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Charles Ulrich  
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 More options Dec 5 2004, 7:47 pm
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From: Charles Ulrich <ulr...@sfu.ca>
Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2004 00:47:46 GMT
Local: Sun, Dec 5 2004 7:47 pm
Subject: MAJNH timings and typos
I'm now under the impression that all versions of Make A Jazz Noise Here
have the same discrepancies between printed times and the actual
duration of the tracks:

                         printed      actual
When Yuppies Go To Hell    14:36       13:28
Fire And Chains             3:57        5:04
King Kong                  13:11       13:04
Star Wars Won't Work        3:33        3:40
Sinister Footwear           6:19        6:39
Strictly Genteel            5:37        6:36

Does anyone have a copy of MAJNH that differs from the above timings?

Does anyone have a Barking Pumpkin or Zappa Records MAJNH on which it
says that Black Napkins first appeared on Zoot Allures (as opposed to
the original typo "Toot Allures")?

--Charles


 
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Milhouse Guidry of the mWo  
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 More options Dec 5 2004, 8:59 pm
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From: milhouse...@aol.commieplot (Milhouse Guidry of the mWo)
Date: 06 Dec 2004 01:59:06 GMT
Local: Sun, Dec 5 2004 8:59 pm
Subject: Re: MAJNH timings and typos

CHARLES ULRICH wrote...
>Does anyone have a copy of MAJNH that differs from the above timings?

-I don't know about the older Zappa Records and Barking Pumpkin CD versions, by
my copy of the '95 Ryko CD has no time at all listed for "Harry, You're A
Beast" on the back cover.

--Milhouse
--
Average dude.

Winner - 2004 March Melee
Final 4 - 2004 KoRSPW

mWo.  It's not just the coolest, it's fa lyfe, so survey says
whether you like it or don't like it, never E-e-e-ver tell
me he did *not* just SMELL what mWo 3:16 reeks of.


 
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Román García  
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 More options Dec 5 2004, 9:04 pm
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From: Román García <donl...@ono.com>
Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2004 03:04:48 +0100
Local: Sun, Dec 5 2004 9:04 pm
Subject: Re: MAJNH timings and typos

Charles Ulrich wrote:
> I'm now under the impression that all versions of Make A Jazz Noise Here
> have the same discrepancies between printed times and the actual
> duration of the tracks:

>                          printed      actual
> When Yuppies Go To Hell    14:36       13:28
> Fire And Chains             3:57        5:04
> King Kong                  13:11       13:04
> Star Wars Won't Work        3:33        3:40
> Sinister Footwear           6:19        6:39
> Strictly Genteel            5:37        6:36

> Does anyone have a copy of MAJNH that differs from the above timings?

Yes, my copy of Zappa Records CDDZAP 41 (Made In France, 1991) has:

                          printed      actual
When Yuppies Go To Hell    14:36       14:36
Fire And Chains             3:57        3:56
King Kong                  13:11       13:11
Star Wars Won't Work        3:33        3:33
Sinister Footwear           6:19        6:39
Strictly Genteel            5:37        6:36

Note that the two songs from CD 2 do have discrepancies. Also note that
this version of the CD doesn't have the Stravinsky and Bartòk pieces.

> Does anyone have a Barking Pumpkin or Zappa Records MAJNH on which it
> says that Black Napkins first appeared on Zoot Allures (as opposed to
> the original typo "Toot Allures")?

No. It says "Toot Allures" on mine. And also "T'Mershi Duweeen" both
times on the booklet, but "T'Mershi Duween" on the back cover and the
actual CD.

 
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Milhouse Guidry of the mWo  
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 More options Dec 5 2004, 9:22 pm
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From: milhouse...@aol.commieplot (Milhouse Guidry of the mWo)
Date: 06 Dec 2004 02:22:44 GMT
Local: Sun, Dec 5 2004 9:22 pm
Subject: Re: MAJNH timings and typos

ROMAN GARCIA wrote...
>Yes, my copy of Zappa Records CDDZAP 41 (Made In France, 1991) has:

>                          printed      actual
>When Yuppies Go To Hell    14:36       14:36
>Fire And Chains             3:57        3:56
>King Kong                  13:11       13:11
>Star Wars Won't Work        3:33        3:33
>Sinister Footwear           6:19        6:39
>Strictly Genteel            5:37        6:36

-Is there *any* time listed for "Harry, You're A Beast"? None of the copies of
the '95 Ryko CD I've seen have a time listed at all.

--Milhouse
(who has a headache)

--
Average dude.

Winner - 2004 March Melee
Final 4 - 2004 KoRSPW

mWo.  It's not just the coolest, it's fa lyfe, so survey says
whether you like it or don't like it, never E-e-e-ver tell
me he did *not* just SMELL what mWo 3:16 reeks of.


 
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Charles Ulrich  
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 More options Dec 6 2004, 12:19 am
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From: Charles Ulrich <ulr...@sfu.ca>
Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2004 05:19:12 GMT
Local: Mon, Dec 6 2004 12:19 am
Subject: Re: MAJNH timings and typos
In article <20041205205906.09660.00001...@mb-m20.aol.com>,
 milhouse...@aol.commieplot (Milhouse Guidry of the mWo) wrote:

> CHARLES ULRICH wrote...
> >Does anyone have a copy of MAJNH that differs from the above timings?

> -I don't know about the older Zappa Records and Barking Pumpkin CD
> versions, by my copy of the '95 Ryko CD has no time at all listed for
> "Harry, You're A Beast" on the back cover.

Nor on the Barking Pumpkin CD. I should have included that in the list.

Román, does the Zappa Records CD give a time for HYAB?

--Charles


 
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Charles Ulrich  
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 More options Dec 6 2004, 12:26 am
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From: Charles Ulrich <ulr...@sfu.ca>
Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2004 05:26:36 GMT
Local: Mon, Dec 6 2004 12:26 am
Subject: Re: MAJNH timings and typos
In article <31hsvtF3b9vg...@individual.net>,
 Román García <donl...@ono.com> wrote:

So it looks like they made the first disc of the Zappa Records version
consistent with the printed times, but failed to do this with the second
disc.

And then the Ryko 1995 version was based on the Barking Pumpkin version
anyway.

> > Does anyone have a Barking Pumpkin or Zappa Records MAJNH on which it
> > says that Black Napkins first appeared on Zoot Allures (as opposed to
> > the original typo "Toot Allures")?

> No. It says "Toot Allures" on mine. And also "T'Mershi Duweeen" both
> times on the booklet, but "T'Mershi Duween" on the back cover and the
> actual CD.

The Barking Pumpkin version has "T'Mershi Duweeen" in all three places,
and I believe the Ryko version does as well.

--Charles


 
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Román García  
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 More options Dec 6 2004, 11:11 am
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From: Román García <donl...@ono.com>
Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2004 17:11:15 +0100
Local: Mon, Dec 6 2004 11:11 am
Subject: Re: MAJNH timings and typos

Yes, it does: :47

 
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Milhouse Guidry of the mWo  
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 More options Dec 6 2004, 4:21 pm
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From: milhouse...@aol.commieplot (Milhouse Guidry of the mWo)
Date: 06 Dec 2004 21:21:24 GMT
Local: Mon, Dec 6 2004 4:21 pm
Subject: Re: MAJNH timings and typos

CHARLES ULRICH wrote...
>So it looks like they made the first disc of the Zappa Records version
>consistent with the printed times, but failed to do this with the second
>disc.

>And then the Ryko 1995 version was based on the Barking Pumpkin version
>anyway.

-I thought there was a difference between the '95 Ryko and the older Ryko and
BP CDs in where the track change occurs between "When Yuppies Go to Hell" and
"Fire and Chains" (?)

--Milhouse
--
Average dude.

Winner - 2004 March Melee
Final 4 - 2004 KoRSPW

mWo.  It's not just the coolest, it's fa lyfe, so survey says
whether you like it or don't like it, never E-e-e-ver tell
me he did *not* just SMELL what mWo 3:16 reeks of.


 
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Charles Ulrich  
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 More options Dec 6 2004, 4:59 pm
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From: Charles Ulrich <ulr...@sfu.ca>
Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2004 21:59:09 GMT
Local: Mon, Dec 6 2004 4:59 pm
Subject: Re: MAJNH timings and typos
In article <20041206162124.06264.00001...@mb-m18.aol.com>,
 milhouse...@aol.commieplot (Milhouse Guidry of the mWo) wrote:

> -I thought there was a difference between the '95 Ryko and the older Ryko and
> BP CDs in where the track change occurs between "When Yuppies Go to Hell" and
> "Fire and Chains" (?)

I used to think so, but apparently not. Anyway, I posted the timings
from the Barking Pumpkin CD earlier in this thread. So far, the only
different timings anyone has mentioned are on the Zappa Records CD.

--Charles


 
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Mike Espinoza  
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 More options Dec 6 2004, 10:19 pm
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From: espin...@yaREMOVETHIShoo.com (Mike Espinoza)
Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2004 03:19:54 GMT
Local: Mon, Dec 6 2004 10:19 pm
Subject: Re: MAJNH timings and typos
On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 00:47:46 GMT, Charles Ulrich <ulr...@sfu.ca>
wrote:

Nope.  My Barking Pumpkin CD is identical to your's.  Got mine when
Barfko-Swill was clearing out their old stock.
--
Mike E.
------------
"Too often, men measure themselves by what they can consume or destroy rather
than what they can create."

 
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Fhqwhgads!  
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 More options Dec 6 2004, 11:06 pm
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From: "Fhqwhgads!" <Ilik...@moveit.moveit>
Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2004 04:06:20 GMT
Local: Mon, Dec 6 2004 11:06 pm
Subject: Re: MAJNH timings and typos
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Holy mother of god. What a boring thing to discuss. Oh well, at least you're
not insulting anyone or their mother.

 
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Mower B. Yard  
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 More options Dec 6 2004, 11:24 pm
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From: "Mower B. Yard" <z...@ppa.lives>
Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2004 04:24:36 GMT
Local: Mon, Dec 6 2004 11:24 pm
Subject: Re: MAJNH timings and typos

Your mother compares liner notes to actual running times.

- BAM


 
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