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Robin Johnson

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Sep 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/26/99
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He thought to himself
"How did I get up here?
I thought that the Russians
Had abandoned the Mir.
Without attitude jets
To keep Mir on its path
It looks like I'll be taking
A warm plasma bath.

"I wish that I knew
How to keep this thing up!
Instead I'll be fried
Like a Labrador pup.
Yes, I'll be reduced
To charred, freeze-dried granules,
Just like those unfortunate
Soviet spaniels."

Sure enough, as the base
With its one solemn sentry
Strayed from its orbit
And plunged to re-entry,
His last living moments
Were less than enjoyed.
The hull ruptured, and out he popped
Into the void.

In the vaccuum outside
The decrepit space station
He died nice and slowly
Of asphyxiation.
This is what happens
To idiots who
Follow up spam.
Louis, this means you.

--
Robin Johnson
GS>$ d+(-) s-():- a18 C+++(++) !U !P L+ E W+++ N++ o K w--() !O M-- !V
PS(+) PE-() Y-- !PGP t+ 5-- X-- R+++ tv-(+) b++ DI+ D- G e>+++ h!>* r-
y-(?)
ro...@NO-SPAM.nondescript.f9.co.uk <- Remove NO-SPAM to reply by email
http://www.nondescript.f9.co.uk/
Isn't that interesting?


Tom Morton

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Sep 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/27/99
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Robin Johnson <ro...@NO-SPAM.nondescript.f9.co.uk> wrote in message
news:93gH3.4191$cm.105563@wards...

NO! Your blood boils and you die looking like a kipper! I'll prove it...
Now all I need is 200ml of mercury and something to melt pyrex glass
with...

> This is what happens
> To idiots who
> Follow up spam.
> Louis, this means you.

Are you in your strange new home yet?


--
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http://www.yikesstation.freeserve.co.uk/frontier/yikes.htm

Tom 'Moretom' Morton

Matt Dibb

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Sep 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/27/99
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Tom Morton wrote:

> NO! Your blood boils and you die looking like a kipper! I'll prove it...
> Now all I need is 200ml of mercury and something to melt pyrex glass
> with...

You tend to explode as the pressure builds - pop!

Jan Knutar

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On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 04:01:10 +0100, "Robin Johnson"
<ro...@NO-SPAM.nondescript.f9.co.uk> wrote:

>
>He thought to himself
>"How did I get up here?

Those mushrooms he just ate.


-JK

Louis J.M

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Sep 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/28/99
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In article <7snldt$2g5$3...@news5.svr.pol.co.uk> , "Tom Morton"
<tmo...@yikesstation.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>> This is what happens
>> To idiots who
>> Follow up spam.
>> Louis, this means you.

Ian Bell and Braben are getting at it and you're still making pot
shots at me.

.-~~-.____ Louis J.M
/ | ' \
( ) O _
\_/-, ,----' // E-Mail: Lou...@BellSouth.net
==== ___// WWW : Coming Soon!
/ \-'~; /~~~(O)----------------------------------------------------
/ __/~| __/ |I cannot believe that God plays dice with the cosmos.
==(______| (_________|


Tom Morton

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Louis J.M <Lou...@BellSouth.Net> wrote in message
news:oKTH3.959$K33....@news1.mia...

> In article <7snldt$2g5$3...@news5.svr.pol.co.uk> , "Tom Morton"
> <tmo...@yikesstation.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> >> This is what happens
> >> To idiots who
> >> Follow up spam.
> >> Louis, this means you.
>
> Ian Bell and Braben are getting at it and you're still making pot
> shots at me.

No he isn't. I'll tell you the way it works: It's a running joke.
After mentioning some immature action it seems appropriate to
remind the least mature of the group, who probably wants to do
said action. Don't worry, it happens to me all the time in real life:

Don't shove your fingers in power sockets. That means you too, Tom.
Don't cut your stomach open to examine it's contents. Tom, that means
you, too.
Don't wedge your hand in the disk drive and select an 84 track format
with bad sector checking. That means you, Tom.

<sigh>

One day i'm going to have to grow up...

...

...

...

NAH! HEHEHEHEHE!
<kicks louis in the crotch and runs off giggling>


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Dave Bett

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Sep 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/28/99
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Tom Morton wrote in message <7sq5s6$6m1$2...@news7.svr.pol.co.uk>...

>
>Louis J.M <Lou...@BellSouth.Net> wrote in message
>news:oKTH3.959$K33....@news1.mia...
>> In article <7snldt$2g5$3...@news5.svr.pol.co.uk> , "Tom Morton"
>> <tmo...@yikesstation.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>> >> This is what happens
>> >> To idiots who
>> >> Follow up spam.
>> >> Louis, this means you.
>>
>> Ian Bell and Braben are getting at it and you're still making pot
>> shots at me.
>
>No he isn't. I'll tell you the way it works: It's a running joke.
>After mentioning some immature action it seems appropriate to
>remind the least mature of the group, who probably wants to do
>said action. Don't worry, it happens to me all the time in real life:
>
>Don't shove your fingers in power sockets. That means you too, Tom.
>Don't cut your stomach open to examine it's contents. Tom, that means
>you, too.
>Don't wedge your hand in the disk drive and select an 84 track format
>with bad sector checking. That means you, Tom.
>

Don't put your balls in the blender. That means you David.
Don't rub a grater on your cock. That means you David.
Don't put your head out the train window. That means you David.
Don't drink the sulphuric acid. That means you David.
Don't burn the copper nitrate and smell the gas produced. That means you
David.

><sigh>
>
I hear you. <big sigh>

>One day i'm going to have to grow up...


One day I'll need to grow some common sense...


>
>...
>
>...
>
>...
>
>NAH! HEHEHEHEHE!
><kicks louis in the crotch and runs off giggling>
>
>

NAH!!
<kicks inoccent passer by in crotch and runs into a wall>

>--
>Yikes Station: Visit it NOW. And that means you too, Louis.
>http://www.yikesstation.freeserve.co.uk/frontier/yikes.htm
>
>Tom 'Moretom' Morton
>
>

-Dave Bett
Demons Gate & Shaft's Place
http://fly.to/vebein
http://fly.to/shafts-place
"Feck! Arse! Drink!"


Robert J. Baker

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Sep 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/28/99
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On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 04:01:10 +0100, in alt.fan.elite, "Robin Johnson"
<ro...@NO-SPAM.nondescript.f9.co.uk> spake thus about "When friends let friends
follow up spam":

[...]


>This is what happens
>To idiots who
>Follow up spam.
>Louis, this means you.

Robin thought, "Ah, my point
In a poem I'll wrap."
Sadly, the result
Was a right load of rubbish... ;<)

--
------------------------------------------------
*** REALITY CHECK ***
Your universe has performed an illegal operation and will be arrested.
Evacuate it while you can...

Robert J. Baker

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On Tue, 28 Sep 1999 13:17:50 +0100, in alt.fan.elite, "Dave Bett"
<d.b...@net.ntl.com> spake thus about "Re: When friends let friends follow up
spam":

>Don't burn the copper nitrate and smell the gas produced. That means you
>David.

What is copper nitrate, exactly?

(About five quid an hour, I think...)

Dave Bett

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Robert J. Baker wrote in message <37f0f3ca...@news.freeserve.net>...

>On Tue, 28 Sep 1999 13:17:50 +0100, in alt.fan.elite, "Dave Bett"
><d.b...@net.ntl.com> spake thus about "Re: When friends let friends follow
up
>spam":
>
>>Don't burn the copper nitrate and smell the gas produced. That means you
>>David.
>
>What is copper nitrate, exactly?
>
Copper, nitrogen and oxygen. When you burn it a brown poisness gas a
produced.

Dave Bett

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Sep 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/28/99
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Dave Bett wrote in message <7sqe22$qic$2...@nclient7-gui.server.ntli.net>...

>Tom Morton wrote in message <7sq5s6$6m1$2...@news7.svr.pol.co.uk>...
>>
>>Louis J.M <Lou...@BellSouth.Net> wrote in message
>>news:oKTH3.959$K33....@news1.mia...
>>> In article <7snldt$2g5$3...@news5.svr.pol.co.uk> , "Tom Morton"
>>> <tmo...@yikesstation.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>>> >> This is what happens
>>> >> To idiots who
>>> >> Follow up spam.
>>> >> Louis, this means you.
>>>
>>> Ian Bell and Braben are getting at it and you're still making pot
>>> shots at me.
>>
>>No he isn't. I'll tell you the way it works: It's a running joke.
>>After mentioning some immature action it seems appropriate to
>>remind the least mature of the group, who probably wants to do
>>said action. Don't worry, it happens to me all the time in real life:
>>
>>Don't shove your fingers in power sockets. That means you too, Tom.
>>Don't cut your stomach open to examine it's contents. Tom, that means
>>you, too.
>>Don't wedge your hand in the disk drive and select an 84 track format
>>with bad sector checking. That means you, Tom.
>>
>
>Don't put your balls in the blender. That means you David.
>Don't rub a grater on your cock. That means you David.
>Don't put your head out the train window. That means you David.
>Don't drink the sulphuric acid. That means you David.
>Don't burn the copper nitrate and smell the gas produced. That means you
>David.
>
Almost forgot to add:
<German teacher to class about the video projects>
No references to Hitler, the Nazis ot the Jews. That means you David, Ross
and Andy.
It didn't stop us, I still have the transcript somewhere, it was funny.

Matt W

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Sep 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/28/99
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In article <7sr0jk$1v5$1...@nclient9-gui.server.ntli.net>, Dave Bett
<d.b...@net.ntl.com> writes

>Robert J. Baker wrote in message <37f0f3ca...@news.freeserve.net>...
>>On Tue, 28 Sep 1999 13:17:50 +0100, in alt.fan.elite, "Dave Bett"
>><d.b...@net.ntl.com> spake thus about "Re: When friends let friends follow
>up
>>spam":
>>
>>>Don't burn the copper nitrate and smell the gas produced. That means you
>>>David.
>>
>>What is copper nitrate, exactly?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>>
>Copper, nitrogen and oxygen. When you burn it a brown poisness gas a
>produced.
>
>>(About five quid an hour, I think...)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>>
>>--
>>------------------------------------------------
>>*** REALITY CHECK ***
>>Your universe has performed an illegal operation and will be arrested.
>>Evacuate it while you can...
>
>
can't anybody get a bad joke these days.

--
Matt W
http://fly.to/btff

Dave Bett

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Sep 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/28/99
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Matt W wrote in message <$YJK$CABgQ...@ponsanooth0.demon.co.uk>...
no.
--Dave

Laura

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Sep 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/29/99
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Dave Bett wrote:

>>>Don't burn the copper nitrate and smell the gas produced. That means you
>>>David.
>>
>>What is copper nitrate, exactly?
>>

>Copper, nitrogen and oxygen. When you burn it a brown poisness gas a
>produced.
>

And, while you're at it, don't dump the ferrous sulfide (FeS) in the
hydrochloric acid (HCl) in a well hidden place at your school, unless you'd
like school to be prematurely out that day ;-)

To produce ferrous sulfide, mix powdered sulphur with powdered iron (equal
weight), and burn. Residue is ferrous sulfide.
The hydrochloric acid should be the standard 30% one which is widely
available.
Kids, don't try this at home ;-)

Laura

Robert J. Baker

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On Wed, 29 Sep 1999 06:52:15 +0200, in alt.fan.elite, "Laura" <la...@secret.dk>

spake thus about "Re: When friends let friends follow up spam":

>Kids, don't try this at home ;-)

Or anywhere else??? ;<)

Dave Bett

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Laura wrote in message <7ss657$524$1...@news.cybercity.dk>...
>Kids, don't try this at home ;-)
>
>Laura
>
>
I'm printing this out and taking it to the chemistry lab tomorrow 2 period.
I'll teach that bitch to give me detention.

Anyone know the substances used to crate molten iron. We seen a video on it
but I wasn't listening to it and it didn't put up on the screen how the done
it. All I remember is something about 20 seconds to get away from it. There
was a plant pot involved.

Laura

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Dave Bett wrote:

>I'm printing this out and taking it to the chemistry lab tomorrow 2 period.


They should have both substances in stock, so you probably won't have to
make the ferrous sulphide yourself. It looks like lava rock, and should be
crushed to smaller pieces for faster results. Use generous amounts of both,
and hide the container well - the stench will soon be too powerful to
locate, as it will seem to come from everywhere.
Oh, and place it low in the building, as the hydrogen sulphide gas (same as
in rotten eggs) is lighter than air, so place it on the ground floor
somewhere and it will stink up the entire building.

>I'll teach that bitch to give me detention.

If she finds out who did it, I think she will learn :-)


>
>Anyone know the substances used to crate molten iron. We seen a video on it
>but I wasn't listening to it and it didn't put up on the screen how the
done
>it. All I remember is something about 20 seconds to get away from it. There
>was a plant pot involved.


Are you sure you mean molten iron? All that takes is a lot of heat...
You must mean something else, judging from what you wrote.

Happy stinkings!

Laura

Laura

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Sep 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/29/99
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Robert J. Baker wrote:

>>Kids, don't try this at home ;-)
>

>Or anywhere else??? ;<)
>
Try it in a place for which you have an intense dislike, but remember that
you'll be smelling it too if you're there...

Laura

Dave Bett

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Sep 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/29/99
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Laura wrote in message <7stebb$1s50$2...@news.cybercity.dk>...
Ground floor cafe in school, 2 weeks tomorrow, after which I'm away to get a
tattoo.
Can't catch if I'm not there.

Matt W

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Sep 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/29/99
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In article <7steba$1s50$1...@news.cybercity.dk>, Laura <la...@secret.dk>
writes
I'm thinking - he means thermite - the reaction used to weld rail tracks
together (old method)

aluminium (aluminum) powder.
Iron oxide (rust)
magnesium ribbon to light it with.
not to mention the iron filings.
the ceramic plant pot to contain it a little.

Matt Dibb

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Laura wrote:

> And, while you're at it, don't dump the ferrous sulfide (FeS) in the
> hydrochloric acid (HCl) in a well hidden place at your school, unless you'd
> like school to be prematurely out that day ;-)
>
> To produce ferrous sulfide, mix powdered sulphur with powdered iron (equal
> weight), and burn. Residue is ferrous sulfide.
> The hydrochloric acid should be the standard 30% one which is widely
> available.

> Kids, don't try this at home ;-)


Also, don't attempt to make your own nitrous oxide injector for you car
and either blow it up of kill yourself as the suspension breaks and the
transmission melts...

Matt Dibb

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Sep 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/29/99
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Dave Bett wrote:

> Anyone know the substances used to crate molten iron. We seen a video on it
> but I wasn't listening to it and it didn't put up on the screen how the done
> it. All I remember is something about 20 seconds to get away from it. There
> was a plant pot involved.


To make molten iron?! Surely your knowledge can extend to this?!

HEAT IT

But, I am assuming you mean the reaction that I can't quite remember -
they used it to weld railtracks together on the ol' days (when this was
all fields). Aluminium has something to do with it. Anyone?

Matt W

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In article <37F26CE2...@cwcom.net>, Matt Dibb <matt...@cwcom.net>
writes

aluminium powder & rust - w/magnesium ribbon to light it.

Dave Bett

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Matt W wrote in message <$dGaOBA+...@ponsanooth0.demon.co.uk>...

>In article <7steba$1s50$1...@news.cybercity.dk>, Laura <la...@secret.dk>
>writes
>>
>>Dave Bett wrote:
>>
>>>I'm printing this out and taking it to the chemistry lab tomorrow 2
period.
>>
>>
>>They should have both substances in stock, so you probably won't have to
>>make the ferrous sulphide yourself. It looks like lava rock, and should be
>>crushed to smaller pieces for faster results. Use generous amounts of
both,
>>and hide the container well - the stench will soon be too powerful to
>>locate, as it will seem to come from everywhere.
>>Oh, and place it low in the building, as the hydrogen sulphide gas (same
as
>>in rotten eggs) is lighter than air, so place it on the ground floor
>>somewhere and it will stink up the entire building.
>>
>>>I'll teach that bitch to give me detention.
>>
>>If she finds out who did it, I think she will learn :-)
>>>
>>>Anyone know the substances used to crate molten iron. We seen a video on
it
>>>but I wasn't listening to it and it didn't put up on the screen how the
>>done
>>>it. All I remember is something about 20 seconds to get away from it.
There
>>>was a plant pot involved.
>>
>>
>>Are you sure you mean molten iron? All that takes is a lot of heat...
>>You must mean something else, judging from what you wrote.
>>
>>Happy stinkings!
>>
>>Laura
>>
>>
>I'm thinking - he means thermite - the reaction used to weld rail tracks
>together (old method)
>
That be it.

>aluminium (aluminum) powder.
>Iron oxide (rust)
>magnesium ribbon to light it with.
>not to mention the iron filings.
>the ceramic plant pot to contain it a little.
>

I can get the ingredients easily, I shall be burning a new hole in the desk
tomorrow. :)

Robert Pfeifer

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Sep 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/29/99
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Through a fractal on a breaking wall, I see Matt W
<Elit...@ponsanooth0.demon.co.uk> write:

}I'm thinking - he means thermite - the reaction used to weld rail tracks
}together (old method)
}

}aluminium (aluminum) powder.
}Iron oxide (rust)
}magnesium ribbon to light it with.
}not to mention the iron filings.
}the ceramic plant pot to contain it a little.

Also a little Mg and Cu powder, and any hyperoxide you can lay your
hands on (we used something based on barium - Barium pentoxide?). The
hyperoxide makes it go faster and helps it get started. The Mg and Cu
powder is just to make it prettier...

Rob

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an exhausting first night spent with a beautiful ... passionate ... multi-
murderess." E-mail: Robert Pfeifer <rp @ i.am>
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Tom Morton

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Laura <la...@secret.dk> wrote in message news:7ss657$524$1...@news.cybercity.dk...

>
> Dave Bett wrote:
>
> >>>Don't burn the copper nitrate and smell the gas produced. That means you
> >>>David.
> >>
> >>What is copper nitrate, exactly?
> >>
> >Copper, nitrogen and oxygen. When you burn it a brown poisness gas a
> >produced.
> >
> And, while you're at it, don't dump the ferrous sulfide (FeS) in the
> hydrochloric acid (HCl) in a well hidden place at your school, unless you'd
> like school to be prematurely out that day ;-)
>
> To produce ferrous sulfide, mix powdered sulphur with powdered iron (equal
> weight), and burn. Residue is ferrous sulfide.
> The hydrochloric acid should be the standard 30% one which is widely
> available.
> Kids, don't try this at home ;-)

Yes. Apart from smelling bad Hydrogen Sulphide is actually more poisonous
than Hydrogen Cyanide. I suppose the smell is an unavoidable warning...


--
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Brian Ronald

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Sep 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/29/99
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In article <7steba$1s50$1...@news.cybercity.dk>,

"Laura" <la...@secret.dk> writes:
>>Anyone know the substances used to crate molten iron. We seen a video on it
>>but I wasn't listening to it and it didn't put up on the screen how the
> done
>>it. All I remember is something about 20 seconds to get away from it. There
>>was a plant pot involved.
>
>
> Are you sure you mean molten iron? All that takes is a lot of heat...
> You must mean something else, judging from what you wrote.

No, he's right - this reaction is used to weld railway tracks together.
Iron oxide and some other highly reactive agent are mixed in a ceramic pot
that resembles a plant pot and has a hole in the bottom. This reaction
requires a lot of heat to get going, so two chmicals that provide just that
in a spontaneous reaction are heaped on top. 20 seconds later, a blob of
molten iron falls out of the hole in the bottom, and usually into a gap in a
railway track. A quick angle-grind later to remove the bump, and it's done.

I don't know what the three chemicals involved that aren't iron oxide are.

--
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Laura

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Sep 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/30/99
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Tom Morton wrote:

>Yes. Apart from smelling bad Hydrogen Sulphide is actually more poisonous
>than Hydrogen Cyanide. I suppose the smell is an unavoidable warning...
>

Really? I find it hard to believe... As far as I know, taking a whiff of
cyanide gas will cause immediate asphyxiation, whereas doing the same with
hydrogen sulphide will do nothing except smell really _really_ bad. Anyway,
the human nose is extremely sensitive to the smell of hydrogen sulphide, a
few parts per million will smell god-awful but be nowhere near toxic
concentration. That will cause any right-thinking individuals to flee before
it gets any worse.

Laura

Robert J. Baker

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On Wed, 29 Sep 1999 20:43:48 +0100, in alt.fan.elite, Matt Dibb
<matt...@cwcom.net> spake thus about "Re: When friends let friends follow up
spam":

>Also, don't attempt to make your own nitrous oxide injector for you car


>and either blow it up of kill yourself as the suspension breaks and the
>transmission melts...

In Private Eye a few Christmasses ago, I read an allegedly-true story about some
pillock (American, of course -- who else would be so daft?) who attached a jet
engine to his car and tried it out on a long, straight stretch of highway, with
the inevitable results. Apparently, in what must be the worst case of misplaced
optimism of all time, he seemingly thought that standard car brakes would be
good enough to stop him at that speed! At least, that's what the accident
investigator construed from the evidence, as according to the story all that was
left of the driver was his teeth...

Matt Dibb

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Laura wrote:
>
> Tom Morton wrote:
>
> >Yes. Apart from smelling bad Hydrogen Sulphide is actually more poisonous
> >than Hydrogen Cyanide. I suppose the smell is an unavoidable warning...
> >
> Really? I find it hard to believe... As far as I know, taking a whiff of
> cyanide gas will cause immediate asphyxiation, whereas doing the same with

Cyanide (CN) merely inhibits/blocks all metabollic reactions, hence
death.

Matt Dibb

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"Robert J. Baker" wrote:
>
> On Wed, 29 Sep 1999 20:43:48 +0100, in alt.fan.elite, Matt Dibb
> <matt...@cwcom.net> spake thus about "Re: When friends let friends follow up
> spam":
>
> >Also, don't attempt to make your own nitrous oxide injector for you car
> >and either blow it up of kill yourself as the suspension breaks and the
> >transmission melts...
>
> In Private Eye a few Christmasses ago, I read an allegedly-true story about some
> pillock (American, of course -- who else would be so daft?) who attached a jet
> engine to his car and tried it out on a long, straight stretch of highway, with
> the inevitable results. Apparently, in what must be the worst case of misplaced
> optimism of all time, he seemingly thought that standard car brakes would be
> good enough to stop him at that speed! At least, that's what the accident
> investigator construed from the evidence, as according to the story all that was
> left of the driver was his teeth...

Idiot. Did he turn the engine off before breaking?!

Laura

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Matt Dibb wrote:
>
>Cyanide (CN) merely inhibits/blocks all metabollic reactions, hence
>death.

Ok, and respiration, being a metabolic reaction, would be the first one to
shut down - hence asphyxiation.

Laura

Robert Pfeifer

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Through a fractal on a breaking wall, I see Matt Dibb

It was a solid fuel takeoff assist rocket - once lit, no stopping 'em.
They use them to get large cargo planes in the air on short army
runways.

They found several hundred metres of rubber streaks on the road, then
a long gap, and the back end of his car pressed up against a cliff
down the road after the first turn, about fifty feet off the ground.

This is why F1 cars have spoilers.

Dylan Smith

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Dave Bett <d.b...@net.ntl.com> wrote in message news:7stblg$74h$2@nclient5-

> Anyone know the substances used to crate molten iron. We seen a video on
it
> but I wasn't listening to it and it didn't put up on the screen how the
done
> it. All I remember is something about 20 seconds to get away from it.
There
> was a plant pot involved.

Solid iron + lots of heat usually gives you molten iron ;-)

--
Dylan Smith, Houston TX.
http://www.icct.net/~dyls
"Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee"


Dylan Smith

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Robert J. Baker <rober...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 29 Sep 1999 20:43:48 +0100, in alt.fan.elite, Matt Dibb
> <matt...@cwcom.net> spake thus about "Re: When friends let friends follow
up
> spam":
>
> >Also, don't attempt to make your own nitrous oxide injector for you car
> >and either blow it up of kill yourself as the suspension breaks and the
> >transmission melts...
>
> In Private Eye a few Christmasses ago, I read an allegedly-true story
about some
> pillock (American, of course -- who else would be so daft?)

I think it is urban legend. The guy was supposed to have strapped a JATO
(jet-assisted take off) rocket to his car. Once started, you cannot stop a
JATO and they impart a highly significant amount of thrust (basically used
to get C-130's out of short airstrips). They demonstrated this last year at
Ellington Field, and it was impressive when attached to a C130. Supposedly,
when attached to the guy's Chevy Impala, the thing got airborne and struck a
cliff.

On the other hand, nitrous oxide injection has been done for years by many
people. You can buy nitrous kits to do the job. However, you have to make
sure the fuel mixture never gets on the lean side since it will put very big
holes in your piston crowns and cylinder heads (thus writing off the
engine). A good nitro kit shouldn't do this of course ;-) It's also a good
idea to have better than stock brakes, tires and suspension on your car
before you attempt it!

Matt Dibb

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Sorry, I thought you meant layman asphyxiation - you have demonstrated
you know the true meaning of respiration....:)

Matt Dibb

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Dylan Smith wrote:

> On the other hand, nitrous oxide injection has been done for years by many
> people. You can buy nitrous kits to do the job. However, you have to make
> sure the fuel mixture never gets on the lean side since it will put very big
> holes in your piston crowns and cylinder heads (thus writing off the
> engine). A good nitro kit shouldn't do this of course ;-) It's also a good
> idea to have better than stock brakes, tires and suspension on your car
> before you attempt it!


Try telling that to my mate who has a 1.0 Nova. The gears will probably
melt if the thing doesn't blowup first.....

Paul Johnstone

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Laura <la...@secret.dk> wrote in message
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> Tom Morton wrote:
>
> >Yes. Apart from smelling bad Hydrogen Sulphide is actually more poisonous
> >than Hydrogen Cyanide. I suppose the smell is an unavoidable warning...
> >
> Really? I find it hard to believe... As far as I know, taking a whiff of
> cyanide gas will cause immediate asphyxiation,

I was led to believe (by my science teacher) that cyanide smells like
almonds, so if it was instantly fatal how could anyone have discovered what
it smells like?

Professor: Go on lad, take a big whiff and tell us what it smells like...
Hampster: Erm, Ok, <sniff>, Mmm, it smells a bit like almoarrrrrghhh <choke>
<thump>.
Professor: Oh bugger, we nearly had it there. Send in the next one.


--
Paul Johnstone
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Elite Legacy
http://www.dalgety-bay.freeserve.co.uk

Paul Johnstone

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Dave Bett <d.b...@net.ntl.com> wrote in message
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>
> I can get the ingredients easily, I shall be burning a new hole in the
desk
> tomorrow. :)
>
No you wont! You need a blowtorch to ignite it!

Sneakyfish

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Matt Dibb <matt...@cwcom.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> Laura wrote:
>
> > And, while you're at it, don't dump the ferrous sulfide (FeS) in the
> > hydrochloric acid (HCl) in a well hidden place at your school, unless
you'd
> > like school to be prematurely out that day ;-)
> >
> > To produce ferrous sulfide, mix powdered sulphur with powdered iron
(equal
> > weight), and burn. Residue is ferrous sulfide.
> > The hydrochloric acid should be the standard 30% one which is widely
> > available.
> > Kids, don't try this at home ;-)
>
>
> Also, don't attempt to make your own nitrous oxide injector for you car
> and either blow it up of kill yourself as the suspension breaks and the
> transmission melts...

Hi. I know sod all about chemistry. However, if anyone stumbles accross a
way to turn tap water into gold during this conversation I'd love to hear
about it.
Cheers.

Laura

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Paul Johnstone wrote:

>I was led to believe (by my science teacher) that cyanide smells like
>almonds, so if it was instantly fatal how could anyone have discovered what
>it smells like?


It is much as with hydrogen sulphide - the smell of hydrogen cyanide is
detectable even in the very faintest concentrations. Actually, the reason
that almonds smell like almonds is because of their very small cyanide
content. Eating a lot of almonds (I mean a lot) can prove fatal.
What I meant was, that I once took a whiff of hydrogen sulphide coming right
out of the test tube where it was created, and didn't die (obviously) or
suffer any ill effects, although I'm not going to try it again.


>
>Professor: Go on lad, take a big whiff and tell us what it smells like...
>Hampster: Erm, Ok, <sniff>, Mmm, it smells a bit like almoarrrrrghhh
<choke>
><thump>.
>Professor: Oh bugger, we nearly had it there. Send in the next one.
>

Good one ;-)

Laura


Laura

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Paul Johnstone wrote:
>
>> I can get the ingredients easily, I shall be burning a new hole in the
>desk
>> tomorrow. :)
>>
>No you wont! You need a blowtorch to ignite it!
>
No he won't - the magnesium strip can be ignited by a simple cigarette
lighter. It takes maybe about a minute or so, but it can be done. He could
attach a simple sparkler to it, and get it lit even faster. Those things
burn plenty hot.

Laura

Dylan Smith

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Matt Dibb <matt...@cwcom.net> wrote in message
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A good nitro kit shouldn't do this of course ;-) It's also a good
> > idea to have better than stock brakes, tires and suspension on your car
> > before you attempt it!
>
> Try telling that to my mate who has a 1.0 Nova. The gears will probably
> melt if the thing doesn't blowup first.....

That's one problem with doing a serious performance mod like nitro
injection. He'll probably need straight-cut gears otherwise the gearbox will
shred itself. (Not to mention new brakes so he can stop the thing, and a
suspension setup to match).
Quite a lot of people have performance enhanced Minis (with similar engine
displacements) with good results, but you have to do the whole car - the
engine's just a little bit of what needs to be done.

Dave Bett

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Paul Johnstone wrote in message <7t0nih$sgr$2...@uranium.btinternet.com>...

>
>Dave Bett <d.b...@net.ntl.com> wrote in message
>news:7su146$h4i$1...@nclient7-gui.server.ntli.net...
>>
>> I can get the ingredients easily, I shall be burning a new hole in the
>desk
>> tomorrow. :)
>>
>No you wont! You need a blowtorch to ignite it!
>
>
Bunsen burner with the airhole open, nice transparent, blue flame. Very hot,
burnt my tie to a crisp.

-Dave Bett
Demons Gate & Shaft's Place
http://fly.to/vebein
http://fly.to/shafts-place
"Feck! Arse! Drink!"

Matt W

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In article <7t0nih$sgr$2...@uranium.btinternet.com>, Paul Johnstone
<a.w.jo...@dalgety-bay.freeserveNOSPAMmy.co.uk> writes

>
>Dave Bett <d.b...@net.ntl.com> wrote in message
>news:7su146$h4i$1...@nclient7-gui.server.ntli.net...
>>
>> I can get the ingredients easily, I shall be burning a new hole in the
>desk
>> tomorrow. :)
>>
>No you wont! You need a blowtorch to ignite it!
>
>
A blow torch won't reach high enough temperature - according to the book
in front of me.

Brian Ronald

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In article <37f3596b...@news.freeserve.net>,

rober...@bigfoot.com (Robert J. Baker) writes:
> In Private Eye a few Christmasses ago, I read an allegedly-true story about some
> pillock (American, of course -- who else would be so daft?) who attached a jet
> engine to his car and tried it out on a long, straight stretch of highway, with
> the inevitable results. Apparently, in what must be the worst case of misplaced
> optimism of all time, he seemingly thought that standard car brakes would be
> good enough to stop him at that speed! At least, that's what the accident
> investigator construed from the evidence, as according to the story all that was
> left of the driver was his teeth...

I remember reading that one - they found the marks from his fingernails in the
remains of the steering wheel.

Laura

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Matt W wrote:

>A blow torch won't reach high enough temperature - according to the book
>in front of me.


High enough to ignite solid magnesium? That doesn't take more heat than
what a simple cigarette lighter will provide, especially if it's one of
those reheater-types.
Isn't the magnesium there to initiate the reaction?

Laura

Laura

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Sneakyfish wrote:
>
>Hi. I know sod all about chemistry. However, if anyone stumbles accross a
>way to turn tap water into gold during this conversation I'd love to hear
>about it.
>Cheers.


Easy! Use nanotechnology to disassemble the atoms in the water into its
constituent nuclear particles, and then assemble gold atoms from them.
Should nanotech be unavailable in your local area, you might split the
hydrogen from the oxygen in the water using electricity, and then repeatedly
use fusion reactions to eventually build gold atoms, although this is the
more labor-intensive method. Best of luck!

Laura

Matt W

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In article <7t4347$27ld$1...@news.cybercity.dk>, Laura <la...@secret.dk>
writes
Correct.

Matt W

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In article <7t3970$gfe$3...@nclient11-gui.server.virgin.net>, Sneakyfish
<sneak...@madasafish.com> writes

>
>Matt Dibb <matt...@cwcom.net> wrote in message
>news:37F26BF4...@cwcom.net...
>>
>>
>> Laura wrote:
>>
>> > And, while you're at it, don't dump the ferrous sulfide (FeS) in the
>> > hydrochloric acid (HCl) in a well hidden place at your school, unless
>you'd
>> > like school to be prematurely out that day ;-)
>> >
>> > To produce ferrous sulfide, mix powdered sulphur with powdered iron
>(equal
>> > weight), and burn. Residue is ferrous sulfide.
>> > The hydrochloric acid should be the standard 30% one which is widely
>> > available.
>> > Kids, don't try this at home ;-)
>>
>>
>> Also, don't attempt to make your own nitrous oxide injector for you car
>> and either blow it up of kill yourself as the suspension breaks and the
>> transmission melts...
>
>Hi. I know sod all about chemistry. However, if anyone stumbles accross a
>way to turn tap water into gold during this conversation I'd love to hear
>about it.
>Cheers.
>
>
Well actually.........

:)

Sneakyfish

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> Sneakyfish wrote:
> >
> >Hi. I know sod all about chemistry. However, if anyone stumbles accross
a
> >way to turn tap water into gold during this conversation I'd love to hear
> >about it.
> >Cheers.
>
>
> Easy! Use nanotechnology to disassemble the atoms in the water into its
> constituent nuclear particles, and then assemble gold atoms from them.
> Should nanotech be unavailable in your local area, you might split the
> hydrogen from the oxygen in the water using electricity, and then
repeatedly
> use fusion reactions to eventually build gold atoms, although this is the
> more labor-intensive method. Best of luck!
>
> Laura

Dammit. I could kick myself. So simple it was starring me in the face all
along.

Just out of interest, do you have any method for turning a bug ridden space
adventuring computer game into a gaming milestone of awe inspiring
proportions? ;-)

Cheers again,
Dan...

Laura

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Sneakyfish wrote:

>Just out of interest, do you have any method for turning a bug ridden space
>adventuring computer game into a gaming milestone of awe inspiring
>proportions? ;-)
>

I'm sorry, but I'll have to disappoint you on that one - it simply cannot be
done. The best you can do is to play it anyway, and use your imagination to
explain away the bugs.

Laura

Robert Pfeifer

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Through a fractal on a breaking wall, I see r...@i.am (Robert Pfeifer)
write:

}It was a solid fuel takeoff assist rocket - once lit, no stopping 'em.
}They use them to get large cargo planes in the air on short army
}runways.

Otherwise known as JATOs.

Robert Pfeifer

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Through a fractal on a breaking wall, I see "Louis J.M"
<Lou...@BellSouth.Net> write:

}In article <37f7b27e...@news.cis.dfn.de> , r...@i.am (Robert Pfeifer) wrote:
}>Through a fractal on a breaking wall, I see r...@i.am (Robert Pfeifer)
}>write:
}>
}>}It was a solid fuel takeoff assist rocket - once lit, no stopping 'em.
}>}They use them to get large cargo planes in the air on short army
}>}runways.
}>
}>Otherwise known as JATOs.
}
}Talking to yourself, Refiefp?

Guarantees intelligent conversation!

Vernon Moorhouse

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Snip
>No, he's right - this reaction is used to weld railway tracks together.
> A quick angle-grind later to remove the bump, and it's done.
>
Snip

Welded rail - yuck.

Give me good old jointed track anytime, clickety clack rules okay.

Hello uk.railway here, have you seen a deranged lunatic in an anorak
running round, here now good boy....

Sorry this was hopelessly OT.
--
Vern

Louis J.M

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In article <37f7b27e...@news.cis.dfn.de> , r...@i.am (Robert Pfeifer) wrote:

>Through a fractal on a breaking wall, I see r...@i.am (Robert Pfeifer)
>write:
>
>}It was a solid fuel takeoff assist rocket - once lit, no stopping 'em.
>}They use them to get large cargo planes in the air on short army
>}runways.
>
>Otherwise known as JATOs.
>

>Rob

Talking to yourself, Refiefp?

.-~~-.____ Louis J.M
/ | ' \
( ) O _
\_/-, ,----' // E-Mail: Lou...@BellSouth.net
==== ___// WWW : Coming Soon!
/ \-'~; /~~~(O)----------------------------------------------------
/ __/~| __/ |I cannot believe that God plays dice with the cosmos.
==(______| (_________|

Graham 'Jades' Thurlwell

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Sneakyfish wrote:

<snip>

> Hi. I know sod all about chemistry. However, if anyone stumbles accross a
> way to turn tap water into gold during this conversation I'd love to hear
> about it.

Buy a privatised water company ;-)

Chris Burnett

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Matt Dibb <matt...@cwcom.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> Maury Markowitz wrote:
> >
> > Brian....@unforgettable.com (Brian Ronald) wrote in
> > <vhv2t7...@bronald.unisonfree.net>:

> >
> > >In article <37f3596b...@news.freeserve.net>,
> > > rober...@bigfoot.com (Robert J. Baker) writes:
> > >> In Private Eye a few Christmasses ago, I read an allegedly-true story
> > >> about some pillock (American, of course -- who else would be so
daft?)
> > >> who attached a jet engine to his car
> >
> > Urban rumor. Who's the daft one now?
>
> Obviously you, as this need not have been fact. It sums up the world's
> general opinion of American citizen's intelligence levels. Removing
> evolution from the ciriculum - are they mad?! What next? 'Quick, exile
> the scientists before they enlighten our religiously blinded and staid
> minds!'

Nah, they do that all the time. It's only when they leave school and meet a
'foreigner' that they realize that there is land outside of the US :)

Chris Burnett
http://zap.to/frontier
Frenzy!

> > And actually it was a JATO bottle, not a jet engine. At least get the
> > rumor right,
>
> You sound even more daft now by first saying it was a rumor, and then
> correcting what is allegedly false.
>
> > there's enough stupidity in the world as it is, you could at
> > least take the time to copy it down properly.
>
> There is enough stupidity in your reply.

Robert Pfeifer

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Through a fractal on a breaking wall, I see Matt Dibb
<matt...@cwcom.net> write:
}Maury Markowitz wrote:

}> And actually it was a JATO bottle, not a jet engine. At least get the
}> rumor right,
}
}You sound even more daft now by first saying it was a rumor, and then
}correcting what is allegedly false.

And besides, a JATO is a solid state rocket IIRC.

John Jordan

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Robert Pfeifer <r...@i.am> wrote:
>Through a fractal on a breaking wall, I see Matt Dibb
><matt...@cwcom.net> write:
>}Maury Markowitz wrote:
>
>}> And actually it was a JATO bottle, not a jet engine. At least get the
>}> rumor right,
>}
>}You sound even more daft now by first saying it was a rumor, and then
>}correcting what is allegedly false.
>
>And besides, a JATO is a solid state rocket IIRC.

Are you implying that the definition of jet engines includes solid-fuel
rockets? Hmm.

In general, use of the term "Jet engine" is restricted to gas turbines
and ramjets, ie. propulsion systems that make use of atmospheric oxygen.
Hence a JATO would be a rocket rather than a jet engine.

It's a common usage point though, because any propulsion device that
expels a jet of fluid could reasonably be called a jet engine.


--
John Jordan

Robert Pfeifer

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Through a fractal on a breaking wall, I see John Jordan

<jo...@jaj22.demon.co.uk> write:
}Robert Pfeifer <r...@i.am> wrote:
}>Through a fractal on a breaking wall, I see Matt Dibb
}><matt...@cwcom.net> write:
}>}Maury Markowitz wrote:
}>
}>}> And actually it was a JATO bottle, not a jet engine. At least get the
}>}> rumor right,
}>}
}>}You sound even more daft now by first saying it was a rumor, and then
}>}correcting what is allegedly false.
}>
}>And besides, a JATO is a solid state rocket IIRC.
}
}Are you implying that the definition of jet engines includes solid-fuel
}rockets? Hmm.

Well, call me a cretin and colour me purple. I didn't think of that.

lutonk...@gmail.com

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On Monday, 27 September 1999 17:00:00 UTC+10, Tom Morton wrote:
> Robin Johnson <ro...@NO-SPAM.nondescript.f9.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:93gH3.4191$cm.105563@wards...
> >
> > He thought to himself
> > "How did I get up here?
> > I thought that the Russians
> > Had abandoned the Mir.
> > Without attitude jets
> > To keep Mir on its path
> > It looks like I'll be taking
> > A warm plasma bath.
> >
> > "I wish that I knew
> > How to keep this thing up!
> > Instead I'll be fried
> > Like a Labrador pup.
> > Yes, I'll be reduced
> > To charred, freeze-dried granules,
> > Just like those unfortunate
> > Soviet spaniels."
> >
> > Sure enough, as the base
> > With its one solemn sentry
> > Strayed from its orbit
> > And plunged to re-entry,
> > His last living moments
> > Were less than enjoyed.
> > The hull ruptured, and out he popped
> > Into the void.
> >
> > In the vaccuum outside
> > The decrepit space station
> > He died nice and slowly
> > Of asphyxiation.
>
> NO! Your blood boils and you die looking like a kipper! I'll prove it...
> Now all I need is 200ml of mercury and something to melt pyrex glass
> with...
>
> > This is what happens
> > To idiots who
> > Follow up spam.
> > Louis, this means you.
>
> Are you in your strange new home yet?
>
>
> --
> Yikes Station: The Best Frontier Elite 2 Website
> http://www.yikesstation.freeserve.co.uk/frontier/yikes.htm
>
> Tom 'Moretom' Morton

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