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Johannes Labisch

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Jan 20, 1994, 11:59:27 AM1/20/94
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In article <2hmc5c$a...@skat.usc.edu> sw...@skat.usc.edu (Rob Sweet) writes
the list of Freak Out!

The only two I had to add are

Luigi Nono -
italian composer of electronic music, much political (communist).
He wrote "La fabrica illuminata" (sp?)

and
Richard Berry
the guy who wrote "Louie Louie"


Joe
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Rob Sweet

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Jan 20, 1994, 11:40:12 AM1/20/94
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Here is the list of people in the liner notes of "Freak Out!",
Frank Zappa and The Mothers of Invention's first album, which was
released in 1966. I have added one line descriptions to the people
that I know about. If you would like an alphabeticized list for your
continued research, let me know and I will e-mail it to you. Please
e-mail any additions or changes to sw...@skat.usc.edu.


-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-


"These people have contributed materially in many ways to make
our music what it is. Please do not hold it against them."

Pamela Zarubica - aka "Suzy Creamcheese", groupie, family friend
Art Laboe
Hal Zeiger
Jim Guercio
Henry Vestine
Alice Stewart
Lillian Rudolph
Mark Cheka
Herb Cohen - Frank's "bizniz" manager
Tom Wilson - produced "Freak Out!"
Fyllis
Lucille
Jack Tillar
Don Cerveris
Vic Mortensen
Terry Kirkman
Frankie Lee Simms
Sonny Boy Williamson - blues musician
Buddy Guy - blues musician
Albert Collins - blues musician
Little Walter - blues musician?
Maurice Ravel - 20th century composer, wrote "Bolero"
Joe Polly

Don & Dewey
Lee Zagon
Steve Mann
Skip Diamond
Silvestre Revueltas
Arnold Schoenberg - 20th century 12-tone composer
Joe Perrino
Jerry Ullberg
Donna #1
Donna #2
Loeb & Leopold - ?
Sacco & Vanzetti - ?
Gene & Eunice
Robert Craft - avant-garde musician?
Carl Greenhouse
Dave Aerni
Bob Keene
Nick Venet
Jim Eronomides
Alois Gaba
Leo Ornstein
Elvis Presley - rock 'n roll musician
Barry McGuire

Don Julian
Tiny Tim - nee' Herbert Khouri, wierdo singer
Cordwainer Smith - SF author
Theodore Sturgeon - SF author
Robert Sheckley - SF author
Randy De Wees
Dick Barber
Eberhard Kronhausen
Yves Tanguy
Lenny Bruce - controversial humorist
Ravi Shankar - sitarist extra-ordinaire
Chatur Lal
N. C. Mullick
Jules Feiffer - cartoonist
The Bokelmans
Floyd
Ernie Tosi
Shirley Eiler
Mr. Ballard
Brian Epstein - manager of The Beatles
David Crosby - member of Hollies, later menber of Crosby, Stills, Nash
Herman Rudin
Joe De Santis

Bruce Gordon
Frank De Cova
Roland Kirk - jazz saxophonist
Wolfman Jack - deejay
Snuff Garrett -
Molly Bee -
Ernie Freeman
Lew Irwin
Fred C. Dobbs
John Tasker Howard
Cecil Forsythe
Charles Brown
James Joyce - novelist
George Di Carl
Diane Baker
Melvin Belli - attorney
Bulent Aurel
Mauricio Kagel
Leonard Allen
Dr. Brossman
Jerry Murname
Uncle Ed
The Hypnotist

Animal Huxley
Salvador Dali - surrealistic artist
Vincent Persichetti
Carol
Sabicas - flamenco guitarist
Charles Middleton
Lance Reardon
Sabu - Indian movie star
J. Arthur Rank - ?
Luigi Nono - ?
Sylvia Brigham
Steffie
Avedis Zildjian - cymbal maker
Little Arthur Mathews
Bob Dylan - songwriter
Joan Baez - songwriter
Bill Stulla
Rosemarie De Camp
Bobby Jamieson
B. Mitchell Reed - deejay
Cordie
Ruthie
Joyce

Jesse Kaye
Phil Spector - producer, famous for "Wall of Sound"
Evy
Lyn Johnson
Pete
Leonard Gorrzyra
Don Vliet - aka "Captain Beefheart", musician, high school friend of Frank's
Pepper
Lauren
Charles Mingus - jazz musician
Pierre Boulez - conductor, composer, (pronounced `Boo-lez', ask him)
Anton Webern - 12-tone composer
Igor Stravinsky - 20th century composer
Willie Dixon - blues musician
Guitar Slim - blues musician
Edgar Varese - avant-garde composer
Muddy Waters - blues musician
Howlin' Wolf - blues musician
Elmer Valentine - owner of "Whiskey a-go-go" nightclub
Phil Tanzini
John Beck
Mario
Bob Reiner

Eric Dolphy - jazz musician
Bram Stoker - author of Dracula
Cecil Taylor - "free-jazz" musician
Bill Evans - jazz pianist
Johnny Otis - rhythm & blues musician, does live radio on Pacifica network
Preston Love
Slim Harpo - blues musician
Karl Kohn
Bob Narciso
Johnny Guitar Watson - blues musician, later played on "OSFA", "Them or US"
Tim Sullivan
Sonny Tufts - B-movie actor, mentioned in "The Radio is Broken"
John Wayne - actor
Clarence Gatemouth Brown - blues musician
Junior Madeo
Jeff Harris
Bobby Atler
Daddy-O-Curtis Crump
Karlheinz Stockhausen - avant-garde composer
Joe Huston
Chuck Higgins
Big Jay McNeely

Jim Sherwood - aka "Motorhead", later became member of Mothers
Sandy Schwanekamp
Nadine Reyes
Kaye Sherman
Donald Woods
Richard Berry
Huggy Boy
Vernon Greene
Hunter Hancock
Willie Mae Thornton - blues musician
Lightnin' Slim - blues musician
Roger Huntington Sessions - 20th century composer
Charles Ives - 20th century composer
Lawrence Ferlinghetti - beat poet
Terry Wimberly
Johnny Franklin - high school friend (?), mentioned in "Village of the Sun"
Teddy Bunn
Jeepers
Paul Buff

Chuck Fry

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Jan 20, 1994, 3:56:35 PM1/20/94
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In article <2hmc5c$a...@skat.usc.edu>, Rob Sweet <sw...@skat.usc.edu> wrote:
> Here is the list of people in the liner notes of "Freak Out!",
>Frank Zappa and The Mothers of Invention's first album, which was
>released in 1966. I have added one line descriptions to the people
>that I know about. If you would like an alphabeticized list for your
>continued research, let me know and I will e-mail it to you. Please
>e-mail any additions or changes to sw...@skat.usc.edu.

I'm posting the (very) few I know about. And in fact, many of these are
guesses.

>Loeb & Leopold - ?

Popular songwriters of the '30s, I think.

>Sacco & Vanzetti - ?

Notoious criminals of the '30s?

>Barry McGuire
Folk musician, famous for "Eve of Destruction".

>Dick Barber
The Mothers' road manager.

>Eberhard Kronhausen
20th Century composer.

>Frank De Cova
Studio musician, I think.

>J. Arthur Rank - ?

British film producer?

>Richard Berry
Composer of "Louie Louie". How could you miss this one??

-- Chuck
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Dave Bentzen, Doug Evans, Tess Jacinto, Sue Mackey, Bob Pfeiffer, Don
Johnson

Jan van Kemenade

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Jan 21, 1994, 3:12:40 AM1/21/94
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In article <2hmc5c$a...@skat.usc.edu>
sw...@skat.usc.edu (Rob Sweet) writes:

>




>
>Don & Dewey

I'm not sure on this (I'll look it up this weekend) but I believe
Don is Don "Sugarcane" Harris.


>
>David Crosby - member of Hollies, later menber of Crosby, Stills, Nash

Graham Nash was in the Hollies

>Donald Woods
This rings a bell. Isn't the main figure in "Cry for Freedom" called
Donald Woods ????.


Jan van Kemenade (No, not on the list, that my name :) _

My name is Brian Rost

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Jan 21, 1994, 7:54:38 AM1/21/94
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Here's IDs of some that others haven't mentioned yet.

>Jim Guercio

later producer of Chicago and Beach Boys; played guitar in early Mothers

>Henry Vestine

Later with Canned Heat, also breifly guitar with Mothers

>Alice Stewart

SF area blues guitarist

>Mark Cheka

an early business cohort of Frank's

>Loeb & Leopold - ?

weren't they murderers?

>Sacco & Vanzetti - ?

Sacco and Vanzetti were unjstly execute for a crime they didn't commit...later
became a rallying point for the left

>Nick Venet

another management type, later managed Linda Ronstadt

>Dick Barber

Mothers road manager, played vacuum cleaner in 200 Motels

>Ernie Tosi
>Mr. Ballard

high school teachers at Antelope Valley High (where Frank went)

>Snuff Garrett -

LA based music producer, in 70s did Cher's big hits

>Charles Brown

possibly the writer of "Drifting Blues" and "Merry Christmas Baby" ? blues
pianist/vocalist

>Joe Huston
>Chuck Higgins
>Big Jay McNeely

major R&B saxophonists of the 50s

>Paul Buff

The guy who sold Frank Studio Z in Cucamonga; they also wrote a few songs
together ("Fountian of Love" on Ruben and the Jets)

Brian Rost @tecrus.enet.dec.com

508-568-6115

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Diane Reese

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Jan 21, 1994, 9:15:15 AM1/21/94
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>Sacco & Vanzetti - immigrants and labor organizers, I believe, who were
railroaded, jailed, and executed in the '30s; probably innocent.

>Yves Tanguy - surrealist painter

Diane Reese
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(These opinions are my own, not my employer's.)

david eugene vinson

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Jan 21, 1994, 10:49:04 AM1/21/94
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In article <2hmc5c$a...@skat.usc.edu>, Rob Sweet <sw...@skat.usc.edu> wrote:
> Here is the list of people in the liner notes of "Freak Out!",
>Frank Zappa and The Mothers of Invention's first album, which was
>released in 1966. I have added one line descriptions to the people
>that I know about. If you would like an alphabeticized list for your
>continued research, let me know and I will e-mail it to you. Please
>e-mail any additions or changes to sw...@skat.usc.edu.
>
>
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>
>
>"These people have contributed materially in many ways to make
>our music what it is. Please do not hold it against them."
>
>Jim Guercio-Is this the guy who went on to produce Chicago?
>Don & Dewey-Vocal group from the fifties?
>Loeb & Leopold - College boys in the forties who try to plan and
execute the perfect murder. They were caught and caused quite a
scandal when it was revealed that they were homosexual lovers. They
were executed. See any of the movies "Rope", "Compulsion", or "Swoon".
>Sacco & Vanzetti - Hanged in the fifties for being "communist spies and
sympathisizers".
>Barry McGuire-Early sixties singer "I can't believe we're on the eve of
destruction." Turned to really lame conteporary christian music in the
early seventies.
>Jules Feiffer - cartoonist-OK, but probably much more important as a
playright (sp?)
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Michael Gushulak

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Jan 21, 1994, 2:11:44 PM1/21/94
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> david eugene vinson writes:
>
> In article <2hmc5c$a...@skat.usc.edu>, Rob Sweet <sw...@skat.usc.edu> wrote:
> > Here is the list of people in the liner notes of "Freak Out!",
> >Frank Zappa and The Mothers of Invention's first album, which was
> >released in 1966. I have added one line descriptions to the people
> >that I know about. If you would like an alphabeticized list for your
> >continued research, let me know and I will e-mail it to you. Please
> >e-mail any additions or changes to sw...@skat.usc.edu.
> >
> >
> >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> >
> >
> >"These people have contributed materially in many ways to make
> >our music what it is. Please do not hold it against them."
> >
> >Loeb & Leopold - College boys in the forties who try to plan and
> execute the perfect murder. They were caught and caused quite a
> scandal when it was revealed that they were homosexual lovers. They
> were executed. See any of the movies "Rope", "Compulsion", or "Swoon".

Whoa, wait a minute. I'm sure it's not these two that FZ meant by "Loeb &
Leopold". The L & L that Frank meant were what he called "an incredibly
lifelike simulation" who were rather conspicuous patrons of the Mothers'
Garrick Theatre shows in 1967 and 1968. You can read about them on page 96
of "The Real Frank Zappa Book".

By the way, the original Leopold and Loeb affair occurred around 1924 and
they weren't executed; they were sentenced to life in prison. Loeb was
murdered by a fellow inmate, and Leopold was released on parole after serving
34 years.

Just trying to help in my poor weak way. :)


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New Westminster, B.C., Canada

Paul M. Birch

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Jan 21, 1994, 1:11:00 PM1/21/94
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In article <2hmc5c$a...@skat.usc.edu> sw...@skat.usc.edu (Rob Sweet) writes:

> Here is the list of people in the liner notes of "Freak Out!",
>Frank Zappa and The Mothers of Invention's first album, which was
>released in 1966. I have added one line descriptions to the people
>that I know about. If you would like an alphabeticized list for your
>continued research, let me know and I will e-mail it to you. Please
>e-mail any additions or changes to sw...@skat.usc.edu.

________________________________


A few added descriptions:


>Jim Guercio
Record Producer, including (eventually) Chicago??!!

>Henry Vestine
Canned Heat lead guitarist, original (I think) MOV (pre-Freak Out)


>Barry McGuire
Folk-Rock singer ("Eve of Destruction")


>Mr. Ballard
Hank Ballard???? R&B singing star


>Snuff Garrett -
Pop record producer

>Molly Bee -
Country singer

>Carol
A guess: Carol Kaye? Session bass player extraordinaire (worked with FZ, I
think)

>Rosemarie De Camp
50's TV suburban housewife actress e.g., "Love That Bob" (always wondered
about that listing; tongue-in-cheek, I guess)

Paul Birch
University of Richmond
Richmond, VA

Todd Poynor

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Jan 21, 1994, 4:55:12 PM1/21/94
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: Dick Barber

In addition to the other descriptions, he's the "snork master", whose
snorking shows up on WOIIFTM and elsewhere.

: Jeepers

Is this the character featured in those early productions by FZ that were
released on a collection I saw mentioned here -- "Letter to Jeepers" (or
something) and another one?

Todd

Andrey K. Yeatts

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Jan 21, 1994, 6:15:25 PM1/21/94
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>Sacco & Vanzetti - Hanged in the fifties for being "communist spies and
sympathisizers".

Actually, S&V were Anarchists, and they were executed in 1927. Perhaps
you were thinking of the Rosenbergs?


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Mike Quigley#2

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Jan 20, 1994, 6:36:10 PM1/20/94
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> Chuck Fry writes:
> >Loeb & Leopold - ?
> Popular songwriters of the '30s, I think.

No, two murderers, either in the 20's or 30's, usually identified as Leopold
and Loeb.

> >Eberhard Kronhausen
> 20th Century composer.

You are thinking of Karlheinz Stockhausen. Kronhausen was a sex researcher or
therapist.


Lee Kirk Hawley

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Jan 21, 1994, 10:15:50 PM1/21/94
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Don & Dewey - Don was Don "Sugarcane" Harris
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The ghost of electricity Kirk Hawley
howls in the bones kirkh@indirect.c
of her face. Cunning Widgets
IPRO, Inc.

Brian D. Moore

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Jan 21, 1994, 2:38:38 PM1/21/94
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In article <CJy4u...@rahul.net>, chu...@rahul.net (Chuck Fry) writes:

|> >Loeb & Leopold - ?
|> Popular songwriters of the '30s, I think.
|>

These were two college chums who killed a friend for the thrill of killing. In
the '30's, it was understanably a show trial, with Clanrance Darrow for the defense.
Basis of Hitchcock's "Rope".

|> >Sacco & Vanzetti - ?
|> Notoious criminals of the '30s?
|>

Italian immigrants falsely convicted and executed for the murder of a teenage girl,
also in the '30's.


-- Brian Moore

Chris Grace

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Jan 22, 1994, 10:11:09 PM1/22/94
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>Jim Guercio Producer type who founded and was a member of CHICAGO
>Barry McGuire Have you never heard 'Eve of Destruction'?
>Dick Barber - The source of the Snorks on WOIIFTM
>Mr. Ballard - Possibly J.G.Ballard, experimental writer.

>David Crosby - member of Hollies, later menber of Crosby, Stills, Nash
>J. Arthur Rank - Founder of the Rank Organisation. Movies, Music, and lic
licensee of Xerox for the world outside N and S America.

Jan van Kemenade

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U00...@HNYKUN11.URC.KUN.NL (Jan van Kemenade) writes:

>
>In article <2hmc5c$a...@skat.usc.edu>
>sw...@skat.usc.edu (Rob Sweet) writes:
>
>>Donald Woods

The song "Man from Utopia" was written by Donald $ Doris Woods


Jan van Kemenade.

Erik Paine Brady

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Jan 24, 1994, 12:10:52 PM1/24/94
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It would probably be good if you (Rob S.) had the Society Pages
magazine - they were/are trying to do this same thing; I don't
think they have many names left. I'll try to find the list of
names they don't have....

Loeb and Leopold are the names of 2 MOI fans (well, that's what
they called themselves)...

Erik

Headly Westerfield

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Jan 25, 1994, 6:22:59 PM1/25/94
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Chuck Fry (chu...@rahul.net) wrote:

: In article <2hmc5c$a...@skat.usc.edu>, Rob Sweet <sw...@skat.usc.edu> wrote:
: > Here is the list of people in the liner notes of "Freak Out!",

: I'm posting the (very) few I know about. And in fact, many of these are
: guesses.

: >Loeb & Leopold - ?
: Popular songwriters of the '30s, I think.

Nope! Leopold & Loeb (as it is usually pronounced) were two
thrill-killing teenage kids. The movie COMPULSION is a fictionalized
account of their crime.

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