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Patrick David Neve

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"These People Have Contributed Materially in Many Ways to Make Our Music
What it is. Please Do Not Hold it Against them."

... followed by a long list of people. Here is the list, with a an AFF-Z
survey of what these celebrities means to them.

These people have contributed materially in many ways to make this list
what it is. Please do not hold it against them;
Matt-a-roo <matt...@ix.netcom.com>
John Purves <Bya...@ix.netcom.com>
Frank Hudson <re...@xminn.net>
Patrick Neve <sp...@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
Spider Gecko <soc...@emory.edu>
Ray Dittmeier <her...@iglou.com>
Cal Schenkel <cal...@RALF.com>
Paul Hinrichs <paul...@mindspring.com>
David F Lynch <dfly...@homer.louisville.edu>
Biffyshrew <biffy...@aol.com>
"Fred H. Banta" <fhb...@mindspring.com>
Konrad <konr...@netcom.com>
FthrRiley <fthr...@aol.com>


PAMELA ZARUBICA
a.k.a. Suzy Creamcheese.

ART LABOE
DJ'd a 50's am radio station KRLA in L.A. in the seventies and probably
earlier. I remember because he used to come on after the L.A. Kings hockey
games.

HAL ZEIGER

JIM GUERCIO
Record Producer. The Buckinghams, Chicago. Involved somehow with the early
Mothers.

HENRY VESTINE
Guitarist of Canned Heat, blues record collector/revivalist.
Was contracted as a member of the Mothers at one time; don't know why it
didn't pan out. Lives in Eugene Oregon and plays mean guitar with local
bands and Canned Heat reunions.

ALICE STEWART
Guitarist with blues influences. Wasn't she in the Mothers and got kicked
out cause she couldn't play Louie Louie?

LILLIAN RUDOLPH

MARK CHEKA
Manager before Herb Cohen.

HERB COHEN
Record company guy. Frank's manager.

TOM WILSON
Record Producer. For a few years in the 60's the "hot guy" with his name
on Mothers, Bob Dylan, Simon & Garfunkel etc. records.

FYLLIS

LUCILLE

JACK TILLAR

DON CERVERIS
FZ's high school English teacher. Writer of Run Home Slow. Appears on
cover of WOIIFTM.

VIC MORTENSON
Played drums on some Studio Z tunes.

TERRY KIRKMAN

FRANKIE LEE SIMMS

SONNY BOY WILLIAMSON
Name used by two great blues harmonica players/singers.

BUDDY GUY
Blues guitarist/singer. At the time considered one of the blues "young
lions".

ALBERT COLLINS
Blues guitarist/singer who at the time was best known for killer blues
instrumentals

LITTLE WALTER
One of the greats of blues harmonica

MAURICE RAVEL
Early 20th century Romantic composer. Wrote Bolero.

JOE POLLY

DON & DEWEY
West coast R&B duo. Don "Sugarcane" Harris was the Don.

LEE ZAGON

STEVE MANN

SKIP DIAMOND

SILVESTER RIVUELTAS

ARNOLD SCHOENBERG
20th century Austrian composer who popularised serialism. Taught at UCLA.

JOE PERRINO
Of Joe Perrino and the Mellotones, a bar band Zappa played in.

JERRY ALLBERG

DONNA #1

DONNA #2

LEOB & LEOPOLD
Mid twentieth century "thrill killers" famed for cooly plotting
unmotivated murder. Probably included for shock/dada value. Better known
as Leopold & Loeb: Homosexual lovers convicted of some gruesome murder in
the thirties.

SACCO & VANZETTI
Labor organizers executed for murder, believed as a left wing cause to
have been a frame up. Coupling with the above adds to shock/dada value.

GENE & EUNICE

ROBERT CRAFT
As Stravinsky's confidante, he was able to document the details of his
thoughts and experiences so Igor could just compose. Conducted Varese,
Stravinsky, and Webern.

CARL GREENHOUSE

DAVE AERNI

BOB KEENE
Creator of Batman

NICK BENET

JIM ECONOMIDES

ALOIS GABA (?)

LEO ORNSTEIN

ELVIS PRESLEY
Truck driver, singer. Fat. Helped found southern white-guy R&B

BARRY MacGUIRE
Sang "Eve of Destruction," a protest song
Didn't write Eve (PF Sloan). Former folk singer.

DON JULIAN

TINY TIM
Ukelele virtuoso. "Tiptoe Through the Tulips."

CORDWAINER SMITH
Science fiction writer.

THEODORE STURGEON
Great SF author and critic. Author of "Sturgeon's Law": 90% of everything
is shit.

ROBERT SHECKLEY
Science fiction writer.

RANDY DE WEES

DICK BARBER
Producer or something. Snorked on WOIIFTM.

EBERHARD KRONHAUSEN
Author. Wrote THE SEXUALLY RESPONSIVE WOMAN.

YVES TANGUY
French surrealist

LENNY BRUCE
Comedian/orator. Performed with the Mothers.

RAVI SHANKAR
Sitar virtuoso, teacher of George Harrison.

CHATUR LAL

N. C. MULLICK

JULES FEIFFER
Cartoonist/author beloved by 60's bohemians. Influenced a lot of folks
(Woody Allen, Gary Trudeau)

THE BOKELMANS

FLOYD

ERNIE TOSI

SHIRLEY EILER

MR. BALLARD
Hank Ballard?

BRIAN EPSTEIN
Manager of the Beatles and some other bands. Died in 1967 or so.

DAVID CROSBY
American guitarist/singer. Former AA member.

HERMAN RUDIN

JOE DE SANTIS

BRUCE GORDON

FRANK DE COVA

ROLAND KIRK
Unbelievable jazz woodwind musician, composer. Famed for playing wind
multiple instruments at once.

WOLFMAN JACK
Disk jockey, Aural annoyance

SNUFF GARRET
Record Producer.

MOLLY BEE

ERNIE FREEMAN

LEW IRWIN

FRED C. DOBBS
Movie character Treasure of the Sierra Madre played by Humphry Bogart & a
great little mid 60's Sunset Strip club (just down from Ben Franks)

JOHN TASKER HOWARD

CECIL FORSYTHE

CHARLES BROWN
Blues singer. Main influence of Ray Charles.

JAMES JOYCE
Irish author of Ulysses, which was involved in a landmark censorship case.
Whom FZ never actually read more than a few pages of.

GEORGE DI CARL

DIANE BAKER
Movie actor, sex symbol.

MELVIN BELLI
Very rich lawyer famous for taking on personal injury lawsuits. Handled
high profile cases in the 60s. Recently deceased.

BULENT AREL
Another modern composer. Works include, Electronic Study No. 1, Sacred
Service Prelude and Postlude, Fragment/DAVIDOVSKY: Electronic Study No.
2/USSACHEVSKY: Linear Contrasts, Metamorphosis, and Improvisation-4711

MAURICIO KAGEL
Contemporary classical composer. He has written some scores that are
entirely text. He also has a piece whose score is prefaced by 202
symbols, 150 of which are not in standard usage. Used prepared pianos in
some of his pieces.

LEONARD ALLEN

DR. BROSSMAN

JERRY MURNANE

UNCLE ED

THE HYPNOTIST

ANIMAL HUXLEY
Aldus Huxley? Maybe some LA Freak who patterned his name after Huxley

SALVADOR DALI
Spanish surrealist painter with a big moustache.

VINCENT PERISCHETTI

CAROL

SABICAS
Flamenco guitarist.

CHARLES MIDDLETON

LANCE REARDON

SABU
Character actor in movies. Usually played young ethnic exotics.

J. ARTHUR RANK
TV chimpanzee.

LUIGI NONO
Contemporary classical composer. Integral serialist until 1960. Member
of post-Webern school. Communist sympathizer. Wrote puzzle canons.
Wrote an anti-American piece called A Floresta. Pointillist.

SYLVIA BRIGHAM

STEFFE

AVEDIS ZILDJIAN
Turkish cymbal maker. His company has been in business over 375 years.

LITTLE ARTHUR MATTHEWS

BOB DYLAN
American folk singer. AKA Robert Zimmerman.

JOAN BAEZ
see BOB DYLAN.

BILL STULLA

ROSEMARIE DE CAMP
TV commercial spokesperson.

BOBBY JAMIESON
Another R&B guy, I think.

B. MITCHELL REED
Famous west coast DJ. Helped innovate the underground FM radio stations
in the late sixties. Last heard him on KMET (94.7) in LA in late
seventies (now an easy listening station...)

CORDY

RUTHIE
Ruth Karmanoff?

JOYCE

JESSE KAYE

PHIL SPECTOR
American record producer, noted for using a lot of instruments. This
technique is called the "wall of sound."

EVY

LYN JOHNSON
That would be Lyndon B. Johnson
Thirty-Sixth US President 1963-1969.

PETE

LEONARD GORCZYCA

DON VLIET
AKA Captain Beefheart.

PEPPER

LAUREN

CHARLES MINGUS
American jazz bassist and composer.

PIERRE BOULEZ
French conductor/composer. Later conducted an FZ album.

ANTON WEBERN
Austrian composer. Student of Arnold Schoenberg.

IGOR STRAVINSKY
Russian composer. Wrote the Rite of Spring. A favorite of FZ's.

WILLIE DIXON
Blues producer, bass player, and writer of a great many classic blues
songs (Spoonful, Little Red Rooster, Back Door Man, etc. etc.)

GUITAR SLIM
American blues guitarist, singer, songwriter.

EDGARD VARESE
Franco-American composer. Developed musique concrete.

MUDDY WATERS
American blues guitarist, singer, songwriter.

HOWLIN' WOLF
American blues guitarist, singer, songwriter.

ELMER VALENTINE
Owner of the Whisky-a-go-go in LA.

PHIL TANZINI

JOHN BECK

MARIO

BOB REINER
This MUST be Rob "Meathead" Reiner, from "All In The Family" fame, and
later, "Spinal Tap."

ERIC DOLPHY
American jazz saxophone/clarinet player. Performed with Charlie Mingus.
His name & work popped up as a theme in FZ's music around Weasels Ripped
My Flesh.

BRAM STOKER
Author of Dracula.

CECIL TAYLOR
modern jazz pianist, composer, writer. Inspired a section of "Monster
Magnet".

BILL EVANS
Jazz pianist, harmonic innovator, composer. Member of one of Miles classic
quintets.

JOHNNY OTIS
Important west coast R&B band leader, record producer and "talent scout".
Was considered totally authentic while being white. Father of Shuggie Otis
who played on Hot Rats.

PRESTON LOVE

SLIM HARPO
American blues guitarist, singer, songwriter.

KARL KOHN

BARB NARCISO

JOHNNY GUITAR WATSON
American blues guitarist, singer, songwriter. Later to be very affiliated
with FZ.

TIM SULLIVAN

SONNY TUFTS
Character actor or lead or second lead in bad movies. See "The Radio Is
Broken."

JOHN WAYNE
AKA The Duke. American actor and hat adjuster.

CLARENCE GATEMOUTH BROWN
R&B singer and guitarist.

JUNIOR MADEO

JEFF HARRIS

BOBBY ATLER

DADDY-O CURTIS CRUMP

KARLHEINZ STOCKHAUSEN
Avant-garde 20th century composer. Known for his use of complex rhythms.

JOE HUSTON

CHUCK HIGGINS

BIG JAY McNEELY
Blues Saxophonist. Still tours.

JIM SHERWOOD
Friend of FZ's from high school. Played saxaphone in the Mothers. AKA
Mototrhead.

SANDY SCHWANEKAMP

NADINE REYES

KAYE SHERMAN
FZ's first wife.

DONALD WOODS
B-Movie actor. Appeared in
Beast From 20,000 Fathoms [1953] Horror/Suspense,
Thirteen Ghosts [1960] Horror/Suspense/Comedy
Bells Of San Fernando [1947] Western,
Wonder Man [1945] Musical & Perforance Art

RICHARD BERRY
Wrote the song Louie Louie.

HUGGY BOY

VERNON GREENE

HUNTER HANCOCK
R&B and rock DJ

WILLIE MAE THORNTON

LIGHTNIN' SLIM
Another American bluesman.

ROGER HUNTINGTON SESSIONS

CHARLES IVES
Composer from Connecticut who predicted many ideas typical to 20th century
music such as serialism, polytonality, et cetera before they were
"popular."

LAWRENCE FERLINGHETTI
S.F. Poet, publisher, author, book store owner City Lights Bookstore.
Important west coast bohemian. Published Howl and was therefore involved
in censorship court battles.

TERRY WIMBERLY

JOHNNY FRANKLIN
Original member of the Blackouts, a Lancaster, CA band featuring FZ on
drums, then guitar.

TEDDY BUNN

JEEPERS
Character in a few songs FZ produced in Studio Z, Letters from Jeepers and
Dear Jeepers. B-movie talk show host around where he lived.

PAUL BUFF
Original owner of Studio Z. Built a multi-track recorder when such a thing
was unheard of.--

Charles Ulrich

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In article
<Pine.GSO.3.96.970414...@gladstone.uoregon.edu>, Patrick
David Neve <sp...@gladstone.uoregon.edu> wrote:

> "These People Have Contributed Materially in Many Ways to Make Our Music
> What it is. Please Do Not Hold it Against them."
>
> ... followed by a long list of people. Here is the list, with a an AFF-Z
> survey of what these celebrities means to them.

As someone already mentioned, the list was covered in great detail in
Society Pages. I'm not about to go through the whole thing, but here are a
few corrections and additions.

> LEOB & LEOPOLD
^^^^
Loeb

> GENE & EUNICE

Recorded the original version of "This Is My Story".

> BOB KEENE
> Creator of Batman

Wrong. That's Bob Kane. Bob Keene was the owner of Del-Fi Records.

> NICK BENET

Nick Venet was a producer at Capitol Records.

> DICK BARBER
> Producer or something. Snorked on WOIIFTM.

Road manager.

> ERNIE TOSI

Vice principal of Antelope Valley High School.

> MR. BALLARD
> Hank Ballard?

Wrong. Music teacher at Antelope Valley High School.

> ANIMAL HUXLEY
> Aldus Huxley? Maybe some LA Freak who patterned his name after Huxley

LA Freak related to Aldous Huxley (niece or granddaughter).



> SALVADOR DALI
> Spanish surrealist painter with a big moustache.

DalĂ­ (with an acute accent on the i). Catalan surrealist painter with a
big moustache.

> J. ARTHUR RANK
> TV chimpanzee.

Wrong. British film producer. Attributed with playing his trademark gong
on the Bonzos' "The Intro and the Outro".

> RUTHIE
> Ruth Karmanoff?

It's Komanoff, and they hadn't met yet.

> KARL KOHN

Music professor at Pomona College. FZ sat in on his class until thrown out
after a disagreement about Webern.

--Charles

Patrick David Neve

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On Mon, 14 Apr 1997, Charles Ulrich wrote:
> > "These People Have Contributed Materially in Many Ways to Make Our Musi=

c
> > What it is. Please Do Not Hold it Against them."
>=20

> As someone already mentioned, the list was covered in great detail in
> Society Pages. I'm not about to go through the whole thing, but here are =

a
> few corrections and additions.

hey, that's great! I didn't know the whole thing was covered in SP. I
sure would like to see that, or to have it's info. Then this matter could
be committed once and for all to the N&C and we could move on...

-splat

>=20


> > LEOB & LEOPOLD
> ^^^^
> Loeb

>=20
> > GENE & EUNICE
>=20


> Recorded the original version of "This Is My Story".

(snip, etc.)

Biffy the Elephant Shrew

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Okay, here are some of the holes filled in. Some of these have already
been answered by others--even me--but I'm working from Splat's galoot
update. Note that some of these names go in "runs," which helps in
making informed guesses...

> HAL ZEIGER

Promoter of R&B shows in So. Cal.

> JIM GUERCIO
> Record Producer. The Buckinghams, Chicago. Involved somehow with the early
> Mothers.

Briefly was a member of the MOI.

> TOM WILSON
> Record Producer. For a few years in the 60's the "hot guy" with his name
> on Mothers, Bob Dylan, Simon & Garfunkel etc. records.
>
> FYLLIS

Because her name follows Wilson's on the list, I think this is Wilson's
secretary, Phyllis Altenhaus. (Monster victim in Uncle Meat.)

> LUCILLE

Don't know, but strongly suspect she is associated with Tom Wilson &
"Fyllis."

> TERRY KIRKMAN

Member of The Association.

> FRANKIE LEE SIMMS

Texan blues singer. Sims is misspelled on Freak Out list.

> STEVE MANN

Guitarist who played with FZ prior to the Mothers.

> SILVESTER REVUELTAS

Mexican composer. (Note corrected spelling.)

> GENE & EUNICE

Doo-wop duo, recorded original version of "This Is My Story."

> DAVE AERNI

Singer, released pre-MOI version of FZ's "Love Of My Life."

> BOB KEENE
> Creator of Batman

No--owner of Donna/Del-Fi records.

> NICK VENET

Producer for Capitol records, instigated the recording of Lumpy Gravy.
(Note corrected spelling.)

> JIM ECONOMIDES

Producer for Capitol records, tried on suits in the studio while telling
an engineer to put "more bass" on "Surfer Girl" by the Beach Boys while
FZ was there trying to pitch him his Studio Z recordings.

> ALOIS HABA

Composer who experimented with microtonal intervals including not only
quarter tones but also fifth tones and sixth tones.

> LEO ORNSTEIN

Russian-American composer-pianist. Bad boy of music before Antheil took
the title.

> DON JULIAN

R&B singer with the Meadowlarks.



> DICK BARBER
> Producer or something.

No, he was the Mothers' road manager. I talked to Don Preston at a
concert Sunday night and he said he was still in contact with him. He
now lives in Nevada and flies a plane he built himself.

> YVES TANGUY

Biffy the Elephant Shrew's favorite painter.



> RAVI SHANKAR
> Sitar virtuoso, teacher of George Harrison.
>
> CHATUR LAL

Tabla player, accompanied Ravi Shankar.

> N. C. MULLICK

Tamboura player, accompanied Ravi Shankar.

(I think the combination of the above three names indicates that FZ
owned the Sound Of India LP on Columbia, one of the first albums of
Indian music to become popular in the west.)

> ERNIE TOSI

Assistant principal at Antelope Valley High when FZ went there.

> SHIRLEY EILER
>
> MR. BALLARD

Mr. Ballard was FZ's music teacher at Antelope Valley HS; this "run"
implies that Shirley Eiler was also a faculty member.

> JOE DE SANTIS
>
> BRUCE GORDON
>
> FRANK DE COVA

These three were actors who played on The Untouchables. This show must
have been a real favorite of FZ's. De Kova was misspelled on the Freak
Out list.

> MOLLY BEE

Pop singer, was a regular on Pinky Lee and Steve Allen TV shows (the
latter at the time when FZ appeared).

> ERNIE FREEMAN

R&B musician.

> LEW IRWIN

D.J., member of The Credibility Gap.

> JOHN TASKER HOWARD
>
> CECIL FORSYTHE

Both composers and authors of music textbooks. Forsyth misspelled on
Freak Out list.



> CHARLES BROWN
> Blues singer. Main influence of Ray Charles.

Famous kite-flyer, sandlot pitcher, owner of Snoopy. (This is a JOKE.)

> LEONARD ALLEN

Boyhood friend of FZ.

> JERRY MURNANE

Another of FZ's high school teachers.

> VINCENT PERISCHETTI

American composer.

> CHARLES MIDDLETON

Played Ming the Merciless in Flash Gordon serials.

> J. ARTHUR RANK
> TV chimpanzee.

No. Movie theater mogul. (You're thinking of J. Fred Muggs from the
Dave Garroway show. Strangely enough, I was thinking of him for Fred.
C. Dobbs.)

> LITTLE ARTHUR MATTHEWS

Singer with Johnny Otis show.

> BILL STULLA

Host of So. Cal. children's show, Engineer Bill.



> ROSEMARIE DE CAMP
> TV commercial spokesperson.

Actually, a film & TV actress and artist.

> RUTHIE
> Ruth Karmanoff?

No. Identity not known.

> JESSE KAYE

MGM accountant. (I always confuse this name with So. Cal. DJ Jerry
Kaye.)

> PEPPER

According to an article quoted in Society Pages, Pepper was a friend of
FZ and babysitter for his kids. That must have come later, since FZ
didn't have any kids at the time in question.

> LAUREN

Lived with FZ at Studio Z, participated in the party tape for which FZ
was busted.

> MARIO

Doorman at the Whiskey A-Go-Go.

> PRESTON LOVE

Sax player with Johnny Otis show.

> KARL KOHN

Charles Ulrich already answered this!

> BARB NARCISO

Early FZ fan.

> TIM SULLIVAN

Producer of Run Home Slow.

> JUNIOR MADEO

Played with FZ in the Ramblers.

> JOE HUSTON
>
> CHUCK HIGGINS

Both R&B sax players. Houston is misspelled on Freak Out list.

> NADINE REYES

Friend of FZ's from Lancaster.

> HUGGY BOY

So. Cal. DJ (and later TV host).

> VERNON GREENE

Recorded "The Letter" with the Medallions, one of FZ's favorite records.

> WILLIE MAE THORNTON

R&B singer, wrote "Hound Dog."

> TERRY WIMBERLY

Played with FZ in the Blackouts.

> TEDDY BUNN

Blues guitarist.

Your pal,
Biffy the Elephant Shrew
Visit me at http://members.aol.com/biffyshrew/biffy.html

Charles Ulrich

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In article <3353DF...@aol.com>, Biffy the Elephant Shrew
<biffy...@aol.com> wrote:

> > LAUREN
>
> Lived with FZ at Studio Z, participated in the party tape for which FZ
> was busted.

According to the newspaper report ("2 A-Go-Go-To Jail"), FZ's collaborator
was named Lorraine Belcher. So I think the identity of Lauren is still up
in the air.

--Charles

Vladimir Sovetov

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Patrick David Neve (sp...@gladstone.uoregon.edu) wrote:
: On Mon, 14 Apr 1997, Charles Ulrich wrote:
: > > "These People Have Contributed Materially in Many Ways to Make Our Musi=
: c
: > > What it is. Please Do Not Hold it Against them."
: >=20

: > As someone already mentioned, the list was covered in great detail in
: > Society Pages. I'm not about to go through the whole thing, but here are =
: a
: > few corrections and additions.

: hey, that's great! I didn't know the whole thing was covered in SP. I
: sure would like to see that, or to have it's info. Then this matter could
: be committed once and for all to the N&C and we could move on...

Surely, Pat! I sit and wait for community to produce the
complete list.
--
Vladimir Sovetov | -Arf she said

: -splat

: >=20
: > > LEOB & LEOPOLD
: > ^^^^
: > Loeb
: >=20
: > > GENE & EUNICE
: >=20

: > Recorded the original version of "This Is My Story".

: (snip, etc.)

CALUMETAIR

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Charles Middleton...I think that was the name of the actor that played
villans in early movies such as the "Flash gordon" episodes (Ming the
merciless)
Would be right up Franks alley.
Tom
who "wound up workin" in a gas station

Biffy the Elephant Shrew

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Charles Ulrich wrote:
>
> In article <3353DF...@aol.com>, Biffy the Elephant Shrew
> <biffy...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > LAUREN
> >
> > Lived with FZ at Studio Z, participated in the party tape for which FZ
> > was busted.
>
> According to the newspaper report ("2 A-Go-Go-To Jail"), FZ's collaborator
> was named Lorraine Belcher. So I think the identity of Lauren is still up
> in the air.

The info I posted was from the Society Pages list, but no source was
given there. Possibly the name was incorrect in the newspaper report.
But you're right; we can't consider this one settled.

Your pal,
Biffy the Elephant Shrew

Go-go to http://members.aol.com/biffyshrew/biffy.html

Cal Schenkel

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cal...@RALF.com (Cal Schenkel) wrote:

>I always thought the reference to PETE was Frank's old girlfiend Pete. It
>was my understanding that it was she who "lived with FZ at Studio Z,
>participated in the party tape for which FZ was busted," not Lauren, (I
>could be wrong, or they could be two of them, or the same person maybe??)

& ulr...@sfu.ca (Charles Ulrich) wrote:

>In article <3353DF...@aol.com>, Biffy the Elephant Shrew
><biffy...@aol.com> wrote:
>

>> > LAUREN
>>
>> Lived with FZ at Studio Z, participated in the party tape for which FZ
>> was busted.
>

>According to the newspaper report ("2 A-Go-Go-To Jail"), FZ's collaborator
>was named Lorraine Belcher. So I think the identity of Lauren is still up
>in the air.
>

>--Charles


Yeah, now I remember: "PETE" is Lorraine Belcher.

--Calvin

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