guy who draws Little Critter, Beatrix
Potter, Sesame Street (still a favorite of mine), The Muppet Show (Long Live
Koozbane!), Blue's Clues (Cute show!), and others that escape me for the
moment.
Who cares if you jerk off to this stuff- Nobody wants to hear about that!
NOBODY! Nobody cares- honestly, they don't. They'll politely listen to your
circular arguments about why furrydom as you see it should be loved and
respected, and then simply make a mental note to avoid shaking hands with you.
You wanna know what I think? You all sit here in your private dungeon and make
up experiences because real life and real risk are DANGEROUS and SCARY!
Fiction, if it has any point, is meant to bring about awareness in the reader
of issues and possible solutions, of circumstances of change and enlightenment.
Fantasy, on the other hand, is mental masturbation. You want recognition,
acclaim and notoriety for your "furfiction?" Here's a clue, Jack! Get your
hands outta your pants and embrace the human experience- pleasure and pain
alike! Regardless of fantasy or personal feeling: Biologically and socially
you are still a HUMAN BEING!
Fable and folklore, which include many a "Furry" tale, are actually
concerned with pointing out conflict and depicting resolution. It is a mental
lesson to help a person recognise life's difficulties, and offer solutions and
provide ideas of consequences, and to lift the spirits by providing good
example, and to teach the uninitiated that LIFE IS NOT FAIR! I dare some of
you to go out and read the ORIGINAL Bre'r Rabbit stories. I dare some of you
to READ the Felix Salten book "Bambi", and then go out and try to find "Fifteen
Rabbits."
I dare you to interact with real people, experience the real world, taste
the air of daylight, feel something without mouse or keyboard in front of you,
to truly LISTEN! One of the hardest lessons for me to learn was this: to
listen without comment. Read Siddartha sometime. Open your eyes. Question a
religion, and then listen to the answer. Make a choice for yourself, not for
the group of "netfriends." Visit a zoo and look at the PLANTS! Go to a
national park. Hike a nature trail. Be truly alone for once. Ask yourself
about yourself and begin the gradual stripping away of assumed personalities.
Question whether you are REALLY hungry for a Ding-Dong. Take notice of the
pattern in which you walk. Think about your breathing. Listen to the way you
drink and eat. Pause before taking another bite and savor the flavor of your
meal. Try a new food. Try an old food! Go without, and then indulge. Fast.
Watch the night sky. Read a book that you normally wouldn't. Go to a place
you normally wouldn't. Don't dress like you normally do and listen and absorb
the response from strangers. Risk yourself- emotionally or physically.
Actually think.
Sincerely,
Pat Kelley (No, I don't expect you to buy any more of my stuff. If this
newsgroup is the only one that buys it, I'd rather be poor.)
Please clean up your flames! Send all flames directly to:

meskl...@aol.com

Keep the newsgroup free of drivel!
Make a good point, and I'll be sure to respond.

Jim Doolittle

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In article <19980929141011...@ng87.aol.com>,
meskl...@aol.com (Mesklinite) wrote:

> Dear gentle readers:
> Why the hell do you assume anyone who wants to talk about subjects other
> than "Lifestyling" is a troll? That's right, close your ears 'cause the truth
> hurts!
> Is your response when anyone lifts up your dark rock to slam it back down even
> harder? Do you have no other life than to sit at home alone and masturbate to
> 72 dpi images on a by now rather sticky screen? Do you even care about the
> subtle human discourse of true intimacy rather than screen-buffered
gang-bangs?


I don't have a furry lifestyle. I have a life. I'm an senior in crop
sciences at Illinois, a discipline firmly rooted in reality. I have plenty
of friends, both online and off. I have good relations with my parents.
I've been too busy on weekends to spend a large amount of time on
FurryMuck (one of my time-wasting vices.) I don't collect furry porn. I
have other interests besides furry fandom.

Really, I don't know why a few people are suddenly starting to assume that
all furry fans are losers with no life, simply because of a /very few/
loudmouths on this newsgroup.


> Yeah- I still do the art: That is not the POINT! The POINT is that you
> obsess over trivial matters and therefore deserve the designate: OTAKU! Talk


Yes. Several people on this newsgroup have begun to go nuts over stupid,
silly little things. There's a reason why I rarely take anything I read
here seriously, anymore.

> Fiction, if it has any point, is meant to bring about awareness in the reader
> of issues and possible solutions, of circumstances of change and
enlightenment.
> Fantasy, on the other hand, is mental masturbation. You want recognition,
> acclaim and notoriety for your "furfiction?" Here's a clue, Jack! Get your
> hands outta your pants and embrace the human experience- pleasure and pain
> alike! Regardless of fantasy or personal feeling: Biologically and socially
> you are still a HUMAN BEING!


I revel in being human. I make mistakes, I learn from them. I've
experienced vast depressions, and moments of pure joy. I wouldn't give up
being who and what I am for anything, much less some fur and a tail.

I write. Much of the time, my stories contain 'furry' characters. I happen
to enjoy creating coherent background stories and universes for my
characters. I put them through trials, and see how they come out of it.
Every story I write, I've put hours and hours of thought behind, both in
the initial generation of the story line, and in the many rewrites and
edits.


> the response from strangers. Risk yourself- emotionally or physically.
> Actually think.


I think a lot. Right now, I'm reading through CJ Cherryh's 'Cyteen', and
I've been thinking a lot about how the development of azi have changed and
shaped the society that she's writing about. She makes a whole lot of
really friking cool points that I'm still sorting out. I'm studying for
the two exams I have later this week. Friday, I'm driving north to meet
some friends and see a TMBG concert. I'll probably spend the rest of the
weekend helping my parents with soybean harvest. I can't make the Farm
Progress Show this year, even though it's just over in Indiana, because I
need to attend the college job fair Thursday, and Thursday is the only day
I can get away from classes. I'm editing and rewriting a story, and
figuring out what market to send it to (if any at all). I'm trying to
start dating again, despite the fact that both of us are quite busy at the
moment with classes, work, rehersals (her), and me never being in town on
the weekends. We'll see how that goes...


In short, I think I have a life, thanks. I'm pretty darn happy (if a bit
stressed) at the moment. I have a few issues with some stuff in fandom
that I really don't care for. In the long run, however, it doesn't affect
my everyday life, and I see no need to waste time, bandwidth, and the
patience of others complaining about it.

-Jim

--
Jim Doolittle
dool...@uiuc.edu
http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/doolittl

Dr. Cat

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Mesklinite (meskl...@aol.com) wrote:
: Dear gentle readers:
: Why the hell do you assume anyone who wants to talk about subjects other
: than "Lifestyling" is a troll? That's right, close your ears 'cause the truth
: hurts!

Just a small clue. It's not that people assume non-lifestyle posts are trolls.
People assume that posts that make rude insulting remarks about an entire group
of people are trolls. Like, for instance, "You people are absolute fucking
idiots." Or "And even the less-hardcore fandom bullshit is bullshit. Furry
stories suck. Furry art sucks." Sound familiar?

Just a tip, in case you have any interest in controlling whether your future
posts are labelled as "trolling" or not. If you don't care about that then
feel free to ignore this handy info.

I do notice that this post doesn't contain the words "fuck" or "fucking". But
you still sound like you're pretty angry. There's some specific things you
mentioned that I am slightly tempted to offer a viewpoint or some information
about, but having gotten the impression that your mind is made up to hate the
fandom and insult everyone in it, my reaction is to assume that my time would
be better spent talking to someone that hasn't given the whole fandom up as
hopeless and beyond redemption. I will say that the artist who does Little
Critter whose name you couldn't recall is Mercer Mayer, just FYI. I worked for
him for six weeks back in 1983, back when he was making his first attempt to
get into computer games and "edutainment". (A word that, thankfully, hadn't
been coined back then.)

And I'll also say I feel sorry for you, that you for some reason feel compelled
to spend time here in a newsgroup that you find so wretchedly unpleasant to be
in. But I guess some habits are hard to kick even if you no longer enjoy them.

Anyway if you ever change your mind and you want to "discuss" things like
Mercer Mayer's art instead of "yell at everyone about" whatever topics you're
thinking about, I'd be happy to do that "discuss" thing with regard to various
furry topics. It would be a nice change from making fun of people who want to
keep discussions of totem animals out of the furry cons, which unfortunately
has become my usual pastime here - like I said, habits are hard to break. :X)

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(Disclaimer: Regretably, though my suggestion of discussing points of view
calmly rather than insultingly might seem nice... The fact is, Pat will
probably get more people to discuss things by calling us all fucking idiots
than any calm, polite attempt at discussion would have gotten. Just watch and
see if it's not so. As long as we keep rewarding anger and rudeness with
attention, we'll keep getting lots of them here. And oops, I just did so
myself! Darn! Dang! Shoot! Crap! Oh, I'm being angry now, can I have some
attention for it too? Here, let me try harder. Piss! Fuck! Titties! You
all suck! Bite me!)

(Disclaimer disclaimer: In certain circles, "bite me" is not considered to be
an insult, but actually more of a... Well you don't wanna hear about it.)

G. Raymond Eddy

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> I dare you to interact with real people, experience the real world,
taste
> the air of daylight, feel something without mouse or keyboard in front of
you,
> to truly LISTEN!

Well, I have been sampling Classic Games powered by TEN, on excite.com.
I've been playing Euchre there lately. Does that count?

--

___________ G. Raymond Eddy g e d @ r g t n t
(_ _ _ 748 N. Lisbon St. r d y b i h . e (zigzagged)
(__ __)__)(_/ Carrollton, OH 44615-1126 ICQ: #10322859
___________/ http://www.bright.net/~greddy


PigCop

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Mesklinite wrote:
>
> Dear gentle readers:
> Why the hell do you assume anyone who wants to talk about subjects other
> than "Lifestyling" is a troll? That's right, close your ears 'cause the truth
> hurts!

<snipped for brevity>

Nice to see one of the new rising stars of furrydumb actually take an
"unpopular" yet needed stand regardless of possible reprocussions on
sales rather than the "You want herms and macros in bondage swimming in
spooge? You wanna see characters sucking themselves off? Then I'll
draw it." pandering-to-the-lowest-common-denominator-for-a-buck approach
you see a lot of up-and-coming, and even lots of the "old school"
well-known names in furry taking.

mok...@hotmail.com

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In article <19980929141011...@ng87.aol.com>,
meskl...@aol.com (Mesklinite) wrote:

> Get a LIFE, not a "Lifestyle!"

Rock on, ass-kicker.

> I dare you to interact with real people, experience the real world, taste
> the air of daylight, feel something without mouse or keyboard in front of you,
> to truly LISTEN!

It was Howard Rheingold that said that the next century's currency is
attention. To have any degree influence and control, you must first pay
attention, and then pay attention to what it is you're paying attention to.

B.Root,
still working on the follow-up. Be patient.

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In article <19980929141011...@ng87.aol.com>,
meskl...@aol.com (Mesklinite) wrote:
>
> Dear gentle readers:
> Why the hell do you assume anyone who wants to talk about subjects other
> than "Lifestyling" is a troll? That's right, close your ears 'cause the truth
>

Well mister Kelly (I do enjoy our work btw), I DO see were you are coming
from and do agree on a lot of points, however (isn't there always) it might
be the overall tone that has given you such a negative response. Now I'm the
first to admit that as far as the fandom goes and everything, I don't know
much, but I think the overall feeling is, that while you do make since, this
may not be the time to hear it. That is, I've noticed that the newsgroup has
just gotten over the largest "flame war" I've personally ever seen and things
seemed to be simmering down until your original post.

The post sounded more negative than I'm sure you ment it to be and it seems
in the replies to it that folks are more willing to ignore it's negativity
and not get drawn into another long tail chancing debate.

I guess I'm just saying, the group needs to lick thier wounds (no pun
intended) and move on to other more upbeat things.

BTW, many folks do have personal lives and do a lot of things. For me,
college life in priority number one (gotta hit those books). Checking out
the newsgroup for about one hour out of 24 in a day to see if something
interesting is being discussed is for me a release device (nothing like a
hour of zoning and not using your brain overactively to save the sanity of a
college student).

So let's just chill, no one flame the bejeezus out of this or his post and be
cool.

One critizism though. Why would anyone want to go to the zoo to see plants?
Isn't that sort of defeating the purpose of going to a zoo?

--
Ebony Leopard

ELynne

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On Tue, 29 Sep 1998, PigCop wrote:

Interesting handle. Furry... sort of... heh. :)

> Mesklinite wrote:
> <snipped for brevity>
> Nice to see one of the new rising stars of furrydumb actually take an
> "unpopular" yet needed stand regardless of possible reprocussions on
> sales rather than the "You want herms and macros in bondage swimming in
> spooge? You wanna see characters sucking themselves off? Then I'll
> draw it." pandering-to-the-lowest-common-denominator-for-a-buck approach
> you see a lot of up-and-coming, and even lots of the "old school"
> well-known names in furry taking.

Wow. I just had to say that that is one of the most complex run-on
sentences I've seen in a really long time. I wonder if it's grammatically
correct? I don't have my handbook of sentence structure anymore, which is
a pity as it was terribly useful back when I had delusions of trying to be
a professional writer for money.

Crossover fur, dammit,
-- Erin, Easily Amused
"Look, a bug!"
----------------------
"Public media should not contain explicit or implied descriptions of
sex acts. Our society should be purged of the perverts who provide the
media with pornographic material while pretending it has some redeeming
social value under the public's 'right to know'."
-- Kenneth Starr, 1987, _Sixty Minutes_ interview with Diane Sawyer
http://www.snopes.com/spoons/noose/starr.htm


Jim Doolittle

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In article <19980929223807...@ngol06.aol.com>,
allan...@aol.com (AllanGldmn) wrote:

> Besides, It's only fandom - lighten up and have some fun !


Hear hear!


-Jim

Don Sanders

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In article <19980929141011...@ng87.aol.com>, meskl...@aol.com (Mesklinite) wrote:
>
>Dear gentle readers:

Your first mistake was to address us as gentle readers, even after you wrote
what you wrote.

*** Thus Massive Snippage will Happen!***

> Why the hell do you assume anyone who wants to talk about subjects other
>than "Lifestyling" is a troll? That's right, close your ears 'cause the truth
>hurts!
>Is your response when anyone lifts up your dark rock to slam it back down even
>harder? Do you have no other life than to sit at home alone and masturbate to
>72 dpi images on a by now rather sticky screen? Do you even care about the
>subtle human discourse of true intimacy rather than screen-buffered gang-bangs?
>

Some of us do care, but that don't mean you have to beat us over the head with
facts that can either be confirmed or debunked!


> I think that SOME of you would at least pause a moment to look in a mirror
>(y'know, that thing next to the shower? SHOW-ERR! That tollbooth like thing
>you use to play "Doctor Who?") when the practical founder of the genre (Steve
>Gallacci) says he's embarassed- and your response is: "Shut up, or we'll
>crucify you! You are an Icon only, not to be heard! Criticize our fragile
>egos one more time and we'll ruin you!" That really makes me physically ill.
>Do any of you care enough to ask Steve how he's doing nowadays? Do any of you
>care to hear the answer? Would you swerve if Steve was in the road?
> Feh. Talking to yourselves has given you some kind of dull-witted
>impression that you must be powerful if yours is the only voice that is heard.

(Ok, now I am a bit upset now so chances are I am going to say a few nasty
things! but why not, the poster has provoked me!!!!)

Congratulations, you have just achived yet another level of confusion, let me
point that out.

(1) Hygiene, Yea, I know you directed to a few of the people out there, but
unless you know them personally, leave that out of it. I can imagine how many
folks, if they are willing to respond to such flamebait, will say they bath
regularly. Yes I do have a mirror, and I look in it and wonder, Oh why do I
let things like these get to me.
(2) I am sure Mr. Gallacci has better things to do than to have his name used
in such a bitting post. Just as well use the name of a unknown than Mr.
Gallacci, unless he stated that he wanted to get involved in this flamebait!
(3) There is no number 3, at least I won't stoop myself down low enough to add
one.


>Last time, folks-
>Get a LIFE, not a "Lifestyle!"

Please explain to me again, your defination of a Life!!

> Yeah- I still do the art: That is not the POINT! The POINT is that you
>obsess over trivial matters and therefore deserve the designate: OTAKU! Talk
>to the anime fans if you don't know what it means. You kill a genre through
>obsessing over niddling details. What color is Minnie's pubic hair? How would
>a dinosaur have sex with an anthro rat? Who killed furry fandom? Well, check
>the graveyard you are in now- no parent in their right mind would ever want
>their children near this crap. Yet- these are some of the people (the kids)
>who enjoy it the most! And no- I am not talking about those dribble-glass
>humor "animaniacs" and other assorted fodder. I am talking about Richard
>Scarry, Stan & Jan Berenstein, the guy who draws Little Critter, Beatrix
>Potter, Sesame Street (still a favorite of mine), The Muppet Show (Long Live
>Koozbane!), Blue's Clues (Cute show!), and others that escape me for the
>moment.

Hmm, what adult in their right mind would want to see that! That is my
Point!! Some of us are Adults, Some of us have lived longer than most out
there in the fandom were not even born yet!! Are you suggesting that We
adults start behaving like kids being watched. Granted yes, there were
children out there who wander here from time to time!! However I have yet to
see a discussion that warrented anything more than a PG rating, with the
exception of a few out there who curse and swear!! And that was brought on by
biting flames like this one! Oh I do watch shows that you described, but then
again, I've seen Silver aged Warner brothers before they went into Reruns!

> Who cares if you jerk off to this stuff- Nobody wants to hear about that!
>NOBODY! Nobody cares- honestly, they don't. They'll politely listen to your
>circular arguments about why furrydom as you see it should be loved and
>respected, and then simply make a mental note to avoid shaking hands with you.
>You wanna know what I think? You all sit here in your private dungeon and make
>up experiences because real life and real risk are DANGEROUS and SCARY!
>Fiction, if it has any point, is meant to bring about awareness in the reader
>of issues and possible solutions, of circumstances of change and enlightenment.
> Fantasy, on the other hand, is mental masturbation. You want recognition,
>acclaim and notoriety for your "furfiction?" Here's a clue, Jack! Get your
>hands outta your pants and embrace the human experience- pleasure and pain
>alike! Regardless of fantasy or personal feeling: Biologically and socially
>you are still a HUMAN BEING!

Gee, what part of the fandom have you been in?? I have yet to notice the
activities that you described, of course I could be wrong!



> Fable and folklore, which include many a "Furry" tale, are actually
>concerned with pointing out conflict and depicting resolution. It is a mental
>lesson to help a person recognise life's difficulties, and offer solutions and
>provide ideas of consequences, and to lift the spirits by providing good
>example, and to teach the uninitiated that LIFE IS NOT FAIR! I dare some of
>you to go out and read the ORIGINAL Bre'r Rabbit stories. I dare some of you
>to READ the Felix Salten book "Bambi", and then go out and try to find "Fifteen
>Rabbits."

Read the orginal Bre'r Rabbit Stories in grade school, basicly against my will
because of the fact of the overtones in certain areas! I have read Felix
Salten's Bambi and even the sequel, and the side stories! No I can read more
than comic books, thank you very much!

> I dare you to interact with real people, experience the real world, taste
>the air of daylight, feel something without mouse or keyboard in front of you,
>to truly LISTEN! One of the hardest lessons for me to learn was this: to
>listen without comment. Read Siddartha sometime. Open your eyes. Question a
>religion, and then listen to the answer. Make a choice for yourself, not for
>the group of "netfriends." Visit a zoo and look at the PLANTS! Go to a
>national park. Hike a nature trail. Be truly alone for once. Ask yourself
>about yourself and begin the gradual stripping away of assumed personalities.
>Question whether you are REALLY hungry for a Ding-Dong. Take notice of the
>pattern in which you walk. Think about your breathing. Listen to the way you
>drink and eat. Pause before taking another bite and savor the flavor of your
>meal. Try a new food. Try an old food! Go without, and then indulge. Fast.
>Watch the night sky. Read a book that you normally wouldn't. Go to a place
>you normally wouldn't. Don't dress like you normally do and listen and absorb
>the response from strangers. Risk yourself- emotionally or physically.
>Actually think.
>Sincerely,
>Pat Kelley (No, I don't expect you to buy any more of my stuff. If this
>newsgroup is the only one that buys it, I'd rather be poor.)
>Please clean up your flames! Send all flames directly to:
>
>meskl...@aol.com
>
>Keep the newsgroup free of drivel!
>Make a good point, and I'll be sure to respond.

Been there, done that, lived that, and stuff like that. Yes, I do expect to
buy your stuff. I don't hold a grudge, but that does not mean everyone else
does! as for responding to this, I don't do E-mail, you posted on a public
forum, then a public forum is where I reply, I only do E-mail when I am sure
my response won't get trashcanned! What you mentioned is not new, it seems
that between the current flames, other develops, I guess we will never have
a end to this!!! As easy-going as I am most of the time, this time, I am
getting fed up!! All I want to do is to just be furry, not by everyone else's
defination but my own! Is That so Wrong????

(one sad chow who is getting more and more peeved!)


Don Sanders

Dsan Tsan on #furry of Yiffnet
Artist at Roll Yer Own Graphics
http://www.dreamscape.com/dsand101/dsan.htm
(my furry page) Email dsan...@future.dreamscape.com

AllanGldmn

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> mok...@hotmail.com writes:

>> meskl...@aol.com (Mesklinite) wrote:
>
>> Get a LIFE, not a "Lifestyle!"
>
>Rock on, ass-kicker.

>
>> I dare you to interact with real people, experience the real world,
taste
>> the air of daylight, feel something without mouse or keyboard in front of
you,
>> to truly LISTEN!

Since both of you made the same mistake, It will be easy to reply.

What makes you think we don't have lives? Do you see the headers that show
the
number of people around here posting from college? The number of working
computer
professionals? The frequent complaints about too much adult material in furry
fandom?
Do you see the creative people with URL's to their artwork or stories? Do you
see
anybody having fun after a hard days work and not wanting to have deep, serious
discussions? Do you see people staying on topic by no talking about their other
interests?

Please define "having a life". I have never seen somebody say "get a life"
and not mean it as an insult.

Besides, It's only fandom - lighten up and have some fun !

Al Goldman


Boomer The Dog

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Dr. Cat wrote in message <36113...@feed1.realtime.net>...

(snip)

>hopeless and beyond redemption. I will say that the artist who does Little
>Critter whose name you couldn't recall is Mercer Mayer, just FYI. I worked
for
>him for six weeks back in 1983, back when he was making his first attempt
to
>get into computer games and "edutainment". (A word that, thankfully,
hadn't
>been coined back then.)
>

(snip)

You did!?:) Whee! I *love* his stuff (even if I do occasionally wish his
characters looked more like wolves;). Were you there when he was writing
the "L.C. and the Critter Kids" stuff? Or maybe the odd, nocturnal critter
books with the Howl family?:)

Yours with a wide range of reading,

The eclectic,

Wanderer**wand...@applink.net
Where am I going?I don't quite know.
What does it matter where people go?
Down to the woods where the bluebells grow.
Anywhere! Anywhere! *I*don't know!

Jack Furlong (HillBluffer@FurryMUCK)

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Oct 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/4/98
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In article <doolittl-290...@dan-139-22.housing.uiuc.edu>,

dool...@uiuc.edu (Jim Doolittle) wrote:
>In article <19980929223807...@ngol06.aol.com>,
>allan...@aol.com (AllanGldmn) wrote:
>
>> Besides, It's only fandom - lighten up and have some fun !
>
>
>Hear hear!

There! There!
Where! Where!

*chuckle*

Dr. Cat

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Oct 7, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/7/98
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Wanderer (wand...@applink.net) wrote:
: Dr. Cat wrote in message <36113...@feed1.realtime.net>...
: >Critter whose name you couldn't recall is Mercer Mayer, just FYI. I worked

: >for him for six weeks back in 1983, back when he was making his first attempt

: You did!?:) Whee! I *love* his stuff (even if I do occasionally wish his


: characters looked more like wolves;). Were you there when he was writing
: the "L.C. and the Critter Kids" stuff? Or maybe the odd, nocturnal critter
: books with the Howl family?:)

I don't know if he did any work on any of his children's books during the six
weeks I was there, I didn't see him doing any. The Tink Tonk educational games
on the Atari 800 pretty much vanished without a trace, I think. His little
software company did end up turning out some text adventures based on the James
Bond novels a couple years later, though.

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Aug 3, 2019, 7:46:09 PM8/3/19
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Hmmm Looks like furry lifestyler in 1998 were like extremist members of a cult, aiming to convert everyone to their faith.

tom

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Aug 14, 2019, 8:45:26 PM8/14/19
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how do you convert someone into a furry?

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