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imipak

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Sep 25, 2009, 2:46:09 PM9/25/09
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Many, many moons ago, when the Earth was still young and humanity had
not yet evolved a fourth arm, groups of geeks and coders would
sometimes gather in communities to hack on Elite derivatives. And it
was Good. Sadly, as time went on, these geeks lost the power of speech
and all efforts on their part to communicate to the outside world the
fruits of their labour went unheard.

You, Commander Jameson, have been selected to travel in this specially-
designed Cobra Mk. VI to seek, locate and brain-probe these
communities to determine how much further they progressed after their
last public drop and before the asteroid PB&J took out their ISP.

(Seriously, the drop dates for projects like JJFFE and FFE3D are worse
than some of the projects I run single-handed when I get a free
second. Oolite got abandoned officially, but we all know that coders
will have written their own patches, fixed bugs they've found, etc -
it's only dead in name. But nobody friggin' tells anyone! What're you
guys waiting for, 100% bug-free code? A Federal grant? The lottery,
using a cryptographic hash of the codebase as a basis for the
numbers?)

John Jordan

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Sep 26, 2009, 1:48:51 PM9/26/09
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imipak wrote:
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> (Seriously, the drop dates for projects like JJFFE and FFE3D are worse
> than some of the projects I run single-handed when I get a free
> second.

JJFFE has been feature-complete for a long time. Essentially I just
support it when compatibility issues arise. There are a number of other
projects (AnisoFFE, GLFFE, FFED3D) based on JJFFE code which had further
goals.

> Oolite got abandoned officially, but we all know that coders
> will have written their own patches, fixed bugs they've found, etc -
> it's only dead in name. But nobody friggin' tells anyone! What're you
> guys waiting for, 100% bug-free code? A Federal grant? The lottery,
> using a cryptographic hash of the codebase as a basis for the
> numbers?

Well, Oolite is pretty easy to work with, which is not something I could
say for JJFFE. If no-one is making releases, it's simply that they don't
have the motivation to do anything significant to it. No-one's going to
bother making minor releases without a project maintainer to do the hard
work for them.


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John Jordan

Dylan Smith

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Sep 28, 2009, 6:49:45 AM9/28/09
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On 2009-09-25, imipak <imi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> second. Oolite got abandoned officially, but we all know that coders
> will have written their own patches, fixed bugs they've found, etc -
> it's only dead in name.

Oolite was never abandoned officially or unofficially.

The original author decided to move onto other things, but by this time
there were already three or four other developers working on the game
who took over the reins. Development never ceased.

d33j

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Oct 27, 2009, 2:05:02 AM10/27/09
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On Sep 28, 6:49 pm, Dylan Smith <d...@alioth.net> wrote:
> On 2009-09-25, imipak <imi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > second. Oolite got abandoned officially, but we all know that coders
> > will have written their own patches, fixed bugs they've found, etc -
> > it's only dead in name.

And let us not speak of The Elite Project (TEP)
;)

Graham Thurlwell

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Oct 27, 2009, 6:34:15 PM10/27/09
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Please don't, I still haven't managed to get my head round the huge
pile of seemingly-unconnected backups of the site I have lying around.
;-)

The only thing I know for certain is that the directory I was keeping
most of my notes in seems to have gone. :-(

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Angus

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Oct 28, 2009, 4:09:23 PM10/28/09
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In article <83dab241-9308-4267-95e0-81c541377617
@t11g2000prh.googlegroups.com>, robert.de...@gmail.com says...

Oh yeah - that. :)

Occasionally, when I take the Park and Ride into Bath, I go past a road
called Oolite street which always makes me chuckle.

Rhino

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Oct 29, 2009, 6:15:27 AM10/29/09
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On 28 Oct, 20:09, Angus <angus@_ANTISPEM_angusm.demon.co.uk> wrote:
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> Occasionally, when I take the Park and Ride into Bath, I go past a road
> called Oolite street which always makes me chuckle.

I live in Bath, too. I was walking past that road one day last year
and even took a photo of the street sign with my phone camera and sent
it to the Oolite authors! Doesn't get any sadder than that!!

Dave N

Angus

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Oct 29, 2009, 4:30:38 PM10/29/09
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In article <fb0aaa8a-f563-4c78-aef7-24a8ed365c00@
37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, psy...@googlemail.com says...

Nah Dave, that's essentially creative, not sad. .....Well, maybe a
little bit. :)

I have to admit the idea occurred to me also.

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