Quiet...what ya all reading?
Steve Zielinski
here, I'm kinda sad. Though I really only lurk, I love the conversations that
occur in here. So...
What's everyone reading right now?
I needed a little break from DL (where I'm playing catchup and reading the
Chaos War series) and have picked up _Lost Souls_ by Poppy Z Brite. I have
about 70 pages left, and I'm really enjoying it, though I do have a few points
I don't like about it. I may reread _Stranger in a Strange Land_ before
heading back over to DL.
Anyway...
Discuss among yourselves while I go back to lurking.
Steve
Elizabeth
>What's everyone reading right now?
>
>I needed a little break from DL (where I'm playing catchup and reading the
>Chaos War series) and have picked up _Lost Souls_ by Poppy Z Brite. I have
>about 70 pages left, and I'm really enjoying it, though I do have a few points
>I don't like about it. I may reread _Stranger in a Strange Land_ before
>heading back over to DL.
I'm about halfway through Cryptonomicon by Neal Stephenson, also reading vol. 4
of Akira, and I just started Freedom and Necessity by Steven Brust and Emma
Bull.
And I've read Lost Souls and had mixed feelings about it myself :)
Elizabeth, book and comic junkie
Starbuck
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> I have to admit that when I check my newsgroups, and see nothing going on
in
> here, I'm kinda sad. Though I really only lurk, I love the conversations
that
> occur in here. So...
>
> What's everyone reading right now?
Darksword Trilogy, the first book. I'm having trouble getting into it right
now, but I'm sure it will pick up as I go.
Pat McCluskey
>What's everyone reading right now?
I'm a third of the way through <u>The Map That Changed the World</u> right now,
all about the birth of modern geology (hooray for civil eng-geo double
majors!). Next up is Lord of the Rings, which I have not read. I planned on
seeing all the movies before reading the books, but couldn't resist when I
found a paperback compilation edition. After that I have <u>The Sagas of
Icelanders</u>.
None of the newish DL books have sparked my interest, so I will probably reread
Rose of the Prophet while I wait for the new Jeff Shaara book to come out.
Patrick
"And still we have faith--faith in your might
In each bright weapon in the far-flung fight
And in the blood of weary men
Who take the coral beaches back again"
-Lieutenant Henry Lee, Bataan Death March POW, KIA
Raama
There simply isn't much to discuss anymore, at least from my perspective,
besides
the future of DL as both a gaming world and the new threats facing Krynn
(notably
the Minotaurs).
The other major reason is the total lack of consistent quality. While a
handful of
the authors put out some good stuff, a majority writes in a style that
doesn't suit me.
I simply can't get "pulled into" the story. I don't need to rehash old
arguments, everyone knows
the talking points. You can defend till you turn blue, but no one wins an
argument that is based
on subjective values.
In my view, DL must advance considerably as a gaming world or risk failure.
I appreciated
the efforts of the 5th Age Saga system, but it was doomed to fail because:
1) The system was expensive, considering the substance and quality of
materials.
2) It relied on the long-term strength of the "Magic: The Gathering" fad in
its style and play mechanics.
3) Many of Krynn's unique and advantageous elements were eliminated by the
5th Age (Orders of
Magic, Clerical Orders, draconians as canon fodder, balance of power, three
Moons, etc.). What was left was a relatively unappealing and static gaming
world that was restricted by the power of the big 5 chromatic Overlords. In
making the Overlords extraordinarily powerful while weakening clerics and
wizards, the system in effect made the Overlords invincible.
4) Sorcery and mysticism was alienating to many of the AD&D faithful -
things like saving throws became irrelevant and "creating your own spell"
was too inferior because of the mathematics and limited number of spheres of
magic allowed.
5) Continued reliance on the Heroes of the Lance (or their progeny) to
progress storylines. This both strains logic and makes it more difficult to
create new heroes.
What needs to happen is a revitalization of Krynn and its population -
heroes and adventurers need to come from other places besides Solamnia or
Solace. The Knights (Solamnia or Neraka) should not be illustrated as
composing an army, but only as the leaders or elite composites of large
forces of regulars. This makes them more valuable and more special. The
clerics and wizards should reclaim their positions of uniqueness and
greatness with institutions and power - opposite the democratic
opportunities provided by mysticism or sorcery. Kender should be restored
as halfling fillers instead of victims, and I would finally incorporate the
continent of Taladas within the Krynnish world.
DL needs to be saved or it will just fade.
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'Ghost Rider' by Neil Peart. An account of his 55,000 mile journey after
losing both his wife and daughter within a span of 10 months. Absolutely
incredible. Emotional and inspiring.
I'm also in the middle of a couple:
Neal Stepheson's 'The Diamond Age' - good but not his best
Robert Jordan's 'Winter's Heart' - these books have become tiring
On deck:
Edward Abbey's 'The Monkey Wrench Gange'
Jack Londons 'Sea Wolf' and 'Martin Eden'
Can't wait to start both.
Ciao
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into a cohesive story and excellent climax.
Enjoy!
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Kaithan Kanathar
Christopher Rowley. Pretty good read overall and the final book in the
series will be out in December. Fans of George R.R. Martin or Glen Cook
would like these.
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> here, I'm kinda sad. Though I really only lurk, I love the conversations
that
> occur in here. So...
>
> What's everyone reading right now?
>
Terry Pratchett's Feet Of Clay. After the disappointment that was DoVM, I
needed something to make me laugh.
Graham
The Second
it's ok, but so far i am not thrilled, too similar to Tolkien
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> I needed a little break from DL (where I'm playing catchup and reading the
> Chaos War series) and have picked up _Lost Souls_ by Poppy Z Brite.
Oooh. That *is* a change of pace.
I'm reading _The Lightstone_ by David Zindell. I'm about 200 pages in.
It's a compelling fantasy, although I'm seeing strong similarities
between the main character and Danlo wi Mallory Ringess, the
protagonist of ZIndell's SF _A Requiem for Homo Sapiens_ (an excellent
trilogy).
james o'rance
sigless while at work
Craig J. Ries
>
> 2) It relied on the long-term strength of the "Magic: The Gathering" fad in
> its style and play mechanics.
It's amazing that this one is brought up so much. It seems a bit of
coincidence to me more than fact, atleast imo :)
>
> 3) Many of Krynn's unique and advantageous elements were eliminated by the
> 5th Age
Eliminated by Dragons of Summer Flame, NOT the 5th Age.
Amazing how people consistently point the finger at the wrong group for
this one, as well.
> 4) Sorcery and mysticism was alienating to many of the AD&D faithful -
> things like saving throws became irrelevant and "creating your own spell"
> was too inferior because of the mathematics and limited number of spheres of
> magic allowed.
Considering that SAGA is NOT D&D, why should things like saving throws
and other D&D-related things be relevant in the first place?
As for inferiority, that's debatable.
I don't think limiting a player's potential is a bad thing. Can't say I
wanna play with munchkins magic-users :)
> 5) Continued reliance on the Heroes of the Lance (or their progeny) to
> progress storylines. This both strains logic and makes it more difficult to
> create new heroes.
This one has certainly been stressed by some fans for years :)
> Kender should be restored as halfling fillers instead of victims,
Why bother? 3E already raped kender for all they were worth for halfings
:P
> and I would finally incorporate the continent of Taladas within the
> Krynnish world.
This, to a degree, will be done: W&P are to write a trilogy of books in
Taladas.
Hopefully an updated TotD will follow.
Craig J. Ries
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> Well, I just finished probably one of the best books I have ever read,
> 'Ghost Rider' by Neil Peart.
The Rush drummer? - didnt know he was a book writer...excellent lyricist tho
CiausCrispus
first was his account of his bicycle travels through Africa called the
Masked Rider.
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Elizabeth
> Cryptonomicon is terrific. Stephenson is great at weaving multiple plots
> into a cohesive story and excellent climax.
Yeah. I've read Snow Crash and liked that one a lot too :)
Rohan Tolstrup
wrote:
>I have to admit that when I check my newsgroups, and see nothing going on in
DoVM was a lowlight. I knew it was going to be bad from DoLS, but if
I were a masochist I'd have been surprisingly gratified at the deus ex
machina-dominated plot and using the 'prelude' trick of twisting canon
to avoid definitively breaking it. Don't feel too bad, Tom Clancy's
latest, Red Rabbit, was absolutely gagworthy, unless you happen to
share his loony-tune ultra-right worldview where Texas has a justice
system renowned for it's fairness, any form of free healthcare is bad
and not only inefficient but stupidly incompetent, Reagan's reign was
treated as Camelot and the cold war was morally black and white. I
also grabbed the latest Dale Brown book from the library, mostly from
morbid curiosity - yet another hack who's obviously vicariously living
through identical (when they vary) heroes which look suspiciously like
author avatars.
Have managed to consume some more worthwhile stuff since, a few Baen
books for example, from authors like David Weber, John Ringo and Eric
Flint (1632, about a small American town getting transplanted in time,
cover features armed rednecks in a pickup attacking medieval soldiers,
for example). I just read Weber's mammoth War of Honor, the latest
Honor Harrington book, that took seven hundred pages to get rolling,
but gave some satisfactorily massive carnage where you're rooting for
both sides. Came with a CD of about twenty other books, plus extras,
so worth the investment.
Also read Stars and Stripes Triumphant (finale of a Harry Harrison
trilogy about British intervention in the US Civil War turning into
WW1 fifty years early), which utterly rocked, even if I can't say I
liked the way utopia was achieved in the end.
Dammit, what's a liberal to do when he likes reading war novels?
Morten Brattbakk
> > 2) It relied on the long-term strength of the "Magic: The Gathering" fad in
> > its style and play mechanics.
>
> It's amazing that this one is brought up so much. It seems a bit of
> coincidence to me more than fact, atleast imo :)
That, I guess would be debatable forever. I have no love for DL
switching to SAGA, but I think that SAGA has as much in common with
Magic as D&D has with Yahtzee. However, it is still very probably that
TSR saw profit in a card-based RPG at the time, and chose SAGA partly
because of that.
> > 3) Many of Krynn's unique and advantageous elements were eliminated by the
> > 5th Age
>
> Eliminated by Dragons of Summer Flame, NOT the 5th Age.
> Amazing how people consistently point the finger at the wrong group for
> this one, as well.
BOTH Dragons of Summer Flame and the 5th Age eliminated them. And no
matter who did it, the point that the loss was a big problem and
alienated a lot of fans still stands (and firmly so).
> > 4) Sorcery and mysticism was alienating to many of the AD&D faithful -
> > things like saving throws became irrelevant and "creating your own spell"
> > was too inferior because of the mathematics and limited number of spheres of
> > magic allowed.
>
> Considering that SAGA is NOT D&D, why should things like saving throws
> and other D&D-related things be relevant in the first place?
You missed his point, Craig. SAGA as a system, including and perhaps
especially its magic system, alienated a lot of fans.
Morten
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> I have to admit that when I check my newsgroups, and see nothing going on
in
> here, I'm kinda sad. Though I really only lurk, I love the conversations
that
> occur in here. So...
>
> What's everyone reading right now?
Preludes, Volume three. Just finishen No 1 & 2.
Ming Lu
John Grubber
> news:20021016144210...@mb-fl.aol.com...
> > I have to admit that when I check my newsgroups, and see nothing going on
> in
> > here, I'm kinda sad. Though I really only lurk, I love the conversations
> that
> > occur in here. So...
> >
> > What's everyone reading right now?
Comic: League of extraordinary gentlemen volume 2
Book: Sherlock Holmes stuff
Non-Fiction: Jansons 'History of Western Art' and Boorstins 'the creators'
Raama
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> Raama wrote:
> >
> > 2) It relied on the long-term strength of the "Magic: The Gathering" fad
in
> > its style and play mechanics.
>
> It's amazing that this one is brought up so much. It seems a bit of
> coincidence to me more than fact, atleast imo :)
Of coures, only WotC has the files or evidence to prove or disprove this.
Regardless,
introducing a brand new card-based system at the time when "Magic" was very
popular
raises legitimate questions. There is nothing wrong with a card-based
system, but DL
was introduced as an AD&D system, and many of its fans were used to AD&D box
sets and rules. Creating a brand new system, including one that isn't
necessarily intutive,
is a questionable strategic move from a marketing perspective.
> >
> > 3) Many of Krynn's unique and advantageous elements were eliminated by
the
> > 5th Age
>
> Eliminated by Dragons of Summer Flame, NOT the 5th Age.
> Amazing how people consistently point the finger at the wrong group for
> this one, as well.
I think the combination of both are accountable for the mess. Regardless of
the culprit,
it puts DL at a crossroads because many of its special features (such as the
Moons of Magic, etc.)
are wiped out. You have to ask yourself, "what makes Krynn appealing (other
than its history and the HotL) when compared to other gaming world and
systems?" Chronicles and Legends can't carry
an entire gaming world.
> > 4) Sorcery and mysticism was alienating to many of the AD&D faithful -
> > things like saving throws became irrelevant and "creating your own
spell"
> > was too inferior because of the mathematics and limited number of
spheres of
> > magic allowed.
>
> Considering that SAGA is NOT D&D, why should things like saving throws
> and other D&D-related things be relevant in the first place?
I indirectly answered this above.
> As for inferiority, that's debatable.
> I don't think limiting a player's potential is a bad thing. Can't say I
> wanna play with munchkins magic-users :)
Of course, b/c DL was designed as a low-level RPG. But the magic system was
TOO weak in
an environment where the NPCs and monsters are so powerful. Balance was an
issue.
> > 5) Continued reliance on the Heroes of the Lance (or their progeny) to
> > progress storylines. This both strains logic and makes it more
difficult to
> > create new heroes.
>
> This one has certainly been stressed by some fans for years :)
And NEVER EVER getting across to the powers that be. HotL or progeny still
manage to
save the day.
> > Kender should be restored as halfling fillers instead of victims,
>
> Why bother? 3E already raped kender for all they were worth for halfings
> :P
I won't dispute that.
JSinton
wrote:
>What's everyone reading right now?
Just finished parts 1 & 2 of George R.R. Martin's 'A Song of Fire and
Ice' and eagerly waiting for the part 3 to drop in my mailbox...
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Steve Zielinski
I liked Snow Crash too. You'll have to tell me how Cryptonomicon is when ya
finish it. That one's on the shelf waiting for me.
Steve
Christian Brahe Jensen
again again again again again again again again again again) and well hmm, I
guess I'm reading Brother of the Dragon as well... heh, so that's three...
and much more to go. I guess I'm reading to many things right now but its
okay, it's all good. :)
Christian
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shelf much longer.
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>
>
(11 books) then sped through Talon of the Silver Hawk by Raymond E. Fiest in
a day. I currently have about 30 pages left in The Lioness.
Other books on my list to read this month (in order):
The Thousand Orcs by R. A. Salvatore
The Golden Fool by Robin Hobb (whenever amazon.co.uk decides to ship it)
The Once and Future King by T. H. White
The Divine Hammer by Chris Pierson
Shadows and Light by Anne Bishop
The Summoning by Troy Denning
Wizard's First Rule by Terry Goodkind (then the rest of the books if i like
it)
The Silmarillion by Tolkien (read the Hobbit and LotR 8 years ago but I've
still never gotten around to this)
Next month (pending publication)
Night Watch by Terry Pratchett
Crossroads of Twilight by Robert Jordan
When Dragons Rage by Michael Stackpole
Margaret Weis
> I have to admit that when I check my newsgroups, and see nothing going on in
> here, I'm kinda sad. Though I really only lurk, I love the conversations that
> occur in here. So...
>
>
>
I'm reading the Forsyte Saga by John Galsworthy and loving it!
Margaret
Steve Zielinski
<snip>
>When Dragons Rage by Michael Stackpole
Does this follow Fortess Draconis? (I _think_ that's what it was called?)
Steve
Nadia Kowalyk
> I have to admit that when I check my newsgroups, and see nothing going on in
> here, I'm kinda sad. Though I really only lurk, I love the conversations that
> occur in here. So...
>
> What's everyone reading right now?
>
> Chaos War series) and have picked up _Lost Souls_ by Poppy Z Brite. I have
> about 70 pages left, and I'm really enjoying it, though I do have a few points
> I don't like about it. I may reread _Stranger in a Strange Land_ before
> heading back over to DL.
>
> Anyway...
> Discuss among yourselves while I go back to lurking.
>
> Steve
Nothing, I'm too god damn busy.
James O'Rance
> The Silmarillion by Tolkien (read the Hobbit and LotR 8 years ago but I've
> still never gotten around to this)
It's an ambitious read, but I found it worthwhile. Much more
interesting than The Hobbit, in my opinion.
cheers,
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> >From: "Mr. \"S\"" mr...@usa.com
>
> >When Dragons Rage by Michael Stackpole
>
> Does this follow Fortess Draconis? (I _think_ that's what it was called?)
>
> Steve
Yes. Publication date is set at November 26. Make sure to read the Dark
Glory War prequel if you haven't already.
Steve Zielinski
>> Does this follow Fortess Draconis? (I _think_ that's what it was called?)
>>
>> Steve
>
>Yes. Publication date is set at November 26. Make sure to read the Dark
>Glory War prequel if you haven't already.
I actually have both books sitting on the shelf waiting for me. I became a fan
of Stackpole's with his writing in the Battletech universe. Have you read any
of his other, non-shared world fiction? If you have, how is it?
Steve
Mr. "S"
Noble and liked the title Dark Glory War so i glanced through the book and
bought it.
Dragonlancelot
wrote:
>I have to admit that when I check my newsgroups, and see nothing going on in
>here, I'm kinda sad. Though I really only lurk, I love the conversations that
>occur in here. So...
>
>What's everyone reading right now?
Just two days ago I discovered that Ursula Le Guin had written another
Earthsea book, called The Other Wind. So of course I had to run immediately
to the library and borrow it. I then proceeded to devour it in one day. I
loved it.
Next up is Lord Foul's Bane. Everyone else seems to have read it, and it
seems to get called a classic quite often, so I figured I'd better give it
a go.
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>I have to admit that when I check my newsgroups, and see nothing going on in
>here, I'm kinda sad. Though I really only lurk, I love the conversations that
>occur in here. So...
*smack*
you make a post about this, then there's 20+ new messages a day.
yeesh. i'm busy enough so i didn't mind the slow pace! :D
>What's everyone reading right now?
i read a *really* bad forensic / mystery novel, and i was quite
ticked. so i asked my boyfriend to pick out my next book to read out
of the stack that i'm working through, and he picked a DL book. but
because i've been so busy with trying to get this apartment organized,
it's taking me forever. so presently i'm reading "bertrem's guide to
the war of the souls", which is much better than "guide to the age of
mortals".
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> I am reading the Sword of Shannara,
> it's ok, but so far i am not thrilled, too similar to Tolkien
But it's classic man!
I'll admit, there's better fantasy out there, but The Sword of Shannara will
always hold a place in my heart simply because its what got me into fantasy.
Starbuck
> > 4) Sorcery and mysticism was alienating to many of the AD&D faithful -
> > things like saving throws became irrelevant and "creating your own
spell"
> > was too inferior because of the mathematics and limited number of
spheres of
> > magic allowed.
>
> Considering that SAGA is NOT D&D, why should things like saving throws
> and other D&D-related things be relevant in the first place?
>
> As for inferiority, that's debatable.
> I don't think limiting a player's potential is a bad thing. Can't say I
> wanna play with munchkins magic-users :)
I'll admit the clerics could get a little ridiculous, but the mages were
fairly weak in comparison to other realms. They have to chose an order, and
they are limited in the spells they cast by that order. The only benefit
they receive is if their moon is at full, and only then do they get bonus
spells. It's like a watered down standard 2nd Ed. Specialist mage. Not to
mention the test can kill the mage... I've lost two mages that way.
The Second
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>I am reading the Sword of Shannara,
>it's ok, but so far i am not thrilled, too similar to Tolkien
Let me answer to my own post.
I finished it and I am not very impressed at all.
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Mist of Nights
>
:P), Assamites (Dark Age: Vampire novel), Chronicles of Narnia (yeah i
know..pretty childish so far..but hey its a classic or so i've heard)
James O'Rance
> Just two days ago I discovered that Ursula Le Guin had written another
> Earthsea book, called The Other Wind. So of course I had to run immediately
> to the library and borrow it.
Oh, you make me feel so guilty... I haven't even read Tehanu yet...
and A Wizard of Earthsea was my first fantasy novel.
Have you read Le Guin's Earthsea short stories?
Earlier this year I read her recent SF book, "The Telling." It's one
of her thoughtful novels, in the same setting as "The Dispossessed"
and "The Left Hand of Darkness" (my best friend and I refer to them as
Hainish books, after the humans of Hain). I very much enjoyed it. :)
> Next up is Lord Foul's Bane.
Is that Donaldson? I haven't looked at those yet. I liked his
Mordant's Need books though (there were two of them, refreshingly
short when fantasy usually has trilogies or longer series!)
Steve Zielinski
>Hmm...The emperor of the rats, Shards (Lasombra Clan Novel trilogy
>:P), Assamites (Dark Age: Vampire novel), Chronicles of Narnia (yeah i
>know..pretty childish so far..but hey its a classic or so i've heard)
I'll be reading the Vampnovels, but I always wait for the whole set to be out.
Steve
Dragonlancelot
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>srdunst...@hotmail.com (Dragonlancelot) wrote:
>
>> Just two days ago I discovered that Ursula Le Guin had written another
>> Earthsea book, called The Other Wind. So of course I had to run immediately
>> to the library and borrow it.
>
>Oh, you make me feel so guilty... I haven't even read Tehanu yet...
Tehanu was quite an interesting read. It's a lot more sedate than the first
three, and not a lot seems to happen, but I still really enjoyed it.
>and A Wizard of Earthsea was my first fantasy novel.
Mine too. I remember reading it on holiday while camping near the beach in
autumn. The environment and atmosphere really added a lot to my enjoyment
of that book.
>Have you read Le Guin's Earthsea short stories?
I've currently got the book that has them all in it on hold at the library.
Hopefully it'll be in soon. I don't know how, but I never knew that book
existed either.
>Earlier this year I read her recent SF book, "The Telling." It's one
>of her thoughtful novels, in the same setting as "The Dispossessed"
>and "The Left Hand of Darkness" (my best friend and I refer to them as
>Hainish books, after the humans of Hain). I very much enjoyed it. :)
I should get around to reading them sometime. They're on the "to be read"
list.
>> Next up is Lord Foul's Bane.
>
>Is that Donaldson? I haven't looked at those yet. I liked his
>Mordant's Need books though (there were two of them, refreshingly
>short when fantasy usually has trilogies or longer series!)
Yes, that's Donaldson. Lord Foul's Bane and the other two in the trilogy
were on my list as well, and when I saw it at the library, I figured I may
as well get it as well.
Starbuck
> On Wed, 16 Oct 2002 20:26:48 GMT, these...@mail.com (The Second)
> wrote:
>
> >I am reading the Sword of Shannara,
> >it's ok, but so far i am not thrilled, too similar to Tolkien
>
> Let me answer to my own post.
> I finished it and I am not very impressed at all.
I know this is extremely OT... but what did you find wrong with it?
Starbuck
"Mr. "S"" <mr...@usa.com> wrote in message news:ZWOr9.459$F4.166@fe03...
> "Steve Zielinski" <zsaz...@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
> news:20021016144210...@mb-fl.aol.com...
> Wizard's First Rule by Terry Goodkind (then the rest of the books if i
like
> it)
IMO, Wizards First Rule shows how much potential Terry Goodkind has as a
writer. It is by far one of the best books I have ever read.
Unfortunatly it's all downhill from there... each successive book gets
crappier and crappier (although I will admit that Faith of the Fallen was a
plesant bump in the road).
I've been forced to resign myself to paperback only where Mr. Goodkind is
concerned... not worth my cash to buy a hardcover I will never re-read.
Richard Moore
wrote:
>I have to admit that when I check my newsgroups, and see nothing going on in
>here, I'm kinda sad. Though I really only lurk, I love the conversations that
>occur in here. So...
>
>What's everyone reading right now?
I went to the library last week to get some stuff for a
research paper and came back with more non-educational material than
I'd hoped. The highlight of this week's literary crack: Carpe Jugulum,
by Terry Pratchett. I don't really like Discworld that much on the
whole (Pratchett's style is great, but his attention to detail can be
daunting at times), but this one was good, a great comedic play on the
fantasy ideals of vampires and witches. Highly recommended for
self-loathing gothic types and vampire lore geeks.