Anyone read "Shell Shocked" (Howard K.) yet? Any Judee Sill or Bob Harris content?

[sg...@hotmail.com]

I just heard Howard K. being interviewed on WFMU today.
He raved about Louis Prima and Keely Smith, Yo La Tengo, and plugged his book.
JS and/or BH1 content?

[Biffy the Elephant Shrew]

On Saturday, May 18, 2013 2:35:32 PM UTC-7, sg...@hotmail.com wrote:

> JS and/or BH1 content?

Yes, there is a little bit about Judee Sill, mainly the story of the Turtles recording her "Lady-O," which Howard wanted to be the band's swan song. Some mentions of BH1. Great book, I really enjoyed it.

Your pal,
Biffy the Elephant Shrew

[sg...@hotmail.com]

On Saturday, May 18, 2013 7:05:24 PM UTC-4, Biffy the Elephant Shrew wrote:
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Thanks, Biffy. I just emailed him at his website about JS and BH. "Flo" was a tad brusque when I first emailed him about them, but warmed up as we went on, and gave me some primo shit on her first LP on Asylum.
It will be interesting to see what HK's reaction will be...

[The old geezer]

On May 18, 8:15 pm, sg...@hotmail.com wrote:

> Thanks, Biffy. I just emailed him at his website about JS and BH. "Flo" was a tad brusque when I first emailed him about them, but warmed up as we went on, and gave me some primo shit on her first LP on Asylum....

Please elaborate!

TOG

[sg...@hotmail.com]

I guess I shouldn't post the private email, but basically MV was there when JS and BH1 arranged and orchestrated her first LP, and the way he described it was similar to the way Geo. Martin worked with McCartney, or David Angel worked with Arthur Lee on the FC LP.
JS would sing a line she wanted, and BH would write it out, and
suggest instrumentation.
MV had mucho respect for BH1 as a musician, but seemed a little miffed at JS for some reason. I asked him for Jim Pons' (the co-producer of the LP) email address, but he said Pons wanted it kept private.
When asked about what keyboard players the Turtles used in the interview on WFMU yesterday, HK didn't mention BH1 at all, saying that Larry Knechtel was the only keyboard player the Turtles ever used.
This contradicts what I read in some book on dead rockers, which listed BH1 as the pianist with the Turtles.
At very least, BH1 wrote the string quartet arrangement on the Turtles cover of "Lady-O" by Sill.
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[Charles Ulrich]

In article <bf89a5a7-6efe-492e...@googlegroups.com>,

sg...@hotmail.com wrote:

> When asked about what keyboard players the Turtles used in the interview on
> WFMU yesterday, HK didn't mention BH1 at all, saying that Larry Knechtel was
> the only keyboard player the Turtles ever used.
> This contradicts what I read in some book on dead rockers, which listed BH1
> as the pianist with the Turtles.

For what it's worth, the credits of Solid Zinc list several other
keyboard players: Don Randi (piano on You Know What I Mean), Michel
Rubini (Battle Of The Bands), Chip Douglas (Story Of Rock & Roll, pump
organ on You Showed Me), Paul Beaver (Moog on Elenore and You Showed
Me), Jerry Yester (piano on We Ain't Gonna Party No More, piano and
organ on There You Sit Lonely)

... and Bob Harris (piano on Lady-O).

Also Kaylan, Volman, Nichol, and Seiter.

--Charles

[sg...@hotmail.com]

On Saturday, May 18, 2013 8:15:04 PM UTC-4, sg...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, May 18, 2013 7:05:24 PM UTC-4, Biffy the Elephant Shrew wrote:
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Someone hipped me to what HK says about JS in the book:
"Yes, he mentions Judee refers to her as a brilliant singer-songwriter, extraordinary, sensitive and talented beyond comprehension etc. Says her husband was Bob Harris who later joined the Mothers. Talks about doing Lady-O. Said "one of her songs screamed to be sung by yours truly"


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[Charles Ulrich]

In article <charlesulrich-564B49.17464819052013@shawnews>,

Charles Ulrich <charle...@shaw.ca> wrote:

> In article <bf89a5a7-6efe-492e...@googlegroups.com>,
> sg...@hotmail.com wrote:
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> > When asked about what keyboard players the Turtles used in the interview on
> > WFMU yesterday, HK didn't mention BH1 at all, saying that Larry Knechtel
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> > the only keyboard player the Turtles ever used.
> > This contradicts what I read in some book on dead rockers, which listed BH1
> > as the pianist with the Turtles.
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> For what it's worth, the credits of Solid Zinc list several other
> keyboard players: Don Randi (piano on You Know What I Mean), Michel
> Rubini (Battle Of The Bands), Chip Douglas (Story Of Rock & Roll, pump
> organ on You Showed Me), Paul Beaver (Moog on Elenore and You Showed
> Me), Jerry Yester (piano on We Ain't Gonna Party No More, piano and

> organ on There You Sit Lonely),

Harry Nilsson (piano on Story Of Rock & Roll),

> ... and Bob Harris (piano on Lady-O).
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> Also Kaylan, Volman, Nichol, and Seiter.
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> --Charles

--Charles

[Ron Moses]

On Saturday, May 18, 2013 7:05:24 PM UTC-4, Biffy the Elephant Shrew wrote:
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> Yes, there is a little bit about Judee Sill, mainly the story of the Turtles recording her "Lady-O," which Howard wanted to be the band's swan song.

I'd read a biography of Judee Sill in a heartbeat. Drug-addicted crypto-mystic-Christian multi-instrumentalist weirdo genius who died too early? Gotta be a few choice stories there.

ron

[sg...@hotmail.com]

Tell me about it- I was obsessed with this Witch (she claimed to be) and her music for almost two years.
Thank God I got the lobotomy, and I've broken her evil spell!
One guy tried to pitch a JS bio to a bunch of publishers and got nowhere; as FZ would say, "no commercial potential".
She outed David Geffen, and her career was finished.
I was okay till I heard the HK interview; now I'm starting to remember...


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