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Joe Shimkus

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Oct 24, 2001, 11:36:01 PM10/24/01
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Apart from public access, does there still exist a USAn TV station (is
that still the correct word in our cable world?) that doesn't air 24
hours a day? If not, what was the last station to do so?

- Joe


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UFO_Charlie

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Oct 24, 2001, 11:40:30 PM10/24/01
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Joe Shimkus <j...@shimkus.com> wrote:

>Apart from public access, does there still exist a USAn TV station (is
>that still the correct word in our cable world?) that doesn't air 24
>hours a day?

Well, sorta. Not many cable stations ever seem to go completely off-air, but
many of them run infomercials from about 3am-7am.

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Geoduck

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Oct 24, 2001, 11:57:55 PM10/24/01
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On Wed, 24 Oct 2001 23:36:01 -0400, Joe Shimkus <j...@shimkus.com>
wrote:

>Apart from public access, does there still exist a USAn TV station (is
>that still the correct word in our cable world?) that doesn't air 24
>hours a day? If not, what was the last station to do so?

Some of the broadcast stations in my area (Seattle) still occasionally
sign off for the night (or at least for a few hours) instead of
showing infomercials.
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Bob E.

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Oct 25, 2001, 12:22:06 AM10/25/01
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Joe Shimkus wrote:
>
> Apart from public access, does there still exist a USAn TV station (is
> that still the correct word in our cable world?) that doesn't air 24
> hours a day? If not, what was the last station to do so?
>

Our two main PBS stations in the Bay Area (KQED and KTEH) go off for
a few hours early in the morning. The funny thing is that they didn't
used to. They used to air honest-to-blog EDUCATIONAL programs (you
know, the classroom type of show, for credits, not nature or biography
productions) for people to tape and view later. They don't play the
national anthem when they go off, anymore, but KQED shows the flag
while reciting their broadcast info. --Bob

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Briar Rose

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Oct 25, 2001, 12:42:32 AM10/25/01
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Joe Shimkus <j...@shimkus.com> wrote:
>Apart from public access, does there still exist a USAn TV station (is
>that still the correct word in our cable world?) that doesn't air 24
>hours a day?

Comedy Central
Sci-Fi
Our UPN affiliate, channel 13, KCOP
Our PBS affiliate, channel 28, KCET
A local independent, channel 52 or 50. The one that
tapes Wally George and used to show "Adventures with
the Poorman." Damn, I dunno how they stay in business.
They're what TV must have been like when it was first
starting out.

:) Connie-Lynne
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D.F. Manno

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Oct 25, 2001, 1:54:49 AM10/25/01
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In article <9r81jf$s7q$1...@bob.news.rcn.net>, "UFO_Charlie"
<D...@thernf.combobulate.com> wrote:

> Joe Shimkus <j...@shimkus.com> wrote:
>
> >Apart from public access, does there still exist a USAn TV station (is
> >that still the correct word in our cable world?) that doesn't air 24
> >hours a day?
>
> Well, sorta. Not many cable stations ever seem to go completely off-air, but
> many of them run infomercials from about 3am-7am.

I have four channels of HBO on my cable system, and each week one of them goes
off the air for 90 minutes early on Sunday or Monday morning. Pisses me off,
because I'm paying for 24/7 and because I'm a night owl and usually watching Tv
at that hour.
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any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any
foe to assure the survival and success of liberty." (John F. Kennedy)

RM Mentock

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Oct 25, 2001, 2:01:10 AM10/25/01
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"D.F. Manno" wrote:

> I have four channels of HBO on my cable system, and each week one of them goes
> off the air for 90 minutes early on Sunday or Monday morning. Pisses me off,
> because I'm paying for 24/7 and because I'm a night owl and usually watching Tv
> at that hour.

What? You can only watch three channels of HBO at a time?

Do they rotate? Does each one go down once every few weeks?

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Joseph Nebus

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Oct 25, 2001, 5:28:04 AM10/25/01
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Joe Shimkus <j...@shimkus.com> writes:

>Apart from public access, does there still exist a USAn TV station (is
>that still the correct word in our cable world?) that doesn't air 24
>hours a day? If not, what was the last station to do so?

Well, in Albany/Schenactedy, New York, *all* the stations go off
the air late Saturday night, or at least did a year ago (last time I had
occasion to check). I think the Fox affiliate (WXXA/23) goes off every
night. The ABC affiliate (WTEN/10) used to go off nightly, but joined
the forces of good by picking up World News Now... oh, in 1995 or 96.

(Things may have changed in the past few months, obviously.)

Joseph Nebus
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Rick B.

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Oct 25, 2001, 6:30:07 AM10/25/01
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Joe Shimkus wrote:
>
> Apart from public access, does there still exist a USAn TV station (is
> that still the correct word in our cable world?) that doesn't air 24
> hours a day? If not, what was the last station to do so?

A fair proportion of stations used to stay on 24/5 or 6 but shut down
for a few early Sunday and/or Monday hours, but even that seems to be
going away. WNET, the New York area's main PBS station, was off from 3
to 5 am last Monday morning, and WMGM-TV in the Atlantic City area has
some "off the air" and "to be announced" patches in its weekend
late-night schedules, and that's about it around here. When even a
lowish-budget operation like WYBE, Philadelphia's alternative PBS
station, is always on you know that 24/7 is the standard.

Anybody else remember when early mornings were largely devoted to
educational shows like "Sunrise Semester" and "Operation Alphabet"--and
that was on big-city commercial stations, as late as the '70s? Now the
NYC and Philly network stations start rolling local news at 5 AM and
even the independent in Allentown PA has a local newscast at 6!

Rick "up all morning" B.

Jim Ellwanger

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Oct 25, 2001, 9:51:27 AM10/25/01
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In article <s34gttgdcha6cg3kg...@4ax.com>,
radioGO-SPAM-...@yahoo.com wrote:

> The little Chicago TV station where I got my chops in the mid-70s, was on from
> 6AM to midnight. They're 24-hours now. But back in '74, we'd turn it on at
> 5:50AM, and unplug the transmitter at midnight sharp.

When my hometown (Tampa) got a second independent station in 1982 or
thereabouts, they were only on the air from 4:00 P.M. until midnight.
These days, they're the ABC affiliate, so their hours are a little bit
longer.

--
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<http://trainman1.home.mindspring.com/> asks for little in return.
"There's something about a train..."

Paul L. Madarasz

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Oct 25, 2001, 10:27:56 AM10/25/01
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On 25 Oct 2001 04:42:32 GMT, cly...@ugcs.caltech.edu (Briar Rose)
wrote, perhaps among other things...:

>Joe Shimkus <j...@shimkus.com> wrote:
>>Apart from public access, does there still exist a USAn TV station (is
>>that still the correct word in our cable world?) that doesn't air 24
>>hours a day?
>
>Comedy Central
>Sci-Fi
>Our UPN affiliate, channel 13, KCOP
>Our PBS affiliate, channel 28, KCET
>A local independent, channel 52 or 50. The one that
> tapes Wally George and used to show "Adventures with
> the Poorman." Damn, I dunno how they stay in business.
> They're what TV must have been like when it was first
> starting out.
>
>:) Connie-Lynne

Wally George??!!?? He's still around? The mind boggles.
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Scott P

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Oct 25, 2001, 2:28:12 PM10/25/01
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On Thu, 25 Oct 2001 01:54:49 -0400, "D.F. Manno"
<domm...@netscape.net> wrote:

>In article <9r81jf$s7q$1...@bob.news.rcn.net>, "UFO_Charlie"
><D...@thernf.combobulate.com> wrote:
>
>> Joe Shimkus <j...@shimkus.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Apart from public access, does there still exist a USAn TV station (is
>> >that still the correct word in our cable world?) that doesn't air 24
>> >hours a day?
>>
>> Well, sorta. Not many cable stations ever seem to go completely off-air, but
>> many of them run infomercials from about 3am-7am.
>
>I have four channels of HBO on my cable system, and each week one of them goes
>off the air for 90 minutes early on Sunday or Monday morning. Pisses me off,
>because I'm paying for 24/7 and because I'm a night owl and usually watching Tv
>at that hour.

I noticed this too. It's kind of weird.

Scott

GrapeApe

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Oct 25, 2001, 4:52:24 PM10/25/01
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>>> >Apart from public access, does there still exist a USAn TV station (is
>>> >that still the correct word in our cable world?) that doesn't air 24
>>> >hours a day?
>>>
>>> Well, sorta. Not many cable stations ever seem to go completely off-air,
>but
>>> many of them run infomercials from about 3am-7am.
>>
>>I have four channels of HBO on my cable system, and each week one of them
>goes
>>off the air for 90 minutes early on Sunday or Monday morning. Pisses me
>off,
>>because I'm paying for 24/7 and because I'm a night owl and usually watching
>Tv
>>at that hour.
>
>I noticed this too. It's kind of weird.

Weird huh? Doesn't take too much to strike you odd...

Probably the two people most responsible for TV going 24/7 nearly universally
are Ted Turner and Ron Popeil. Broadcast stations didn't have the programming,
but Ted would let them have Headline News for nothing, with its own commercials
paying for the airtime, and folks like Popeil, Herbalife etc... would buy big
chunks altogether.

At least once a week, usually in the wee hours that a station thinks is least
likely for their demographic to be tuned in, most cable channels take several
minutes of air time to 'email' content to each other, so to speak. That is,
they send their promo spots out, with the timing cues most of us never see, so
that local cable operators can spread the spots out throughout the air time
they may have been able to snag, for cross promotion on stations outside their
ownership. (Of course, Viacom, Disney, or TimeWarner can do their own cross
promotion on the channels they own)

Bob Ward

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Oct 25, 2001, 5:53:30 PM10/25/01
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On Wed, 24 Oct 2001 23:36:01 -0400, Joe Shimkus <j...@shimkus.com>
wrote:

>Apart from public access, does there still exist a USAn TV station (is

>that still the correct word in our cable world?) that doesn't air 24
>hours a day? If not, what was the last station to do so?
>
>- Joe


Well, many stations conclude their broadcast day, and their frequency
is taken over for infomercials until the next morning.

The NASA channel has periods marked "Off-Air" in the listings.


Bob Ward

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Oct 25, 2001, 5:56:27 PM10/25/01
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On 25 Oct 2001 04:42:32 GMT, cly...@ugcs.caltech.edu (Briar Rose)
wrote:

>Joe Shimkus <j...@shimkus.com> wrote:
>>Apart from public access, does there still exist a USAn TV station (is
>>that still the correct word in our cable world?) that doesn't air 24
>>hours a day?
>
>Comedy Central
>Sci-Fi
>Our UPN affiliate, channel 13, KCOP
>Our PBS affiliate, channel 28, KCET
>A local independent, channel 52 or 50. The one that
> tapes Wally George and used to show "Adventures with
> the Poorman." Damn, I dunno how they stay in business.
> They're what TV must have been like when it was first
> starting out.
>
>:) Connie-Lynne


That would be channel 56 - KDOC out of Orange County, Connie-Lynne.


mike (aka socalmike)

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Oct 25, 2001, 7:02:44 PM10/25/01
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"Paul L. Madarasz" <pl...@dakotacom.net> wrote in message
news:6a8gtt40tbb821d9d...@4ax.com...

> On 25 Oct 2001 04:42:32 GMT, cly...@ugcs.caltech.edu (Briar Rose)
> wrote, perhaps among other things...:
>
> >Joe Shimkus <j...@shimkus.com> wrote:
> >>Apart from public access, does there still exist a USAn TV station (is
> >>that still the correct word in our cable world?) that doesn't air 24
> >>hours a day?
> >
> >Comedy Central
> >Sci-Fi
> >Our UPN affiliate, channel 13, KCOP
> >Our PBS affiliate, channel 28, KCET
> >A local independent, channel 52 or 50. The one that
> > tapes Wally George and used to show "Adventures with
> > the Poorman

i managed to watch almost all the episodes of his failed second attempt,
"the looooove channel". it was fascinating watching the show disintegrate
night to night.


Briar Rose

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Oct 25, 2001, 9:52:22 PM10/25/01
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Bob Ward <bob...@email.com> wrote:

>cly...@ugcs.caltech.edu (Briar Rose) wrote:
>>A local independent, channel 52 or 50. The one that
>> tapes Wally George and used to show "Adventures with
>> the Poorman." Damn, I dunno how they stay in business.
>> They're what TV must have been like when it was first
>> starting out.
>
>That would be channel 56 - KDOC out of Orange County, Connie-Lynne.

Yes, that's the one, thank you.

Greg Goss

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Oct 26, 2001, 5:50:36 AM10/26/01
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Joe Shimkus <j...@shimkus.com> wrote:

>Apart from public access, does there still exist a USAn TV station (is
>that still the correct word in our cable world?) that doesn't air 24
>hours a day? If not, what was the last station to do so?

There are several that I get on my cable from the USA that go to test
pattern at about 2AM. I think that several of them fall back to snow
a while after that.

TLC goes to infomercials at midnight. Does that count?

Hank Gillette

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Oct 27, 2001, 7:28:41 PM10/27/01
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In article <3BD7936E...@halted.com>, "Bob E." <bob...@halted.com>
wrote:

> They don't play the national anthem when they go off, anymore,
> but KQED shows the flag while reciting their broadcast info.

The thing I miss about the 24/7 television stations is that I no longer
get to see that "High Flight" video that some of them signed of with.

Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of earth
And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;
Sunward I've climbed, and joined the tumbling mirth
Of sun-split clouds - and done a hundred things
You have not dreamed of - wheeled and soared and swung
High in the sunlit silence. Hov'ring there,
I've chased the shouting wind along, and flung
My eager craft through footless halls of air.
Up, up the long, delirious, burning blue
I've topped the wind-swept heights with easy grace
Where never lark, or even eagle flew -
And, while with silent lifting mind I've trod
The high untrespassed sanctity of space,
Put out my hand and touched the face of God.

John Gillespie Magee, Jr.

--
Hank Gillette

Paul L. Madarasz

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Oct 27, 2001, 11:34:50 PM10/27/01
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On Sat, 27 Oct 2001 23:28:41 GMT, Hank Gillette
<hank_g...@excite.com> wrote, perhaps among other things...:

>In article <3BD7936E...@halted.com>, "Bob E." <bob...@halted.com>
>wrote:
>
>> They don't play the national anthem when they go off, anymore,
>> but KQED shows the flag while reciting their broadcast info.
>
>The thing I miss about the 24/7 television stations is that I no longer
>get to see that "High Flight" video that some of them signed of with.
>
>Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of earth
>And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;

<snippage occurs here>

> John Gillespie Magee, Jr.

Wasn't there a small dust-up a number of years ago concerning Mr.
Magee's possible plagarism of some (if not somewhere between most to
all) of this poem?

ctc...@hotmail.com

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Oct 28, 2001, 4:14:16 PM10/28/01
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Paul L. Madarasz <pl...@dakotacom.net> wrote:
>
> <snippage occurs here>
>
> > John Gillespie Magee, Jr.
>
> Wasn't there a small dust-up a number of years ago concerning Mr.
> Magee's possible plagarism of some (if not somewhere between most to
> all) of this poem?

Yes, he stole if from a fictional President.

Xho

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Oct 28, 2001, 5:46:41 PM10/28/01
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>
>> John Gillespie Magee, Jr.
>
>Wasn't there a small dust-up a number of years ago concerning Mr.
>Magee's possible plagarism of some (if not somewhere between most to
>all) of this poem?

Not that I could tell from the web.

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