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Billboard reveals that MOFO was a bootleg

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Charles Ulrich

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Oct 21, 2008, 4:18:31 PM10/21/08
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003876040>:

> The Zappa Family Trust will kick off a comprehensive campaign to
> commemorate the 40th anniversary of the late Frank Zappa's albums
> next month. "Lumpy Money," a three-CD "audio documentary" due out
> Nov. 25, is the first offering in the series -- and, according to
> Zappa's widow Gail, the most unique.

--Charles

Frunobulax

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Oct 21, 2008, 4:35:30 PM10/21/08
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What about Absolutely Free?

Not enough material for an expanded re-release?

=(

pbuzb...@yahoo.com

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Oct 21, 2008, 4:46:16 PM10/21/08
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No, not enough material. Or, at least, there was a post on the
zappa.com where someone said that Joe told him this.

Pat Buzby
Chicago, IL

Charles Ulrich

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Oct 21, 2008, 4:47:11 PM10/21/08
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In article
<a390661c-eed9-4ffc...@r38g2000prr.googlegroups.com>,
Frunobulax <sevr...@aol.com> wrote:

> What about Absolutely Free?
>
> Not enough material for an expanded re-release?

Correct.

Freak Out!, WOIIFTM, Lumpy Gravy, and CWRATJ all exist in at least two
versions authorized by FZ. Apparently that's not true for Absolutely
Free.

--Charles

Frunobulax

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Oct 21, 2008, 5:16:51 PM10/21/08
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Bummer - I'd LOVE to hear builds/variations/what-have-you on Brown
Shoes Don't Make It alone - easily my fave track of the first two
albums.

Ah, well ...

Mike Espinoza

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Oct 21, 2008, 5:53:59 PM10/21/08
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Actually, MOFO is just a dream. We don't actually own it.

Seriously, though, this is great news. An official release of the
Capitol Lumpy Gravy! Cool! Shall we speculate on other artifacts?
Mono mixes? Mothermania mixes? Original uncensored mixes?
Obviously, build reel instrumentals and actual speed vocals will be on
the menu.

Can't wait!
--
Mike E.

Charles Ulrich

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Oct 21, 2008, 6:46:40 PM10/21/08
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In article
<99be376a-db7b-43e9...@17g2000hsk.googlegroups.com>,
Mike Espinoza <espi...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Seriously, though, this is great news. An official release of the
> Capitol Lumpy Gravy! Cool! Shall we speculate on other artifacts?
> Mono mixes? Mothermania mixes? Original uncensored mixes?
> Obviously, build reel instrumentals and actual speed vocals will be on
> the menu.

instrumental Lonely Little Girl, complete with bridge and orchestral Oh
No, leading into Theme From Burnt Weeny Sandwich without Art Tripp's
percussion

probably the 1980s version of the whole album too

--Charles

Charles Ulrich

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Oct 21, 2008, 6:56:25 PM10/21/08
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In article <ulrich-8DCBC6.15464021102008@shawnews>,
Charles Ulrich <ulr...@sfu.ca> wrote:

and don't forget 1:48-3:31 of Lumpy Gravy in stereo

--Charles

pbuzb...@yahoo.com

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Oct 21, 2008, 8:00:57 PM10/21/08
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On Oct 21, 5:46 pm, Charles Ulrich <ulr...@sfu.ca> wrote:

> probably the 1980s version of the whole album too

I noticed that the article said the set would include two mixes,
prepared by FZ, of each album.

According to Mark Pinske (IIRC), FZ was considering releasing an 80's-
overdubbed Lumpy Gravy but Pinske was able to talk him out of it. We
know FZ recorded overdubs with Arthur and Chad on at least one section
of Lumpy Gravy, which he played in the Speaking Of Music q&a radio
show. To put one far-fetched theory out there, perhaps the 80's
version is the "second mix" (although they may be counting the Capitol
version as the second mix).

The fact that they didn't bother with the mono Freak Out mix in MOFO
makes me skeptical that they will use the mono WOIIFTM (or LG, if
there is one).

Pat Buzby
Chicago, IL

Strictly Commercial

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Oct 21, 2008, 10:08:47 PM10/21/08
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" ... the Zappa Family Trust is working on other projects such as a
vintage live album from the Roxy in Los Angeles and a set of Zappa's
renditions of the compositions French composer Edgar Varese. ... "

See, I knew it: it's an April Fool's Day joke. Or one of Bill's
brilliant hoaxes.

Rollo

Bill

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Oct 22, 2008, 6:50:35 AM10/22/08
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In article <gdm1vh$av4$1...@aioe.org>,
Strictly Commercial <maure...@telus.net> wrote:

:)

The ZFT have been active enough the last couple of years that I haven't
gotten the itch to write something and see it appear on the Idiot
Bastard web site as news.

Bill Not Lantz

Alan Tignanelli

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Oct 22, 2008, 6:52:42 AM10/22/08
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Strictly Commercial wrote:

> " ... the Zappa Family Trust is working on other projects such as a
> vintage live album from the Roxy in Los Angeles and a set of Zappa's
> renditions of the compositions French composer Edgar Varese. ... "
>
> See, I knew it: it's an April Fool's Day joke. Or one of Bill's
> brilliant hoaxes.
>
> Rollo

Well, it does say "working on", not "completing".

Alan

Biffy the Elephant Shrew

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Oct 22, 2008, 6:59:20 PM10/22/08
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On Oct 21, 2:53 pm, Mike Espinoza <espin...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Actually, MOFO is just a dream.  

Sh-boom!

Your pal,
Biffy the Elephant Shrew

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