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Michael Brenna  
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 More options Feb 21, 12:56 am
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
From: Michael Brenna <micbre...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 21:56:24 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Feb 21 2012 12:56 am
Subject: FZShows: homepage since when?
What was the original internet publication date of Jon Naurin's
FZShows? I believe his list started as a text file of some sort, but I
am seeking the date of first version as a proper homepage in its own
right.
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pbuzby2...@yahoo.com  
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 More options Feb 21, 11:06 am
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From: pbuzby2...@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 08:06:23 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Feb 21 2012 11:06 am
Subject: Re: FZShows: homepage since when?
The earliest date in the Wayback Machine for home.swipnet.se/fzshows
is October 2000, but I think it was around before that.

There used to be a time you would see dates and locations of shows on
a tradelist without knowing what songs were on the tape.

Pat Buzby
Chicago, IL


 
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Charles Ulrich  
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 More options Feb 21, 1:39 pm
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From: Charles Ulrich <charlesulr...@shaw.ca>
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 10:39:47 -0800
Local: Tues, Feb 21 2012 1:39 pm
Subject: Re: FZShows: homepage since when?
In article
<73de696d-d28c-4bbc-a8db-78bcc92af...@d15g2000yqg.googlegroups.com>,

 pbuzby2...@yahoo.com wrote:
> The earliest date in the Wayback Machine for home.swipnet.se/fzshows
> is October 2000, but I think it was around before that.

Yes, it had been on Paul Remington's website
<http://www.frontiernet.net/~prem/fzshows.htm>. The Wayback Machine has
that site back to December 1998, when it had last been updated on
September 22, 1998. That was version 5.0.

On October 11, 1997, Paul announced on affz that version 4.0 was on
line. But he also announced a change in the URL, which indicates that
version 3.0 had also been on line.

On January 28, 1997, Jon and Paul apologized on affz for the delay in
updates to FZShows on line.

I found an affz post from September 1996 that cited the URL of the 1974
page of FZShows on Paul's website. References from earlier in 1996
mostly refer to FZShows as a "document" or "file", suggesting a text
file.

There's also a reference in March 1996 to "the FZshows list on St.
Alphonzo's Pancake Homepage". In fact, FZShows version 1.5 is still
there <http://www.science.uva.nl/~robbert/zappa/faq/text/fzshows.txt>
today! But the Wayback Machine only has it archived back to August 2000.

So I'd say the HTML version of FZShows dates from sometime between March
and September 1996.

--Charles


 
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Martin Gregorie  
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 More options Feb 21, 4:05 pm
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From: Martin Gregorie <mar...@address-in-sig.invalid>
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 21:05:26 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Tues, Feb 21 2012 4:05 pm
Subject: Re: FZShows: homepage since when?

On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 10:39:47 -0800, Charles Ulrich wrote:

I have a copy of v1.4 as posted on a.f.f-z if anybody is interested.
I says it covers shows between 1963 and 1992 but I can't find a posting
date for it.

--
martin@   | Martin Gregorie
gregorie. | Essex, UK
org       |


 
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Michael Brenna  
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 More options Feb 22, 12:09 am
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From: Michael Brenna <micbre...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 21:09:34 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Feb 22 2012 12:09 am
Subject: Re: FZShows: homepage since when?
On Feb 21, 7:39 pm, Charles Ulrich <charlesulr...@shaw.ca> wrote:

> sometime between March and September 1996.

Thank you. Great work.
M

 
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Jon Naurin  
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 More options Feb 29, 1:42 pm
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From: Jon Naurin <jon.nau...@nordkroken.se>
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 10:42:15 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Feb 29 2012 1:42 pm
Subject: Re: FZShows: homepage since when?
My own homepage was launched one of the first days of September 2000,
possibly the 5th. Digging through my old correspondence with Paul
Remington, I found that he put the document online on June 13 1996,
which marked its html debute. Prior to that, it was a .txt/.doc
document, which I announced on this newsgroup and mailed out on
request from circa September 1995, and it was about the same time it
became downloadable on St. Alphonzo's Pancake Homepage.

  - Jon


 
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Michael Brenna  
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 More options Mar 1, 7:00 am
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From: Michael Brenna <micbre...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 04:00:49 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Mar 1 2012 7:00 am
Subject: Re: FZShows: homepage since when?
On 29 Feb, 19:42, Jon Naurin <jon.nau...@nordkroken.se> wrote:

> homepage September 2000, possibly the 5th
> document online on June 13 1996, html debute
> Prior to that, it was a .txt/.doc document
> mailed out on request from circa September 1995
> about the same time downloadable on St. Alphonzo's Pancake Homepage.

Thanks.
Exactly what I needed.
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