Holy shit! Holy shit! Holy shit!
http://waxy.org/2008/04/milliways_infocoms_unreleased_sequel_to_hitchhikers_guide_to_the_galax/
--
-- Dave
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Holy, holy, holy crap!!!!
Here's Infocom's "Milliways: The Restaurant at the End of the Universe" in
Java form:
http://waxy.org/random/software/milliways/milliways_release15.html
Holy crap!
Wah-hoo! See you guys in a day or two!
-- Dave
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Latest addition: MVVP tabling at the Post Office on Tax Day pictures.
Sporks have been around since at least the 1800s:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spork
Have you tried playing the game? I can't get it to do much of anything.
Perhaps this is a new and unusual usage of the word "playable" of which I
was not previously aware.
I remember playing the text based HHGG game back in the '80s. I got
stuck early. I showed it to this woman I went out with for a bit, and
she unstuck me for a couple of puzzles, and then we got to where she
got stuck.I dithered around a bit and then admitted I was stuck. I put
it aside. I never got around to getting back to it. Now that computer
hasn't been plugged in for many years, and might not work. Does the
floppy remember the game? I have no idea...
I've been looking at the games now. As you say, you can't really do
anything. At least not that I have found out.
Interesting story, and reading the comments, somewhat controversial...
It made me sad, in the same way I was sad when reading the few scarps of
chapters for The Salmon of Doubt.
Best,
Kåre
I'm sadened by reading that the salmon fishing season is canceled this
year. I'm wondering if that is the same sadness, writ large?...
Actually, I find the news about the canceled salmon fishing season
heartening. While the population of salmon has crashed, the folks who earn
their living from them have seen the wisdom of letting the species rebound
rather than just killing what's left and moving on to the next food fish.
--Dave
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Tian
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4/20: I got a brown XXL shirt made in LA that says "the role of the
revolutionary artist is to make revolution irresistible!" Cost me $8.
There are still lots of Canadian and Alaskan salmon, just not fish harvested
from California and Oregon shores. The rice price increase is because China
has stopped exporting the stuff. I still have a 20-pound bag of the
long-grain in the larder, so we've yet to feel the effects of the rice dirth
here.
-- Dave
Some years ago there were general strike; people stocked loads of
yeast. In Norway the stocked lots of toilet paper. Apparently other
people have a lot more rice than we have here - less than 1kg :-)
The funny part about the two strikes, norwegians travelled to Denmark
to give yeast to the danish population for charity. Later on danish
people went to Norway with charity toilet paper :-)
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it happens to be the only possible correct philosophy.
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That's usually what I have around here. 10kg is a big space hog in my
closet.
>
> The funny part about the two strikes, norwegians travelled to Denmark
> to give yeast to the danish population for charity. Later on danish
> people went to Norway with charity toilet paper :-)
>
That's funny. When I make bread I use about a teaspoon of yeast to raise
the dough. I assume you are talking about much more than that. Does the
stuff have other uses besides puffing up dough?
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4/28: This guy in the post office told me that only in Silicon
Valley do the "rats under the houses have internet access."
<snip>
> > The funny part about the two strikes, norwegians travelled to Denmark
> > to give yeast to the danish population for charity. Later on danish
> > people went to Norway with charity toilet paper :-)
> >
> That's funny. When I make bread I use about a teaspoon of yeast to raise
> the dough. I assume you are talking about much more than that. Does the
> stuff have other uses besides puffing up dough?
The thing is that the Danish tradition is using fresh yeast, and getting
dried yeast is unusual and exotic.
As the strike drove on, some people anticipated that it would be
impossible to get bread, and it would be impossible to make bread
without yeast. Since fresh yeast has a short expiration time, shops
don't stockpile much, and would soon run out.
However, if you put the fresh yeast in your freezer, it will stay fresh
longer, and lots of people bought incredible amounts of yeast - some
families could produce large quantities of frozen yeast a year after the
strike was over.
It was hysteria, really. Basically the only shortages that ever happened
were due to people stockpiling, rather than any actual shortages.
Best,
Kåre
I think this run on rice is the first run I remember since the toilet
paper run that was so long ago I can't remember even what decade it was in.
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4/29: I wore my new shoes to the teach in on the Middle East in
San Jose. It was the first time they left Mountain View, since
they were made here last week by a cobbler with a shop downtown.
He's the one eating my economic stimulus package money.
>> > The funny part about the two strikes, norwegians travelled to Denmark
>> > to give yeast to the danish population for charity. Later on danish
>> > people went to Norway with charity toilet paper :-)
>> >
>> That's funny. When I make bread I use about a teaspoon of yeast to raise
>> the dough. I assume you are talking about much more than that. Does the
>> stuff have other uses besides puffing up dough?
>
> The thing is that the Danish tradition is using fresh yeast, and getting
> dried yeast is unusual and exotic.
Yes, my Nice Norwegian took some time to get used to fresh yeast
("don't you have dried yeast?"), so for her sake we have some dried
yeast in the kitchen drawer, though I still buy and use fresh yeast
when I bake.
> As the strike drove on, some people anticipated that it would be
> impossible to get bread, and it would be impossible to make bread
> without yeast. Since fresh yeast has a short expiration time, shops
> don't stockpile much, and would soon run out.
>
> However, if you put the fresh yeast in your freezer, it will stay fresh
> longer, and lots of people bought incredible amounts of yeast - some
> families could produce large quantities of frozen yeast a year after the
> strike was over.
>
> It was hysteria, really. Basically the only shortages that ever happened
> were due to people stockpiling, rather than any actual shortages.
I second that. I found it very funny that people stockpiled yeast but
not flour. I mean, what did they intend to bake? Yeast-bread?
The hysteria really became apparent when people began to worry about
gasoline supplies and stockpiled gasoline. The problem was mostly that
people got so desperate that they put bathtubs in the back seat of the
car, drove to the gas station and filled the bathtub - and then drove
home with an open tub filled with 50 litres of gasoline.
Luckily only few people did so but it stays quite fresh in my memory
still.
> I second that. I found it very funny that people stockpiled yeast but
> not flour. I mean, what did they intend to bake? Yeast-bread?
>
> The hysteria really became apparent when people began to worry about
> gasoline supplies and stockpiled gasoline. The problem was mostly that
> people got so desperate that they put bathtubs in the back seat of the
> car, drove to the gas station and filled the bathtub - and then drove
> home with an open tub filled with 50 litres of gasoline.
>
> Luckily only few people did so but it stays quite fresh in my memory
> still.
>
What stays in *my* memory is the people who stockpiled insane amounts of
food, hoping to sell it at overprice, but ended up stuck with it when the
strike ended very soon, so they had to sell it at a big loss, if they
managed to sell it at all.
I know that schadenfreude[328][382] is not a pretty thing, but I couldn't
help it.
[328] Sp?
[382]*Is* there an Enhlish word for this?[283]
[283] "Skadefryd" in Danish
[238] I just felt like adding this number. [832]
Yes, I'm bored [823]
[823] How did you guess that? [238]
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the duck on the right!" Kaare Fiedler Christiansen, afdaniain.
These people don't know that gasoline evaporates? (shakes head in disbelief)
>>
>> Luckily only few people did so but it stays quite fresh in my memory
>> still.
>>
> What stays in *my* memory is the people who stockpiled insane amounts of
> food, hoping to sell it at overprice, but ended up stuck with it when the
> strike ended very soon, so they had to sell it at a big loss, if they
> managed to sell it at all.
There are a few stockpiles of rice like that around this valley. I'm
wondering how it will turn out for them. Me, I'm planning to be eating
rice more regularly for the next few years.
>
> I know that schadenfreude[328][382] is not a pretty thing, but I couldn't
> help it.
>
> [328] Sp?
> [382]*Is* there an Enhlish word for this?[283]
> [283] "Skadefryd" in Danish
> [238] I just felt like adding this number. [832]
> Yes, I'm bored [823]
> [823] How did you guess that? [238]
>
what is schadenfreude[328][382]?
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>> I know that schadenfreude[328][382] is not a pretty thing, but I
>> couldn't help it.
>>
>> [328] Sp?
>> [382]*Is* there an Enhlish word for this?[283]
>> [283] "Skadefryd" in Danish
>> [238] I just felt like adding this number. [832]
>> Yes, I'm bored [823]
>> [823] How did you guess that? [238]
>>
> what is schadenfreude[328][382]?
>
Briefly put, it's taking pleasure in seeing things going bad for other
people. It's combine of two words meaning "damage" and "pleasure".
Sometimes, it can't be avoided.
>>> I second that. I found it very funny that people stockpiled yeast but
>>> not flour. I mean, what did they intend to bake? Yeast-bread?
>>>
>>> The hysteria really became apparent when people began to worry about
>>> gasoline supplies and stockpiled gasoline. The problem was mostly that
>>> people got so desperate that they put bathtubs in the back seat of the
>>> car, drove to the gas station and filled the bathtub - and then drove
>>> home with an open tub filled with 50 litres of gasoline.
>
> These people don't know that gasoline evaporates? (shakes head in disbelief)
Apparently not. Not that it can influence your mind, judgment and
reaction time (and loss of conscience) if you breathe in the vapors.
I vaguely seem to remember that at least a few were stopped by the
police...
--
-- [ Rasmus "Møffe" Bøg Hansen ] -------------------------------------
Sleep is a poor substitue for enough caffeine.
<snip>
> schadenfreude[328][382]
<snap>
> [328] Sp?
> [382]*Is* there an Enhlish word for this?[283]
I don't know about Enhlish, but the best thing I can come up with is
"gloating".
> [283] "Skadefryd" in Danish
> [238] I just felt like adding this number. [832]
Oh no! There is no footnote [832]! Now what am I going to do?
> Yes, I'm bored [823]
> [823] How did you guess that? [238]
Best,
Kåre
[832] At least there wasn't!!
>> Rasmus =?utf-8?Q?B=C3=B8g?= Hansen spoke thusly:
>>
>>> The hysteria really became apparent when people began to worry about
>>> gasoline supplies and stockpiled gasoline. The problem was mostly that
>>> people got so desperate that they put bathtubs in the back seat of the
>>> car, drove to the gas station and filled the bathtub - and then drove
>>> home with an open tub filled with 50 litres of gasoline.
>
>These people don't know that gasoline evaporates? (shakes head in disbelief)
About, oooh, 6-7 years or so ago there was a "Petrol Crisis" in the UK
(later termed: 'Fuel dispute', well after it had ended).
A number of refineries had a bunch of peaceful truckers parked out the
front as part of a protest that the price of diesel and petrol was Too
Much, especially when considering the bonkers amount of tax that's
charged on it.
Fortunately for me, over the period I'd got a mostly full tank of
diesel (which at the time would last me in excess of 3 weeks
commuting), plus I was actually in California on holiday.
Anyway, to drag this back to the point: There were a number of
anecdotal "Did you hear about $idiot" stories going around. One
involved someone panic-buying petrol and storing it in their
wheelie-bin (a dustbin on wheels - all the rage here in Blighty). A
*plastic* wheelie-bin, which promptly dissolved...
Lloyd
--
"In fact, everything between 'herring' and 'marmalade'
appears to be missing" -- Svlad Cjelli
> Rasmus Bøg Hansen wrote:
>> Tian <tnha...@aceweb.com> hit the keyboard.
>> Afterwards the following was on the screen:
>>
>>>>> I second that. I found it very funny that people stockpiled yeast but
>>>>> not flour. I mean, what did they intend to bake? Yeast-bread?
>>>>>
>>>>> The hysteria really became apparent when people began to worry about
>>>>> gasoline supplies and stockpiled gasoline. The problem was mostly that
>>>>> people got so desperate that they put bathtubs in the back seat of the
>>>>> car, drove to the gas station and filled the bathtub - and then drove
>>>>> home with an open tub filled with 50 litres of gasoline.
>>> These people don't know that gasoline evaporates? (shakes head in disbelief)
>>
>> Apparently not. Not that it can influence your mind, judgment and
>> reaction time (and loss of conscience) if you breathe in the vapors.
>>
>> I vaguely seem to remember that at least a few were stopped by the
>> police...
>>
> Drunk on gasoline fumes. You can get brain damage from too much of that...
Indeed you can. I have quite a lot of respect for that (even though I
actually like the smell of gasoline and e.g. ethyl acetate) from years
of chemistry study.
Those people *might* already have suffered such a brain damage,
though...
--
-- [ Rasmus "Møffe" Bøg Hansen ] -------------------------------------
Never trust anyone who can resist bacon.
-- Dave on alt.fan.douglas-adams
> Anyway, to drag this back to the point: There were a number of
> anecdotal "Did you hear about $idiot" stories going around. One
> involved someone panic-buying petrol and storing it in their
> wheelie-bin (a dustbin on wheels - all the rage here in Blighty). A
> *plastic* wheelie-bin, which promptly dissolved...
Ah, that reminds me of once in high school when we supposed to do
calorimetric measurements of different kinds of fluid. The school
didn't have enough calorimeters (those steel cup inside a steel cup,
thus making the layer of air between the two cups act as heat
insulation)., so our teacher had bought styrofoam cups instead.
That worked pretty well. At least until we got to petroleum. Suddenly
people around the lab hurried to sinks and so with leaking styrofoam
cups yelling "the cups are dissolving" :-)
--
-- [ Rasmus "Møffe" Bøg Hansen ] -------------------------------------
Ah, they've got the internet on computers now.
He. I remember at a youth camp we had been walking through some tall
grass, and a lot of us had acquired ticks[x] .
Someone had heard the advice that gasoline would make the ticks let go
harmlessly, and thus a delegation was sent to the parking lot to get
some gasoline.
They came back with gasoline in styrofoam cups, desperately trying to
hold another cup underneath as the cups dissolved.
To make matters worse, it didn't even work, and we ended up just cutting
the ticks of with a sharp knife, and removing any remaining parts with
pincers.
Best,
Kåre
>afda.i...@invalid.zanoop.invalid.org.invalid.uk.invalid (Lloyd Gilbert) hit the keyboard.
>Afterwards the following was on the screen:
>
>> Anyway, to drag this back to the point: There were a number of
>> anecdotal "Did you hear about $idiot" stories going around. One
>> involved someone panic-buying petrol and storing it in their
>> wheelie-bin (a dustbin on wheels - all the rage here in Blighty). A
>> *plastic* wheelie-bin, which promptly dissolved...
>
>Ah, that reminds me of once in high school when we supposed to do
>calorimetric measurements of different kinds of fluid. The school
>didn't have enough calorimeters (those steel cup inside a steel cup,
>thus making the layer of air between the two cups act as heat
>insulation)., so our teacher had bought styrofoam cups instead.
>
>That worked pretty well. At least until we got to petroleum. Suddenly
>people around the lab hurried to sinks and so with leaking styrofoam
>cups yelling "the cups are dissolving" :-)
LOL!
Oh, that's brilliant!
> To make matters worse, it didn't even work, and we ended up just cutting
> the ticks of with a sharp knife, and removing any remaining parts with
> pincers.
I think it is supposed to drug them so the mouth parts more easily
comes loose instead of being left behind.
My parents use "emla" - some kind of medical plaster with aneastethics
on (often used when taking blood samples from kids), but of course
they both work on a hospital. They don't come loose that way but the
mouth parts seldom are left (which they often are otherwise).
--
-- [ Rasmus "Møffe" Bøg Hansen ] -------------------------------------
The logical thing to do with an egg is cook it and eat it, but throwing
it at someone is much more fun.
--
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
"In California, we say don't wait for Washington, because Washington is
asleep at the wheel" Governor Schwarzenegger on climate change progress.
> Rasmus Bøg Hansen wrote:
>> Kåre Fiedler Christiansen <ne...@kaarefc.dk> hit the keyboard.
>> Afterwards the following was on the screen:
>>
>>> To make matters worse, it didn't even work, and we ended up just cutting
>>> the ticks of with a sharp knife, and removing any remaining parts with
>>> pincers.
>>
>> I think it is supposed to drug them so the mouth parts more easily
>> comes loose instead of being left behind.
>>
>> My parents use "emla" - some kind of medical plaster with aneastethics
>> on (often used when taking blood samples from kids), but of course
>> they both work on a hospital. They don't come loose that way but the
>> mouth parts seldom are left (which they often are otherwise).
>>
> Usually I feel them crawling on my skin and flick them off before they
> start burrowing. I remember shaking off lots of them, but never having
> been bitten by a tick.
I seldom feel them before they bite; somehow I never was bitten by a
lot, though.
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-- [ Rasmus "Møffe" Bøg Hansen ] -------------------------------------
It needs to be fast, fairly easy to implement, but above all easy to
use. It doesn't need to be able to do absolutely everything, though
that would be nice :-)
-- Julian Field
>"Dave Adalian" <dave.a...@sbcglobal.nospam.net> wrote in message
>news:PM7Oj.7328$GE1....@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com...
>> "TWO PLAYABLE PROTOTYPES"
>>
>> Holy shit! Holy shit! Holy shit!
>>
>> http://waxy.org/2008/04/milliways_infocoms_unreleased_sequel_to_hitchhikers_guide_to_the_galax/
>>
>
>Holy, holy, holy crap!!!!
>
>Here's Infocom's "Milliways: The Restaurant at the End of the Universe" in
>Java form:
>
>http://waxy.org/random/software/milliways/milliways_release15.html
>
>Holy crap!
>
>Wah-hoo! See you guys in a day or two!
i have now played both as far as the descriptions suggest and no
further, can we assume that they go no further than that or am i just
as slow as the reviewer?
>
>-- Dave
>
>
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It was much ado about nothing as far as I can tell. I couldn't get the game
to do much of anything. Very disappointing.
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I'm not sure I like where this is going.
I write.
>How many creative writers, developers and graphic artists are there in
>this froup, out of interest?
Me. I'm a "developer".
[Schnipp]
>How many creative writers, developers and graphic artists are there in
>this froup, out of interest?
Developer as in "software developer".
--
Jan van den Broek |
balg...@xs4all.nl |
| "Please put the mouse down and put your hands
| on the keyboard where we can see them."
Ever get that "there's a reason they didn't release it" feeling?
>>>
>>>
>> How many creative writers, developers and graphic artists are there in
>> this froup, out of interest?
>>
>
> I'm not sure I like where this is going.
>
I developed until I realized that the main thing I was accomplishing was
creating big piles of crap. Since then I've become more "amish", trying
to make free speech worth something. In other words, I'm trying to
develop nothing into something worth more than being a consumer.
Hopefully you catch my drift...
--
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5/10: I spent a few hours teaching fogheads what goes in the compost at
KaBOOM! This was interesting because KFOG paid extra for compostable
cups, plates, and flatware. I basically stood between them and the trash
saying "COMPOST!" "COMPOST!" "COMPOST!" while pointing to the compost
bin. One woman called me a recycling god. Many others said nice things.
They weren't games. They were unfinished copies of an unreleased game,
with previously unreleased writing by Douglas Adams. Considering he's
now been dead for seven years, anything that gives us previously
unreleased Douglas Adams is not 'much ado about nothing,' even if it is
only three paragraphs of writing.
I've written an article on the game and the first part of the article
ought to appear in the next issue of Mostly Harmless. :)
--
John Coxon
http://johncoxon.livejournal.com/
http://www.chickensinenvelopes.net/
> /// Dave Adalian / dave.a...@PLZNOSPAMsbcglobal.net / Wed, 14 May
> 2008 12:13:27 -0700 ///
> <snip game remnants>
>> >
>> > i have now played both as far as the descriptions suggest and no
>> > further, can we assume that they go no further than that or am i just
>> > as slow as the reviewer?
>> >
>> >
>> It was much ado about nothing as far as I can tell. I couldn't get the
>> game to do much of anything. Very disappointing.
>>
>>
>>
> How many creative writers, developers and graphic artists are there in
> this froup, out of interest?
All right, listen, someone _has_ to say it, and it might as well be me.
42.
...
Okay, okay, I'm leaving already.
Best,
Kåre
...oh, and I'm a developer.
> On Wed, 14 May 2008 22:06:43 +0100, Kenny Hutchings wrote:
>
>> /// Dave Adalian / dave.a...@PLZNOSPAMsbcglobal.net / Wed, 14 May
>> 2008 12:13:27 -0700 ///
>> <snip game remnants>
>>> >
>>> > i have now played both as far as the descriptions suggest and no
>>> > further, can we assume that they go no further than that or am i just
>>> > as slow as the reviewer?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> It was much ado about nothing as far as I can tell. I couldn't get the
>>> game to do much of anything. Very disappointing.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> How many creative writers, developers and graphic artists are there in
>> this froup, out of interest?
>
> All right, listen, someone _has_ to say it, and it might as well be me.
>
> 42.
Good! It's a dirty job but someone had to do it.
> ...oh, and I'm a developer.
I believe I am too, though I am not actually developing a lot of
software nowadays.
I have tried doing graphics but the results were disastrous...
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cat complaints > /dev/null
oh, oh! permission to use that "trying to make free speech worth something"
quote please?
it's sheer fucking genius. i don't care if you sat there until your forehead
bled trying to come up with it or it was a total fluke. it's still frigging
genius ;-)
permish to nick? or borrow on a very long term basis meaning it never gets
returned but used very heavily?
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The radio said that the U.S. average gas price has reached $4.05/gal.