If you're a facultative biped...
Draco18s
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Tathar
wrote:
You know me. *stands*
Fledgling Raquiri
wrote:
> Please stand up.
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Um... I really couldn't say.
Dafydd Edward Dragon
*sits down leaning back on his haunches* ..no bipedness for me.. x.x
-Dafydd Edward Dragon
Tathar
If you're a biped AND a quadriped, chances are you're a facultative
biped.
Fledgling Raquiri
>
> - Show quoted text -
Well, I'm practicing walking on all fours and my dragon form can be
either. Does that count?
Tathar
> On Jul 27, 11:47 am, Tathar <tatharn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jul 27, 11:32 am, Fledgling Raquiri <raqu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jul 27, 2:01 am, Draco18s <draco18s@DOES_NOT_LIKE_SPAM_gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > Please stand up.
>
> > > > --
> > > > Lord Draco18s
> > > > - who learned a new word today
>
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> > > +++
> > > > Ac+ J+
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>
> > > > "Yum!" |> v-v-v-v |>
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> > > > ---W"W----'-'----'-'----'-'----------'--------------
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>
> > > Um... I really couldn't say.
>
> > biped.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Well, I'm practicing walking on all fours and my dragon form can be
> either. Does that count?
If your dragon form can utilize a bipedal gait and a quadrupedal gait,
then yes. Also, :\ at my misspelling of "quadruped" earlier. Fix'd.
Draco18s
@x25g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, tatha...@gmail.com says...
> On Jul 27, 11:32=A0am, Fledgling Raquiri <raqu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > =A0On Jul 27, 2:01=A0am, Draco18s <draco18s@DOES_NOT_LIKE_SPAM_gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > =A0> Please stand up.
>
> > Um... I really couldn't say.
>
> If you're a biped AND a quadriped, chances are you're a facultative
> biped.
>
Oh pfft. Now you've gone and ruined it. Last time it was "For those
who are caudated, raise said appendage." Managed to go a whole week
before someone explained it.
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Tathar
wrote:
> In article <f27b77e8-7c5e-46fa-aa07-f269aa30f688
> @x25g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, tatharn...@gmail.com says...
Heh, no one knows what a tail is either, I bet.
Draco18s
b20b5e...@n11g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, tatha...@gmail.com says...
> On Aug 26, 2:13=A0am, Draco18s <draco18s@DOES_NOT_LIKE_SPAM_gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > In article <f27b77e8-7c5e-46fa-aa07-f269aa30f688
> > @x25g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, tatharn...@gmail.com says...
> >
> > > > =3DA0On Jul 27, 2:01=3DA0am, Draco18s <draco18s@DOES_NOT_LIKE_SPAM_gm=
> ail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> >
> > > > =3DA0> Please stand up.
> >
> > > > Um... I really couldn't say.
> >
> > > If you're a biped AND a quadriped, chances are you're a facultative
> > > biped.
> >
> > who are caudated, raise said appendage." =A0Managed to go a whole week
> > before someone explained it.
>
No, we did. We just didn't say until the person who didn't know asked.
Simon Richard Clarkstone
> On Jul 27, 11:47 am, Tathar <tatharn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> If you're a biped AND a quadriped, chances are you're a facultative
>> biped.
>
> either. Does that count?
I don't think practice will help the fundamental problem that your legs
are too much longer than your arms and your neck isn't designed for it.
Good luck anyway though.
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Fledgling Raquiri
<s.r.clarkst...@dunelm.org.uk> wrote:
> Fledgling Raquiri wrote:
> > On Jul 27, 11:47 am, Tathar <tatharn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> If you're a biped AND a quadriped, chances are you're a facultative
> >> biped.
>
> > Well, I'm practicing walking on all fours and my dragon form can be
> > either. Does that count?
>
> I don't think practice will help the fundamental problem that your legs
> are too much longer than your arms and your neck isn't designed for it.
> Good luck anyway though.
>
> --
> Simon Richard Clarkstone:
> Citizen, listen: Kurt Vonnegut did not intend _The Euphio Question_
> as a resolution to the Fermi Paradox. (Even he wasn't that depressing.)
The leg thing isn't much of a problem. Rabbits and frogs have long
legs too. The neck part though, yes, that is the hard part.
Tathar
Rabbits and frogs hop. Not really the same.
Fledgling Raquiri
>
> - Show quoted text -
There's a technique to it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5YqI_PhxJ4
Dafydd Edward Dragon
Might I also point out that human legs are backwards.. your knee folds
the wrong direction, so walking/sitting can't be done like a quadruped
would. Also human legs have very differently designed knees/ankles/hips,
they don't operate the same way nor fold the same way which really
sucks. Also as pointed out already the human neck is attacked at a 90
degree angle so that the neutral position is looking forwards when
standing on two legs, on all fours you'd be looking upwards at max just
to barely look forwards. Humans are so weird aren't they?
-Dafydd Edward Dragon
Marrock
> Might I also point out that human legs are backwards.. your knee folds
> the wrong direction, so walking/sitting can't be done like a quadruped
> would. Also human legs have very differently designed knees/ankles/hips,
> they don't operate the same way nor fold the same way which really
> sucks. Also as pointed out already the human neck is attacked at a 90
> degree angle so that the neutral position is looking forwards when
> standing on two legs, on all fours you'd be looking upwards at max just
> to barely look forwards. Humans are so weird aren't they?
>
> -Dafydd Edward Dragon
Not weird, just very poorly designed.
Nothing I couldn't fix in the space of a couple generations.
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Lord Flame Stryke
news:h7n04p$fgc$1...@aioe.org:
>>>> The leg thing isn't much of a problem. Rabbits and frogs have long
>>>> legs too. The neck part though, yes, that is the hard part.
>>> Rabbits and frogs hop. Not really the same.
>> There's a technique to it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5YqI_PhxJ4
> Might I also point out that human legs are backwards.. your knee
> folds the wrong direction, so walking/sitting can't be done like a
Not true. Quadruped legs are just proportioned differently than biped
legs. Look at a dog, for example. They have a hip connected through a
thigh to a knee, then a lower leg connected to a heel, then a foot
connected to a toe. All the same joints, in the same directions as a
human's, just the proportions are different.
Lord Flame Stryke
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Rhainor
> Dafydd Edward Dragon <-nospam-da...@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:h7n04p$fgc$1...@aioe.org:
>>
>> folds the wrong direction, so walking/sitting can't be done like a
>
> Not true. Quadruped legs are just proportioned differently than biped
> legs. Look at a dog, for example. They have a hip connected through a
> thigh to a knee, then a lower leg connected to a heel, then a foot
> connected to a toe. All the same joints, in the same directions as a
> human's, just the proportions are different.
>
>
>
> Lord Flame Stryke
Yup. The joint that points backward on a dog or cat (or any other
quadrupedal mammal besides pachyderms, as well as most birds) is not the
knee, it's the ankle. They walk on their toes, hence the term
"digitigrade".
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Draco18s
318a48...@m7g2000prd.googlegroups.com>, raq...@gmail.com says...
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DS5YqI_PhxJ4
Link doesn't work for me. YouTube says it's a malformed video ID.
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Kalos Kalyre
> In article <68072c72-fe8d-4572-a120-
> 318a48...@m7g2000prd.googlegroups.com>, raq...@gmail.com says...
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DS5YqI_PhxJ4
>
> Link doesn't work for me. YouTube says it's a malformed video ID.
It works for me. Try going to YouTube and searching for a video called
"Quadrupedal Locomotion" uploaded by jusres.
Tathar
> Draco18s wrote:
> > In article <68072c72-fe8d-4572-a120-
> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DS5YqI_PhxJ4
>
> > Link doesn't work for me. YouTube says it's a malformed video ID.
>
> It works for me. Try going to YouTube and searching for a video called
> "Quadrupedal Locomotion" uploaded by jusres.
Yeah, the link's definitely bad. Last I checked, Youtube video IDs
had 11 characters, not 13. Also, Youtube says it's bad so it must
be. Try the link itself, not what you copied to here.
Rhainor
> In article <68072c72-fe8d-4572-a120-
> 318a48...@m7g2000prd.googlegroups.com>, raq...@gmail.com says...
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DS5YqI_PhxJ4
>
> Link doesn't work for me. YouTube says it's a malformed video ID.
Try this:
http://tr.im/y5zF
Same link, run through tr.im. Sometimes links get broken by e-mail/news
readers for no apparent reason.
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Fledgling Raquiri
> Draco18s wrote:
> > In article <68072c72-fe8d-4572-a120-
> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DS5YqI_PhxJ4
>
> > Link doesn't work for me. YouTube says it's a malformed video ID.
>
> Try this:http://tr.im/y5zF
>
> Same link, run through tr.im. Sometimes links get broken by e-mail/news
> readers for no apparent reason.
>
> --
>
> Rhainor
That one seems to work.
Tathar
> Draco18s wrote:
> > In article <68072c72-fe8d-4572-a120-
> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DS5YqI_PhxJ4
>
> > Link doesn't work for me. YouTube says it's a malformed video ID.
>
> Try this:http://tr.im/y5zF
>
> Same link, run through tr.im. Sometimes links get broken by e-mail/news
> readers for no apparent reason.
>
> --
>
> Rhainor
Yeah, that Youtube link isn't the same as the one you linked earlier.
You added a "3D" to the beginning of the video ID for some reason.
Rhainor
Simon Richard Clarkstone
> On Sep 7, 10:32 am, Rhainor <rhai...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Draco18s wrote:
>>> In article <68072c72-fe8d-4572-a120-
>>> 318a48037...@m7g2000prd.googlegroups.com>, raqu...@gmail.com says...
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DS5YqI_PhxJ4
>>> Link doesn't work for me. YouTube says it's a malformed video ID.
>> Try this:http://tr.im/y5zF
>>
>> Same link, run through tr.im. Sometimes links get broken by e-mail/news
>> readers for no apparent reason.
>
> You added a "3D" to the beginning of the video ID for some reason.
Ah, the wonders of cocked-up quoted-printable. Quoted-printable encodes
most characters as themselves, but some whitespace and unusual
characters get encoded as an equals followed by their hex code.
Obviously equals has to be encoded that way too, as equals-3-D.
Isn't it great how that interacts with key-value pairs in URLs?
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Lord Flame Stryke
news:tNOdnewWnNnEoTHX...@giganews.com:
>> Yeah, that Youtube link isn't the same as the one you linked earlier.
>> You added a "3D" to the beginning of the video ID for some reason.
> Ah, the wonders of cocked-up quoted-printable. Quoted-printable
> encodes most characters as themselves, but some whitespace and unusual
> characters get encoded as an equals followed by their hex code.
> Obviously equals has to be encoded that way too, as equals-3-D.
> Isn't it great how that interacts with key-value pairs in URLs?
In URLs, the hex code equivalent is preceeded by a percent sign (as in %
7E, which equals the tilde (~) symbol..... You can encode almost any
part of the URL in this way, but as it tends to make the URL 3 times
longer, I don't see how that's a benefit.....
Lord Flame Stryke
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Lkuznac Acigt-x
> Dafydd Edward Dragon <-nospam-da...@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:h7n04p$fgc$1...@aioe.org:
>
>>> There's a technique to it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5YqI_PhxJ4
>> Might I also point out that human legs are backwards.. your knee
>> folds the wrong direction, so walking/sitting can't be done like a
>
> Not true. Quadruped legs are just proportioned differently than biped
> legs. Look at a dog, for example. They have a hip connected through a
> thigh to a knee, then a lower leg connected to a heel, then a foot
> connected to a toe. All the same joints, in the same directions as a
> human's, just the proportions are different.
That arrangement is a hack. Evolution is too short-range-assessing and
has a too-limited range of moves to improve leg design to retrograde
knees. Kigdatsi are designed, so I have retrograde knees, so the
primary joint of my back legs is retrograde and my hand-capability is
for my back legs almost as much as for my forelegs unlike natural
vertebrates (which either have four hands or have retrograde primary
back leg joints).
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Simon Richard Clarkstone
> Simon Richard Clarkstone <s.r.cla...@dunelm.org.uk> wrote in
> news:tNOdnewWnNnEoTHX...@giganews.com:
>
>>> Yeah, that Youtube link isn't the same as the one you linked earlier.
>>> You added a "3D" to the beginning of the video ID for some reason.
>> Ah, the wonders of cocked-up quoted-printable. Quoted-printable
>> encodes most characters as themselves, but some whitespace and unusual
>> characters get encoded as an equals followed by their hex code.
>> Obviously equals has to be encoded that way too, as equals-3-D.
>> Isn't it great how that interacts with key-value pairs in URLs?
>
> In URLs, the hex code equivalent is preceeded by a percent sign (as in %
> 7E, which equals the tilde (~) symbol..... You can encode almost any
> part of the URL in this way, but as it tends to make the URL 3 times
> longer, I don't see how that's a benefit.....
I wasn't talking about that. My point was that (Youtube) URLs often
have equals signs in them, and quoted-printable encodes that as
equals-3-D, so failing to decode QP will result in (Youtube) URLs that
look plausible but are actually wrong, as happened earlier in this thread.
Also, I already know how URL encoding works.