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Charles Ulrich  
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 More options Apr 13 2011, 6:54 am
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From: Charles Ulrich <ulr...@sfu.ca>
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 03:54:47 -0700
Local: Wed, Apr 13 2011 6:54 am
Subject: Pauline Butcher's book
Coming from Plexus Publishing:

Freak Out: My Life With Frank Zappa by Pauline Butcher

It's scheduled for October, but Amazon will take your money now.

<http://www.amazon.com/Freak-Out-Life-Frank-Zappa/dp/0859654796/>

--Charles


 
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 More options Apr 13 2011, 7:20 am
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From: The old geezer <J...@aol.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 04:20:13 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Apr 13 2011 7:20 am
Subject: Re: Pauline Butcher's book
On Apr 13, 6:54 am, Charles Ulrich <ulr...@sfu.ca> wrote:

> Coming from Plexus Publishing:

> Freak Out: My Life With Frank Zappa by Pauline Butcher

> It's scheduled for October, but Amazon will take your money now.

> <http://www.amazon.com/Freak-Out-Life-Frank-Zappa/dp/0859654796/>

What is your early prognosis/take on this book???

TOG


 
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 More options Apr 14 2011, 7:43 am
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From: deepinder <deepinderche...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 04:43:33 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Apr 14 2011 7:43 am
Subject: Re: Pauline Butcher's book
On Apr 13, 12:20 pm, The old geezer <J...@aol.com> wrote:

> On Apr 13, 6:54 am, Charles Ulrich <ulr...@sfu.ca> wrote:

> > Coming from Plexus Publishing:

> > Freak Out: My Life With Frank Zappa by Pauline Butcher

> > It's scheduled for October, but Amazon will take your money now.

> > <http://www.amazon.com/Freak-Out-Life-Frank-Zappa/dp/0859654796/>

> What is your early prognosis/take on this book???

> TOG

I think this will be a worthwhile book. I did contact her regarding
some research 2 years ago - she was particularly keen to find a
photographer who provided photo's for Hot Rats, as he has taken one of
her with fag.. and FZ with Goldtop at a backstage moment c.68-69. The
impression I received is that she still was in contact with the family
and some of the Mothers and her book will therefore be a valuable
observation from someone a little detached yet within the day to day
ambit of the Mothers and emerging FZ / Herbie enterprises.

 
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 More options Apr 14 2011, 4:42 pm
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From: deepinder <deepinderche...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 13:42:43 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Apr 14 2011 4:42 pm
Subject: Re: Pauline Butcher's book
On Apr 14, 12:43 pm, deepinder <deepinderche...@gmail.com> wrote:

I think the name of the photographer which earlier eluded me is Ed
Careff (aplogies if spelled incorrectly) I recall that Pauline and
later myself found that he difficult to find. I hope she has since
made progress.

 
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Charles Ulrich  
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 More options Apr 14 2011, 5:20 pm
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From: Charles Ulrich <ulr...@sfu.ca>
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 14:20:56 -0700
Local: Thurs, Apr 14 2011 5:20 pm
Subject: Re: Pauline Butcher's book
In article
<ed5b94d1-7e62-4e5d-a17e-2df397368...@gu8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,

 deepinder <deepinderche...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think the name of the photographer which earlier eluded me is Ed
> Careff (aplogies if spelled incorrectly)

Ed Caraeff

<http://edcaraeffphotos.com/>

--Charles


 
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 More options Apr 18 2011, 5:34 pm
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From: ttuerff <ttue...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 14:34:54 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Apr 18 2011 5:34 pm
Subject: Re: Pauline Butcher's book
On Apr 14, 2:20 pm, Charles Ulrich <ulr...@sfu.ca> wrote:

> In article
> <ed5b94d1-7e62-4e5d-a17e-2df397368...@gu8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,

>  deepinder <deepinderche...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I think the name of the photographer which earlier eluded me is Ed
> > Careff (aplogies if spelled incorrectly)

> Ed Caraeff

> <http://edcaraeffphotos.com/>

> --Charles

Isn't that a doctored photo on the cover? I seem to remember seeing
one similar with Janet F. instead.

TT


 
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Charles Ulrich  
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 More options Apr 18 2011, 7:03 pm
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From: Charles Ulrich <ulr...@sfu.ca>
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 16:03:45 -0700
Local: Mon, Apr 18 2011 7:03 pm
Subject: Re: Pauline Butcher's book
In article
<11e0f822-b492-413c-9fe7-038072595...@b13g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,

 ttuerff <ttue...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 14, 2:20 pm, Charles Ulrich <ulr...@sfu.ca> wrote:
> > In article
> > <ed5b94d1-7e62-4e5d-a17e-2df397368...@gu8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,

> >  deepinder <deepinderche...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I think the name of the photographer which earlier eluded me is Ed
> > > Careff (aplogies if spelled incorrectly)

> > Ed Caraeff

> > <http://edcaraeffphotos.com/>

> Isn't that a doctored photo on the cover? I seem to remember seeing
> one similar with Janet F. instead.

I was wondering that too.

The photo with Janet is on the Burnt Weeny Sandwich poster.

If Pauline was photoshopped, it wasn't into the photo with Janet, but
rather into a different photo from the same session. Alternatively, it
seems entirely possible that Janet and Pauline took turns posing with
The Mothers.

--Charles


 
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 More options Apr 19 2011, 9:15 am
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From: deepinder <deepinderche...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 06:15:33 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Apr 19 2011 9:15 am
Subject: Re: Pauline Butcher's book
On Apr 19, 12:03 am, Charles Ulrich <ulr...@sfu.ca> wrote:

Who is Janet F?

 I believe Pauline (Bird) has reverted back to her old name for the
book. I really do look forward to obtaining a copy as she is literate,
English and just seems to me a nice straight lady - who like FZ was in
her own way an observer of disparate social phenomena and has the
ability more than most FZ chroniclers to put the experience onto
paper.  (she has not paid me for this)

D.S.Cheema.


 
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Charles Ulrich  
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 More options Apr 19 2011, 12:52 pm
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From: Charles Ulrich <ulr...@sfu.ca>
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 09:52:37 -0700
Local: Tues, Apr 19 2011 12:52 pm
Subject: Re: Pauline Butcher's book
In article
<f3638c2a-3a9d-4676-853f-3d090528a...@w9g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,

 deepinder <deepinderche...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Who is Janet F?

Janet (Neville-) Ferguson (Hof), as heard on Burnt Weeny Sandwich and
Grand Wazoo and seen in 200 Motels.

--Charles


 
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Charles Ulrich  
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 More options Jun 23 2011, 12:44 am
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From: Charles Ulrich <ulr...@sfu.ca>
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 21:44:12 -0700
Local: Thurs, Jun 23 2011 12:44 am
Subject: Re: Pauline Butcher's book
In article <qr3rp.31598$0s5.5...@newsfe17.iad>,
 Charles Ulrich <ulr...@sfu.ca> wrote:

I just got e-mail from Pauline Butcher, assuring me that the photo is
legitimate. She said that the photo shoot with Ed Caraeff lasted all
afternoon.

Apparently, Janet forgot that Pauline had her photo taken with The
Mothers that day and she too thought the book cover was photoshopped!

--Charles


 
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