OT: Albums never heard...
Yesterdays Wafflez
Bob Dylan
Fleetwood Mac
Greatful Dead
Roxy Music
Edgar Winter
Foghat
Judas Preist
Kate Bush
Scorpions
Atomic Rooster
or Klaus Schulze (well that's one song per side)
Y.W. (prog & fusion head)
Frunobulax
> Edgar Winter
> Foghat
> Atomic Rooster (who?)
> or Klaus Schulze
I'm in the same boat as the Waffler with these folks but:
> Roxy Music - The first two, while a definite acquired taste, are a lot of fun, I think.)
> Grateful Dead - I picked up the "What A Long Strange Trip It's Been" comp at the insistance of a friend back in the late 80's. Listened to the whole thing a couple of times. If that's their best, well, I never bought anything else and didn't retain that album.)
> Fleetwood Mac - I really like most of "Then Play On" (Peter green era) - I've never heard any other album of theirs in it's entirety.
> Judas Preist - I hate to admit that I used to have their entire catalog (at least what was available back in the mid 80's) but I've retained none of it. I must admit that I've been tempted to pick up their first album just to get "The Ripper" back in my collection - but, then again, I might hate it if I heard it again, it has been years.
> Kate Bush - I used to have a few of hers, too. "Sensual World" and "Hounds of Love" had a few good tracks, though I couldn't tell you what they are as I haven't heard nor owned any of her stuff in probably 15 years or more. Mostly she is fun to look at.
> Scorpions - My brother and his friends were metal heads - this explains not only why I was into Judas Priest in the 80's but also why I once knew a lot of Scorpions, Krokus, Sweet, Iron Maiden, etc. Don't have any of that shite, now.
Can't think of any other bands I haven't had the "full-album
experience" with but I would assume thousands. It seems an odd
endeavor to think of such things.
Dave
"Yesterdays Wafflez" <Yesterda...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:23410-486...@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net...
> I've still never heard in their entirety any albums by these groups:
>
I haven't heard in their entirety any *songs* by these groups:
(anything in the Billboard top whatever for the past 10 years)
> or Klaus Schulze (well that's one song per side)
Some of the leading digital download vendors carry his stuff
at the regular $.99 per track even for the albums where everything
was 20+ minutes long.
If you're going to investigate his catalog, I'd suggest the stuff
that he did before 1990.
The first time I heard Timewind I was playing it in my car
late at night and the end of side 1 startled the crap outta me.
Biffy the Elephant Shrew
> Bob Dylan
Shrug. You like him or you don't. Just ignore anyone who pulls out the
old saw about how "he writes great songs, but he should get someone
else to sing them." The old Columbia Records advertising slogan got it
right: "Nobody sings Dylan like Dylan." No one else can duplicate the
expressiveness, the knowing winks and leers in the voice, the "lived-
in-ness" of the songs, the utter Bobness of it all. Take Joan Baez:
she has a terrific voice, and if anyone can claim to really know what
Dylan is all about, she should be the one...so why is her _Any Day
Now_ album of all Dylan covers so stiff and lifeless? The Byrds are
famous for their Dylan interpretations, and their "Mr. Tambourine Man"
is indeed a glorious noise, but they might as well be singing a
laundry list for all the involvement with the song they display. (The
fact that they ditched most of the lyrics shows how much respect they
had for the song itself.) Tellingly, the only Dylan interpretations
that surpass Dylan's own are cases where the focus is on musical
arrangements and instrumental prowess, not vocal delivery. I'm
thinking of Hendrix's "All Along The Watchtower" and the Nice's
"Country Pie" and "She Belongs To Me."
> Fleetwood Mac
I have _Then Play On_, which is pretty good, and the first two volumes
of the Boston Tea Party concert (for some reason the third volume was
only in print a short time), which contains some very nice extended
jamming. I just recently picked up _Kiln House_, which contains maybe
three or four really good songs and a bunch of silly rock-&-roll-
revival stuff (apparently Danny Kirwan decided he wanted to be Buddy
Holly).
> Greatful Dead
I own almost everything they released. Just listened to the latest
_Road Trips_ release (#3) this morning. Phil Lesh OWNS these gigs.
> Roxy Music
I have owned everything by them, but got rid of the last two albums.
Apparently they're working on a reunion album, with Eno included and
contributing the the songwriting. I have no idea what that will be
like after all these years.
> Edgar Winter
> Foghat
> Judas Preist
I'm with you on these three. The only thing I own by any of them is
EW's "Frankenstein."
> Kate Bush
I love Kate.
> Scorpions
File under Judas Priest. No interest.
> Atomic Rooster
I own their first three albums, plus a later one with Chris Farlowe on
vocals that is not very good. (But at least I got it for free.)
> or Klaus Schulze (well that's one song per side)
I think I own everything he released up to a point in the 80s. He's
one of those guys who can knock out a whole album in an afternoon; he
must have issued at least a couple of hundred CDs in limited edition
archival box sets over the years.
Your pal,
Biffy the Elephant Shrew
tumbao
> I've still never heard in their entirety any albums by these groups:
> Edgar Winter
EW's "Roadwork" is one of the definitive live albums of my youth. Mostly
Edgar Winter's White Trash live at the Apollo. The highlight for me is
Edgar's brother Johnny sitting in and playing a killer guitar solo fresh
out of rehab (or whatever passed for rehab back in 1972). I listened to
it for the first time in 25 years a while back and found I could sing
that solo note-for-note without consciously remembering it. That's the
definition of a great solo.
Allan
pbuzb...@yahoo.com
wrote:
> > Fleetwood Mac
>
> I have _Then Play On_, which is pretty good, and the first two volumes
> of the Boston Tea Party concert (for some reason the third volume was
> only in print a short time), which contains some very nice extended
> jamming. I just recently picked up _Kiln House_, which contains maybe
> three or four really good songs and a bunch of silly rock-&-roll-
> revival stuff (apparently Danny Kirwan decided he wanted to be Buddy
> Holly).
I've heard some other entire albums: Future Games (I found this one
surprisingly good - sort of ethereal, mildly proggy pop), Bare Trees
(similar to Future Games, but more commercial and not as good),
Rumours (one of the better albums to go platinum in the late 70's),
Tusk (has some interesting bizarre Lindsey Buckingham stuff).
Pat Buzby
Chicago, IL
Milhouse G
>> Roxy Music - The first two, while a definite acquired taste, are a lot of fun, I think.)
The first Roxy Music album is enjoyable, and really weird. One of the
most enjoyable and weird things about it is the way Bryan Ferry sings
like he learned English as a second language.
--
Milhouse
Milhouse G
> Yesterdays Wafflez wrote:
>
>> Bob Dylan
>
> Shrug. You like him or you don't. Just ignore anyone who pulls out the
> old saw about how "he writes great songs, but he should get someone
> else to sing them." The old Columbia Records advertising slogan got it
> right: "Nobody sings Dylan like Dylan." No one else can duplicate the
> expressiveness, the knowing winks and leers in the voice, the "lived-
> in-ness" of the songs, the utter Bobness of it all. Take Joan Baez:
> she has a terrific voice, and if anyone can claim to really know what
> Dylan is all about, she should be the one...so why is her _Any Day
> Now_ album of all Dylan covers so stiff and lifeless? The Byrds are
> famous for their Dylan interpretations, and their "Mr. Tambourine Man"
> is indeed a glorious noise, but they might as well be singing a
> laundry list for all the involvement with the song they display. (The
> fact that they ditched most of the lyrics shows how much respect they
> had for the song itself.)
I agree wholeheartedly with the entirety of this statement, with
exception for the fact that I *hate* Joan Baez' voice.
And I quite like Judas Priest's cover of her "Diamonds and Rust".
--
Milhouse
Mike Espinoza
(Yesterdays Wafflez) wrote:
>I've still never heard in their entirety any albums by these groups:
>
>Edgar Winter
>Kate Bush
>Atomic Rooster
>or Klaus Schulze (well that's one song per side)
Me neither. In fact, I've never heard anything from Atomic Rooster or
Klaus Schulze. I only know the two Edgar Winter songs ("Frankenstein"
and "Free Ride"). I can probably count the number of Kate Bush songs
that I've heard on one hand, and that's including two Peter Gabriel
songs.
...on the other hand...
>Bob Dylan
The only album that I own and like all the way through is Bringing It
On Home. After that, it's mostly pick and choose.
>Roxy Music
I've heard Greatest Hits. That's about it.
>Fleetwood Mac
Know most of the Buckingham-Nicks-era stuff. After that, only a
handful of songs.
>Greatful Dead
I own the What A Long Strange Trip It's Been album, but only because I
got it with an LP lot. Can't stand the fuckin' thing.
>Foghat
Fool For The City and the Live album are the only ones that anybody
ever needs to hear. I own Girls To Chat And Boys To Bounce. It has
one great song ("Live Now-Pay Later") and seven shitty ones.
>Judas Preist
One of my faves. Own 13 albums and 3 DVDs. Have heard everything
with Rob Halford singing except for the newest record.
>Scorpions
Used to be one of my faves. Still love Lovedrive and Love At First
Sting. Ran out of steam about 1985.
>Y.W. (prog & fusion head)
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Mike E.
(part-time metal head)
Mike Espinoza
wrote:
>
>>Bob Dylan
>
>The only album that I own and like all the way through is Bringing It
>On Home. After that, it's mostly pick and choose.
Ugh! I meant Bringing It All Back Home. Jeez.
--
Mike E.
Román García
>
>> Bob Dylan
>
> Shrug. You like him or you don't. Just ignore anyone who pulls out the
> old saw about how "he writes great songs, but he should get someone
> else to sing them." The old Columbia Records advertising slogan got it
> right: "Nobody sings Dylan like Dylan." No one else can duplicate the
> expressiveness, the knowing winks and leers in the voice, the "lived-
> in-ness" of the songs, the utter Bobness of it all.
English not being my first language, my first approach to Dylan was as
an interpreter. I loved his songs and his singing even if I didn't
understand a word of what he was saying. I explain that to everybody who
thinks you have to understand his lyrics to appreciate his music. Of
course, if you understand them it's still better.
(This is also a test. Thanks to Diogenes for mentioning this aioe.org
server, if it works then it's easier to participate here than using
Google Groups.)
Milhouse G
>> Foghat
>
> Fool For The City and the Live album are the only ones that anybody
> ever needs to hear. I own Girls To Chat And Boys To Bounce. It has
> one great song ("Live Now-Pay Later") and seven shitty ones.
I haven't listened to it in a looong time (and I only have it because it
was in my dad's record collection), but I like their first album on
Bearsville a lot more and find it a much easier and less sickening
listen than their later stuff (of which I admit I haven't heard *that*
much, but I'd much rather hear "I Just Wanna Make Love to You", "Highway
Killing Me" or "Leaving Again (Again)" than "Fool For the City" or "Slow
Ride", to name two.)
--
Milhouse
Biffy the Elephant Shrew
> Rumours (one of the better albums to go platinum in the late 70's),
Actually, since that album has had such massive amounts of airplay
since it was released, I wonder if I might not have heard the whole
album after all, just not all at the same time. Looking at the
original track listing, I know 7 out of the 11 songs. It's conceivable
that I could have heard the other four at least once over the past
thirty-odd years.
Mike Espinoza
<biffy...@aol.com> wrote:
That is a very reasonable assumption.
--
Mike E.
Mike Espinoza
I really don't know why I never got sick of "Slow Ride". Gawd knows
it was played enough. I've always liked "Fool For The City" and their
version of "Terraplane Blues". Not that I listen to the album much,
but I still like listening to it when I do put it on.
I included the Live album mainly because of "I Just Wanna Make Love To
You", but the studio version is pretty good, as well. So, yeah, you
could add the first one to the list.
It still underscores the fact that the rest of their output is
garbage, although many reading this have concluded that their ENTIRE
output is garbage. ;)
--
Mike E.
pbuzb...@yahoo.com
> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 07:01:30 -0700 (PDT), Biffy the Elephant Shrew
>
> >On Jun 27, 4:21=A0pm, pbuzby2...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> >> Rumours (one of the better albums to go platinum in the late 70's),
>
> >Actually, since that album has had such massive amounts of airplay
> >since it was released, I wonder if I might not have heard the whole
> >album after all, just not all at the same time. Looking at the
> >original track listing, I know 7 out of the 11 songs. It's conceivable
> >that I could have heard the other four at least once over the past
> >thirty-odd years.
>
> That is a very reasonable assumption.
Looking over the tracklist, I think that although I haven't played the
album since the early 80's, I've heard every song in the last ten
years except "Songbird" and "Oh Daddy," and I don't listen to rock
radio much.
Pat Buzby
Chicago, IL
Martin Gregorie
> I've still never heard in their entirety any albums by these groups:
>
> Bob Dylan
>
In general I agree with Biffy about Dylan.
I'd add another good cover group though - Peter, Paul & Mary.
IIRC when Dylan's stuff first appeared they were far more popular than his
own recordings and I certainly heard their versions of Blowing in the Wind
and Where Have All The Flowers gone before I heard the originals.
I don't have anything like all his albums, but for ones that can easily
be listened to whole I'd recommend Blood On The Tracks, Planet Waves and
Highway 61 Revisited.
--
martin@ | Martin Gregorie
gregorie. |
org | Zappa fan & glider pilot
The old geezer
> > Grateful Dead �- I picked up the "What A Long Strange Trip It's Been" comp at the insistance of a friend back in the late 80's. Listened to the whole thing a couple of times. If that's their best, well, I never bought anything else and didn't retain that album.)
I am distressed by reading this thread that so many music fans do not
care for the GD's music. Unfortunately, Fruno, your friend turned you
on to one of the *worst* compiliations the GD's record label ever put
out.
For the beginner may I suggest two GD Cds:
Workingman's Dead
The Grateful Dead (1971) otherwise known as "Skull & Roses".
These 2 cds just about encompass everything the GD did.
Tho old geezer
ND: Old Grand Dad
NP: Bambu - Dennis Wilson
Mike Espinoza
<biffy...@aol.com> wrote:
>Yesterdays Wafflez wrote:
>
>> Bob Dylan
>
>Shrug. You like him or you don't. Just ignore anyone who pulls out the
>old saw about how "he writes great songs, but he should get someone
>else to sing them." The old Columbia Records advertising slogan got it
>right: "Nobody sings Dylan like Dylan." No one else can duplicate the
>expressiveness, the knowing winks and leers in the voice, the "lived-
>in-ness" of the songs, the utter Bobness of it all. Take Joan Baez:
>she has a terrific voice, and if anyone can claim to really know what
>Dylan is all about, she should be the one...so why is her _Any Day
>Now_ album of all Dylan covers so stiff and lifeless? The Byrds are
>famous for their Dylan interpretations, and their "Mr. Tambourine Man"
>is indeed a glorious noise, but they might as well be singing a
>laundry list for all the involvement with the song they display. (The
>fact that they ditched most of the lyrics shows how much respect they
>had for the song itself.) Tellingly, the only Dylan interpretations
>that surpass Dylan's own are cases where the focus is on musical
>arrangements and instrumental prowess, not vocal delivery. I'm
>thinking of Hendrix's "All Along The Watchtower" and the Nice's
>"Country Pie" and "She Belongs To Me."
Totally agree. People who hate Dylan's voice miss the evocativeness
(sp?) of it.
I would add Hendrix's "Like A Rolling Stone" from Monterey to the
latter list, both because of the instrumental prowess and the fact
that its inclusion in every classic rock radio playlist and 60s
documentary has rendered the original cliched and a bit nauseating.
--
Mike E.
Dickle
not very good. The two albums TOG mentioned are right on as far as
being representative of the group. I've also been a huge fan of Anthem
of the Sun for years. By far the most experimental Dead album, but one
that Zappa fans might find kinda interesting for that exact reason.
Yello Sharc
My favorite GD album is Infrared Roses, but those other two are pretty
good
Milhouse G
I recently downloaded that. Looking forward to hearing it. I like some
Dead stuff. A lot of their songs are really good, but a great deal of
their jamming doesn't excite me too much. Just heard "Aoxomoxoa" for the
first time in years and years the other day (my dad had it on cassette
when I was a kid) and loved it. "Anthem" didn't excite me nearly as
much, but I'll give it another try eventually. Wasn't real crazy about a
lot of "Live Dead", either, but it was alright.
--
Milhouse
Yesterdays Wafflez
when I was like 13yrs old.
Years later my buddy & I worked at a Hospital as I brought my cassette
deck over to tape his awesome lps! I still have the tape but he made a
bong out of an ER Ambu-Bag and recorded 45mins on the tape of him
laughing like in 'Reefer Madness'! Geeezus! I like the GD guitar
jams.
Love youz guyz...thanz,
Y.W.
ND: Capt' Morgan
NW: Bill Bruford @ College Live w/ Allan H.