...hi!
John Coxon
So what's new?
Did anyone actually enjoy the Eoin Colfer book?
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Sid
> Wow, this place gets a lot of spam.
>
> So what's new?
>
> Did anyone actually enjoy the Eoin Colfer book?
I was underwhelmed. There were small parts which I enjoyed and then
there were large tracts that just felt like Eoin was trying too hard
to sound like DNA, which just reminded me that he wasn't and that this
book should probably never have been written.
On a minor, mathematical point, the absurdness of a 5-part trilogy was
just right. The sixth part provides a symmetry which ruins the effect.
Sid
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Tian
> * John Coxon [2010-05-09 20:19] [alt.fan.douglas-adams]:
>> Wow, this place gets a lot of spam.
>>
>> So what's new?
>>
>> Did anyone actually enjoy the Eoin Colfer book?
>
> I was underwhelmed. There were small parts which I enjoyed and then
> there were large tracts that just felt like Eoin was trying too hard
> to sound like DNA, which just reminded me that he wasn't and that this
> book should probably never have been written.
>
> On a minor, mathematical point, the absurdness of a 5-part trilogy was
> just right. The sixth part provides a symmetry which ruins the effect.
>
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Nemo
> Sid wrote:
> > * John Coxon [2010-05-09 20:19] [alt.fan.douglas-adams]:
> >> Wow, this place gets a lot of spam.
yes. :<
otoh, it's largely obnoxiously identifiable and so more easily ignored
than less obnoxious spam.
> >> So what's new?
*crickets chirp*
also, krikkets?
> >> Did anyone actually enjoy the Eoin Colfer book?
more or less, yes
I wrote about it here:
http://blog.thorx.net/2009/10/and-another-thing-a-review/
> > On a minor, mathematical point, the absurdness of a 5-part trilogy was
> > just right. The sixth part provides a symmetry which ruins the effect.
>
> Is that enough reason to further enhance the absurdness with a seventh part?
I'm in fact of the opinion that, should there be any further HHG books
written, they should all be the sixth part.
that is, multiple conflicting interpretations of "what happens next".
More than appopriate, no?
It's an idea which sits well with me - in fact, more well than just a
single non-conflicting interpretation built upon however-many books.
...and it ensures that every new sixth part builds from the work of
Adams' directly, rather than building from the work of Adams' + Colfer
+ whoever, etc...
.../Nemo
Tian
> On May 10, 3:22 pm, Tian <tnhar...@aceweb.com> wrote:
>> Sid wrote:
>>> * John Coxon [2010-05-09 20:19] [alt.fan.douglas-adams]:
>>>> Wow, this place gets a lot of spam.
>
> yes. :<
>
> otoh, it's largely obnoxiously identifiable and so more easily ignored
> than less obnoxious spam.
>
>
>>>> So what's new?
>
> *crickets chirp*
> also, krikkets?
>
>
>>>> Did anyone actually enjoy the Eoin Colfer book?
>
> more or less, yes
> I wrote about it here:
> http://blog.thorx.net/2009/10/and-another-thing-a-review/
>
>
>>> On a minor, mathematical point, the absurdness of a 5-part trilogy was
>>> just right. The sixth part provides a symmetry which ruins the effect.
>> Is that enough reason to further enhance the absurdness with a seventh part?
>
> I'm in fact of the opinion that, should there be any further HHG books
> written, they should all be the sixth part.
>
> that is, multiple conflicting interpretations of "what happens next".
> More than appopriate, no?
That's a great idea! It would be even better if they kill off a
different main character in each one, so you had to do the mental
gymnastics to realize they're all about different event spaces.
>
> It's an idea which sits well with me - in fact, more well than just a
> single non-conflicting interpretation built upon however-many books.
> ...and it ensures that every new sixth part builds from the work of
> Adams' directly, rather than building from the work of Adams' + Colfer
> + whoever, etc...
>
Also, it gives the casual browser that's never heard of the story
something unusual to think about while standing in the (bookstore?
library?) "Hmmm... Which part six should I read first?"
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Neil Gerace
> Is that enough reason to further enhance the absurdness with a seventh part?
>
They should go for nine. Six or eight would be too symmetrical, as Sid says. Seven is the number of Harry Potter books.
So that's out too.
Nemo
but nine would be a trilogy of trilogies.
Clearly they should aim for eleven ;)
.../Nemo
Sid
Nine would actually be trilogy as well. :-/
Six also reminds of the horror that is the second set of Star Wars
movies.
Sid
Nemo:
>> >> Did anyone actually enjoy the Eoin Colfer book?
> more or less, yes
> I wrote about it here:
> http://blog.thorx.net/2009/10/and-another-thing-a-review/
I should read this.
>> > On a minor, mathematical point, the absurdness of a 5-part trilogy was
>> > just right. The sixth part provides a symmetry which ruins the effect.
>>
>> Is that enough reason to further enhance the absurdness with a seventh part?
>
> I'm in fact of the opinion that, should there be any further HHG books
> written, they should all be the sixth part.
> that is, multiple conflicting interpretations of "what happens next".
> More than appopriate, no?
This is a fantastic idea. Two reasons:
a. It is just amazingly awesome and appropriate in many ways.
(including the way mentioned by Tian in the followup)
b. It reduces the 'canon' value of EC's work.
Nikitta
> * Neil Gerace [2010-05-11 08:59] [alt.fan.douglas-adams]:
>> Tian wrote:
>>
>>> Is that enough reason to further enhance the absurdness with a seventh part?
>>>
>> They should go for nine. Six or eight would be too symmetrical, as Sid says. Seven is the number of Harry Potter books.
>> So that's out too.
>
> Nine would actually be trilogy as well. :-/
>
> Six also reminds of the horror that is the second set of Star Wars
> movies.
>
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> Sid wrote:
> > * Neil Gerace [2010-05-11 08:59] [alt.fan.douglas-adams]:
> >> Tian wrote:
>
> >>> Is that enough reason to further enhance the absurdness with a seventh part?
>
> >> They should go for nine. Six or eight would be too symmetrical, as Sid says. Seven is the number of Harry Potter books.
> >> So that's out too.
>
> > Nine would actually be trilogy as well. :-/
>
> > Six also reminds of the horror that is the second set of Star Wars
> > movies.
>
> They should go for eleventeen!
>
Or twelvety
Jan van den Broek
John Coxon <john.coxon.n...@gmail.com> schrieb:
>Wow, this place gets a lot of spam.
Although a large part is absorbed by a SEP-field, at least here.
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I have a great .sig, but it won't fit at the end of this post.
-Fermat
Kie
>
> >Wow, this place gets a lot of spam.
>
> Although a large part is absorbed by a SEP-field, at least here.
> --
>
> I have a great .sig, but it won't fit at the end of this post.
> -Fermat
I'm using Google Groups on the very infrequent occasions I remember to
post here and it's packed!
It's reassuring to see familiar names popping up though when I do
visit :)
Strange to think I used to post about 20 posts a day here over ten
years ago, now I've finished college, DNA died, I started work and I'm
due to be married in under 2 weeks and I post once every six months.
Now I'm scared about how fast that time's gone. Best pick up the books
and pretend I'm 15 again!
Kie,
"Life, don't talk to me about life."
Kåre Fiedler Christiansen
<snip>
> I'm using Google Groups on the very infrequent occasions I remember to
> post here and it's packed!
I'm still using an actual news reader, but I think my posting frequency
may be measured in months these days...
> It's reassuring to see familiar names popping up though when I do visit
> :)
Likewise - you're one of the oldies that once in a while suddenly turn up
after a long absence...
> Strange to think I used to post about 20 posts a day here over ten years
> ago, now I've finished college, DNA died, I started work and I'm due to
> be married in under 2 weeks and I post once every six months.
Wait, what, married? Congratulations! Although I have to admit that to my
mind you are eternally stuck somewhere in the late teens, so there is no
way you can be old enough to be married :-) You should be partying and
waking up with traffic cones that you have no idea how you acquired.
Then again I guess by the same standards I should still be in my
early years as graduate student and be posting drunk to the group every
once in a while, instead of sitting here with my middle-class, father of
one-soon-to-be-two, subsuburban house life :-)
> Now I'm scared about how fast that time's gone. Best pick up the books
> and pretend I'm 15 again!
Much better :-) Did you remember to honour towel day (I forgot for the
first half of the day, actually, and knowing where my towel is after work
doesn't seem all too important...)
> Kie,
> "Life, don't talk to me about life."
Ah! Same old sig. I suppose you actually hand edit it for you few posts
in here?
Best,
Kåre
Rasmus Bøg Hansen
> On Sun, 23 May 2010 13:05:55 -0700, Kie wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> I'm using Google Groups on the very infrequent occasions I remember to
>> post here and it's packed!
>
> I'm still using an actual news reader, but I think my posting frequency
> may be measured in months these days...
>
>> It's reassuring to see familiar names popping up though when I do visit
>> :)
> Likewise - you're one of the oldies that once in a while suddenly turn up
> after a long absence...
>
>> Strange to think I used to post about 20 posts a day here over ten years
>> ago, now I've finished college, DNA died, I started work and I'm due to
>> be married in under 2 weeks and I post once every six months.
>
> Wait, what, married? Congratulations! Although I have to admit that to my
> mind you are eternally stuck somewhere in the late teens, so there is no
> way you can be old enough to be married :-) You should be partying and
> waking up with traffic cones that you have no idea how you acquired.
> Then again I guess by the same standards I should still be in my
> early years as graduate student and be posting drunk to the group every
> once in a while, instead of sitting here with my middle-class, father of
> one-soon-to-be-two, subsuburban house life :-)
I know exactly the feeling. I should be hungover right now, and not
tired from a business trip to Stockholm...
Wait... soon-to-be-two?? Congratulations!
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Nikitta
> I'm using Google Groups on the very infrequent occasions I remember to
> post here and it's packed!
>
> It's reassuring to see familiar names popping up though when I do
> visit :)
>
*waves* Hi!
> Strange to think I used to post about 20 posts a day here over ten
> years ago, now I've finished college, DNA died, I started work and I'm
> due to be married in under 2 weeks and I post once every six months.
>
I remember posting a whole lot more too. Congratulations on your
marriage, though.
> Now I'm scared about how fast that time's gone. Best pick up the books
> and pretend I'm 15 again!
>
Sometimes, it is scary to think of, yes. Now you got me all nostalgic
thinking back on this froup about ten years ago.
> Kie,
> "Life, don't talk to me about life."
Nice to see that again :)
Tian
"However long it felt like to get here from 20, the trip to 40 is going
to feel half as long." Not sure how to express my feelings about what he
said, but I can assure you that you can't go home again. It's someone
elses turn to be fifteen now. Later that to will change.
Tian
> Den 26-05-2010 15:45, K�re Fiedler Christiansen skrev:
>> Then again I guess by the same standards I should still be in my
>> early years as graduate student and be posting drunk to the group every
>> once in a while, instead of sitting here with my middle-class, father of
>> one-soon-to-be-two, subsuburban house life :-)
>
> I know exactly the feeling. I should be hungover right now, and not
> tired from a business trip to Stockholm...
>
> Wait... soon-to-be-two?? Congratulations!
>
Hear, hear!
Jan van den Broek
Kie <mr.gr...@gmail.com> schrieb:
[Schnipp]
>I'm using Google Groups on the very infrequent occasions I remember to
>post here and it's packed!
>
>It's reassuring to see familiar names popping up though when I do
>visit :)
Great, He Who (allegedly) Sleeps With Traffic Cones is back.
>Strange to think I used to post about 20 posts a day here over ten
>years ago, now I've finished college, DNA died, I started work and I'm
>due to be married in under 2 weeks and I post once every six months.
>
>Now I'm scared about how fast that time's gone. Best pick up the books
>and pretend I'm 15 again!
In which case I will be pretending I'm 37 agiain (which doesn't sound
that exciting).
(A propros, congratulations about the marriage)
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Kie
all the spam!
I've got a Sony e-reader (Something else that would have seemed crazy
when I first started posting here) and have loaded it with DNA books
ready for the flight to Orlando on my honeymoon, I plan to get back to
Hitchhiking!
And disgracefully I missed towel day, but then again at present the
days have just been merging in to one.
Seeing as though I'm here, and going off-topic doesn't seem to pose as
much of a risk when surrounded by this much spam, can anyone recommend
any DNA-like books?
Oh and as for traffic cones, I'm a little let down I didn't wake up
next to one after my stag night!
Kåre Fiedler Christiansen
> Rasmus Bøg Hansen wrote:
>> Den 26-05-2010 15:45, Kåre Fiedler Christiansen skrev:
>
>>> Then again I guess by the same standards I should still be in my early
>>> years as graduate student and be posting drunk to the group every once
>>> in a while, instead of sitting here with my middle-class, father of
>>> one-soon-to-be-two, subsuburban house life :-)
>>
>> I know exactly the feeling. I should be hungover right now, and not
>> tired from a business trip to Stockholm...
>>
>> Wait... soon-to-be-two?? Congratulations!
>>
> Hear, hear!
Thanks - I still have a little more than half a year to wait, so I guess
"soonish" would be more appropriate :-)
Best,
Kåre
John Coxon
> Seeing as though I'm here, and going off-topic doesn't seem to pose as
> much of a risk when surrounded by this much spam, can anyone recommend
> any DNA-like books?
I think the thing with DNA is that he's so unique, trying to recommend
anything similar is like trying to explain to a tealeaf the history of
the East India company.
However, I recently read and thoroughly enjoyed Principles of Angels by
Jaine Fenn, which I believe is worth a read. It's not hard science
fiction, but it's good some thumping good ideas in it and I do like the
setting rather a lot. :)